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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org> on 2004/10/27 21:41:39 UTC

Re: AOL Scomp Emails

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Dan Mahoney, System Admin writes:
> Hey all,
> 
> I just started getting AOL's SCOMP emails, and after a little twiddling to
> keep them from getting seen as spam by SpamAssassin, I've found a couple
> issues with them.  I was wondering if anyone else had these issues, and if
> anyone knew of any easy way around them.
> 
> 1) AOL seems to like to leave the "To:" header set to
> undisclosed_recipients@aol.com rather than setting it explicitly to the
> email address you've registered for the scomp -- apparently they bcc your
> email address.  This causes it to set off spam filters big time.  My usual
> abuse@ whitelist isn't working for this -- I don't know if anyone knows a
> human to contact at AOL, but this violates a huge standard AFAIK.

I think you really need to figure out how to whitelist that properly ;)
it looks 100% legal to me.  the "To" addr really isn't useful for very
much when whitelisting...

> What could I possibly set to find this?  I've set up a whitelist_from, but
> I have a feeling this will get abused.  I'm also not quite sure aol.net
> (not .com) has an SPF record set up -- and I feel that in a sitation where
> you're expected to blindly trust a "from" address should only be used
> where an SPF fail is a valid reason for a reject.  I've already had stupid
> spammers find my abuse box, but I don't dare to think how bad it would be
> if there was an address were were EXPECTING to get bcc'd emails from.

Either

    (a) trust their sending SMTP relays using trusted_networks so that
    those mails get ALL_TRUSTED

    (b) trust those IP ranges at a higher level, e.g. in the MTA

    (c) use whitelist_from_rcvd

> 2) This is more a pine issue than anything else, but it seems when you're
> viewing attached messages in pine, they're only seen in their "standard"
> form (i.e. there is NO way) to view full headers for an attachment, other
> than viewing the raw source of the message itself, complete with all MIME
> boundaries).  I'll write the pine dev-team on this, but I'm noting it here
> in case anyone seems to have similar issues.

no idea here ;)

- --j.
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