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Posted to dev@activemq.apache.org by sr...@wipro.com on 2009/05/02 11:22:32 UTC
ActiveMQ for Embedded systems - Memory constrants
Hi All,
We are building an embedded product with java platform. We are planning
to use ActiveMQ for messaging within java and between java and native
(using ActiveMQ-CPP).
I have gone through the FAQ, release notes, docs etc. I even installed
and ActiveMQ to just try it. But my below questions are still not
answered.
1. Since ours is an embedded product, we want a lightweight messaging
service. We just need basic async messaging. ActiveMQ seems good with
broker architecture. But is it suited for embedded system products with
limited memory?
2. Since I don't want features like persistence, security(since we
operate within the system) and probably many more.
3. Is there a way that I remove these JARs without any problem and still
use core activeMQ features?
4. I saw required and optional JARs listed in the configuration, but
couldn't find what are the dependencies and how I can remove it.
5. we felt ActiveMQ to be good since we have a servlet engine, browser
also in our product.
6. what is the least possible size of ActiveMQ? How do I strip it?
7. I also saw ActiveMQ taking a run time memory of around 40-50MB which
is huge for us. Anyway to limit this. Hopefully, If I am able to strip
activeMQ to the lowest possible size, runtime memory should be low since
memory required for loading will be less.
8. ActiveMQ-CPP shared library is around 30 - 40 MB with dependencies
like cppunit, uuid, librt etc. I want to strip this component also to
reduce memory requirements. I did not see any information about such
configuration for ActiveMQ-CPP.
It will be really great if you can help me on this. If required, please
redirect me to any links where I can find answers.
Thanks in advance.
Note: I am not sure if this question should be addressed to the user
list. Please let me know if it is so. I have tried sending mail to this
list without subscribing. But, it's not posted and I couldn't find it in
archive. I believe I need to subscribe before posting. I am subscribed
to this list now.
Thanks & Regards,
-- Srinivas R
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RE: ActiveMQ for Embedded systems - Memory constrants
Posted by sr...@wipro.com.
Hi Tim,
Thanks a lot for the reply w.r.t ActiveMQ-CPP. I could see that the
shared library is getting stripped to 4.9MB from 33MB.
That's a relief..!
Can anybody help me with the other questions below?
Also, what is the runtime memory requirements of ActiveMQ and
ActiveMQ-CPP?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks & Regards,
-- Srinivas R
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Bish [mailto:tabish121@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 6:43 PM
To: dev@activemq.apache.org
Subject: Re: ActiveMQ for Embedded systems - Memory constrants
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 14:52 +0530, srinivas.ramana@wipro.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We are building an embedded product with java platform. We are
planning
> to use ActiveMQ for messaging within java and between java and native
> (using ActiveMQ-CPP).
>
> I have gone through the FAQ, release notes, docs etc. I even installed
> and ActiveMQ to just try it. But my below questions are still not
> answered.
>
> 1. Since ours is an embedded product, we want a lightweight messaging
> service. We just need basic async messaging. ActiveMQ seems good with
> broker architecture. But is it suited for embedded system products
with
> limited memory?
> 2. Since I don't want features like persistence, security(since we
> operate within the system) and probably many more.
> 3. Is there a way that I remove these JARs without any problem and
still
> use core activeMQ features?
> 4. I saw required and optional JARs listed in the configuration, but
> couldn't find what are the dependencies and how I can remove it.
> 5. we felt ActiveMQ to be good since we have a servlet engine, browser
> also in our product.
> 6. what is the least possible size of ActiveMQ? How do I strip it?
> 7. I also saw ActiveMQ taking a run time memory of around 40-50MB
which
> is huge for us. Anyway to limit this. Hopefully, If I am able to strip
> activeMQ to the lowest possible size, runtime memory should be low
since
> memory required for loading will be less.
> 8. ActiveMQ-CPP shared library is around 30 - 40 MB with dependencies
> like cppunit, uuid, librt etc. I want to strip this component also to
> reduce memory requirements. I did not see any information about such
> configuration for ActiveMQ-CPP.
The AMQCPP shared library isn't dependent on CPPUnit, only the test
binaries are. You can easy strip all debug symbols out of the library
to reduce its size, this removes any chance of knowing where a crash
occurs though, so use with caution. To strip the library just run
strip --strip-unneeded libactivemq-cpp.so
>
> It will be really great if you can help me on this. If required,
please
> redirect me to any links where I can find answers.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Note: I am not sure if this question should be addressed to the user
> list. Please let me know if it is so. I have tried sending mail to
this
> list without subscribing. But, it's not posted and I couldn't find it
in
> archive. I believe I need to subscribe before posting. I am subscribed
> to this list now.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> -- Srinivas R
>
> Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary.
>
> The information contained in this electronic message and any
attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the
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immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.
>
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should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses.
The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus
transmitted by this email.
>
> www.wipro.com
--
Tim Bish
http://fusesource.com
http://timbish.blogspot.com/
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Re: ActiveMQ for Embedded systems - Memory constrants
Posted by Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 14:52 +0530, srinivas.ramana@wipro.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We are building an embedded product with java platform. We are planning
> to use ActiveMQ for messaging within java and between java and native
> (using ActiveMQ-CPP).
>
> I have gone through the FAQ, release notes, docs etc. I even installed
> and ActiveMQ to just try it. But my below questions are still not
> answered.
>
> 1. Since ours is an embedded product, we want a lightweight messaging
> service. We just need basic async messaging. ActiveMQ seems good with
> broker architecture. But is it suited for embedded system products with
> limited memory?
> 2. Since I don't want features like persistence, security(since we
> operate within the system) and probably many more.
> 3. Is there a way that I remove these JARs without any problem and still
> use core activeMQ features?
> 4. I saw required and optional JARs listed in the configuration, but
> couldn't find what are the dependencies and how I can remove it.
> 5. we felt ActiveMQ to be good since we have a servlet engine, browser
> also in our product.
> 6. what is the least possible size of ActiveMQ? How do I strip it?
> 7. I also saw ActiveMQ taking a run time memory of around 40-50MB which
> is huge for us. Anyway to limit this. Hopefully, If I am able to strip
> activeMQ to the lowest possible size, runtime memory should be low since
> memory required for loading will be less.
> 8. ActiveMQ-CPP shared library is around 30 - 40 MB with dependencies
> like cppunit, uuid, librt etc. I want to strip this component also to
> reduce memory requirements. I did not see any information about such
> configuration for ActiveMQ-CPP.
The AMQCPP shared library isn't dependent on CPPUnit, only the test
binaries are. You can easy strip all debug symbols out of the library
to reduce its size, this removes any chance of knowing where a crash
occurs though, so use with caution. To strip the library just run
strip --strip-unneeded libactivemq-cpp.so
>
> It will be really great if you can help me on this. If required, please
> redirect me to any links where I can find answers.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Note: I am not sure if this question should be addressed to the user
> list. Please let me know if it is so. I have tried sending mail to this
> list without subscribing. But, it's not posted and I couldn't find it in
> archive. I believe I need to subscribe before posting. I am subscribed
> to this list now.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> -- Srinivas R
>
> Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary.
>
> The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.
>
> WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
>
> www.wipro.com
--
Tim Bish
http://fusesource.com
http://timbish.blogspot.com/