Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files

[Alan B <ab...@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Dr Ian Shaw <is...@wirelessza.co.za> wrote:

> I have downloaded the equivalent of WORD (Apache Writer?) quite sometime
> ago but have noticed that all of my previous WORD file symbols were
> "automatically" converted to the symbol of Apache Writer.
>

The symbol change is an indication that once installed Writer became the
default program to open that type of file. It does not mean the file itself
changed. (Note that the option for Writer to be the default, or not, is
prompted for during installation.)

Question: If I use a file marked in File with the Apache Writer symbol, and
> I attach it to an e-mail, can it still be decoded (read) by someone who
> does not have Apache Writer but only WORD installed?
>

Yes but...

Yes if the file was saved as a Word type file. The option what file type to
save as is offered when a document is first saved.

If the file was saved as a Writer type file the recipient must either get
the Microsoft software to read the file (a free extension for Word from
Microsoft) or download Apache OpenOffice and use that to read the file.

Note: if the recipient only needs to read but not edit the file Writer has
the ability to create a .pdf. This can be found in the menu at "File |
Export as PDF..."

Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files

[japples <ja...@europa.com>]

Thank you so much, I had wondered why programs (including Open Office) 
have "export to" / "print to" pdf rather than "save to" pdf format.  PDF 
format is more of an Adobe propriety graphic file that edits well with 
Adobe Acrobat.
 
Jack


Brian Barker wrote:
> At 21:25 15/04/2014 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote:
>> On 15 Apr 2014, at 05:32, Alan Bonly wrote:
>>> Note: if the recipient only needs to read but not edit the file, 
>>> Writer has the ability to create a .pdf. This can be found in the 
>>> menu at "File | Export as PDF..
>>
>> Why, pray tell, isn't this an option under 'Save As'?
>
> I can't speak for the applications's designers, but it strikes me that 
> this is very sensible - indeed useful.  The various formats available 
> at Save As are alternative ways in which a document can sensibly be 
> kept, with the possibility that it will subsequently be reopened and 
> further edited.  Although PDF is an ideal format for transferring 
> *final versions* of documents between users and platforms, it is quite 
> unsuited to further editing, of course.  Putting PDF in the Save As 
> menu might give users the impression that saving in that format would 
> provide the same functionality as saving in one of the normal document 
> formats - in this case .odt or .doc.  Users might save as PDF and lose 
> the benefit of considerable editing time.
>
> Consider also a user editing a file and then immediately creating a 
> PDF version.  If PDF was an alternative saving format, there would be 
> no warning that the edits had not been saved if the document were then 
> closed.  Next time the existing .odt file was opened, recent editing 
> would have been lost (and users would not be pleased).  As it is, 
> exporting to PDF does not affect this protection.
>
> I see this choice as wise.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
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Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files

[Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>]

At 21:25 15/04/2014 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote:
>On 15 Apr 2014, at 05:32, Alan Bonly wrote:
>>Note: if the recipient only needs to read but not edit the file, 
>>Writer has the ability to create a .pdf. This can be found in the 
>>menu at "File | Export as PDF..
>
>Why, pray tell, isn't this an option under 'Save As'?

I can't speak for the applications's designers, but it strikes me 
that this is very sensible - indeed useful.  The various formats 
available at Save As are alternative ways in which a document can 
sensibly be kept, with the possibility that it will subsequently be 
reopened and further edited.  Although PDF is an ideal format for 
transferring *final versions* of documents between users and 
platforms, it is quite unsuited to further editing, of 
course.  Putting PDF in the Save As menu might give users the 
impression that saving in that format would provide the same 
functionality as saving in one of the normal document formats - in 
this case .odt or .doc.  Users might save as PDF and lose the benefit 
of considerable editing time.

Consider also a user editing a file and then immediately creating a 
PDF version.  If PDF was an alternative saving format, there would be 
no warning that the edits had not been saved if the document were 
then closed.  Next time the existing .odt file was opened, recent 
editing would have been lost (and users would not be pleased).  As it 
is, exporting to PDF does not affect this protection.

I see this choice as wise.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files

[Julian Thomas <jt...@jt-mj.net>]

On 15 Apr 2014, at 05:32, Alan B <ab...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Note: if the recipient only needs to read but not edit the file Writer has
> the ability to create a .pdf. This can be found in the menu at "File |
> Export as PDF..

Why, pray tell, isn't this an option under 'Save As'???

jt

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