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New committers
Hey folks,
the community around the ADF Faces donation (aka Trinidad) is growing.
We like to vote on a new committer. Now here is my question.
Where should this happen?
On the MyFaces PMC list, since MyFaces is the Trinidad / ADF Faces sponsor?
On the public dev list for the ADF / Trinidad project?
In MyFaces, when we vote on a new committer, we do this on the PMC
list. I think other projects have the same process.
Thanks,
Matthias
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Re: New committers
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >Yah, I guess so. But, then follow the rest of the stuff on the new
> >committers page that Jean sent out. -- justin
>
> thanks justin.
>
> <snip>
> After vetting the new candidate, the vote can take place either on the
> PPMC list (with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list) or on the
> developer list (with a notice posted to the Incubator's general list).
> The latter practice of a private discussion followed by a public,
> pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a Best Practice for ASF projects.
> </snip>
>
> I think I'd like to vote on the adffaces-dev list, after I had a
> discussion on the myfaces pmc list. Thanks for clearing.
There is a an additional note following the paragraph that
Matthias quoted. It links to an email discussion regarding
where issues about people should be discussed. This arose in
relation to the commit that added the above paragraph, but
no-one managed to follow up to revise this "best practice".
So i added the link to the discussion as a place-holder.
-David
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Leo et al.
thanks for you valid input.
The PPMC list has been created. (Before this thread started).
Brett told us that, after I created a jira ticket for that.
Now we use the PPMC for *private* discussions.
Regards,
Matthias
On 6/23/06, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 12:55:54PM -0700, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> > >What do you *want* to do? What makes most sense?
> >
> > well, MyFaces PMC is faster; but adffaces-ppmc has it's charme too.
> > But... after adf is a subproject we'll need to delete this list.
> ^^^ archive/disable
> > So, what is easier for you guys?
>
> Creating a mailing list is about 2-3 minutes of work, archiving it perhaps
> just a little more. Infrastructure is chronically lacking volunteers, but
> this kind of thing is nevertheless something that's ok to ask for :)
>
> > I think we should take the time for creating a PPMC list.
> > Should I bring it up to the INCUBATOR jira? Or the IPMC? Or Craig?
> > who is our mentor.
>
> What's most important is that there's agreement before there's a request
> for resources. Get agreement somewhere (general@incubator is probably the
> wrong forum for that :) ), *then* file a jira issue as documented on
> www.apache.org/dev/. Craig can do that, but others can as well. As long as
> its clear the request is inline with policy and after a PMC agreed on it.
>
> The incubator PMC is on this list and some individuals have offered
> opinions; I don't think you need to ask for formal approval from us. The
> use of PPMC lists is established practice :)
>
> LSD
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Re: New committers
Posted by Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 12:55:54PM -0700, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >What do you *want* to do? What makes most sense?
>
> well, MyFaces PMC is faster; but adffaces-ppmc has it's charme too.
> But... after adf is a subproject we'll need to delete this list.
^^^ archive/disable
> So, what is easier for you guys?
Creating a mailing list is about 2-3 minutes of work, archiving it perhaps
just a little more. Infrastructure is chronically lacking volunteers, but
this kind of thing is nevertheless something that's ok to ask for :)
> I think we should take the time for creating a PPMC list.
> Should I bring it up to the INCUBATOR jira? Or the IPMC? Or Craig?
> who is our mentor.
What's most important is that there's agreement before there's a request
for resources. Get agreement somewhere (general@incubator is probably the
wrong forum for that :) ), *then* file a jira issue as documented on
www.apache.org/dev/. Craig can do that, but others can as well. As long as
its clear the request is inline with policy and after a PMC agreed on it.
The incubator PMC is on this list and some individuals have offered
opinions; I don't think you need to ask for formal approval from us. The
use of PPMC lists is established practice :)
LSD
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Mike-
On 6/22/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think the future destination of adffaces is so clear that
> myfaces-pmc should be making the decisions. My preference is that
> adffaces-ppmc be created and those doing the adffaces work be those
> making the podling decisions. Worse case, it'll be easier to merge
> the two if we (myfaces) do absorb it as a subproject since those
> involved will all be trained at that point.
>
> What I see happening at this point is that those myfaces-pmc members
> who are involved with ADFFaces would be making all of the decisions,
> leaving out the other adffaces project members, while at the same time
> the rest of the myfaces pmc members don't reasonably have enough
> information to comment on the votes.
yes, as mentioned before, I think we should take the time for creating
the PPMC list.
I already asked howto maintain this.
...
> On 6/22/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Leo-
...
> > I think we should take the time for creating a PPMC list.
> > Should I bring it up to the INCUBATOR jira? Or the IPMC? Or Craig?
> > who is our mentor.
-Matthias
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Re: New committers
Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
I don't think the future destination of adffaces is so clear that
myfaces-pmc should be making the decisions. My preference is that
adffaces-ppmc be created and those doing the adffaces work be those
making the podling decisions. Worse case, it'll be easier to merge
the two if we (myfaces) do absorb it as a subproject since those
involved will all be trained at that point.
What I see happening at this point is that those myfaces-pmc members
who are involved with ADFFaces would be making all of the decisions,
leaving out the other adffaces project members, while at the same time
the rest of the myfaces pmc members don't reasonably have enough
information to comment on the votes.
On 6/22/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Leo-
>
> > > >Or should we create a "adffaces-ppmc" list for the adf faces incubation?
> >
> > What do you *want* to do? What makes most sense?
>
> well, MyFaces PMC is faster; but adffaces-ppmc has it's charme too.
> But... after adf is a subproject we'll need to delete this list.
> So, what is easier for you guys?
>
> > > , so we just used the Struts PMC + initial
> > > committers as an informal PPMC to vote on bringing in new committers.
> >
> > That seems fine (especially if it worked well!)
> >
> > I think this is one such example where there is no good "one size fits all"
> > answer. Eg, if you have lots of "informal PPMC" stuff to do, there's always
> > the option of setting up a mailing list :)
> >
> > What's important is that a PMC at some point is involved in the decision
> > (infra@ wants account requests coming on behalf of a PMC) and that the
> > actual "project community" (which seems to usually not be 1-1 with any PMC
> > in case of incubation) is happy with the decision process. (disclaimer:
> > there are lots of important things :) )
>
> I think we should take the time for creating a PPMC list.
> Should I bring it up to the INCUBATOR jira? Or the IPMC? Or Craig?
> who is our mentor.
>
> Thanks,
> Matthias
>
> > LSD
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Leo-
> > >Or should we create a "adffaces-ppmc" list for the adf faces incubation?
>
> What do you *want* to do? What makes most sense?
well, MyFaces PMC is faster; but adffaces-ppmc has it's charme too.
But... after adf is a subproject we'll need to delete this list.
So, what is easier for you guys?
> > , so we just used the Struts PMC + initial
> > committers as an informal PPMC to vote on bringing in new committers.
>
> That seems fine (especially if it worked well!)
>
> I think this is one such example where there is no good "one size fits all"
> answer. Eg, if you have lots of "informal PPMC" stuff to do, there's always
> the option of setting up a mailing list :)
>
> What's important is that a PMC at some point is involved in the decision
> (infra@ wants account requests coming on behalf of a PMC) and that the
> actual "project community" (which seems to usually not be 1-1 with any PMC
> in case of incubation) is happy with the decision process. (disclaimer:
> there are lots of important things :) )
I think we should take the time for creating a PPMC list.
Should I bring it up to the INCUBATOR jira? Or the IPMC? Or Craig?
who is our mentor.
Thanks,
Matthias
> LSD
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Re: New committers
Posted by Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>.
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 09:04:27PM -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > Yah, I guess so. But, then follow the rest of the stuff on the new
> >> > committers page that Jean sent out. -- justin
> >>
> >> thanks justin.
> >
> >sorry justin, for bothering you again...
> >
> >Or should we create a "adffaces-ppmc" list for the adf faces incubation?
What do you *want* to do? What makes most sense?
> We didn't have one for the WebWork incubation, which I think is similar to
> the situation you are in with ADFFaces. We also didn't get clear direction
> on what we were supposed to do
don't you love it when delegation actually works :)
> , so we just used the Struts PMC + initial
> committers as an informal PPMC to vote on bringing in new committers.
That seems fine (especially if it worked well!)
I think this is one such example where there is no good "one size fits all"
answer. Eg, if you have lots of "informal PPMC" stuff to do, there's always
the option of setting up a mailing list :)
What's important is that a PMC at some point is involved in the decision
(infra@ wants account requests coming on behalf of a PMC) and that the
actual "project community" (which seems to usually not be 1-1 with any PMC
in case of incubation) is happy with the decision process. (disclaimer:
there are lots of important things :) )
LSD
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On 6/21/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In previous discussions, the eventual status (subproject/project) of
> the podling was not to be considered in decisions until after the
> project graduated. It seems like this would continue to be a good
well, the prefered status was/is being a MyFaces subproject
...
> top-level project instead. Struts/WW was a little different
> situation since the immediate goal was to merge the two while
> ADFFaces/MyFaces are two different JSF-related things. Parts of
> ADFFaces will likely (at this point) be merged into MyFaces Tomahawk,
> but nothing in ADFFaces is likely to make it into the MyFaces core.
True, since MyFaces Core is "only" the API and its Impl. There are
some common useful services/API in ADF Faces, like
ExternalRenderKitService. Those things are not bound to a specific
RenderKit. The base stuff can also be used in Tobago; but this
discussion should happen on the MyFaces list, since we are to JSF
related right now ;-)
But, I am not happy with the status of MyFaces itself. I'd like to see
a generic "JavaServer Faces" TLP like WebServices or Portals. This
project - Apache Faces - should have serveral subprojects, like:
-MyFaces (what is yet known as MyFaces Core (API and its impl)
-Tomahawk (custom components)
-Tobago (layout-oriented JSF stuff)
-Sandbox (our sandbox)
-Shared ("common" services/api usefull for all of them)
Could be interesting for Struts Shale too.
Regards,
Matthias
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Re: New committers
Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
On 6/22/06, Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 09:04:27PM -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
> > We didn't have one for the WebWork incubation, which I think is similar to
> > the situation you are in with ADFFaces. We also didn't get clear direction
> > on what we were supposed to do, so we just used the Struts PMC + initial
> > committers as an informal PPMC to vote on bringing in new committers.
>
> I'm happy calling that a reasonable precedent and incorporating it in the docs
> being written this weekend. ;-) -- justin
In previous discussions, the eventual status (subproject/project) of
the podling was not to be considered in decisions until after the
project graduated. It seems like this would continue to be a good
policy since the folks most involved with the podling are the podling
committers, and they're the ones who should be getting the pmc
"internship". Whether that set of podling individuals eventually
gets merged into another project or the poding goes top-level should
be irrelevent. If the destination pmc members want to be involved in
the podling ppmc, then they should be explicitly involving themselves
in its development. Some of the MyFaces members are doing this.
Some of us (myself included) aren't. I don't see why those of us who
aren't explicitly involving ourselves should be making decisions for
the podling. On top of that, down the road, it may turn out to be a
top-level project instead. Struts/WW was a little different
situation since the immediate goal was to merge the two while
ADFFaces/MyFaces are two different JSF-related things. Parts of
ADFFaces will likely (at this point) be merged into MyFaces Tomahawk,
but nothing in ADFFaces is likely to make it into the MyFaces core.
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Re: New committers
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 09:04:27PM -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
> We didn't have one for the WebWork incubation, which I think is similar to
> the situation you are in with ADFFaces. We also didn't get clear direction
> on what we were supposed to do, so we just used the Struts PMC + initial
> committers as an informal PPMC to vote on bringing in new committers.
I'm happy calling that a reasonable precedent and incorporating it in the docs
being written this weekend. ;-) -- justin
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Re: New committers
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Yah, I guess so. But, then follow the rest of the stuff on the new
> > > committers page that Jean sent out. -- justin
> >
> > thanks justin.
>
> sorry justin, for bothering you again...
>
> Or should we create a "adffaces-ppmc" list for the adf faces incubation?
We didn't have one for the WebWork incubation, which I think is similar to
the situation you are in with ADFFaces. We also didn't get clear direction
on what we were supposed to do, so we just used the Struts PMC + initial
committers as an informal PPMC to vote on bringing in new committers.
--
Martin Cooper
-Matthias
>
> > <snip>
> > After vetting the new candidate, the vote can take place either on the
> > PPMC list (with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list) or on the
> > developer list (with a notice posted to the Incubator's general list).
> > The latter practice of a private discussion followed by a public,
> > pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a Best Practice for ASF projects.
> > </snip>
> >
> > I think I'd like to vote on the adffaces-dev list, after I had a
> > discussion on the myfaces pmc list. Thanks for clearing.
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
>
>
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On 6/21/06, Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> For Derby we had a PPMC which was useful for personnel discussions. On
> graduation responsbility was transferred to the DB PMC.
To me a ppmc for *each* incubator project sounds reasonable.
> On Tuscany we don't have a PPMC or other private forum - we've added
> committers so far based on adhoc discussions. I think that is
> problematic as it provides no visibility to either the Incubator or
> WebServices PMCs on how those decisions are being made.
-1 on that :)
> I think it would be a good idea for every podling to have such a forum
> so that the committers involved can become familiar with Apache's way
> and so that the IPMC can perform its oversight role. This also provides
> new committers with exposure to PMC responsibilities which is valuable
> if the podling graduates into an existing project and essential if it
> exits as a TLP.
yes.
> --
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Re: New committers
Posted by Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org>.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>
> I think the initial decision was that a PPMC was not necessary as the code was
> just going to be imported into the MyFaces project. Therefore, the MyFaces PMC
> is responsible for executing the duties that a PPMC would normally do.
>
> Perhaps we need to clarify these types of situations. What have we done for
> mod_ftp, for example? My glance at the status page says that there isn't a
> PPMC either. So, I'd guess pmc@httpd would control adding new committers to
> it. I guess...
>
> Anyone else have an opinion? Any other examples? -- justin
>
For Derby we had a PPMC which was useful for personnel discussions. On
graduation responsbility was transferred to the DB PMC.
On Tuscany we don't have a PPMC or other private forum - we've added
committers so far based on adhoc discussions. I think that is
problematic as it provides no visibility to either the Incubator or
WebServices PMCs on how those decisions are being made.
I think it would be a good idea for every podling to have such a forum
so that the committers involved can become familiar with Apache's way
and so that the IPMC can perform its oversight role. This also provides
new committers with exposure to PMC responsibilities which is valuable
if the podling graduates into an existing project and essential if it
exits as a TLP.
--
Jeremy
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
>
> I think the initial decision was that a PPMC was not necessary as the code was
> just going to be imported into the MyFaces project. Therefore, the MyFaces PMC
> is responsible for executing the duties that a PPMC would normally do.
Yeah, right the goal was being a MyFaces subproject. Since ADF Faces
is not a small piece of software a TLP status might be reasonable.
That up to the incubator PMC; but -again- prefered choice was being a
subproject.
See [1] for more
<snip>
(1) scope of the subprojects
Although ADF Faces could work well as a TLP, our preference would be
to enter ASF as a MyFaces subproject, but we leave it to the Incubator
PMC and ASF Board to make the final decision.
</snip>
-Matthias
[1] Proposal for ADF Faces, a MyFaces subproject -
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/adfproposal
> Perhaps we need to clarify these types of situations. What have we done for
> mod_ftp, for example? My glance at the status page says that there isn't a
> PPMC either. So, I'd guess pmc@httpd would control adding new committers to
> it. I guess...
>
> Anyone else have an opinion? Any other examples? -- justin
>
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Re: New committers
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 08:50:30PM -0700, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Yah, I guess so. But, then follow the rest of the stuff on the new
> >> committers page that Jean sent out. -- justin
> >
> >thanks justin.
>
> sorry justin, for bothering you again...
>
> Or should we create a "adffaces-ppmc" list for the adf faces incubation?
I think the initial decision was that a PPMC was not necessary as the code was
just going to be imported into the MyFaces project. Therefore, the MyFaces PMC
is responsible for executing the duties that a PPMC would normally do.
Perhaps we need to clarify these types of situations. What have we done for
mod_ftp, for example? My glance at the status page says that there isn't a
PPMC either. So, I'd guess pmc@httpd would control adding new committers to
it. I guess...
Anyone else have an opinion? Any other examples? -- justin
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Yah, I guess so. But, then follow the rest of the stuff on the new
> > committers page that Jean sent out. -- justin
>
> thanks justin.
sorry justin, for bothering you again...
Or should we create a "adffaces-ppmc" list for the adf faces incubation?
-Matthias
> <snip>
> After vetting the new candidate, the vote can take place either on the
> PPMC list (with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list) or on the
> developer list (with a notice posted to the Incubator's general list).
> The latter practice of a private discussion followed by a public,
> pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a Best Practice for ASF projects.
> </snip>
>
> I think I'd like to vote on the adffaces-dev list, after I had a
> discussion on the myfaces pmc list. Thanks for clearing.
>
> -Matthias
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
> Yah, I guess so. But, then follow the rest of the stuff on the new
> committers page that Jean sent out. -- justin
thanks justin.
<snip>
After vetting the new candidate, the vote can take place either on the
PPMC list (with notice posted to the Incubator PMC list) or on the
developer list (with a notice posted to the Incubator's general list).
The latter practice of a private discussion followed by a public,
pro-forma, vote is re-emerging as a Best Practice for ASF projects.
</snip>
I think I'd like to vote on the adffaces-dev list, after I had a
discussion on the myfaces pmc list. Thanks for clearing.
-Matthias
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Re: New committers
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Because the goal is to have the ADF Faces dontaion (Trinidad) as a
> subproject of the MyFaces project. Like the Tobago incubation last
> year.
>
> So using the MyFaces PMC list?
Yah, I guess so. But, then follow the rest of the stuff on the new
committers page that Jean sent out. -- justin
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
No ppmc list has been created for the adffaces donation
see here the list of our mailing lists:
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-16
Because the goal is to have the ADF Faces dontaion (Trinidad) as a
subproject of the MyFaces project. Like the Tobago incubation last
year.
So using the MyFaces PMC list?
Regards,
Matthias
On 6/21/06, Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com> wrote:
> On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > the community around the ADF Faces donation (aka Trinidad) is growing.
> > We like to vote on a new committer. Now here is my question.
> >
> > Where should this happen?
>
> Isn't there a PPMC list for this? -- justin
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
> doh. :-) sorry. reading emails too quickly ...
:)
so, what todo? Bringing it up the MyFaces PMC ?
three of the ADF Faces committers are PMC members.
Or should we vote on the dev list? (I don't like this usecase)
> -jean
-Matthias
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Re: New committers
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> Jean-
>
> thanks for your email, but the adf faces project has no ppmc, b/c
> we like to be a subproject of our sponsor the myfaces project.
>
> That's why I asked ;)
doh. :-) sorry. reading emails too quickly ...
-jean
> -Matthias
>
> On 6/21/06, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>
>> Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>> > On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> the community around the ADF Faces donation (aka Trinidad) is growing.
>> >> We like to vote on a new committer. Now here is my question.
>> >>
>> >> Where should this happen?
>> >
>> > Isn't there a PPMC list for this? -- justin
>>
>>
>> Incubator guidelines recommend discussing the candidate on the PPMC
>> list, then doing the actual vote on the PPMC list or the dev list:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/learn/newcommitters.html
>>
>> -jean
>>
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Re: New committers
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Jean-
thanks for your email, but the adf faces project has no ppmc, b/c
we like to be a subproject of our sponsor the myfaces project.
That's why I asked ;)
-Matthias
On 6/21/06, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
> Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> > On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> the community around the ADF Faces donation (aka Trinidad) is growing.
> >> We like to vote on a new committer. Now here is my question.
> >>
> >> Where should this happen?
> >
> > Isn't there a PPMC list for this? -- justin
>
>
> Incubator guidelines recommend discussing the candidate on the PPMC
> list, then doing the actual vote on the PPMC list or the dev list:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/learn/newcommitters.html
>
> -jean
>
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Re: New committers
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> the community around the ADF Faces donation (aka Trinidad) is growing.
>> We like to vote on a new committer. Now here is my question.
>>
>> Where should this happen?
>
> Isn't there a PPMC list for this? -- justin
Incubator guidelines recommend discussing the candidate on the PPMC
list, then doing the actual vote on the PPMC list or the dev list:
http://incubator.apache.org/learn/newcommitters.html
-jean
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Re: New committers
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 6/21/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> the community around the ADF Faces donation (aka Trinidad) is growing.
> We like to vote on a new committer. Now here is my question.
>
> Where should this happen?
Isn't there a PPMC list for this? -- justin
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