[GitHub] [netbeans] neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #2724: [NETBEANS-5109] Update to (Maven distributed) nbjavac15.0.0.1

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neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #2724:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2724#issuecomment-772366450


   > Clearly the decision what goes into 12.3 belongs into the hands of release coordinators (e.g. @neilcsmith-net and @geertjanw) as the integration window has already been closed. E.g. let's simplify our options and let this PR target master branch.
   
   Thanks @JaroslavTulach but a few points here -
   
   - The point of the release process is to try and take this decision _out_ of the hands of release managers. On dev@ I suggested to @matthiasblaesing we either delay the integration window on this or it would have to wait unless it fixed a critical / blocking issue. nb-javac landing late in the process has caused problems and delays before, so we need to ensure adequate beta testing with it.
   - If this was just fixing NETBEANS-5109 there would be no issue IMO. It's conflating where nb-javac is distributed from with an nb-javac update that hasn't been in testing yet.  I'm not sure if there is a list of changes in the update?  To be considered for 12.3 we'd need to be able to assess what other issues are fixed and whether to roll further betas with emphasis on testing those things.
   - Leaving aside ASF and release issues, there are two big end user things to consider - the OSUOSL connection and delivery of prompt updates - as things are we rarely deliver nb-javac updates (I think I RM'd the only one so far), and the update process is confusing for ends users due to multiple cycles.
   - Assuming binary compatibility(?) my entire reason for pushing for an NBM on the Oracle side of this is that I think it would be nice to look at pushing fixes to users of 12.3 if needed within weeks, rather than having to wait until 12.4.


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