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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Ted <te...@gs2admin1.e-meet.com> on 2000/01/04 00:38:01 UTC
Re: XSP Status?
I effing (as in the letter 'F') agree. Wowza! Ricardo allowed me a
confidential peek at the XSP URL. Man, THIS ROCKS! Forget the legalese!
Roll it out!!!
Ted
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > Where is XSP in terms of implementation?
>
> Layer 1: Complete. Coming _real_ soon.
> Layer 2: Under serious reconsideration. Soon public.
>
> People, let's be _very_ thankful to Ricardo and Exoffice Technologies
> for doing this!!!
>
> You'll get Cocoon 1.6 which includes the infamous XSP processor (and
> some very nice samples I wrote) in a very short time, as soon as we deal
> the legal details out.
>
> But it's here, man, it works and it's the best thing I've seen since I
> came into the web world. I know, I know, I co-designed it, but it was
> just on the whiteboard and stood there for 6 months.
>
> But now that is working, man, I wish I had something like that when
> Pier, Federico and I wrote our first intranet web-app two and a half
> years ago using servlets. What took us months, would take us a couple of
> days.
>
> My humble opinion?
>
> We are rocking this party, dudes :)
>
> --
> Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
> able to give birth to a dancing star.
> <st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Come to the first official Apache Software Foundation Conference!
> ------------------------- http://ApacheCon.Com ---------------------
RE: XSP Status?
Posted by James & Sue Ann Birchfield <js...@home.com>.
As soon as I can get the 1.6-Dev code imported into work, I
will translate the LDAP/Mail Processors into taglibs.
This XSP is sweet!!!!
=====================================
James Birchfield
Chief Technology Officer
jmbirchfield@proteus-technologies.com
http://www.proteus-technologies.com
=====================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefano@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:07 AM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: XSP Status?
>
>
> James & Sue Ann Birchfield wrote:
> >
> > I agree as well. I compiled, installed and configured
> > 1.6-Dev and played with the XSP stuff tonight. Awesome!!
> >
> > Great job guys. If only I could work more on this stuff
> > at work, I would love to pitch in more. The XSP Primer
> > is excellent as well. I can't wait to see this progress.
> >
> > Specially the xbean stuff...:)
>
> Ricardo and I agreed to remove the xbean taglib for now, to gain more
> feedback and not to tie you to something that is probably going to
> change very much in the future.
>
> The taglibs included in Cocoon 1.6-dev are to be considered
> EXPERIMENTAL, in the sense that we do not have a clue on how a taglib
> should work (nor the JSP people, BTW).
>
> We'll work parallel to the Sun folks on this area, and I would also love
> you guys to move your SQL/LDAP/Mail processors into XSP taglibs, which
> is the way this should be done.
>
> Don't worry, it will take a while for people to get the XSP idea
> alltogether, but it's going to happen. Trust me :)
>
> --
> Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
> able to give birth to a dancing star.
> <st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Come to the first official Apache Software Foundation Conference!
> ------------------------- http://ApacheCon.Com ---------------------
>
>
Re: XSP Status?
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
James & Sue Ann Birchfield wrote:
>
> I agree as well. I compiled, installed and configured
> 1.6-Dev and played with the XSP stuff tonight. Awesome!!
>
> Great job guys. If only I could work more on this stuff
> at work, I would love to pitch in more. The XSP Primer
> is excellent as well. I can't wait to see this progress.
>
> Specially the xbean stuff...:)
Ricardo and I agreed to remove the xbean taglib for now, to gain more
feedback and not to tie you to something that is probably going to
change very much in the future.
The taglibs included in Cocoon 1.6-dev are to be considered
EXPERIMENTAL, in the sense that we do not have a clue on how a taglib
should work (nor the JSP people, BTW).
We'll work parallel to the Sun folks on this area, and I would also love
you guys to move your SQL/LDAP/Mail processors into XSP taglibs, which
is the way this should be done.
Don't worry, it will take a while for people to get the XSP idea
alltogether, but it's going to happen. Trust me :)
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Come to the first official Apache Software Foundation Conference!
------------------------- http://ApacheCon.Com ---------------------
Re: XSP Status?
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
James & Sue Ann Birchfield wrote:
>
> I agree as well. I compiled, installed and configured
> 1.6-Dev and played with the XSP stuff tonight. Awesome!!
>
> Great job guys. If only I could work more on this stuff
> at work, I would love to pitch in more. The XSP Primer
> is excellent as well. I can't wait to see this progress.
>
> SpeciX-Mozilla-Status: 0009.:)
Ricardo and I agreed to remove the xbean taglib for now, to gain more
feedback and not to tie you to something that is probably going to
change very much in the future.
The taglibs included in Cocoon 1.6-dev are to be considered
EXPERIMENTAL, in the sense that we do not have a clue on how a taglib
should work (nor the JSP people, BTW).
We'll work parallel to the Sun folks on this area, and I would also love
you guys to move your SQL/LDAP/Mail processors into XSP taglibs, which
is the way this should be done.
Don't worry, it will take a while for people to get the XSP idea
alltogether, but it's going to happen. Trust me :)
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Come to the first official Apache Software Foundation Conference!
------------------------- http://ApacheCon.Com ---------------------
RE: XSP Status?
Posted by James & Sue Ann Birchfield <js...@home.com>.
I agree as well. I compiled, installed and configured
1.6-Dev and played with the XSP stuff tonight. Awesome!!
Great job guys. If only I could work more on this stuff
at work, I would love to pitch in more. The XSP Primer
is excellent as well. I can't wait to see this progress.
Specially the xbean stuff...:)
=====================================
James Birchfield
Chief Technology Officer
jmbirchfield@proteus-technologies.com
http://www.proteus-technologies.com
=====================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted [mailto:ted@gs2admin1.e-meet.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 6:38 PM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: XSP Status?
>
>
> I effing (as in the letter 'F') agree. Wowza! Ricardo allowed me a
> confidential peek at the XSP URL. Man, THIS ROCKS! Forget the legalese!
> Roll it out!!!
>
> Ted
>
> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> >
> > Ted wrote:
> > >
> > > Where is XSP in terms of implementation?
> >
> > Layer 1: Complete. Coming _real_ soon.
> > Layer 2: Under serious reconsideration. Soon public.
> >
> > People, let's be _very_ thankful to Ricardo and Exoffice Technologies
> > for doing this!!!
> >
> > You'll get Cocoon 1.6 which includes the infamous XSP processor (and
> > some very nice samples I wrote) in a very short time, as soon as we deal
> > the legal details out.
> >
> > But it's here, man, it works and it's the best thing I've seen since I
> > came into the web world. I know, I know, I co-designed it, but it was
> > just on the whiteboard and stood there for 6 months.
> >
> > But now that is working, man, I wish I had something like that when
> > Pier, Federico and I wrote our first intranet web-app two and a half
> > years ago using servlets. What took us months, would take us a couple of
> > days.
> >
> > My humble opinion?
> >
> > We are rocking this party, dudes :)
> >
> > --
> > Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
> > able to give birth to a dancing star.
> > <st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Come to the first official Apache Software Foundation Conference!
> > ------------------------- http://ApacheCon.Com ---------------------
>