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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by René Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de> on 2020/01/02 13:25:25 UTC
arrange automatically video-pictures
Hello,
yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
videos-pcitures) and so on.
Idea:
Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
Or have anybody another idea?
(Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
With best regards,
René
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I would love to get help with this task :)
Right now "audio-only" pod has following controls:
Own pod
1) "mic level" as bar
General
1) "exclusive audio" button
2) "mute" button + volume control
3) refresh button
4) *Optional "mic status as text"
I see no way to preserve ""mic level" as bar" without pod
"mic status as text" also should be removed
WDYT?
Mockup of how this can look like would be appreciated
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 16:34, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> +1 for "no-video-pods-for-audio-only". user pictures can be seen in the
> user tab and placeholder don't have any further information...
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 05.01.20 um 06:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Maybe we have UX expert here?
> I personally don't really like the idea video pods will be
> jumping/scrolling back and forth
> On the other hand someone might want to see all participants (this
> scrollable area might not be the best solution in this case)
> Maybe if I implement "no-video-pods-for-audio-only" mode it will improve
> situation
> not sure
>
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 02:11, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be a
>> very good solution for me.
>>
>> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone switch
>> on - maybe a discussion between all members.
>> What order do you make there?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4
>> students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the
>> right of the lower third.
>>
>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into
>> a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the
>> student's webcam to position 2.
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> it looks good.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>
>>
>>
>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing. We
>> made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>
>> Hey @all,
>>
>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to the
>> "open themes" i think).
>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users
>> and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little
>> bit shady ;-)
>>
>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>> solution?!
>>
>> Greetz
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Rene,
>>
>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>> It was discussed some time ago
>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam
>> size is fixed"
>>
>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>
>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a "
>>> lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right.
>>> We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
>>> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the
>>> big video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All
>>> other video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>>
>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>
>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
>>> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> Boah: Cool!
>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>
>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <
>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>
>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Idea:
>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
+1 for "no-video-pods-for-audio-only". user pictures can be seen in the
user tab and placeholder don't have any further information...
Greetings Peter
Am 05.01.20 um 06:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Maybe we have UX expert here?
> I personally don't really like the idea video pods will be
> jumping/scrolling back and forth
> On the other hand someone might want to see all participants (this
> scrollable area might not be the best solution in this case)
> Maybe if I implement "no-video-pods-for-audio-only" mode it will
> improve situation
> not sure
>
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 02:11, R. Scholz
> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems
> to be a very good solution for me.
>
> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone
> switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
> What order do you make there?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more
>> than 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams require
>> scrolling to the right of the lower third.
>>
>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active
>> Speaker into a position next to the admin. To put it another
>> way, divert the student's webcam to position 2.
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>
>>>> it looks good.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>>>>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind
>>>>> of "video-wall".
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also
>>>>>> concerning to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up
>>>>>> to 8 users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me.
>>>>>> Most of them are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an
>>>>>> optional solution?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students
>>>>>>> and webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature
>>>>>>> like me.
>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always
>>>>>>>> load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far
>>>>>>>> left and students to the right. We don't plan on
>>>>>>>> having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
>>>>>>>> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code
>>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This
>>>>>>>>> "hack" removes the big video-pod in the interview room
>>>>>>>>> if the room name contains a "→". All other video pods
>>>>>>>>> will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically
>>>>>>>>>>> arrange.
>>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only
>>>>>>>>>>> one video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange
>>>>>>>>>>> all avaiable
>>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange
>>>>>>>>>>> all windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Maybe we have UX expert here?
I personally don't really like the idea video pods will be
jumping/scrolling back and forth
On the other hand someone might want to see all participants (this
scrollable area might not be the best solution in this case)
Maybe if I implement "no-video-pods-for-audio-only" mode it will improve
situation
not sure
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 02:11, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be a
> very good solution for me.
>
> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone switch
> on - maybe a discussion between all members.
> What order do you make there?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4
> students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the
> right of the lower third.
>
> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into
> a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the
> student's webcam to position 2.
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> it looks good.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>
> Hi,
>
> so the "hack" looks like...
>
>
>
> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing. We
> made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>
> Hey @all,
>
> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to the
> "open themes" i think).
> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users
> and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little
> bit shady ;-)
>
> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional solution?!
>
> Greetz
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Rene,
>
> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
> It was discussed some time ago
> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam
> size is fixed"
>
> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>
>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a "
>> lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right.
>> We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
>> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the big
>> video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All other
>> video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>
>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>
>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
>> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> Boah: Cool!
>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>
>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <
>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>
>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>
>>> Idea:
>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Maxim,
I'm happy.
I put it in JIRA.
With best regards,
René
Am 05.02.2020 um 08:06 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Rene,
>
> yes will try to implement it (currently busy doing bootstrap migration
> :)))
> Could you please file JIRA?
>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 22:59, R. Scholz
> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>
> Hello Maxi,
>
> do you see a chance to implement my wish?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 22.01.2020 um 18:11 schrieb R. Scholz:
>> Hello Hemant,
>>
>> that sounds very good.
>>
>> Its interesting how different is our aspects. But this different
>> meanings make "our" OM better from day to day.
>> I hope Maxim has a good idea how to implement.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 22.01.2020 um 04:09 schrieb Coscend@OM:
>>>
>>> Dear Community,
>>>
>>> For piloting, perhaps we could have:
>>>
>>> ·one room with sorting of video pods –where only a few
>>> participants attend.
>>> Use cases - hospitals: Patients with two or more doctors consulting
>>>
>>> ·other rooms without sorting – where the participants are many.
>>> Use cases - hospitals: Training interns and residents in 10
>>> hospital locations.
>>>
>>> Universities – teaching students or collaboration among students.
>>>
>>> Corporate - Administrative meetings between managers at 10-15
>>> locations.
>>>
>>> Eventually, in the future…down the line…maybe the algorithm
>>> evolves…where we could choose the above two configurations for
>>> any room from the admin àconfiguration.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>
>>> www.Coscend.com <http://www.coscend.com/>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…*
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding
>>> E-mail Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted
>>> at:http://www.Coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html
>>> <http://www.coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html>
>>>
>>> *From:*R. Scholz [mailto:rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:11 AM
>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I can't believe that no other is interesting in my suggestion
>>> with sort and align the video-pictures.
>>> I would be very happy if anybody write something to this topic.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> Am 16.01.2020 um 10:35 schrieb René Scholz:
>>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
>>>
>>> For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I
>>> think for further using the one (or more) moderator(s)
>>> should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind
>>> them - in a random order its ok.
>>> In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short
>>> while equivalent to a conversation in a group where
>>> I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green
>>> mic-bar in the video when somebody speak.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video
>>> windows same sized (regardless selected picture size)
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>>>
>>> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them
>>> starting bottom-left corner might work
>>>
>>> As sum up:
>>>
>>> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
>>>
>>> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be
>>> 120x90 (?)
>>>
>>> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top
>>> starting bottom left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
>>>
>>> 4) is sorting required?
>>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz
>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers
>>> to show them the "OM-manager-conference room".
>>> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful.
>>> OM with coturn behind a NAT, latency mic/video ca.
>>> 1/2sec.
>>> Short word: GREAT!
>>>
>>> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On
>>> every device (PC, Notebook, Tablet) the pictures
>>> start in random order, place and size.
>>> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the
>>> pictures orders again- and the size reset and I can
>>> not see the Whiteboard.
>>>
>>> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
>>> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I
>>> need (and want) for the type "conference-room".
>>>
>>> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven
>>> and whatever I need for this at the moment is not
>>> nearly enough to implement this.
>>> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my
>>> running OM-M4, but...)
>>>
>>> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>>>
>>> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
>>> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
>>> - places this videos at the bottom
>>>
>>> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I
>>> can see the whiteboard and I can see the members.
>>> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6.
>>> Maybe its a possibility to limit this funtion to this.
>>> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an
>>> automatic. A keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>>>
>>> What do you mean?
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> Here is the code for the lower third and web
>>> cam arrangement. Not implemented the alt - z
>>> idea yet so if you have more than 4 students
>>> you will need to scroll.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>
>>> If there is a lot of conversation between
>>> different people then maybe this room
>>> would need a different set up.
>>>
>>> For simplicity sake maybe a key
>>> combination (alt - z) pressed by a
>>> speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>>>
>>> Is this not how a conference call would
>>> work with several people on the line.
>>> You would need to press a button to speak ?
>>>
>>> I can think of more ways to do this but
>>> the programming tasks mount.
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB
>>> and bottom the videos seems to be a very
>>> good solution for me.
>>>
>>> I think a communication-room all members
>>> have video and microphone switch on -
>>> maybe a discussion between all members.
>>> What order do you make there?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> I think there is a way to
>>> accommodate the need to have more
>>> than 4 students. We can do it
>>> already but the webcams require
>>> scrolling to the right of the lower
>>> third.
>>>
>>> So I think a way around this is to
>>> stream the Active Speaker into
>>> a position next to the admin. To
>>> put it another way, divert the
>>> student's webcam to position 2.
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah it looks great but would
>>> need the WB
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>> it looks good.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16
>>> schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interview room as known
>>> (without wb), and the
>>> big videopod is missing.
>>> We made a test with 16
>>> videos. This generates a
>>> kind of "video-wall".
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39
>>> schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>
>>> Hey @all,
>>>
>>> Maxim is right, we
>>> discuss this on
>>> multiple times (also
>>> concerning to the
>>> "open themes" i think).
>>> I would really
>>> appreciate if this
>>> would work. But we
>>> have up to 8 users
>>> and 1 admin. Video
>>> size is unimportant
>>> for me. Most of them
>>> are a little bit
>>> shady ;-)
>>>
>>> Maybe we can improve
>>> Daniels source code
>>> to evaluate an
>>> optional solution?!
>>>
>>> Greetz
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32,
>>> schrieb Maxim
>>> Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello Rene,
>>>
>>> I'm afraid the
>>> feature can't be
>>> included as-is :(
>>>
>>> It was discussed
>>> some time ago
>>>
>>> We can't
>>> guarantee there
>>> will be "no more
>>> than 4 students
>>> and webcam size
>>> is fixed"
>>>
>>> I'm open to your
>>> ideas how room
>>> space can be
>>> enhanced :)
>>>
>>> On Sat, 4 Jan
>>> 2020 at 00:00,
>>> R. Scholz
>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> its good to
>>> see that
>>> anyone else
>>> need such a
>>> feature like me.
>>> I will be
>>> very happy
>>> if you can
>>> open your
>>> source.
>>>
>>> Maybe its a
>>> fetaure
>>> Maxim will
>>> include?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> Am
>>> 03.01.2020
>>> um 14:55
>>> schrieb
>>> Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> Also
>>> been
>>> working
>>> on
>>> this
>>> so the
>>> cameras
>>> always
>>> load in
>>> a "
>>> lower
>>> third".
>>> Admin
>>> always
>>> to the
>>> far left
>>> and
>>> students
>>> to the
>>> right.
>>> We don't
>>> plan on
>>> having
>>> more
>>> than 4
>>> students
>>> and
>>> webcam
>>> size is
>>> fixed.
>>> Seems
>>> to be
>>> stable
>>> now so
>>> I'll
>>> open
>>> source
>>> the code
>>> soon.
>>>
>>> On
>>> 1/3/2020
>>> 10:27
>>> AM,
>>> Peter
>>> Dähn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> there,
>>>
>>> I
>>> made
>>> a
>>> little
>>> change
>>> to
>>> the
>>> interview
>>> room.
>>> This
>>> "hack"
>>> removes
>>> the
>>> big
>>> video-pod
>>> in
>>> the
>>> interview
>>> room
>>> if
>>> the
>>> room
>>> name
>>> contains
>>> a
>>> "→".
>>> All
>>> other
>>> video
>>> pods
>>> will
>>> be
>>> placed
>>> automatically
>>> in
>>> equal
>>> size.
>>>
>>> Use
>>> this
>>> function
>>> on
>>> linux,
>>> before
>>> build:
>>>
>>> sed
>>> -i.bak
>>> -e
>>> 's/_inited
>>> =
>>> true;/_inited
>>> =
>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
>>> !=
>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Am
>>> 02.01.20
>>> um
>>> 16:38
>>> schrieb
>>> R.
>>> Scholz:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>> Maxim,
>>>
>>> Boah:
>>> Cool!
>>>
>>> I'm
>>> deepest
>>> impressed.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> Am
>>> 02.01.2020
>>> um
>>> 15:17
>>> schrieb
>>> Maxim
>>> Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>
>>> video.arrange.keycode
>>> ?
>>>
>>> On
>>> Thu,
>>> 2
>>> Jan
>>> 2020
>>> at
>>> 20:25,
>>> René
>>> Scholz
>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday
>>> I
>>> had
>>> made
>>> a
>>> conference-room
>>> for
>>> 4
>>> users.
>>>
>>> When
>>> they
>>> login
>>> I
>>> want
>>> that
>>> the
>>> camera
>>> (all
>>> Notebooks,
>>> Windows
>>> 10)
>>>
>>> switch
>>> on
>>> and
>>> that
>>> the
>>> pictures
>>> automatically
>>> arrange.
>>> I
>>> know
>>> its
>>> a
>>> problem
>>> for
>>> the
>>> first
>>> user
>>> (only
>>> one
>>> video),
>>> the
>>> 2nd
>>> (two
>>>
>>> videos-pcitures)
>>> and
>>> so
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Idea:
>>> Is
>>> it
>>> possible
>>> to
>>> make
>>> a
>>> button
>>> that
>>> can
>>> arrange
>>> all
>>> avaiable
>>>
>>> video-screens
>>> on
>>> the
>>> avaiable
>>> place
>>> on
>>> the
>>> monitor?
>>> Or
>>> have
>>> anybody
>>> another
>>> idea?
>>> (Similar
>>> to
>>> the
>>> function
>>> from
>>> Windows
>>> to
>>> arrange
>>> all
>>> windows.)
>>>
>>> With
>>> best
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim
>>> aka
>>> solomax
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Rene,
yes will try to implement it (currently busy doing bootstrap migration :)))
Could you please file JIRA?
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 22:59, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
wrote:
> Hello Maxi,
>
> do you see a chance to implement my wish?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 22.01.2020 um 18:11 schrieb R. Scholz:
>
> Hello Hemant,
>
> that sounds very good.
>
> Its interesting how different is our aspects. But this different meanings
> make "our" OM better from day to day.
> I hope Maxim has a good idea how to implement.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>
> Am 22.01.2020 um 04:09 schrieb Coscend@OM:
>
> Dear Community,
>
>
>
> For piloting, perhaps we could have:
>
>
>
> · one room with sorting of video pods –where only a few
> participants attend.
> Use cases - hospitals: Patients with two or more doctors consulting
>
>
>
> · other rooms without sorting – where the participants are many.
> Use cases - hospitals: Training interns and residents in 10 hospital
> locations.
>
>
>
> Universities – teaching students or collaboration among students.
>
>
>
> Corporate - Administrative meetings between managers at 10-15 locations.
>
>
>
> Eventually, in the future…down the line…maybe the algorithm evolves…where
> we could choose the above two configurations for any room from the admin à
> configuration.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Hemant K. Sabat
>
> www.Coscend.com <http://www.coscend.com/>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…*
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
> http://www.Coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html
> <http://www.coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* R. Scholz [mailto:rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:11 AM
> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I can't believe that no other is interesting in my suggestion with sort
> and align the video-pictures.
> I would be very happy if anybody write something to this topic.
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 16.01.2020 um 10:35 schrieb René Scholz:
>
> Hello Maxim,
>
> your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
>
> For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I think for further
> using the one (or more) moderator(s)
> should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind them - in a
> random order its ok.
> In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short while equivalent
> to a conversation in a group where
> I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green mic-bar in the
> video when somebody speak.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
>
>
> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows same sized
> (regardless selected picture size)
>
> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>
>
>
> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting bottom-left
> corner might work
>
> As sum up:
>
> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
>
> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
>
> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top starting bottom
> left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
>
> 4) is sorting required?
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them the
> "OM-manager-conference room".
> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with coturn behind
> a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
> Short word: GREAT!
>
> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device (PC,
> Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place and size.
> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders again-
> and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
>
> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and want) for
> the type "conference-room".
>
> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I need for
> this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
>
> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>
> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
> - places this videos at the bottom
>
> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the whiteboard
> and I can see the members.
> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a possibility
> to limit this funtion to this.
> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A
> keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>
> What do you mean?
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement. Not
> implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4 students
> you will need to scroll.
>
> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> If there is a lot of conversation between different people then maybe
> this room would need a different set up.
>
>
>
> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by a
> speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>
> Is this not how a conference call would work with several people on
> the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>
> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be a
> very good solution for me.
>
> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone switch
> on - maybe a discussion between all members.
> What order do you make there?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4
> students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the
> right of the lower third.
>
> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into
> a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the
> student's webcam to position 2.
>
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>
> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> it looks good.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>
> Hi,
>
> so the "hack" looks like...
>
>
>
> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing. We
> made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>
> Hey @all,
>
> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to the
> "open themes" i think).
> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users
> and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little
> bit shady ;-)
>
> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional solution?!
>
> Greetz
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Rene,
>
>
>
> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>
> It was discussed some time ago
>
> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam
> size is fixed"
>
>
>
> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>
>
>
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>
> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a " lower
> third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right. We
> don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>
>
>
> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the big
> video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All other
> video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>
> Use this function on linux, before build:
>
> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>
> Hello Maxim,
>
> Boah: Cool!
> I'm deepest impressed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>
>
>
> video.arrange.keycode ?
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <
> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>
> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>
> Idea:
> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
> Or have anybody another idea?
> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Maxi,
do you see a chance to implement my wish?
Best regards,
René
Am 22.01.2020 um 18:11 schrieb R. Scholz:
> Hello Hemant,
>
> that sounds very good.
>
> Its interesting how different is our aspects. But this different
> meanings make "our" OM better from day to day.
> I hope Maxim has a good idea how to implement.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>
> Am 22.01.2020 um 04:09 schrieb Coscend@OM:
>>
>> Dear Community,
>>
>> For piloting, perhaps we could have:
>>
>> ·one room with sorting of video pods –where only a few participants
>> attend.
>> Use cases - hospitals: Patients with two or more doctors consulting
>>
>> ·other rooms without sorting – where the participants are many.
>> Use cases - hospitals: Training interns and residents in 10 hospital
>> locations.
>>
>> Universities – teaching students or collaboration among students.
>>
>> Corporate - Administrative meetings between managers at 10-15 locations.
>>
>> Eventually, in the future…down the line…maybe the algorithm
>> evolves…where we could choose the above two configurations for any
>> room from the admin àconfiguration.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>
>> www.Coscend.com <http://www.coscend.com/>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…*
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted
>> at:http://www.Coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html
>> <http://www.coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html>
>>
>> *From:*R. Scholz [mailto:rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:11 AM
>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I can't believe that no other is interesting in my suggestion with
>> sort and align the video-pictures.
>> I would be very happy if anybody write something to this topic.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>> Am 16.01.2020 um 10:35 schrieb René Scholz:
>>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
>>
>> For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I think for
>> further using the one (or more) moderator(s)
>> should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind them -
>> in a random order its ok.
>> In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short while
>> equivalent to a conversation in a group where
>> I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green mic-bar
>> in the video when somebody speak.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows
>> same sized (regardless selected picture size)
>>
>> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>>
>> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting
>> bottom-left corner might work
>>
>> As sum up:
>>
>> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
>>
>> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
>>
>> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top
>> starting bottom left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
>>
>> 4) is sorting required?
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz
>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to
>> show them the "OM-manager-conference room".
>> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM
>> with coturn behind a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
>> Short word: GREAT!
>>
>> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every
>> device (PC, Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in
>> random order, place and size.
>> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures
>> orders again- and the size reset and I can not see the
>> Whiteboard.
>>
>> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
>> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need
>> (and want) for the type "conference-room".
>>
>> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and
>> whatever I need for this at the moment is not nearly
>> enough to implement this.
>> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running
>> OM-M4, but...)
>>
>> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>>
>> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
>> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
>> - places this videos at the bottom
>>
>> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can
>> see the whiteboard and I can see the members.
>> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe
>> its a possibility to limit this funtion to this.
>> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an
>> automatic. A keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>>
>> What do you mean?
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam
>> arrangement. Not implemented the alt - z idea yet
>> so if you have more than 4 students you will need
>> to scroll.
>>
>> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>>
>> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> If there is a lot of conversation between
>> different people then maybe this room would
>> need a different set up.
>>
>> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination
>> (alt - z) pressed by a speaker would bring
>> a speaker to position 2.
>>
>> Is this not how a conference call would work
>> with several people on the line. You would
>> need to press a button to speak ?
>>
>> I can think of more ways to do this but the
>> programming tasks mount.
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and
>> bottom the videos seems to be a very good
>> solution for me.
>>
>> I think a communication-room all members have
>> video and microphone switch on - maybe a
>> discussion between all members.
>> What order do you make there?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> I think there is a way to accommodate
>> the need to have more than 4
>> students. We can do it already but the
>> webcams require scrolling to the right of
>> the lower third.
>>
>> So I think a way around this is to
>> stream the Active Speaker into a
>> position next to the admin. To put it
>> another way, divert the student's
>> webcam to position 2.
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> Yeah it looks great but would
>> need the WB
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> it looks good.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb
>> Peter Dähn:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>
>>
>>
>> Interview room as known
>> (without wb), and the big
>> videopod is missing. We made
>> a test with 16 videos. This
>> generates a kind of "video-wall".
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb
>> Stefan Kühl:
>>
>> Hey @all,
>>
>> Maxim is right, we
>> discuss this on multiple
>> times (also concerning to
>> the "open themes" i think).
>> I would really appreciate
>> if this would work. But
>> we have up to 8 users and
>> 1 admin. Video size is
>> unimportant for me. Most
>> of them are a little bit
>> shady ;-)
>>
>> Maybe we can improve
>> Daniels source code to
>> evaluate an optional
>> solution?!
>>
>> Greetz
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32,
>> schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Rene,
>>
>> I'm afraid the
>> feature can't be
>> included as-is :(
>>
>> It was discussed some
>> time ago
>>
>> We can't
>> guarantee there will
>> be "no more than 4
>> students and webcam
>> size is fixed"
>>
>> I'm open to your
>> ideas how room space
>> can be enhanced :)
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at
>> 00:00, R. Scholz
>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> its good to see
>> that anyone else
>> need such a
>> feature like me.
>> I will be very
>> happy if you can
>> open your source.
>>
>> Maybe its a
>> fetaure Maxim
>> will include?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um
>> 14:55 schrieb
>> Daniel Baker:
>>
>> Also been
>> working on
>> this so
>> the cameras
>> always load
>> in a " lower
>> third". Admin
>> always to the
>> far left and
>> students to
>> the right.
>> We don't plan
>> on having
>> more than 4
>> students and
>> webcam size
>> is fixed.
>> Seems to be
>> stable now so
>> I'll open
>> source the
>> code soon.
>>
>> On 1/3/2020
>> 10:27 AM,
>> Peter Dähn wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I made a
>> little
>> change to
>> the
>> interview
>> room.
>> This
>> "hack"
>> removes
>> the big
>> video-pod
>> in the
>> interview
>> room if
>> the room
>> name
>> contains
>> a "→".
>> All other
>> video
>> pods will
>> be placed
>> automatically
>> in equal
>> size.
>>
>> Use this
>> function
>> on linux,
>> before build:
>>
>> sed
>> -i.bak -e
>> 's/_inited
>> =
>> true;/_inited
>> =
>> true;name=$(".room.name
>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
>> !=
>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>
>> Greetings
>> Peter
>>
>> Am
>> 02.01.20
>> um 16:38
>> schrieb
>> R. Scholz:
>>
>> Hello
>> Maxim,
>>
>> Boah:
>> Cool!
>> I'm
>> deepest
>> impressed.
>>
>> Best
>> regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>> Am
>> 02.01.2020
>> um
>> 15:17
>> schrieb
>> Maxim
>> Solodovnik:
>>
>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>
>> video.arrange.keycode
>> ?
>>
>> On
>> Thu,
>> 2
>> Jan
>> 2020
>> at
>> 20:25,
>> René
>> Scholz
>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday
>> I
>> had
>> made
>> a
>> conference-room
>> for
>> 4
>> users.
>>
>> When
>> they
>> login
>> I
>> want
>> that
>> the
>> camera
>> (all
>> Notebooks,
>> Windows
>> 10)
>>
>> switch
>> on
>> and
>> that
>> the
>> pictures
>> automatically
>> arrange.
>> I
>> know
>> its
>> a
>> problem
>> for
>> the
>> first
>> user
>> (only
>> one
>> video),
>> the
>> 2nd
>> (two
>>
>> videos-pcitures)
>> and
>> so
>> on.
>>
>> Idea:
>> Is
>> it
>> possible
>> to
>> make
>> a
>> button
>> that
>> can
>> arrange
>> all
>> avaiable
>>
>> video-screens
>> on
>> the
>> avaiable
>> place
>> on
>> the
>> monitor?
>> Or
>> have
>> anybody
>> another
>> idea?
>> (Similar
>> to
>> the
>> function
>> from
>> Windows
>> to
>> arrange
>> all
>> windows.)
>>
>> With
>> best
>> regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
>> Maxim
>> aka
>> solomax
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Hemant,
that sounds very good.
Its interesting how different is our aspects. But this different
meanings make "our" OM better from day to day.
I hope Maxim has a good idea how to implement.
Best regards,
René
Am 22.01.2020 um 04:09 schrieb Coscend@OM:
>
> Dear Community,
>
> For piloting, perhaps we could have:
>
> ·one room with sorting of video pods –where only a few participants
> attend.
> Use cases - hospitals: Patients with two or more doctors consulting
>
> ·other rooms without sorting – where the participants are many.
> Use cases - hospitals: Training interns and residents in 10 hospital
> locations.
>
> Universities – teaching students or collaboration among students.
>
> Corporate - Administrative meetings between managers at 10-15 locations.
>
> Eventually, in the future…down the line…maybe the algorithm
> evolves…where we could choose the above two configurations for any
> room from the admin àconfiguration.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Hemant K. Sabat
>
> www.Coscend.com <http://www.coscend.com/>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…*
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted
> at:http://www.Coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html
> <http://www.coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html>
>
> *From:*R. Scholz [mailto:rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:11 AM
> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
>
> Hello,
>
> I can't believe that no other is interesting in my suggestion with
> sort and align the video-pictures.
> I would be very happy if anybody write something to this topic.
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 16.01.2020 um 10:35 schrieb René Scholz:
>
> Hello Maxim,
>
> your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
>
> For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I think for
> further using the one (or more) moderator(s)
> should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind them -
> in a random order its ok.
> In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short while
> equivalent to a conversation in a group where
> I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green mic-bar in
> the video when somebody speak.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows
> same sized (regardless selected picture size)
>
> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>
> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting
> bottom-left corner might work
>
> As sum up:
>
> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
>
> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
>
> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top
> starting bottom left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
>
> 4) is sorting required?
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz
> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to
> show them the "OM-manager-conference room".
> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM
> with coturn behind a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
> Short word: GREAT!
>
> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every
> device (PC, Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random
> order, place and size.
> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures
> orders again- and the size reset and I can not see the
> Whiteboard.
>
> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need
> (and want) for the type "conference-room".
>
> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and
> whatever I need for this at the moment is not nearly
> enough to implement this.
> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running
> OM-M4, but...)
>
> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>
> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
> - places this videos at the bottom
>
> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can
> see the whiteboard and I can see the members.
> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe
> its a possibility to limit this funtion to this.
> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic.
> A keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>
> What do you mean?
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam
> arrangement. Not implemented the alt - z idea yet
> so if you have more than 4 students you will need to
> scroll.
>
> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>
> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> If there is a lot of conversation between
> different people then maybe this room would
> need a different set up.
>
> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination
> (alt - z) pressed by a speaker would bring a
> speaker to position 2.
>
> Is this not how a conference call would work
> with several people on the line. You would need
> to press a button to speak ?
>
> I can think of more ways to do this but the
> programming tasks mount.
>
> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and
> bottom the videos seems to be a very good
> solution for me.
>
> I think a communication-room all members have
> video and microphone switch on - maybe a
> discussion between all members.
> What order do you make there?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> I think there is a way to accommodate the
> need to have more than 4 students.
> We can do it already but the webcams
> require scrolling to the right of the
> lower third.
>
> So I think a way around this is to
> stream the Active Speaker into a
> position next to the admin. To put it
> another way, divert the student's
> webcam to position 2.
>
> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> Yeah it looks great but would need
> the WB
>
> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> it looks good.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb
> Peter Dähn:
>
> Hi,
>
> so the "hack" looks like...
>
>
>
> Interview room as known
> (without wb), and the big
> videopod is missing. We made a
> test with 16 videos. This
> generates a kind of "video-wall".
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb
> Stefan Kühl:
>
> Hey @all,
>
> Maxim is right, we discuss
> this on multiple times
> (also concerning to the
> "open themes" i think).
> I would really appreciate
> if this would work. But we
> have up to 8 users and 1
> admin. Video size is
> unimportant for me. Most
> of them are a little bit
> shady ;-)
>
> Maybe we can improve
> Daniels source code to
> evaluate an optional
> solution?!
>
> Greetz
>
> Stefan
>
> Am 03.01.2020 18:32,
> schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Rene,
>
> I'm afraid the
> feature can't be
> included as-is :(
>
> It was discussed some
> time ago
>
> We can't
> guarantee there will
> be "no more than 4
> students and webcam
> size is fixed"
>
> I'm open to your ideas
> how room space can be
> enhanced :)
>
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at
> 00:00, R. Scholz
> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> its good to see
> that anyone else
> need such a
> feature like me.
> I will be very
> happy if you can
> open your source.
>
> Maybe its a
> fetaure Maxim will
> include?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um
> 14:55 schrieb
> Daniel Baker:
>
> Also been
> working on
> this so
> the cameras
> always load
> in a " lower
> third". Admin
> always to the
> far left and
> students to
> the right. We
> don't plan on
> having more
> than 4
> students and
> webcam size is
> fixed. Seems
> to be stable
> now so I'll
> open source
> the code soon.
>
> On 1/3/2020
> 10:27 AM,
> Peter Dähn wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I made a
> little
> change to
> the
> interview
> room. This
> "hack"
> removes
> the big
> video-pod
> in the
> interview
> room if
> the room
> name
> contains a
> "→". All
> other
> video pods
> will be
> placed
> automatically
> in equal size.
>
> Use this
> function
> on linux,
> before build:
>
> sed -i.bak
> -e
> 's/_inited
> =
> true;/_inited
> =
> true;name=$(".room.name
> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
> !=
> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>
> Greetings
> Peter
>
> Am
> 02.01.20
> um 16:38
> schrieb R.
> Scholz:
>
> Hello
> Maxim,
>
> Boah:
> Cool!
> I'm
> deepest
> impressed.
>
> Best
> regards,
>
> René
>
> Am
> 02.01.2020
> um
> 15:17
> schrieb
> Maxim
> Solodovnik:
>
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>
> video.arrange.keycode
> ?
>
> On
> Thu,
> 2
> Jan
> 2020
> at
> 20:25,
> René
> Scholz
> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday
> I
> had
> made
> a
> conference-room
> for
> 4
> users.
>
> When
> they
> login
> I
> want
> that
> the
> camera
> (all
> Notebooks,
> Windows
> 10)
>
> switch
> on
> and
> that
> the
> pictures
> automatically
> arrange.
> I
> know
> its
> a
> problem
> for
> the
> first
> user
> (only
> one
> video),
> the
> 2nd
> (two
>
> videos-pcitures)
> and
> so
> on.
>
> Idea:
> Is
> it
> possible
> to
> make
> a
> button
> that
> can
> arrange
> all
> avaiable
>
> video-screens
> on
> the
> avaiable
> place
> on
> the
> monitor?
> Or
> have
> anybody
> another
> idea?
> (Similar
> to
> the
> function
> from
> Windows
> to
> arrange
> all
> windows.)
>
> With
> best
> regards,
>
> René
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim
> aka
> solomax
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
Good idea Hemat.
Dan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:10 PM Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com> wrote:
> Dear Community,
>
>
>
> For piloting, perhaps we could have:
>
>
>
> · one room with sorting of video pods –where only a few
> participants attend.
> Use cases - hospitals: Patients with two or more doctors consulting
>
>
>
> · other rooms without sorting – where the participants are many.
> Use cases - hospitals: Training interns and residents in 10 hospital
> locations.
>
>
>
> Universities – teaching students or collaboration among students.
>
>
>
> Corporate - Administrative meetings between managers at 10-15 locations.
>
>
>
> Eventually, in the future…down the line…maybe the algorithm evolves…where
> we could choose the above two configurations for any room from the admin à
> configuration.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Hemant K. Sabat
>
> www.Coscend.com <http://www.coscend.com/>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…*
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
> http://www.Coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html
> <http://www.coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* R. Scholz [mailto:rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:11 AM
> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I can't believe that no other is interesting in my suggestion with sort
> and align the video-pictures.
> I would be very happy if anybody write something to this topic.
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 16.01.2020 um 10:35 schrieb René Scholz:
>
> Hello Maxim,
>
> your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
>
> For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I think for further
> using the one (or more) moderator(s)
> should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind them - in a
> random order its ok.
> In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short while equivalent
> to a conversation in a group where
> I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green mic-bar in the
> video when somebody speak.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
>
>
> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows same sized
> (regardless selected picture size)
>
> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>
>
>
> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting bottom-left
> corner might work
>
> As sum up:
>
> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
>
> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
>
> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top starting bottom
> left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
>
> 4) is sorting required?
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them the
> "OM-manager-conference room".
> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with coturn behind
> a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
> Short word: GREAT!
>
> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device (PC,
> Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place and size.
> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders again-
> and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
>
> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and want) for
> the type "conference-room".
>
> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I need for
> this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
>
> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>
> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
> - places this videos at the bottom
>
> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the whiteboard
> and I can see the members.
> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a possibility
> to limit this funtion to this.
> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A
> keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>
> What do you mean?
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement. Not
> implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4 students
> you will need to scroll.
>
> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> If there is a lot of conversation between different people then maybe
> this room would need a different set up.
>
>
>
> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by a
> speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>
> Is this not how a conference call would work with several people on
> the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>
> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be a
> very good solution for me.
>
> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone switch
> on - maybe a discussion between all members.
> What order do you make there?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4
> students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the
> right of the lower third.
>
> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into
> a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the
> student's webcam to position 2.
>
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>
> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> it looks good.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>
> Hi,
>
> so the "hack" looks like...
>
>
>
> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing. We
> made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>
> Hey @all,
>
> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to the
> "open themes" i think).
> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users
> and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little
> bit shady ;-)
>
> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional solution?!
>
> Greetz
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Rene,
>
>
>
> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>
> It was discussed some time ago
>
> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam
> size is fixed"
>
>
>
> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>
>
>
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>
> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a " lower
> third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right. We
> don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>
>
>
> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the big
> video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All other
> video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>
> Use this function on linux, before build:
>
> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>
> Hello Maxim,
>
> Boah: Cool!
> I'm deepest impressed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>
>
>
> video.arrange.keycode ?
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <
> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>
> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>
> Idea:
> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
> Or have anybody another idea?
> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "Coscend@OM" <OM...@Coscend.com>.
Dear Community,
For piloting, perhaps we could have:
· one room with sorting of video pods –where only a few participants attend.
Use cases - hospitals: Patients with two or more doctors consulting
· other rooms without sorting – where the participants are many.
Use cases - hospitals: Training interns and residents in 10 hospital locations.
Universities – teaching students or collaboration among students.
Corporate - Administrative meetings between managers at 10-15 locations.
Eventually, in the future…down the line…maybe the algorithm evolves…where we could choose the above two configurations for any room from the admin à configuration.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Hemant K. Sabat
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From: R. Scholz [mailto:rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:11 AM
To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Hello,
I can't believe that no other is interesting in my suggestion with sort and align the video-pictures.
I would be very happy if anybody write something to this topic.
With best regards,
René
Am 16.01.2020 um 10:35 schrieb René Scholz:
Hello Maxim,
your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I think for further using the one (or more) moderator(s)
should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind them - in a random order its ok.
In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short while equivalent to a conversation in a group where
I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green mic-bar in the video when somebody speak.
Best regards,
René
Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Daniel,
There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows same sized (regardless selected picture size)
I'm not sure how good is this :(
Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting bottom-left corner might work
As sum up:
1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top starting bottom left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
4) is sorting required?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de> > wrote:
Hello,
yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them the "OM-manager-conference room".
Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with coturn behind a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
Short word: GREAT!
But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device (PC, Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place and size.
When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders again- and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
So today I had a look in Daniels github.
His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and want) for the type "conference-room".
I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I need for this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
(I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
- unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
- places this videos at the bottom
Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the whiteboard and I can see the members.
(In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a possibility to limit this funtion to this.
In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
What do you mean?
With best regards,
René
Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement. Not implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4 students you will need to scroll.
https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
If there is a lot of conversation between different people then maybe this room would need a different set up.
For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by a speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
Is this not how a conference call would work with several people on the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
Hello Daniel,
hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be a very good solution for me.
I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
What order do you make there?
Best regards,
René
Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the right of the lower third.
So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the student's webcam to position 2.
On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
Hello Peter,
it looks good.
Best regards,
René
Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
Hi,
so the "hack" looks like...
Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
Greetings Peter
Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
Hey @all,
Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to the "open themes" i think).
I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little bit shady ;-)
Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional solution?!
Greetz
Stefan
Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Rene,
I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
It was discussed some time ago
We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed"
I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de> > wrote:
Hello Daniel,
its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
I will be very happy if you can open your source.
Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
Best regards,
René
Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right. We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
Hi there,
I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All other video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
Use this function on linux, before build:
sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name <http://room.name> ").text();if(name.indexOf("→") != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g' /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
Greetings Peter
Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
Hello Maxim,
Boah: Cool!
I'm deepest impressed.
Best regards,
René
Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
video.arrange.keycode ?
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de> > wrote:
Hello,
yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
videos-pcitures) and so on.
Idea:
Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
Or have anybody another idea?
(Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
With best regards,
René
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
--
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Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello,
I can't believe that no other is interesting in my suggestion with sort
and align the video-pictures.
I would be very happy if anybody write something to this topic.
With best regards,
René
Am 16.01.2020 um 10:35 schrieb René Scholz:
> Hello Maxim,
>
> your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
>
> For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I think for
> further using the one (or more) moderator(s)
> should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind them - in a
> random order its ok.
> In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short while
> equivalent to a conversation in a group where
> I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green mic-bar in the
> video when somebody speak.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows same
>> sized (regardless selected picture size)
>> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>>
>> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting
>> bottom-left corner might work
>> As sum up:
>> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
>> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
>> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top starting
>> bottom left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
>> 4) is sorting required?
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz
>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them
>> the "OM-manager-conference room".
>> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with
>> coturn behind a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
>> Short word: GREAT!
>>
>> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device
>> (PC, Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place
>> and size.
>> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders
>> again- and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
>>
>> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
>> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and
>> want) for the type "conference-room".
>>
>> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I
>> need for this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
>> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
>>
>> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>>
>> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
>> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
>> - places this videos at the bottom
>>
>> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the
>> whiteboard and I can see the members.
>> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a
>> possibility to limit this funtion to this.
>> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A
>> keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>>
>> What do you mean?
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam
>>> arrangement. Not implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you
>>> have more than 4 students you will need to scroll.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If there is a lot of conversation between different people
>>>> then maybe this room would need a different set up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z)
>>>> pressed by a speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>>>>
>>>> Is this not how a conference call would work with several
>>>> people on the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>>>>
>>>> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming
>>>> tasks mount.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos
>>>>> seems to be a very good solution for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a communication-room all members have video and
>>>>> microphone switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
>>>>> What order do you make there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> René
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have
>>>>>> more than 4 students. We can do it already but the
>>>>>> webcams require scrolling to the right of the lower third.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active
>>>>>> Speaker into a position next to the admin. To put it
>>>>>> another way, divert the student's webcam to position 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it looks good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod
>>>>>>>>> is missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates
>>>>>>>>> a kind of "video-wall".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also
>>>>>>>>>> concerning to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have
>>>>>>>>>> up to 8 users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for
>>>>>>>>>> me. Most of them are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an
>>>>>>>>>> optional solution?!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4
>>>>>>>>>>> students and webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature
>>>>>>>>>>> like me.
>>>>>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always
>>>>>>>>>>>> load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far
>>>>>>>>>>>> left and students to the right. We don't plan on
>>>>>>>>>>>> having more than 4 students and webcam size is
>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll open
>>>>>>>>>>>> source the code soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hack" removes the big video-pod in the interview
>>>>>>>>>>>>> room if the room name contains a "→". All other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
>>>>>>>>>>>>> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (only one video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrange all avaiable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitor?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrange all windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by René Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Maxim,
your summary looks nice and will be a good solution.
For my actual problem is a sorting not necessary. But I think for
further using the one (or more) moderator(s)
should be at the first place(s), the "normal ones" behind them - in a
random order its ok.
In my opinion I can match the speaking-user after a short while
equivalent to a conversation in a group where
I can match the one who speak too. Also I see the green mic-bar in the
video when somebody speak.
Best regards,
René
Am 15.01.2020 um 09:49 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows same
> sized (regardless selected picture size)
> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>
> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting bottom-left
> corner might work
> As sum up:
> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top starting
> bottom left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
> 4) is sorting required?
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz
> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them
> the "OM-manager-conference room".
> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with coturn
> behind a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
> Short word: GREAT!
>
> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device
> (PC, Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place
> and size.
> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders
> again- and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
>
> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and
> want) for the type "conference-room".
>
> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I
> need for this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
>
> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>
> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
> - places this videos at the bottom
>
> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the
> whiteboard and I can see the members.
> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a
> possibility to limit this funtion to this.
> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A
> keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>
> What do you mean?
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>
> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam
>> arrangement. Not implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you
>> have more than 4 students you will need to scroll.
>>
>> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>
>>> If there is a lot of conversation between different people
>>> then maybe this room would need a different set up.
>>>
>>>
>>> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z)
>>> pressed by a speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>>>
>>> Is this not how a conference call would work with several
>>> people on the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>>>
>>> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks
>>> mount.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos
>>>> seems to be a very good solution for me.
>>>>
>>>> I think a communication-room all members have video and
>>>> microphone switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
>>>> What order do you make there?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have
>>>>> more than 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams
>>>>> require scrolling to the right of the lower third.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active
>>>>> Speaker into a position next to the admin. To put it
>>>>> another way, divert the student's webcam to position 2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it looks good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod
>>>>>>>> is missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a
>>>>>>>> kind of "video-wall".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also
>>>>>>>>> concerning to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have
>>>>>>>>> up to 8 users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for
>>>>>>>>> me. Most of them are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an
>>>>>>>>> optional solution?!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4
>>>>>>>>>> students and webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature
>>>>>>>>>> like me.
>>>>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always
>>>>>>>>>>> load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far
>>>>>>>>>>> left and students to the right. We don't plan on
>>>>>>>>>>> having more than 4 students and webcam size is
>>>>>>>>>>> fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll open
>>>>>>>>>>> source the code soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This
>>>>>>>>>>>> "hack" removes the big video-pod in the interview
>>>>>>>>>>>> room if the room name contains a "→". All other
>>>>>>>>>>>> video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrange.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrange all avaiable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitor?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrange all windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Sorry Rene
/Hello Daniel/Hello Rene/
sorry about that :((
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 15:49, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows same sized
> (regardless selected picture size)
> I'm not sure how good is this :(
>
> Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting bottom-left
> corner might work
> As sum up:
> 1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
> 2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
> 3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top starting bottom
> left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
> 4) is sorting required?
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them the
>> "OM-manager-conference room".
>> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with coturn behind
>> a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
>> Short word: GREAT!
>>
>> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device (PC,
>> Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place and size.
>> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders again-
>> and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
>>
>> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
>> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and want) for
>> the type "conference-room".
>>
>> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I need
>> for this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
>> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
>>
>> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>>
>> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
>> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
>> - places this videos at the bottom
>>
>> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the
>> whiteboard and I can see the members.
>> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a possibility
>> to limit this funtion to this.
>> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A
>> keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>>
>> What do you mean?
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement. Not
>> implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4 students
>> you will need to scroll.
>>
>> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> If there is a lot of conversation between different people then
>> maybe this room would need a different set up.
>>
>>
>> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by a
>> speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>>
>> Is this not how a conference call would work with several people on
>> the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>>
>> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be a
>> very good solution for me.
>>
>> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone switch
>> on - maybe a discussion between all members.
>> What order do you make there?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4
>> students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the
>> right of the lower third.
>>
>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into
>> a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the
>> student's webcam to position 2.
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> it looks good.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>
>>
>>
>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing. We
>> made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>
>> Hey @all,
>>
>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to the
>> "open themes" i think).
>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users
>> and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little
>> bit shady ;-)
>>
>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>> solution?!
>>
>> Greetz
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Rene,
>>
>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>> It was discussed some time ago
>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam
>> size is fixed"
>>
>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>
>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a "
>>> lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right.
>>> We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
>>> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the
>>> big video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All
>>> other video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>>
>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>
>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
>>> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> Boah: Cool!
>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>
>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <
>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>
>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Idea:
>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Daniel,
There was suggestion from Peter to display all video windows same sized
(regardless selected picture size)
I'm not sure how good is this :(
Shortcut to make windows same size and align them starting bottom-left
corner might work
As sum up:
1) there will be separate shortcut (for ex. Ctrl+Shift+A)
2) it will change the size of all video pods to be 120x90 (?)
3) it will align video pods left-to-right, bottom-to-top starting bottom
left corner (of OM tab? of WB area?)
4) is sorting required?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 14:55, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them the
> "OM-manager-conference room".
> Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with coturn behind
> a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
> Short word: GREAT!
>
> But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device (PC,
> Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place and size.
> When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders again-
> and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
>
> So today I had a look in Daniels github.
> His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and want) for
> the type "conference-room".
>
> I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I need for
> this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
> (I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
>
> Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
>
> My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
> - unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
> - places this videos at the bottom
>
> Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the whiteboard
> and I can see the members.
> (In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a possibility
> to limit this funtion to this.
> In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A
> keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
>
> What do you mean?
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>
> Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement. Not
> implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4 students
> you will need to scroll.
>
> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>
>
>
> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> If there is a lot of conversation between different people then maybe
> this room would need a different set up.
>
>
> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by a
> speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>
> Is this not how a conference call would work with several people on
> the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>
> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be a
> very good solution for me.
>
> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone switch
> on - maybe a discussion between all members.
> What order do you make there?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4
> students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the
> right of the lower third.
>
> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into
> a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the
> student's webcam to position 2.
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> it looks good.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>
> Hi,
>
> so the "hack" looks like...
>
>
>
> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing. We
> made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>
> Hey @all,
>
> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to the
> "open themes" i think).
> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users
> and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little
> bit shady ;-)
>
> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional solution?!
>
> Greetz
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Rene,
>
> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
> It was discussed some time ago
> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam
> size is fixed"
>
> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>
>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a "
>> lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right.
>> We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
>> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the big
>> video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All other
>> video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>
>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>
>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
>> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> Boah: Cool!
>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>
>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <
>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>
>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>
>>> Idea:
>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello,
yesterday I had made a presentation for my managers to show them the
"OM-manager-conference room".
Beforehand: the technical things running wonderful. OM with coturn
behind a NAT, latency mic/video ca. 1/2sec.
Short word: GREAT!
But the video-pictures are awful for this case. On every device (PC,
Notebook, Tablet) the pictures start in random order, place and size.
When I press later F5 to refresh the browser the pictures orders again-
and the size reset and I can not see the Whiteboard.
So today I had a look in Daniels github.
His screenshot looks great - that is exactly what I need (and want) for
the type "conference-room".
I'm afraid that my humble knowledge in Java, Maven and whatever I need
for this at the moment is not nearly enough to implement this.
(I hoped that I only change a few files in my running OM-M4, but...)
Is it possible to implement such a functionality in OM?
My wish is that I have a Keyboard-Shortcut that
- unify the size (so that all videos have the same size)
- places this videos at the bottom
Short: The screenshot from Daniel is what I want. I can see the
whiteboard and I can see the members.
(In my case I have limited the max. members to 6. Maybe its a
possibility to limit this funtion to this.
In my opinion Its not necessary to implement an automatic. A
keyboard-shortcut is enough.)
What do you mean?
With best regards,
René
Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement.
> Not implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4
> students you will need to scroll.
>
> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>
>
>
> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> If there is a lot of conversation between different people then
>> maybe this room would need a different set up.
>>
>>
>> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by
>> a speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>>
>> Is this not how a conference call would work with several people
>> on the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>>
>> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to
>>> be a very good solution for me.
>>>
>>> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone
>>> switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
>>> What order do you make there?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>
>>>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than
>>>> 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams require
>>>> scrolling to the right of the lower third.
>>>>
>>>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker
>>>> into a position next to the admin. To put it another way,
>>>> divert the student's webcam to position 2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it looks good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> René
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>>>>>>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of
>>>>>>> "video-wall".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also
>>>>>>>> concerning to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to
>>>>>>>> 8 users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of
>>>>>>>> them are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an
>>>>>>>> optional solution?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students
>>>>>>>>> and webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always
>>>>>>>>>> load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left
>>>>>>>>>> and students to the right. We don't plan on having
>>>>>>>>>> more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed. Seems
>>>>>>>>>> to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This
>>>>>>>>>>> "hack" removes the big video-pod in the interview room
>>>>>>>>>>> if the room name contains a "→". All other video pods
>>>>>>>>>>> will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all avaiable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Daniel,
great. I will have a look.
Thank you very much.
Best regrads,
René
Am 07.01.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement.
> Not implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4
> students you will need to scroll.
>
> https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
>
>
>
> On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> If there is a lot of conversation between different people then
>> maybe this room would need a different set up.
>>
>>
>> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by
>> a speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>>
>> Is this not how a conference call would work with several people
>> on the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>>
>> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to
>>> be a very good solution for me.
>>>
>>> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone
>>> switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
>>> What order do you make there?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>
>>>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than
>>>> 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams require
>>>> scrolling to the right of the lower third.
>>>>
>>>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker
>>>> into a position next to the admin. To put it another way,
>>>> divert the student's webcam to position 2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it looks good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> René
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>>>>>>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of
>>>>>>> "video-wall".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also
>>>>>>>> concerning to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to
>>>>>>>> 8 users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of
>>>>>>>> them are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an
>>>>>>>> optional solution?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students
>>>>>>>>> and webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always
>>>>>>>>>> load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left
>>>>>>>>>> and students to the right. We don't plan on having
>>>>>>>>>> more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed. Seems
>>>>>>>>>> to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This
>>>>>>>>>>> "hack" removes the big video-pod in the interview room
>>>>>>>>>>> if the room name contains a "→". All other video pods
>>>>>>>>>>> will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all avaiable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Here is the code for the lower third and web cam arrangement. Not
implemented the alt - z idea yet so if you have more than 4
students you will need to scroll.
https://github.com/collisiondetection/openmeetings
On 1/5/2020 5:21 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> If there is a lot of conversation between different people then
> maybe this room would need a different set up.
>
>
> For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by
> a speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
>
> Is this not how a conference call would work with several people
> on the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
>
> I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to
>> be a very good solution for me.
>>
>> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone
>> switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
>> What order do you make there?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than
>>> 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams require
>>> scrolling to the right of the lower third.
>>>
>>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker
>>> into a position next to the admin. To put it another way,
>>> divert the student's webcam to position 2.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> it looks good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> René
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>>>>>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of
>>>>>> "video-wall".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also
>>>>>>> concerning to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to
>>>>>>> 8 users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of
>>>>>>> them are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>>>>>>> solution?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and
>>>>>>>> webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always
>>>>>>>>> load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left
>>>>>>>>> and students to the right. We don't plan on having more
>>>>>>>>> than 4 students and webcam size is fixed. Seems to
>>>>>>>>> be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack"
>>>>>>>>>> removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the
>>>>>>>>>> room name contains a "→". All other video pods will be
>>>>>>>>>> placed automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange
>>>>>>>>>>>> all avaiable
>>>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange
>>>>>>>>>>>> all windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
If there is a lot of conversation between different people then maybe
this room would need a different set up.
For simplicity sake maybe a key combination (alt - z) pressed by a
speaker would bring a speaker to position 2.
Is this not how a conference call would work with several people on
the line. You would need to press a button to speak ?
I can think of more ways to do this but the programming tasks mount.
On 1/4/2020 7:11 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to
> be a very good solution for me.
>
> I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone
> switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
> What order do you make there?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>
>> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than
>> 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling
>> to the right of the lower third.
>>
>> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker
>> into a position next to the admin. To put it another way,
>> divert the student's webcam to position 2.
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>
>>>> it looks good.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>>>>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of
>>>>> "video-wall".
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also
>>>>>> concerning to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8
>>>>>> users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them
>>>>>> are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>>>>>> solution?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and
>>>>>>> webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load
>>>>>>>> in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and
>>>>>>>> students to the right. We don't plan on having more than
>>>>>>>> 4 students and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be
>>>>>>>> stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack"
>>>>>>>>> removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the
>>>>>>>>> room name contains a "→". All other video pods will be
>>>>>>>>> placed automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all
>>>>>>>>>>> avaiable
>>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all
>>>>>>>>>>> windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Daniel,
hm, your idea in the top-place the WB and bottom the videos seems to be
a very good solution for me.
I think a communication-room all members have video and microphone
switch on - maybe a discussion between all members.
What order do you make there?
Best regards,
René
Am 04.01.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than
> 4 students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling
> to the right of the lower third.
>
> So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker
> into a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert
> the student's webcam to position 2.
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>
>> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>>
>> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>> it looks good.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>>>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of
>>>> "video-wall".
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning
>>>>> to the "open themes" i think).
>>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8
>>>>> users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them
>>>>> are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>>>>> solution?!
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetz
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and
>>>>>> webcam size is fixed"
>>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> René
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load
>>>>>>> in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and
>>>>>>> students to the right. We don't plan on having more than
>>>>>>> 4 students and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be stable
>>>>>>> now so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack"
>>>>>>>> removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the room
>>>>>>>> name contains a "→". All other video pods will be placed
>>>>>>>> automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all
>>>>>>>>>> Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all
>>>>>>>>>> avaiable
>>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all
>>>>>>>>>> windows.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
I think there is a way to accommodate the need to have more than 4
students. We can do it already but the webcams require scrolling to the
right of the lower third.
So I think a way around this is to stream the Active Speaker into
a position next to the admin. To put it another way, divert the
student's webcam to position 2.
On 1/4/2020 1:41 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>
> Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
>
> On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> it looks good.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of
>>> "video-wall".
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>>
>>>> Hey @all,
>>>>
>>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning
>>>> to the "open themes" i think).
>>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8
>>>> users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them
>>>> are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>>>> solution?!
>>>>
>>>> Greetz
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and
>>>>> webcam size is fixed"
>>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> René
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load
>>>>>> in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and
>>>>>> students to the right. We don't plan on having more than 4
>>>>>> students and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be stable now
>>>>>> so I'll open source the code soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack"
>>>>>>> removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the room
>>>>>>> name contains a "→". All other video pods will be placed
>>>>>>> automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks,
>>>>>>>>> Windows 10)
>>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all
>>>>>>>>> avaiable
>>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all
>>>>>>>>> windows.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Yeah it looks great but would need the WB
On 1/4/2020 12:43 PM, R. Scholz wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> it looks good.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>> Hi,
>>
>> so the "hack" looks like...
>>
>>
>>
>> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is
>> missing. We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of
>> "video-wall".
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>>
>>> Hey @all,
>>>
>>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning
>>> to the "open themes" i think).
>>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8
>>> users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them
>>> are a little bit shady ;-)
>>>
>>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>>> solution?!
>>>
>>> Greetz
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and
>>>> webcam size is fixed"
>>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>>
>>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in
>>>>> a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and students
>>>>> to the right. We don't plan on having more than 4 students
>>>>> and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll
>>>>> open source the code soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack"
>>>>>> removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the room
>>>>>> name contains a "→". All other video pods will be placed
>>>>>> automatically in equal size.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks,
>>>>>>>> Windows 10)
>>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all
>>>>>>>> avaiable
>>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all
>>>>>>>> windows.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Peter,
it looks good.
Best regards,
René
Am 03.01.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Peter Dähn:
> Hi,
>
> so the "hack" looks like...
>
>
>
> Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing.
> We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>>
>> Hey @all,
>>
>> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to
>> the "open themes" i think).
>> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8
>> users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are
>> a little bit shady ;-)
>>
>> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
>> solution?!
>>
>> Greetz
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>>> Hello Rene,
>>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>>> It was discussed some time ago
>>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and
>>> webcam size is fixed"
>>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>>
>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>>
>>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>>
>>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in
>>>> a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and students
>>>> to the right. We don't plan on having more than 4 students
>>>> and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll
>>>> open source the code soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack"
>>>>> removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the room
>>>>> name contains a "→". All other video pods will be placed
>>>>> automatically in equal size.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>>
>>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> René
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks,
>>>>>>> Windows 10)
>>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one
>>>>>>> video), the 2nd (two
>>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all
>>>>>>> avaiable
>>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all
>>>>>>> windows.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi,
so the "hack" looks like...
Interview room as known (without wb), and the big videopod is missing.
We made a test with 16 videos. This generates a kind of "video-wall".
Greetings Peter
Am 03.01.20 um 18:39 schrieb Stefan Kühl:
>
> Hey @all,
>
> Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to
> the "open themes" i think).
> I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8
> users and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are
> a little bit shady ;-)
>
> Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
> solution?!
>
> Greetz
>
> Stefan
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>> Hello Rene,
>> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
>> It was discussed some time ago
>> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam
>> size is fixed"
>> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz
>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
>> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>>
>> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>>>
>>> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in
>>> a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and students
>>> to the right. We don't plan on having more than 4 students
>>> and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll
>>> open source the code soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack"
>>>> removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the room
>>>> name contains a "→". All other video pods will be placed
>>>> automatically in equal size.
>>>>
>>>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>>>
>>>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>>>> true;name=$(".room.name
>>>> <http://room.name>").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>>>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>>>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Boah: Cool!
>>>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> René
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks,
>>>>>> Windows 10)
>>>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video),
>>>>>> the 2nd (two
>>>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all
>>>>>> avaiable
>>>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all
>>>>>> windows.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> René
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Stefan Kühl <st...@quatrekuehl.eu>.
Hey @all,
Maxim is right, we discuss this on multiple times (also concerning to
the "open themes" i think).
I would really appreciate if this would work. But we have up to 8 users
and 1 admin. Video size is unimportant for me. Most of them are a little
bit shady ;-)
Maybe we can improve Daniels source code to evaluate an optional
solution?!
Greetz
Stefan
Am 03.01.2020 18:32, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Rene,
>
> I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
> It was discussed some time ago
> We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed"
>
> I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
>
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>
> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a " lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right. We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>
> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote: Hi there,
>
> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the big video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All other video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>
> Use this function on linux, before build:
>
> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name [1]").text();if(name.indexOf("→") != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g' /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz: Hello Maxim,
>
> Boah: Cool!
> I'm deepest impressed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>
> video.arrange.keycode ?
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote: Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>
> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>
> Idea:
> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
> Or have anybody another idea?
> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Links:
------
[1] http://room.name
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Rene,
I'm afraid the feature can't be included as-is :(
It was discussed some time ago
We can't guarantee there will be "no more than 4 students and webcam size
is fixed"
I'm open to your ideas how room space can be enhanced :)
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:00, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
> I will be very happy if you can open your source.
>
> Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a " lower
> third". Admin always to the far left and students to the right. We
> don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size is fixed.
> Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
>
>
> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the big
> video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All other
> video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>
> Use this function on linux, before build:
>
> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited = true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→")
> != -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>
> Hello Maxim,
>
> Boah: Cool!
> I'm deepest impressed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>
> video.arrange.keycode ?
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <
> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>
>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>
>> Idea:
>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>> Or have anybody another idea?
>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Daniel,
its good to see that anyone else need such a feature like me.
I will be very happy if you can open your source.
Maybe its a fetaure Maxim will include?
Best regards,
René
Am 03.01.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a "
> lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the
> right. We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam
> size is fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the
> code soon.
>
>
> On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the
>> big video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→".
>> All other video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>>
>> Use this function on linux, before build:
>>
>> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
>> true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
>> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
>> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> Boah: Cool!
>>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>
>>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>>
>>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the
>>>> 2nd (two
>>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Idea:
>>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Also been working on this so the cameras always load in a "
lower third". Admin always to the far left and students to the
right. We don't plan on having more than 4 students and webcam size
is fixed. Seems to be stable now so I'll open source the code soon.
On 1/3/2020 10:27 AM, Peter Dähn wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the
> big video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→".
> All other video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
>
> Use this function on linux, before build:
>
> sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
> true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
> -1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
> /PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> Boah: Cool!
>> I'm deepest impressed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>
>>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>>
>>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the
>>> 2nd (two
>>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>>
>>> Idea:
>>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>>> Or have anybody another idea?
>>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi there,
I made a little change to the interview room. This "hack" removes the
big video-pod in the interview room if the room name contains a "→". All
other video pods will be placed automatically in equal size.
Use this function on linux, before build:
sed -i.bak -e 's/_inited = true;/_inited =
true;name=$(".room.name").text();if(name.indexOf("→") !=
-1){$(".pod-big").hide();}/g'
/PATH/TO/OM/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb/raw-interview-area.js
Greetings Peter
Am 02.01.20 um 16:38 schrieb R. Scholz:
> Hello Maxim,
>
> Boah: Cool!
> I'm deepest impressed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>
>> video.arrange.keycode ?
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>>
>> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
>> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
>> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd
>> (two
>> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>>
>> Idea:
>> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
>> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
>> Or have anybody another idea?
>> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello Maxim,
Boah: Cool!
I'm deepest impressed.
Best regards,
René
Am 02.01.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>
> video.arrange.keycode ?
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz
> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>
> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd
> (two
> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>
> Idea:
> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
> Or have anybody another idea?
> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: arrange automatically video-pictures
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
video.arrange.keycode ?
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:25, René Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had made a conference-room for 4 users.
>
> When they login I want that the camera (all Notebooks, Windows 10)
> switch on and that the pictures automatically arrange.
> I know its a problem for the first user (only one video), the 2nd (two
> videos-pcitures) and so on.
>
> Idea:
> Is it possible to make a button that can arrange all avaiable
> video-screens on the avaiable place on the monitor?
> Or have anybody another idea?
> (Similar to the function from Windows to arrange all windows.)
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax