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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com> on 2006/06/05 12:14:40 UTC
[offlist] Re: [classlib] logging from within our implementation
Talk to George, he's a world expert on Aspects
(and co-author of a book on the subject)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321245873/qid=1149502393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7435876-8007311?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should start thinking more with that in mind and think about
>> scratching our own itches in terms of development... we might find some
>> serious innovation on the way to there.
>>
>
> I think the disagreement boils down to defining the "itch". I'm not
> interested in the overhead because while we will own the VM for our
> distro, it's still overhead and additionally, we want others w/ VMs to
> use our classlibrary too (like Sun, BEA, IBM, Apple... )
>
> I'm going to dork around w/ aspects to see if we can make the addition
> of debugging a pre-processing step used by people that want to debug...
>
> geir
>
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Re: [offlist] Re: [classlib] logging from within our implementation
Posted by Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>.
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 11:17:50AM +0100, Tim Ellison wrote:
> [Eek! ok so you can see that wasn't intended to go onto the list]
FWIW and IMVHO, this kind of thing is entirely appropriate on-list :-)
> Apologies for embarrassing George (... but buy the book anyway<g>)
I just might!
> Tim Ellison wrote:
> > Talk to George, he's a world expert on Aspects
> >
> > (and co-author of a book on the subject)
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321245873/qid=1149502393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7435876-8007311?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> >>
> >>> Maybe we should start thinking more with that in mind and think about
> >>> scratching our own itches in terms of development... we might find some
> >>> serious innovation on the way to there.
> >>>
> >> I think the disagreement boils down to defining the "itch". I'm not
> >> interested in the overhead because while we will own the VM for our
> >> distro, it's still overhead and additionally, we want others w/ VMs to
> >> use our classlibrary too (like Sun, BEA, IBM, Apple... )
> >>
> >> I'm going to dork around w/ aspects to see if we can make the addition
> >> of debugging a pre-processing step used by people that want to debug...
> >>
> >> geir
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Re: [offlist] Re: [classlib] logging from within our implementation
Posted by Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>.
[Eek! ok so you can see that wasn't intended to go onto the list]
Apologies for embarrassing George (... but buy the book anyway<g>)
Tim
Tim Ellison wrote:
> Talk to George, he's a world expert on Aspects
>
> (and co-author of a book on the subject)
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321245873/qid=1149502393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7435876-8007311?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe we should start thinking more with that in mind and think about
>>> scratching our own itches in terms of development... we might find some
>>> serious innovation on the way to there.
>>>
>> I think the disagreement boils down to defining the "itch". I'm not
>> interested in the overhead because while we will own the VM for our
>> distro, it's still overhead and additionally, we want others w/ VMs to
>> use our classlibrary too (like Sun, BEA, IBM, Apple... )
>>
>> I'm going to dork around w/ aspects to see if we can make the addition
>> of debugging a pre-processing step used by people that want to debug...
>>
>> geir
>>
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Re: [offlist] Re: [classlib] logging from within our implementation
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
Cool - he can tell us how it's done then :)
geir
Tim Ellison wrote:
> Talk to George, he's a world expert on Aspects
>
> (and co-author of a book on the subject)
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321245873/qid=1149502393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7435876-8007311?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe we should start thinking more with that in mind and think about
>>> scratching our own itches in terms of development... we might find some
>>> serious innovation on the way to there.
>>>
>> I think the disagreement boils down to defining the "itch". I'm not
>> interested in the overhead because while we will own the VM for our
>> distro, it's still overhead and additionally, we want others w/ VMs to
>> use our classlibrary too (like Sun, BEA, IBM, Apple... )
>>
>> I'm going to dork around w/ aspects to see if we can make the addition
>> of debugging a pre-processing step used by people that want to debug...
>>
>> geir
>>
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