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Posted to dev@jspwiki.apache.org by Dave Koelmeyer <da...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> on 2017/03/12 01:31:47 UTC
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Hi All,
So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from infra
to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the javadocs\u2014I
don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so perhaps
someone can look into this?
Cheers,
Dave
On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously the
> default JSPWiki template didn't.
> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>
> dirk
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team about this.
>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now, but I
>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>>
>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then, it's not
>> that critical.
>>
>> regards,
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodr�guez <
>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to ask infra
>> to
>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some brand
>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the Apache
>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and we would
>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a showstopper.
>>>
>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS is
>> clunkier
>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few small
>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org was/is
>> setup,
>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>>>
>>> thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> juan pablo
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org to
>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>>>>
>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodr�guez <
>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>>
>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>>> proposing,
>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something like
>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>>>>>
>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to directly
>>> point
>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>>>>>
>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently doing
>>> with
>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>> content/extpaths.txt
>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>>> jspwiki/content/
>>>> ..
>>>>>
>>>>> br,
>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js over
>>> there
>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodr�guez <
>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the site
>>>> locally
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build it
>>>>> locally,
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>> with
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>> template sitting at
>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/templates/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather than
>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and keep
>>>> pushing
>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't remember
>>> the
>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to host
>> the
>>>>> wiki,
>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual location
>>> and,
>>>> as
>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both sides),
>> we
>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ \u2013 and as can be seen it's running
>>> the
>>>>> old
>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there any
>>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>> separate
>>>>> sites,
>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>> just
>>>> sit
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but that's
>>> not a
>>>>> big
>>>>>>>> deal.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
--
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Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Dave Koelmeyer <da...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz>.
Hi Juan Pablo,
Looks brilliant—thanks for all the work setting this up!
Cheers,
Dave
On 02/07/17 06:18, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
> Hi!
>
> (retaking a rather old thread..)
>
> new website is available now, there are a couple of improvements waiting to
> be deployed, but basically it's there.
> Also, almost all the site is now running under jspwiki-wiki.apache.org
>
>
> br,
> jp
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> On 15/04/17 11:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks
>>> Dirk!
>>>
>>> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
>>> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
>>>
>>> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
>>> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
>>> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to
>>> avoid
>>> any confusion down the road.
>>>
>>> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect
>>> to
>>> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o
>>> would
>>> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
>>>
>>> sounds reasonable?
>>>
>> Sorry I dropped the ball a bit on this one—this all looks and sounds
>> great. A bit late, but can you please let me know if there's anything you
>> need a hand with at this stage?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> --
>> Dave Koelmeyer
>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>> The Document Foundation (TDF) member
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
>>>> when finished.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> jp
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
>>>> dirk.frederickx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>>>
>>>>> - left menu links:
>>>>> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the
>>>>> left-menu.
>>>>> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
>>>>> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
>>>>>
>>>>> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list
>>>>> bullets
>>>>> for the different links; like so:
>>>>>
>>>>> %%accordion
>>>>> !Users
>>>>> %%list-unstyled
>>>>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
>>>>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
>>>>> * [Wiki Syntax]
>>>>> * [Getting Started]
>>>>> * [Getting Involved]
>>>>> * [Documentation]
>>>>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
>>>>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
>>>>> * [FAQ]
>>>>> /%
>>>>> !Developpers
>>>>> ....
>>>>> /%
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - apache branding:
>>>>> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
>>>>> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
>>>>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dirk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
>>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
>>>>>> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's
>>>>>> LeftMenu
>>>>>> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
>>>>>> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
>>>>>>
>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>
>>>>>> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
>>>>>> reorganize them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
>>>>>>
>>>>> Branding
>>>>>
>>>>>> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
>>>>>> customized template be enough?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks + br,
>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board
>>>>>> report,
>>>>>> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
>>>>>>
>>>>> like to
>>>>>
>>>>>> send it the day after at most..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>> (apologies on the delayed response)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> changes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> f.ex.,
>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
>>>>>>> just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a bonus, the javadocs
>>>>>>> would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
>>>>>>> - second, make the wiki available through both
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>>> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
>>>>>>> Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> so we
>>>>>> don't have dead links
>>>>>>> (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> me). In case this combination
>>>>>>> is not feasable, keep the wiki under
>>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whatever), and place a redirect
>>>>>>> under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> "feels" as the project's home page.
>>>>>>> sounds reasonable? WDYT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
>>>>>>> doable under the current CMS. As for
>>>>>>> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yet,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shame on me :-/ In any case, please
>>>>>>> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> better than my current no-progress at it.
>>>>>>> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> git
>>>>>> repo to hold the site in there, actually
>>>>>>> it's still placed on svn..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> infra
>>>>>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
>>>>>>>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
>>>>>>>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> javadocs—I
>>>>>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
>>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>> someone can look into this?
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> default JSPWiki template didn't.
>>>>>>>>> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dirk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>>>>>>>>>> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>>>>> that critical.
>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>> infra
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> brand
>>>>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
>>>>>>>>>> showstopper.
>>>>>>>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>> clunkier
>>>>>>>>>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
>>>>>>>>>> was/is
>>>>>> setup,
>>>>>>>>>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> proposing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> content/extpaths.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki/content/
>>>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>> locally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>> locally,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template sitting at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s/
>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>> and,
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides),
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>>> sites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
--
Dave Koelmeyer
http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Jürgen Weber <ju...@jwi.de>.
Hi,
jspwiki-wiki.apache.org looks great on a computer screen.
Less so on a cell phone.
Left menu is unreadable. Top menu goes out of screen first.
Please do check with Chrome - developer options - device toolbar - iPhone 6
So, I do think next task for JSPWiki is mobile. Bring JSPWiki into the future.
What would have to change for a responsive design? Left menu should go
into a menu?
What do you think?
Greetings,
Juergen
2017-07-01 20:18 GMT+02:00 Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
<ju...@gmail.com>:
> Hi!
>
> (retaking a rather old thread..)
>
> new website is available now, there are a couple of improvements waiting to
> be deployed, but basically it's there.
> Also, almost all the site is now running under jspwiki-wiki.apache.org
>
>
> br,
> jp
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> On 15/04/17 11:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks
>>> Dirk!
>>>
>>> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
>>> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
>>>
>>> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
>>> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
>>> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to
>>> avoid
>>> any confusion down the road.
>>>
>>> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect
>>> to
>>> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o
>>> would
>>> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
>>>
>>> sounds reasonable?
>>>
>>
>> Sorry I dropped the ball a bit on this one—this all looks and sounds
>> great. A bit late, but can you please let me know if there's anything you
>> need a hand with at this stage?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> --
>> Dave Koelmeyer
>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>> The Document Foundation (TDF) member
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>>
>>>> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
>>>> when finished.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> jp
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
>>>> dirk.frederickx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - left menu links:
>>>>> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the
>>>>> left-menu.
>>>>> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
>>>>> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
>>>>>
>>>>> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list
>>>>> bullets
>>>>> for the different links; like so:
>>>>>
>>>>> %%accordion
>>>>> !Users
>>>>> %%list-unstyled
>>>>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
>>>>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
>>>>> * [Wiki Syntax]
>>>>> * [Getting Started]
>>>>> * [Getting Involved]
>>>>> * [Documentation]
>>>>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
>>>>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
>>>>> * [FAQ]
>>>>> /%
>>>>> !Developpers
>>>>> ....
>>>>> /%
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - apache branding:
>>>>> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
>>>>> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
>>>>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dirk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
>>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
>>>>>> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's
>>>>>> LeftMenu
>>>>>> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
>>>>>> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
>>>>>>
>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>
>>>>>> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
>>>>>> reorganize them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
>>>>>>
>>>>> Branding
>>>>>
>>>>>> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
>>>>>> customized template be enough?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks + br,
>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board
>>>>>> report,
>>>>>> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
>>>>>>
>>>>> like to
>>>>>
>>>>>> send it the day after at most..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (apologies on the delayed response)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> changes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> f.ex.,
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
>>>>>>> just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a bonus, the javadocs
>>>>>>> would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
>>>>>>> - second, make the wiki available through both
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
>>>>>>> Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> so we
>>>>>
>>>>>> don't have dead links
>>>>>>> (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>> me). In case this combination
>>>>>>> is not feasable, keep the wiki under
>>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whatever), and place a redirect
>>>>>>> under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>> "feels" as the project's home page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sounds reasonable? WDYT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
>>>>>>> doable under the current CMS. As for
>>>>>>> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yet,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shame on me :-/ In any case, please
>>>>>>> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>> better than my current no-progress at it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> git
>>>>>
>>>>>> repo to hold the site in there, actually
>>>>>>> it's still placed on svn..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> infra
>>>>>
>>>>>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
>>>>>>>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
>>>>>>>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> javadocs—I
>>>>>
>>>>>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>
>>>>>> someone can look into this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> default JSPWiki template didn't.
>>>>>>>>> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dirk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>
>>>>>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>>>>>>>>>> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that critical.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>
>>>>>> infra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> brand
>>>>>
>>>>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> showstopper.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>> clunkier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> was/is
>>>>>
>>>>>> setup,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> proposing,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>
>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> content/extpaths.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki/content/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>
>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>
>>>>>> locally
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>> locally,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template sitting at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s/
>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>
>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>
>>>>>> and,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides),
>>>>>
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>
>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>
>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi!
(retaking a rather old thread..)
new website is available now, there are a couple of improvements waiting to
be deployed, but basically it's there.
Also, almost all the site is now running under jspwiki-wiki.apache.org
br,
jp
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Dave Koelmeyer <
dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> On 15/04/17 11:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks
>> Dirk!
>>
>> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
>> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
>>
>> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
>> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
>> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to
>> avoid
>> any confusion down the road.
>>
>> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect
>> to
>> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o
>> would
>> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
>>
>> sounds reasonable?
>>
>
> Sorry I dropped the ball a bit on this one—this all looks and sounds
> great. A bit late, but can you please let me know if there's anything you
> need a hand with at this stage?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> --
> Dave Koelmeyer
> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> The Document Foundation (TDF) member
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Hi Dirk,
>>>
>>> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
>>> when finished.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> jp
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
>>> dirk.frederickx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - left menu links:
>>>> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the
>>>> left-menu.
>>>> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
>>>> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
>>>>
>>>> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list
>>>> bullets
>>>> for the different links; like so:
>>>>
>>>> %%accordion
>>>> !Users
>>>> %%list-unstyled
>>>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
>>>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
>>>> * [Wiki Syntax]
>>>> * [Getting Started]
>>>> * [Getting Involved]
>>>> * [Documentation]
>>>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
>>>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
>>>> * [FAQ]
>>>> /%
>>>> !Developpers
>>>> ....
>>>> /%
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - apache branding:
>>>> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
>>>> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
>>>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> dirk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
>>>>>
>>>>> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
>>>>> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's
>>>>> LeftMenu
>>>>> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
>>>>> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
>>>>>
>>>> thoughts
>>>>
>>>>> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
>>>>> reorganize them?
>>>>>
>>>>> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
>>>>>
>>>> Branding
>>>>
>>>>> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
>>>>> customized template be enough?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks + br,
>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>
>>>>> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board
>>>>> report,
>>>>> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
>>>>>
>>>> like to
>>>>
>>>>> send it the day after at most..
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (apologies on the delayed response)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
>>>>>>
>>>>> changes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
>>>>>>
>>>>> f.ex.,
>>>>
>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
>>>>>> just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
>>>>>>
>>>>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>>> As a bonus, the javadocs
>>>>>> would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
>>>>>> - second, make the wiki available through both
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
>>>>>> Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second
>>>>>>
>>>>> so we
>>>>
>>>>> don't have dead links
>>>>>> (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant
>>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> me). In case this combination
>>>>>> is not feasable, keep the wiki under
>>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
>>>>>>
>>>>> (or
>>>>>
>>>>>> whatever), and place a redirect
>>>>>> under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so
>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> "feels" as the project's home page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sounds reasonable? WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
>>>>>> doable under the current CMS. As for
>>>>>> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
>>>>>>
>>>>> yet,
>>>>>
>>>>>> shame on me :-/ In any case, please
>>>>>> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will
>>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>
>>>>> better than my current no-progress at it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
>>>>>>
>>>>> git
>>>>
>>>>> repo to hold the site in there, actually
>>>>>> it's still placed on svn..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> infra
>>>>
>>>>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
>>>>>>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
>>>>>>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> javadocs—I
>>>>
>>>>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>
>>>>> someone can look into this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> default JSPWiki template didn't.
>>>>>>>> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dirk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>
>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>
>>>>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>>>>>>>>> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that critical.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>
>>>>> infra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> brand
>>>>
>>>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>
>>>>> would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> showstopper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> clunkier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> was/is
>>>>
>>>>> setup,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> proposing,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>
>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> content/extpaths.txt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki/content/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>
>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>
>>>>> locally
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> locally,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template sitting at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> s/
>>>>
>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>
>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>
>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>
>>>>> and,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides),
>>>>
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>
>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>
>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Dave Koelmeyer <da...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz>.
Hi All,
On 15/04/17 11:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks Dirk!
>
> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
>
> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to avoid
> any confusion down the road.
>
> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect to
> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o would
> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
>
> sounds reasonable?
Sorry I dropped the ball a bit on this one—this all looks and sounds
great. A bit late, but can you please let me know if there's anything
you need a hand with at this stage?
Cheers,
Dave
--
Dave Koelmeyer
http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
The Document Foundation (TDF) member
>
>> Hi Dirk,
>>
>> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
>> when finished.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> jp
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
>> dirk.frederickx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>
>>>
>>> - left menu links:
>>> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the left-menu.
>>> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
>>> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
>>>
>>> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list
>>> bullets
>>> for the different links; like so:
>>>
>>> %%accordion
>>> !Users
>>> %%list-unstyled
>>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
>>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
>>> * [Wiki Syntax]
>>> * [Getting Started]
>>> * [Getting Involved]
>>> * [Documentation]
>>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
>>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
>>> * [FAQ]
>>> /%
>>> !Developpers
>>> ....
>>> /%
>>>
>>>
>>> - apache branding:
>>> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
>>> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
>>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
>>>
>>>
>>> dirk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
>>>> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
>>>>
>>>> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
>>>> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's LeftMenu
>>>> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
>>>> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
>>> thoughts
>>>> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
>>>> reorganize them?
>>>>
>>>> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
>>> the
>>>> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
>>> Branding
>>>> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at
>>> the
>>>> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
>>>> customized template be enough?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks + br,
>>>> juan pablo
>>>>
>>>> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board report,
>>>> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
>>> like to
>>>> send it the day after at most..
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> (apologies on the delayed response)
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
>>>> changes:
>>>>> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
>>> f.ex.,
>>>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
>>>>> just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
>>>> one.
>>>>> As a bonus, the javadocs
>>>>> would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
>>>>> - second, make the wiki available through both
>>> http://jspwiki.apache.org
>>>>> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
>>>>> Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second
>>> so we
>>>>> don't have dead links
>>>>> (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant
>>> to
>>>>> me). In case this combination
>>>>> is not feasable, keep the wiki under http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
>>>> (or
>>>>> whatever), and place a redirect
>>>>> under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so
>>> it
>>>>> "feels" as the project's home page.
>>>>>
>>>>> sounds reasonable? WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
>>>>> doable under the current CMS. As for
>>>>> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
>>>> yet,
>>>>> shame on me :-/ In any case, please
>>>>> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will
>>> be
>>>>> better than my current no-progress at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
>>> git
>>>>> repo to hold the site in there, actually
>>>>> it's still placed on svn..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
>>> infra
>>>>>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
>>>>>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
>>>>>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
>>> javadocs—I
>>>>>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
>>> perhaps
>>>>>> someone can look into this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
>>>>>>> The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously
>>>> the
>>>>>>> default JSPWiki template didn't.
>>>>>>> So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dirk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
>>> about
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
>>> but I
>>>>>>>> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>>>>>>>> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>>>> that critical.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to
>>> ask
>>>>>> infra
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
>>> brand
>>>>>>>>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and
>>> we
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
>>>>>> showstopper.
>>>>>>>>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS
>>> is
>>>>>>>> clunkier
>>>>>>>>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
>>> was/is
>>>>>>>> setup,
>>>>>>>>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>>>>>>>>> proposing,
>>>>>>>>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
>>> directly
>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>>>>> content/extpaths.txt
>>>>>>>>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>>>>>>>>> jspwiki/content/
>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
>>>>>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
>>> over
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
>>> site
>>>>>>>>>> locally
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build
>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> locally,
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
>>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>> template sitting at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template
>>> s/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to
>>> go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
>>> remember
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
>>> host
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
>>> location
>>>>>>>>> and,
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
>>> sides),
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
>>> running
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there
>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>>> sites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
>>> that's
>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
+1 from removing SystemInfo from LeftMenuFooter, didn't notice it was also
shown at HomeMenu..
As for the RSS links, the link on INFO dropdown contains the RSS feed of
the page, whereas the other two contain the general RSS. Other than that,
I'm +1 too on removing the latter ones from the template and inserting them
through wiki markup.
thx,
jp
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Dirk Frederickx <di...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Looks really nice indeed -- I did a few small tweaks...
>
>
> The version (and link to the RSS feed) is indeed shown twice. ( which is
> how it was done on the original wiki template )
> I will remove it from the sidebar.
>
> Probably we should remove it completely from the template (also from the
> footer section).
> This info can easily be embedded in any of the wiki pages (e.g. the
> CopyrightNotice), so the user or admin can change it without touching the
> template.
> The RSS-Feed link is also available in the INFO dropdown menu.
>
>
> BTW, I'd also suggest to remove the System Info from the sidebar as well.
> This information is available in the SystemInfo page, and also in the
> HomeMenu page (logo dropdown menu)
>
>
> dirk
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks
> Dirk!
> >
> > for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
> > doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
> >
> > As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
> > moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
> > wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to
> avoid
> > any confusion down the road.
> >
> > My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
> > http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect
> > to
> > it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o
> would
> > be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
> >
> > sounds reasonable?
> >
> >
> > br,
> > juan pablo
> >
> > ps.: unrelated to all these things, one last question, I've noticed that
> > with the current template we're displaying the JSPWiki version twice, one
> > below LeftMenuFooter and another one below CopyrightNotice, would it make
> > sense to only display one of them (f.ex., the latter)?
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dirk,
> > >
> > > I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back
> here
> > > when finished.
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > jp
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
> > > dirk.frederickx@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Pablo,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - left menu links:
> > >> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the
> > left-menu.
> > >> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
> > >> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
> > >>
> > >> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list
> > >> bullets
> > >> for the different links; like so:
> > >>
> > >> %%accordion
> > >> !Users
> > >> %%list-unstyled
> > >> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
> > >> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
> > >> * [Wiki Syntax]
> > >> * [Getting Started]
> > >> * [Getting Involved]
> > >> * [Documentation]
> > >> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
> > >> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
> > >> * [FAQ]
> > >> /%
> > >> !Developpers
> > >> ....
> > >> /%
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - apache branding:
> > >> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
> > >> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
> > >> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> dirk
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi!
> > >> >
> > >> > finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
> > >> > jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
> > >> >
> > >> > - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o,
> > but
> > >> > that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's
> > LeftMenu
> > >> > page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it
> > would
> > >> > also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
> > >> thoughts
> > >> > on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or
> > perhaps
> > >> > reorganize them?
> > >> >
> > >> > - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and
> at
> > >> the
> > >> > end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
> > >> Branding
> > >> > guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not
> > at
> > >> the
> > >> > bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
> > >> > customized template be enough?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > thanks + br,
> > >> > juan pablo
> > >> >
> > >> > ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board
> > report,
> > >> > most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
> > >> like to
> > >> > send it the day after at most..
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> > juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Dave,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > (apologies on the delayed response)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
> > >> > changes:
> > >> > > - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
> > >> f.ex.,
> > >> > > http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
> > >> > > just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the
> > old
> > >> > one.
> > >> > > As a bonus, the javadocs
> > >> > > would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/
> > apidocs
> > >> > > - second, make the wiki available through both
> > >> http://jspwiki.apache.org
> > >> > > and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
> > >> > > Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the
> second
> > >> so we
> > >> > > don't have dead links
> > >> > > (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems
> redundant
> > >> to
> > >> > > me). In case this combination
> > >> > > is not feasable, keep the wiki under
> > http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
> > >> > (or
> > >> > > whatever), and place a redirect
> > >> > > under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
> so
> > >> it
> > >> > > "feels" as the project's home page.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > sounds reasonable? WDYT?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The first change and the redirect part on the second are very
> easily
> > >> > > doable under the current CMS. As for
> > >> > > other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any
> > progress
> > >> > yet,
> > >> > > shame on me :-/ In any case, please
> > >> > > feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there
> will
> > >> be
> > >> > > better than my current no-progress at it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a
> new
> > >> git
> > >> > > repo to hold the site in there, actually
> > >> > > it's still placed on svn..
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
> > >> > > juan pablo
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> > >> > > dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Hi All,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
> > >> infra
> > >> > >> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to
> > get
> > >> > >> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old
> site.
> > As
> > >> > >> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
> > >> javadocs—I
> > >> > >> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
> > >> perhaps
> > >> > >> someone can look into this?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Cheers,
> > >> > >> Dave
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
> > >> > >> > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while
> > previously
> > >> > the
> > >> > >> > default JSPWiki template didn't.
> > >> > >> > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > dirk
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
> > >> harry.metske@gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra
> team
> > >> about
> > >> > >> this.
> > >> > >> >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have
> now,
> > >> but I
> > >> > >> >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
> > >> > >> >> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and
> > then,
> > >> > >> it's not
> > >> > >> >> that critical.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> regards,
> > >> > >> >> Harry
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> > >> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>> Hi,
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier
> to
> > >> ask
> > >> > >> infra
> > >> > >> >> to
> > >> > >> >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are
> some
> > >> brand
> > >> > >> >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links,
> > the
> > >> > >> Apache
> > >> > >> >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly)
> and
> > >> we
> > >> > >> would
> > >> > >> >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
> > >> > >> showstopper.
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the
> CMS
> > >> is
> > >> > >> >> clunkier
> > >> > >> >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a
> > few
> > >> > >> small
> > >> > >> >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
> > >> was/is
> > >> > >> >> setup,
> > >> > >> >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> thoughts?
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> best regards,
> > >> > >> >>> juan pablo
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
> > >> > harry.metske@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> >>> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from
> > jspwiki.apache.org
> > >> to
> > >> > >> >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
> > >> > >> >>>>
> > >> > >> >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> > >> >>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>> Hi Harry,
> > >> > >> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what
> > you're
> > >> > >> >>> proposing,
> > >> > >> >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having
> > something
> > >> > like
> > >> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
> > >> > >> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
> > >> directly
> > >> > >> >>> point
> > >> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
> > >> > >> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit
> > this
> > >> > >> >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're
> currently
> > >> > doing
> > >> > >> >>> with
> > >> > >> >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
> > >> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> > >> > >> >>> content/extpaths.txt
> > >> > >> >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
> > >> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
> > >> > >> >>> jspwiki/content/
> > >> > >> >>>> ..
> > >> > >> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>> br,
> > >> > >> >>>>> juan pablo
> > >> > >> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
> > >> > >> harry.metske@gmail.com
> > >> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some
> html/js
> > >> over
> > >> > >> >>> there
> > >> > >> >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
> > >> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> > >> >>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
> > >> site
> > >> > >> >>>> locally
> > >> > >> >>>>>> is a
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to
> > build
> > >> it
> > >> > >> >>>>> locally,
> > >> > >> >>>>>> is
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
> > >> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> > >> > >> >>> with
> > >> > >> >>>>> the
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> old
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> template sitting at
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> > template
> > >> s/
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site,
> > rather
> > >> > than
> > >> > >> >>>>>> building
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
> > >> keep
> > >> > >> >>>> pushing
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready
> to
> > >> go.
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
> > >> remember
> > >> > >> >>> the
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm
> to
> > >> host
> > >> > >> >> the
> > >> > >> >>>>> wiki,
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
> > >> location
> > >> > >> >>> and,
> > >> > >> >>>> as
> > >> > >> >>>>>> our
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
> > >> sides),
> > >> > >> >> we
> > >> > >> >>>>> didn't
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> br,
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> juan pablo
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> > >> > >> >>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
> > >> running
> > >> > >> >>> the
> > >> > >> >>>>> old
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is
> > there
> > >> any
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
> > >> > >> >> separate
> > >> > >> >>>>> sites,
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/
> > could
> > >> > >> >> just
> > >> > >> >>>> sit
> > >> > >> >>>>> in
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
> > >> that's
> > >> > >> >>> not a
> > >> > >> >>>>> big
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> deal.)
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> Dave Koelmeyer
> > >> > >> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> > >> > >> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Dirk Frederickx <di...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Looks really nice indeed -- I did a few small tweaks...
The version (and link to the RSS feed) is indeed shown twice. ( which is
how it was done on the original wiki template )
I will remove it from the sidebar.
Probably we should remove it completely from the template (also from the
footer section).
This info can easily be embedded in any of the wiki pages (e.g. the
CopyrightNotice), so the user or admin can change it without touching the
template.
The RSS-Feed link is also available in the INFO dropdown menu.
BTW, I'd also suggest to remove the System Info from the sidebar as well.
This information is available in the SystemInfo page, and also in the
HomeMenu page (logo dropdown menu)
dirk
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks Dirk!
>
> for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
> doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
>
> As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
> moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
> wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to avoid
> any confusion down the road.
>
> My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
> http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect
> to
> it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o would
> be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
>
> sounds reasonable?
>
>
> br,
> juan pablo
>
> ps.: unrelated to all these things, one last question, I've noticed that
> with the current template we're displaying the JSPWiki version twice, one
> below LeftMenuFooter and another one below CopyrightNotice, would it make
> sense to only display one of them (f.ex., the latter)?
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dirk,
> >
> > I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
> > when finished.
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > jp
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
> > dirk.frederickx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Pablo,
> >>
> >>
> >> - left menu links:
> >> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the
> left-menu.
> >> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
> >> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
> >>
> >> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list
> >> bullets
> >> for the different links; like so:
> >>
> >> %%accordion
> >> !Users
> >> %%list-unstyled
> >> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
> >> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
> >> * [Wiki Syntax]
> >> * [Getting Started]
> >> * [Getting Involved]
> >> * [Documentation]
> >> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
> >> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
> >> * [FAQ]
> >> /%
> >> !Developpers
> >> ....
> >> /%
> >>
> >>
> >> - apache branding:
> >> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
> >> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
> >> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
> >>
> >>
> >> dirk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
> >> > jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
> >> >
> >> > - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o,
> but
> >> > that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's
> LeftMenu
> >> > page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it
> would
> >> > also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
> >> thoughts
> >> > on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or
> perhaps
> >> > reorganize them?
> >> >
> >> > - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
> >> the
> >> > end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
> >> Branding
> >> > guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not
> at
> >> the
> >> > bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
> >> > customized template be enough?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thanks + br,
> >> > juan pablo
> >> >
> >> > ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board
> report,
> >> > most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
> >> like to
> >> > send it the day after at most..
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> > juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Dave,
> >> > >
> >> > > (apologies on the delayed response)
> >> > >
> >> > > Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
> >> > changes:
> >> > > - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
> >> f.ex.,
> >> > > http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
> >> > > just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the
> old
> >> > one.
> >> > > As a bonus, the javadocs
> >> > > would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/
> apidocs
> >> > > - second, make the wiki available through both
> >> http://jspwiki.apache.org
> >> > > and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
> >> > > Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second
> >> so we
> >> > > don't have dead links
> >> > > (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant
> >> to
> >> > > me). In case this combination
> >> > > is not feasable, keep the wiki under
> http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
> >> > (or
> >> > > whatever), and place a redirect
> >> > > under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so
> >> it
> >> > > "feels" as the project's home page.
> >> > >
> >> > > sounds reasonable? WDYT?
> >> > >
> >> > > The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
> >> > > doable under the current CMS. As for
> >> > > other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any
> progress
> >> > yet,
> >> > > shame on me :-/ In any case, please
> >> > > feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will
> >> be
> >> > > better than my current no-progress at it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
> >> git
> >> > > repo to hold the site in there, actually
> >> > > it's still placed on svn..
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
> >> > > juan pablo
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> >> > > dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi All,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
> >> infra
> >> > >> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to
> get
> >> > >> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site.
> As
> >> > >> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
> >> javadocs—I
> >> > >> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
> >> perhaps
> >> > >> someone can look into this?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Cheers,
> >> > >> Dave
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
> >> > >> > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while
> previously
> >> > the
> >> > >> > default JSPWiki template didn't.
> >> > >> > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > dirk
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
> >> harry.metske@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
> >> about
> >> > >> this.
> >> > >> >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
> >> but I
> >> > >> >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
> >> > >> >> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and
> then,
> >> > >> it's not
> >> > >> >> that critical.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> regards,
> >> > >> >> Harry
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> > >> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>> Hi,
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to
> >> ask
> >> > >> infra
> >> > >> >> to
> >> > >> >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
> >> brand
> >> > >> >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links,
> the
> >> > >> Apache
> >> > >> >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and
> >> we
> >> > >> would
> >> > >> >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
> >> > >> showstopper.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS
> >> is
> >> > >> >> clunkier
> >> > >> >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a
> few
> >> > >> small
> >> > >> >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
> >> was/is
> >> > >> >> setup,
> >> > >> >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> thoughts?
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> best regards,
> >> > >> >>> juan pablo
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
> >> > harry.metske@gmail.com>
> >> > >> >>> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from
> jspwiki.apache.org
> >> to
> >> > >> >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> > >> >>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> Hi Harry,
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what
> you're
> >> > >> >>> proposing,
> >> > >> >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having
> something
> >> > like
> >> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
> >> directly
> >> > >> >>> point
> >> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit
> this
> >> > >> >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
> >> > doing
> >> > >> >>> with
> >> > >> >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
> >> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> >> > >> >>> content/extpaths.txt
> >> > >> >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
> >> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
> >> > >> >>> jspwiki/content/
> >> > >> >>>> ..
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> br,
> >> > >> >>>>> juan pablo
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
> >> > >> harry.metske@gmail.com
> >> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
> >> over
> >> > >> >>> there
> >> > >> >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> > >> >>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
> >> site
> >> > >> >>>> locally
> >> > >> >>>>>> is a
> >> > >> >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to
> build
> >> it
> >> > >> >>>>> locally,
> >> > >> >>>>>> is
> >> > >> >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
> >> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> >> > >> >>> with
> >> > >> >>>>> the
> >> > >> >>>>>>> old
> >> > >> >>>>>>> template sitting at
> >> > >> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> template
> >> s/
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site,
> rather
> >> > than
> >> > >> >>>>>> building
> >> > >> >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
> >> keep
> >> > >> >>>> pushing
> >> > >> >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to
> >> go.
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
> >> remember
> >> > >> >>> the
> >> > >> >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
> >> host
> >> > >> >> the
> >> > >> >>>>> wiki,
> >> > >> >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
> >> location
> >> > >> >>> and,
> >> > >> >>>> as
> >> > >> >>>>>> our
> >> > >> >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
> >> sides),
> >> > >> >> we
> >> > >> >>>>> didn't
> >> > >> >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> br,
> >> > >> >>>>>>> juan pablo
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> >> > >> >>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
> >> running
> >> > >> >>> the
> >> > >> >>>>> old
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is
> there
> >> any
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
> >> > >> >> separate
> >> > >> >>>>> sites,
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/
> could
> >> > >> >> just
> >> > >> >>>> sit
> >> > >> >>>>> in
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
> >> that's
> >> > >> >>> not a
> >> > >> >>>>> big
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> deal.)
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> --
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Dave Koelmeyer
> >> > >> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> >> > >> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
ok it's done now, and the accordion idea looks really nice :-D thanks Dirk!
for the ASF branding links I went with a table on LeftMenuFooter, it
doesn't look bad, but anyone with a better idea feel free to go with it.
As for requesting the site. Currently we're waiting at INFRA-13716 to be
moved away from a ASF CMS based site to a JBake-based one. I'd prefer to
wait for this to be done before requesting anything else, in order to avoid
any confusion down the road.
My suggestion is, once this is done, we request that
http://jspwiki.apache.org/site serves our wiki, so we can put a redirect to
it from the main index.html of the JBake-based site. jspwiki-wiki.a.o would
be also retained, so any old link to our wiki isn't lost.
sounds reasonable?
br,
juan pablo
ps.: unrelated to all these things, one last question, I've noticed that
with the current template we're displaying the JSPWiki version twice, one
below LeftMenuFooter and another one below CopyrightNotice, would it make
sense to only display one of them (f.ex., the latter)?
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dirk,
>
> I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
> when finished.
>
>
> cheers,
> jp
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <
> dirk.frederickx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pablo,
>>
>>
>> - left menu links:
>> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the left-menu.
>> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
>> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
>>
>> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list
>> bullets
>> for the different links; like so:
>>
>> %%accordion
>> !Users
>> %%list-unstyled
>> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
>> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
>> * [Wiki Syntax]
>> * [Getting Started]
>> * [Getting Involved]
>> * [Documentation]
>> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
>> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
>> * [FAQ]
>> /%
>> !Developpers
>> ....
>> /%
>>
>>
>> - apache branding:
>> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
>> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
>> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
>>
>>
>> dirk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
>> > jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
>> >
>> > - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
>> > that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's LeftMenu
>> > page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
>> > also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
>> thoughts
>> > on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
>> > reorganize them?
>> >
>> > - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
>> the
>> > end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
>> Branding
>> > guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at
>> the
>> > bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
>> > customized template be enough?
>> >
>> >
>> > thanks + br,
>> > juan pablo
>> >
>> > ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board report,
>> > most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would
>> like to
>> > send it the day after at most..
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> > juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Dave,
>> > >
>> > > (apologies on the delayed response)
>> > >
>> > > Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
>> > changes:
>> > > - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
>> f.ex.,
>> > > http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
>> > > just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
>> > one.
>> > > As a bonus, the javadocs
>> > > would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
>> > > - second, make the wiki available through both
>> http://jspwiki.apache.org
>> > > and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
>> > > Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second
>> so we
>> > > don't have dead links
>> > > (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant
>> to
>> > > me). In case this combination
>> > > is not feasable, keep the wiki under http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
>> > (or
>> > > whatever), and place a redirect
>> > > under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so
>> it
>> > > "feels" as the project's home page.
>> > >
>> > > sounds reasonable? WDYT?
>> > >
>> > > The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
>> > > doable under the current CMS. As for
>> > > other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
>> > yet,
>> > > shame on me :-/ In any case, please
>> > > feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will
>> be
>> > > better than my current no-progress at it.
>> > >
>> > > Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
>> git
>> > > repo to hold the site in there, actually
>> > > it's still placed on svn..
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
>> > > juan pablo
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>> > > dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi All,
>> > >>
>> > >> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
>> infra
>> > >> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
>> > >> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
>> > >> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the
>> javadocs—I
>> > >> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
>> perhaps
>> > >> someone can look into this?
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers,
>> > >> Dave
>> > >>
>> > >> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
>> > >> > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously
>> > the
>> > >> > default JSPWiki template didn't.
>> > >> > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>> > >> >
>> > >> > dirk
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
>> about
>> > >> this.
>> > >> >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
>> but I
>> > >> >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>> > >> >> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
>> > >> it's not
>> > >> >> that critical.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> regards,
>> > >> >> Harry
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> > >> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> Hi,
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to
>> ask
>> > >> infra
>> > >> >> to
>> > >> >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
>> brand
>> > >> >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
>> > >> Apache
>> > >> >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and
>> we
>> > >> would
>> > >> >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
>> > >> showstopper.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS
>> is
>> > >> >> clunkier
>> > >> >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
>> > >> small
>> > >> >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
>> was/is
>> > >> >> setup,
>> > >> >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> thoughts?
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> best regards,
>> > >> >>> juan pablo
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
>> > harry.metske@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>> wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org
>> to
>> > >> >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> > >> >>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Hi Harry,
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>> > >> >>> proposing,
>> > >> >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
>> > like
>> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
>> directly
>> > >> >>> point
>> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>> > >> >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
>> > doing
>> > >> >>> with
>> > >> >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>> > >> >>> content/extpaths.txt
>> > >> >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>> > >> >>> jspwiki/content/
>> > >> >>>> ..
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> br,
>> > >> >>>>> juan pablo
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
>> > >> harry.metske@gmail.com
>> > >> >>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
>> over
>> > >> >>> there
>> > >> >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> > >> >>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the
>> site
>> > >> >>>> locally
>> > >> >>>>>> is a
>> > >> >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build
>> it
>> > >> >>>>> locally,
>> > >> >>>>>> is
>> > >> >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/a
>> sf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>> > >> >>> with
>> > >> >>>>> the
>> > >> >>>>>>> old
>> > >> >>>>>>> template sitting at
>> > >> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/template
>> s/
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
>> > than
>> > >> >>>>>> building
>> > >> >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and
>> keep
>> > >> >>>> pushing
>> > >> >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to
>> go.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
>> remember
>> > >> >>> the
>> > >> >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
>> host
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >>>>> wiki,
>> > >> >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
>> location
>> > >> >>> and,
>> > >> >>>> as
>> > >> >>>>>> our
>> > >> >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
>> sides),
>> > >> >> we
>> > >> >>>>> didn't
>> > >> >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> br,
>> > >> >>>>>>> juan pablo
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>> > >> >>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
>> running
>> > >> >>> the
>> > >> >>>>> old
>> > >> >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there
>> any
>> > >> >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>> > >> >> separate
>> > >> >>>>> sites,
>> > >> >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>> > >> >> just
>> > >> >>>> sit
>> > >> >>>>> in
>> > >> >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but
>> that's
>> > >> >>> not a
>> > >> >>>>> big
>> > >> >>>>>>>> deal.)
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> --
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>> > >> >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>> > >> >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Dave Koelmeyer
>> > >> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>> > >> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dirk,
I like very much the accordion idea! I'll play with it and come back here
when finished.
cheers,
jp
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Dirk Frederickx <di...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
>
> - left menu links:
> You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the left-menu.
> This will only make the User section fully expanded.
> The other sections can then be opened with a click.
>
> To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list bullets
> for the different links; like so:
>
> %%accordion
> !Users
> %%list-unstyled
> * [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
> * [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
> * [Wiki Syntax]
> * [Getting Started]
> * [Getting Involved]
> * [Documentation]
> * [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
> * [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
> * [FAQ]
> /%
> !Developpers
> ....
> /%
>
>
> - apache branding:
> LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
> We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
> would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
>
>
> dirk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
> > jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
> >
> > - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
> > that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's LeftMenu
> > page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
> > also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen..
> thoughts
> > on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
> > reorganize them?
> >
> > - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at
> the
> > end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache
> Branding
> > guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at
> the
> > bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
> > customized template be enough?
> >
> >
> > thanks + br,
> > juan pablo
> >
> > ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board report,
> > most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would like
> to
> > send it the day after at most..
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > (apologies on the delayed response)
> > >
> > > Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
> > changes:
> > > - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through,
> f.ex.,
> > > http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
> > > just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
> > one.
> > > As a bonus, the javadocs
> > > would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
> > > - second, make the wiki available through both
> http://jspwiki.apache.org
> > > and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
> > > Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second so
> we
> > > don't have dead links
> > > (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant to
> > > me). In case this combination
> > > is not feasable, keep the wiki under http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
> > (or
> > > whatever), and place a redirect
> > > under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so it
> > > "feels" as the project's home page.
> > >
> > > sounds reasonable? WDYT?
> > >
> > > The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
> > > doable under the current CMS. As for
> > > other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
> > yet,
> > > shame on me :-/ In any case, please
> > > feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will be
> > > better than my current no-progress at it.
> > >
> > > Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new
> git
> > > repo to hold the site in there, actually
> > > it's still placed on svn..
> > >
> > >
> > > best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
> > > juan pablo
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> > > dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi All,
> > >>
> > >> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from
> infra
> > >> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
> > >> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
> > >> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the javadocs—I
> > >> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so
> perhaps
> > >> someone can look into this?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
> > >> > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously
> > the
> > >> > default JSPWiki template didn't.
> > >> > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
> > >> >
> > >> > dirk
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <
> harry.metske@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team
> about
> > >> this.
> > >> >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now,
> but I
> > >> >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
> > >> >> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
> > >> it's not
> > >> >> that critical.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> regards,
> > >> >> Harry
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Hi,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to ask
> > >> infra
> > >> >> to
> > >> >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some
> brand
> > >> >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
> > >> Apache
> > >> >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and we
> > >> would
> > >> >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
> > >> showstopper.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS is
> > >> >> clunkier
> > >> >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
> > >> small
> > >> >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org
> was/is
> > >> >> setup,
> > >> >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> thoughts?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> best regards,
> > >> >>> juan pablo
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
> > harry.metske@gmail.com>
> > >> >>> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org
> to
> > >> >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> >>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> Hi Harry,
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
> > >> >>> proposing,
> > >> >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
> > like
> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to
> directly
> > >> >>> point
> > >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
> > >> >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
> > doing
> > >> >>> with
> > >> >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> > >> >>> content/extpaths.txt
> > >> >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
> > >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
> > >> >>> jspwiki/content/
> > >> >>>> ..
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> br,
> > >> >>>>> juan pablo
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
> > >> harry.metske@gmail.com
> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js
> over
> > >> >>> there
> > >> >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> > >> >>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the site
> > >> >>>> locally
> > >> >>>>>> is a
> > >> >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build
> it
> > >> >>>>> locally,
> > >> >>>>>> is
> > >> >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/
> asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> > >> >>> with
> > >> >>>>> the
> > >> >>>>>>> old
> > >> >>>>>>> template sitting at
> > >> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> templates/
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
> > than
> > >> >>>>>> building
> > >> >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and keep
> > >> >>>> pushing
> > >> >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to go.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't
> remember
> > >> >>> the
> > >> >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to
> host
> > >> >> the
> > >> >>>>> wiki,
> > >> >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual
> location
> > >> >>> and,
> > >> >>>> as
> > >> >>>>>> our
> > >> >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both
> sides),
> > >> >> we
> > >> >>>>> didn't
> > >> >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> br,
> > >> >>>>>>> juan pablo
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> > >> >>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
> > >> >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's
> running
> > >> >>> the
> > >> >>>>> old
> > >> >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there
> any
> > >> >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
> > >> >> separate
> > >> >>>>> sites,
> > >> >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
> > >> >> just
> > >> >>>> sit
> > >> >>>>> in
> > >> >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but that's
> > >> >>> not a
> > >> >>>>> big
> > >> >>>>>>>> deal.)
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> --
> > >> >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
> > >> >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> > >> >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Dave Koelmeyer
> > >> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> > >> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Dirk Frederickx <di...@gmail.com>.
Hi Pablo,
- left menu links:
You could use %%accordion for the different sections in the left-menu.
This will only make the User section fully expanded.
The other sections can then be opened with a click.
To keep the markup simple & readable, you can use ordinary list bullets
for the different links; like so:
%%accordion
!Users
%%list-unstyled
* [JSPWiki's website|http://jspwiki.apache.org]
* [Download JSPWiki|Downloads]
* [Wiki Syntax]
* [Getting Started]
* [Getting Involved]
* [Documentation]
* [Mailing lists|Mailing Lists]
* [ReleaseNotes|NewIn]
* [FAQ]
/%
!Developpers
....
/%
- apache branding:
LeftMenuFooter would probably be the best place to add this info.
We should avoid putting such info in the template jsp's, cause that
would make it less easy to change by a user/admin of a JSPWiki site.
dirk
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
> jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
>
> - left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
> that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's LeftMenu
> page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
> also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen.. thoughts
> on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
> reorganize them?
>
> - ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at the
> end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache Branding
> guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at the
> bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
> customized template be enough?
>
>
> thanks + br,
> juan pablo
>
> ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board report,
> most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would like to
> send it the day after at most..
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > (apologies on the delayed response)
> >
> > Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of
> changes:
> > - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through, f.ex.,
> > http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
> > just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old
> one.
> > As a bonus, the javadocs
> > would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
> > - second, make the wiki available through both http://jspwiki.apache.org
> > and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
> > Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second so we
> > don't have dead links
> > (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant to
> > me). In case this combination
> > is not feasable, keep the wiki under http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs
> (or
> > whatever), and place a redirect
> > under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so it
> > "feels" as the project's home page.
> >
> > sounds reasonable? WDYT?
> >
> > The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
> > doable under the current CMS. As for
> > other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress
> yet,
> > shame on me :-/ In any case, please
> > feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will be
> > better than my current no-progress at it.
> >
> > Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new git
> > repo to hold the site in there, actually
> > it's still placed on svn..
> >
> >
> > best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
> > juan pablo
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> > dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from infra
> >> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
> >> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
> >> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the javadocs—I
> >> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so perhaps
> >> someone can look into this?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
> >> > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously
> the
> >> > default JSPWiki template didn't.
> >> > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
> >> >
> >> > dirk
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <harry.metske@gmail.com
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team about
> >> this.
> >> >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now, but I
> >> >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
> >> >> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
> >> it's not
> >> >> that critical.
> >> >>
> >> >> regards,
> >> >> Harry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to ask
> >> infra
> >> >> to
> >> >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some brand
> >> >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
> >> Apache
> >> >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and we
> >> would
> >> >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
> >> showstopper.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS is
> >> >> clunkier
> >> >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
> >> small
> >> >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org was/is
> >> >> setup,
> >> >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> thoughts?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> best regards,
> >> >>> juan pablo
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <
> harry.metske@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org to
> >> >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> >>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi Harry,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
> >> >>> proposing,
> >> >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something
> like
> >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to directly
> >> >>> point
> >> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
> >> >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently
> doing
> >> >>> with
> >> >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
> >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> >> >>> content/extpaths.txt
> >> >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
> >> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
> >> >>> jspwiki/content/
> >> >>>> ..
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> br,
> >> >>>>> juan pablo
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
> >> harry.metske@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js over
> >> >>> there
> >> >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> >>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the site
> >> >>>> locally
> >> >>>>>> is a
> >> >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build it
> >> >>>>> locally,
> >> >>>>>> is
> >> >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> >> >>> with
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>> old
> >> >>>>>>> template sitting at
> >> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/templates/
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather
> than
> >> >>>>>> building
> >> >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and keep
> >> >>>> pushing
> >> >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to go.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't remember
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to host
> >> >> the
> >> >>>>> wiki,
> >> >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual location
> >> >>> and,
> >> >>>> as
> >> >>>>>> our
> >> >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both sides),
> >> >> we
> >> >>>>> didn't
> >> >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> br,
> >> >>>>>>> juan pablo
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> >> >>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
> >> >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's running
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>>> old
> >> >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there any
> >> >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
> >> >> separate
> >> >>>>> sites,
> >> >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
> >> >> just
> >> >>>> sit
> >> >>>>> in
> >> >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but that's
> >> >>> not a
> >> >>>>> big
> >> >>>>>>>> deal.)
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>> Dave
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
> >> >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> >> >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave Koelmeyer
> >> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
> >> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi!
finally, just've finished migrating the content from the site to
jspwiki-wiki.a.o. There are a couple of things pending, though:
- left menu links: I'd like to retain the structure of jspwiki.a.o, but
that would imply losing some actual links on jspwiki-wiki.a.o's LeftMenu
page. Also, with LeftMenuFooter inserting a couple of plugins, it would
also mean that the left menu would normally *not* fit on screen.. thoughts
on how to solve? perhaps with a style to make links smaller? or perhaps
reorganize them?
- ASF links: jspwiki.a.o has some links on the top right corner and at the
end of the left menu which have to be there to comply with Apache Branding
guidelines (they must exist and be prominently visible, that is, not at the
bottom of the page). Thoughts on how to place them? would a slightly
customized template be enough?
thanks + br,
juan pablo
ps: I'm a couple of days late on presenting this quarter's board report,
most probably will came up with a draft tomorrow morning, and would like to
send it the day after at most..
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> (apologies on the delayed response)
>
> Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of changes:
> - first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through, f.ex.,
> http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
> just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old one.
> As a bonus, the javadocs
> would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
> - second, make the wiki available through both http://jspwiki.apache.org
> and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
> Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second so we
> don't have dead links
> (I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant to
> me). In case this combination
> is not feasable, keep the wiki under http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs (or
> whatever), and place a redirect
> under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so it
> "feels" as the project's home page.
>
> sounds reasonable? WDYT?
>
> The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily
> doable under the current CMS. As for
> other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress yet,
> shame on me :-/ In any case, please
> feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will be
> better than my current no-progress at it.
>
> Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new git
> repo to hold the site in there, actually
> it's still placed on svn..
>
>
> best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
> juan pablo
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from infra
>> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
>> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
>> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the javadocs—I
>> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so perhaps
>> someone can look into this?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
>> > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously the
>> > default JSPWiki template didn't.
>> > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
>> >
>> > dirk
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team about
>> this.
>> >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now, but I
>> >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
>> >> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
>> >>
>> >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then,
>> it's not
>> >> that critical.
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> Harry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to ask
>> infra
>> >> to
>> >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some brand
>> >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
>> Apache
>> >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and we
>> would
>> >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a
>> showstopper.
>> >>>
>> >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS is
>> >> clunkier
>> >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few
>> small
>> >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org was/is
>> >> setup,
>> >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
>> >>>
>> >>> thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> best regards,
>> >>> juan pablo
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org to
>> >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> >>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Harry,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
>> >>> proposing,
>> >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something like
>> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to directly
>> >>> point
>> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
>> >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently doing
>> >>> with
>> >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
>> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>> >>> content/extpaths.txt
>> >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
>> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
>> >>> jspwiki/content/
>> >>>> ..
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> br,
>> >>>>> juan pablo
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <
>> harry.metske@gmail.com
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js over
>> >>> there
>> >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> >>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the site
>> >>>> locally
>> >>>>>> is a
>> >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build it
>> >>>>> locally,
>> >>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
>> >>> with
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> old
>> >>>>>>> template sitting at
>> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/templates/
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather than
>> >>>>>> building
>> >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and keep
>> >>>> pushing
>> >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to go.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't remember
>> >>> the
>> >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to host
>> >> the
>> >>>>> wiki,
>> >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual location
>> >>> and,
>> >>>> as
>> >>>>>> our
>> >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both sides),
>> >> we
>> >>>>> didn't
>> >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> br,
>> >>>>>>> juan pablo
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
>> >>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
>> >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's running
>> >>> the
>> >>>>> old
>> >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there any
>> >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
>> >> separate
>> >>>>> sites,
>> >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
>> >> just
>> >>>> sit
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but that's
>> >>> not a
>> >>>>> big
>> >>>>>>>> deal.)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>> Dave
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Dave Koelmeyer
>> >>>>>>>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>> >>>>>>>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Koelmeyer
>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>
>>
>
Re: Apache JSPWiki homepage template
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dave,
(apologies on the delayed response)
Don't know if it is too late, but I'd like to ask for a couple of changes:
- first, make the old site so it could still be accesible through, f.ex.,
http://jspwiki.apache.org/old
just in case there's a (wiki) VM failure, we could point to the old one.
As a bonus, the javadocs
would still be accesible through http://jspwiki.apache.org/apidocs
- second, make the wiki available through both http://jspwiki.apache.org
and http://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org.
Make the first the "official" link for wiki docs, keep the second so we
don't have dead links
(I prefer jspwiki.a.o over jspwiki-wiki.a.o, which seems redundant to
me). In case this combination
is not feasable, keep the wiki under http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs (or
whatever), and place a redirect
under jspwiki.a.o/index.html to http://jspwiki.apache.org/docs so it
"feels" as the project's home page.
sounds reasonable? WDYT?
The first change and the redirect part on the second are very easily doable
under the current CMS. As for
other part, I know I volunteered for it, but hadn't made any progress yet,
shame on me :-/ In any case, please
feel free to start migrating the content! Any progress in there will be
better than my current no-progress at it.
Last, in case all of the above sounds reasonable, I'll request a new git
repo to hold the site in there, actually
it's still placed on svn..
best regards + thanks for bringing this up!
juan pablo
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> So it sounds like we can go ahead with requesting a redirect from infra
> to point jspwiki.apache.org at jspwiki-wiki.apache.org? Happy to get
> this underway and take on migrating any content from the old site. As
> far as I'm aware, the only outstanding consideration is the javadocs—I
> don't know enough about this to suggest where to host these, so perhaps
> someone can look into this?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> On 13/08/16 00:51, Dirk Frederickx wrote:
> > The HADDOCK template now shows the Apache brand , while previously the
> > default JSPWiki template didn't.
> > So maybe now a single JPSWiki homepage would be possible
> >
> > dirk
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I remember we have had a sort of discussion with the infra team about
> this.
> >> The end of the discussion was that we came to what we have now, but I
> >> cannot remember anymore what the exact reasons were.
> >> We could ask them what their opinion is now...
> >>
> >> I am not so worried about having some downtime every now and then, it's
> not
> >> that critical.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Harry
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12 August 2016 at 13:59, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> (a little bit late, but) in that case wouldn't it be easier to ask
> infra
> >> to
> >>> point jspwiki.apache.org directly to the wiki? There are some brand
> >>> requirements we should follow (most of the upper right links, the
> Apache
> >>> section on the left, and the footer, if I recall correctly) and we
> would
> >>> have to find a place for javadocs, but this shouldn't be a showstopper.
> >>>
> >>> My only concern with this is having the wiki always up, the CMS is
> >> clunkier
> >>> to update, but it is always up, whereas the wiki VM has had a few small
> >>> (=hours) hiccups. But other than that, it's how jspwiki.org was/is
> >> setup,
> >>> so I'm not opposed to switch to a full wiki homepage.
> >>>
> >>> thoughts?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> best regards,
> >>> juan pablo
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> my suggestion was the latter (redirect from jspwiki.apache.org to
> >>>> jspwiki-wiki.apache.org)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5 August 2016 at 14:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Harry,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> technical issues aside, I'm not sure I'm following what you're
> >>> proposing,
> >>>>> if replacing jspwiki.a.o with our wiki, or if having something like
> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o/wiki redirecting to the wiki?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> for the former I think it would be easier to ask infra to directly
> >>> point
> >>>>> jspwiki.a.o to the wiki vm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> for the latter I think I'd be able to make a quick commit this
> >>>>> afternoon/weekend, it's very simimlar to what we're currently doing
> >>> with
> >>>>> the javadocs; it's matter of adding an entry to
> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> >>> content/extpaths.txt
> >>>>> and then commiting the desired directory+file to
> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/
> >>> jspwiki/content/
> >>>> ..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> br,
> >>>>> juan pablo
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Harry Metske <harry.metske@gmail.com
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> can't we just make that page empty and only put some html/js over
> >>> there
> >>>>>> that immediately redirects to the wiki home page?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5 August 2016 at 11:28, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> >>>>>> juanpablo.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> IMO there isn't any showstopper, only that generating the site
> >>>> locally
> >>>>>> is a
> >>>>>>> bit complicated. The site, with instructions on how to build it
> >>>>> locally,
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> in SVN at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/
> >>> with
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> old
> >>>>>>> template sitting at
> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jspwiki/site/trunk/templates/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That said, as we're not updating very often the site, rather than
> >>>>>> building
> >>>>>>> locally, perhaps is easier to use the CMS bookmarklet and keep
> >>>> pushing
> >>>>>>> changes to staging area until the new template is ready to go.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regarding the different url for jspwiki-wiki.a.o, don't remember
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> specifics but, long story short, when setting up the vm to host
> >> the
> >>>>> wiki,
> >>>>>>> the Infra team found easier to set it up at the actual location
> >>> and,
> >>>> as
> >>>>>> our
> >>>>>>> request took several months to complete (delays on both sides),
> >> we
> >>>>> didn't
> >>>>>>> push to have the wiki inside jspwiki.a.o.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> br,
> >>>>>>> juan pablo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> >>>>>>> dave.koelmeyer@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Quick question, the homepage for JSPWiki is currently:
> >>>>>>>> https://jspwiki.apache.org/ – and as can be seen it's running
> >>> the
> >>>>> old
> >>>>>>>> template. Perhaps not the best first impression :) Is there any
> >>>>>>>> show-stopper preventing switching this to Haddock?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> (On a related note I'm not quite sure why there are two
> >> separate
> >>>>> sites,
> >>>>>>>> when the content of https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/ could
> >> just
> >>>> sit
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> the same instance as https://jspwiki.apache.org/, but that's
> >>> not a
> >>>>> big
> >>>>>>>> deal.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
>
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