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JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Hi,
I am currently "representing" the ASF on the above JSR.
However, I never really did much. Also I never really committed
anything to this podling. I just try to help the community growing
whenever I have some free time.
I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
of the spec/EG.
Thanks!
Matthias
--
Matthias Wessendorf
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Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM, James Carman
<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I saw on the blog of the Resin folks that they have their 299 IMPL
>> working smoothly together. But, sure, that is "only" a hello world.
>
> Yes, that was another implementation that I've been looking into.
>
> What I would *really* love to have is the right API to be able to
> access what I need as a framework developer in a
> non-implementation-specific way. That way, I wouldn't have to have
> special "flavors" of my framework for each implementation that I want
> to support (I have an "adapter" SPI). The specification should
> address this, IMHO.
+1 I am on the same page!
-Matthias
>
--
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Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by James Carman <jc...@carmanconsulting.com>.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> I saw on the blog of the Resin folks that they have their 299 IMPL
> working smoothly together. But, sure, that is "only" a hello world.
Yes, that was another implementation that I've been looking into.
What I would *really* love to have is the right API to be able to
access what I need as a framework developer in a
non-implementation-specific way. That way, I wouldn't have to have
special "flavors" of my framework for each implementation that I want
to support (I have an "adapter" SPI). The specification should
address this, IMHO.
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, James Carman
<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> you can join as an individual. To represent the ASF on an EG, you really
>> need to be a committer, at an ASF project
>
> I *was* on the HiveMind PMC. I served as the chair until it met its
> demise just recently. I'm also a member of the Apache Commons PMC.
oh, cool. I did not know that :-)
>
>> Is there already some working tutorial or so for Wicket/Tapestry AND
>> OWB ?
>
> There's something out there that shows how to use Seam with Wicket,
> but nothing (that I know of) for OWB (or JSR-299 in general). I'm
> working on a library for JSR-299 support in Wicket right now using,
> but this whole lack of support for conversations in a non-JSF
> environment is really stalling me.
I saw on the blog of the Resin folks that they have their 299 IMPL
working smoothly together. But, sure, that is "only" a hello world.
>
> As for Tapestry, I left that community long ago. I'm not exactly sure
> what those folks are up to. I merely mentioned it, since it's another
> web framework that I know could (or rather should) be interested in
> JSR-299. Although, since they have their own IoC framework (TapIoCa
> :), they may not. Who knows? :)
Oh, again a new IoC ? Weren't they using HiveMind ?
-M
>
--
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Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by James Carman <jc...@carmanconsulting.com>.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> you can join as an individual. To represent the ASF on an EG, you really
> need to be a committer, at an ASF project
I *was* on the HiveMind PMC. I served as the chair until it met its
demise just recently. I'm also a member of the Apache Commons PMC.
> Is there already some working tutorial or so for Wicket/Tapestry AND
> OWB ?
There's something out there that shows how to use Seam with Wicket,
but nothing (that I know of) for OWB (or JSR-299 in general). I'm
working on a library for JSR-299 support in Wicket right now using,
but this whole lack of support for conversations in a non-JSF
environment is really stalling me.
As for Tapestry, I left that community long ago. I'm not exactly sure
what those folks are up to. I merely mentioned it, since it's another
web framework that I know could (or rather should) be interested in
JSR-299. Although, since they have their own IoC framework (TapIoCa
:), they may not. Who knows? :)
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, James Carman
<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
>> Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
>> make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
>> of the spec/EG.
>
> I would be interested in joining, but I am not an OWB committer. I'm
you can join as an individual. To represent the ASF on an EG, you really
need to be a committer, at an ASF project
> very interested in making sure the spec stays agnostic when it comes
> to the environment in which it runs. The specification should make it
> easy to use in Wicket, or Tapestry, or just plain ole JSP
> applications.
+1 on supporting these frameworks in a proper fashion.
James:
Is there already some working tutorial or so for Wicket/Tapestry AND
OWB ?
-Matthias
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by James Carman <jc...@carmanconsulting.com>.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
> Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
> make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
> of the spec/EG.
I would be interested in joining, but I am not an OWB committer. I'm
very interested in making sure the spec stays agnostic when it comes
to the environment in which it runs. The specification should make it
easy to use in Wicket, or Tapestry, or just plain ole JSP
applications.
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu
<cg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Matthias;
>
> Is it possible to change the EG representation after forming the EG? If it
yes, that should be possible.
> is possible, and you would like to go on this way, I could take the
> responsibility, if there will no problem.
+1
That would be a good fit, IMO.
If there is another one, let's try to add the second person as well.
History:
James and I were (long time ago) interested in the 299 EG.
However, he got "sick" of it before me :-) So, now it is only me.
(-> pretty inactive)
>
> What is the road map for this changing stuffs?
Dunno. Once we have a clear opinion on who (besides Gurkan)
is interested in joining the EG, I'll figure it out.
-Matthias
>
> WDYT guys?
>
> Thanks;
>
> 2009/4/16 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am currently "representing" the ASF on the above JSR.
>> However, I never really did much. Also I never really committed
>> anything to this podling. I just try to help the community growing
>> whenever I have some free time.
>>
>> I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
>> Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
>> make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
>> of the spec/EG.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Matthias
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Gurkan Erdogdu
> http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>.
Hi Matthias;
Is it possible to change the EG representation after forming the EG? If it
is possible, and you would like to go on this way, I could take the
responsibility, if there will no problem.
What is the road map for this changing stuffs?
WDYT guys?
Thanks;
2009/4/16 Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> Hi,
>
> I am currently "representing" the ASF on the above JSR.
> However, I never really did much. Also I never really committed
> anything to this podling. I just try to help the community growing
> whenever I have some free time.
>
> I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
> Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
> make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
> of the spec/EG.
>
> Thanks!
> Matthias
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
--
Gurkan Erdogdu
http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
sounds good.
I'll do the rest.
PS: I don't expect this is a fast process, so bear with me ;-)
-M
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Matthias;
>
> I have done step 1.
>
> Thanks;
>
> Gurkan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>; James Carman <jc...@carmanconsulting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:04:48 PM
> Subject: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
>
> Gurkan and James,
>
> the process for this is like the following:
>
> 1) Have the person nominate themselves for the EG at jcp.org
> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/egnom?id=299
> 2) Email the PMO pmo@jcp.org and ask them to process
> 3) Email Gavin to ensure he accepts
>
> Once you have done step 1), let me know.
> I'll take care of 2) and 3)
>
> Thanks!
> Matthias
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am currently "representing" the ASF on the above JSR.
>> However, I never really did much. Also I never really committed
>> anything to this podling. I just try to help the community growing
>> whenever I have some free time.
>>
>> I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
>> Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
>> make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
>> of the spec/EG.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Matthias
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
>
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>.
Hi Matthias;
I have done step 1.
Thanks;
Gurkan
________________________________
From: Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>; James Carman <jc...@carmanconsulting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:04:48 PM
Subject: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Gurkan and James,
the process for this is like the following:
1) Have the person nominate themselves for the EG at jcp.org
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/egnom?id=299
2) Email the PMO pmo@jcp.org and ask them to process
3) Email Gavin to ensure he accepts
Once you have done step 1), let me know.
I'll take care of 2) and 3)
Thanks!
Matthias
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am currently "representing" the ASF on the above JSR.
> However, I never really did much. Also I never really committed
> anything to this podling. I just try to help the community growing
> whenever I have some free time.
>
> I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
> Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
> make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
> of the spec/EG.
>
> Thanks!
> Matthias
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Gurkan and James,
the process for this is like the following:
1) Have the person nominate themselves for the EG at jcp.org
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/egnom?id=299
2) Email the PMO pmo@jcp.org and ask them to process
3) Email Gavin to ensure he accepts
Once you have done step 1), let me know.
I'll take care of 2) and 3)
Thanks!
Matthias
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am currently "representing" the ASF on the above JSR.
> However, I never really did much. Also I never really committed
> anything to this podling. I just try to help the community growing
> whenever I have some free time.
>
> I want to step back from the Expert Group. Question is now:
> Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This community would
> make most sense to have an active OWB committer being part
> of the spec/EG.
>
> Thanks!
> Matthias
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf