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Posted to dev@tika.apache.org by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> on 2022/03/25 14:46:33 UTC
[DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
All,
I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up
some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to
support 8? If so, for how long?
Cheers,
Tim
Re: [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
Posted by Luís Filipe Nassif <lf...@gmail.com>.
sensible -> sensitive
Em sex, 25 de mar de 2022 21:15, Luís Filipe Nassif <lf...@gmail.com>
escreveu:
> We are moving to java 11 because it's required by Lucene 9, that has some
> features we are interested in.
>
> We use TIKA as a library, using ForkParser to protect against catastrophic
> errors. And we are receiving a lot of illegal reflective access warnings
> because of some Tika dependencies, although they are just warnings. I don't
> expect them to be solved in dependencies in a short period of time...
>
> This is a sensible upgrade, we would need to pay attention to regression
> tests, things like TIKA-3596 could happen...
>
> I'm +0, except if java 11 has something we need.
>
> Cheers
>
> Em sex, 25 de mar de 2022 15:41, Konstantin Gribov <gr...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Hi, folks.
>>
>> I'm +1 to moving to jdk11. Even some distros dropping 1.8 lately so I
>> don't
>> have strong points against letting 11 be minimal version.
>>
>> We use mix of 11 as target and 11+17 as runtime with 1.8 for some legacy
>> applications like Nexus OSS.
>>
>> I'm interested to know how much of our downstream users run Tika as a
>> library and not in isolated context like tika-server/tika-pipes.
>>
>> пт, 25 мар. 2022 г., 20:52 Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>:
>>
>> > If Java 11 makes life easier, then shipping it for Tika 2 would make
>> sense
>> > to me. Java 8 is well…. old….
>> >
>> > > On Mar 25, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Weak +1 for keeping java 8 because it's long term supported by Oracle.
>> > > Tilman
>> > >
>> > > Am 25.03.2022 um 15:46 schrieb Tim Allison:
>> > >> All,
>> > >> I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up
>> > >> some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
>> > >> I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to
>> > >> support 8? If so, for how long?
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers,
>> > >>
>> > >> Tim
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > _______________________
>> > Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 |
>> > http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
>> > http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <
>> > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
>> > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <
>> >
>> https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw
>> >
>> >
>> > This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be
>> > Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of
>> > whether attachments are marked as such.
>> >
>> >
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
Posted by Luís Filipe Nassif <lf...@gmail.com>.
We are moving to java 11 because it's required by Lucene 9, that has some
features we are interested in.
We use TIKA as a library, using ForkParser to protect against catastrophic
errors. And we are receiving a lot of illegal reflective access warnings
because of some Tika dependencies, although they are just warnings. I don't
expect them to be solved in dependencies in a short period of time...
This is a sensible upgrade, we would need to pay attention to regression
tests, things like TIKA-3596 could happen...
I'm +0, except if java 11 has something we need.
Cheers
Em sex, 25 de mar de 2022 15:41, Konstantin Gribov <gr...@gmail.com>
escreveu:
> Hi, folks.
>
> I'm +1 to moving to jdk11. Even some distros dropping 1.8 lately so I don't
> have strong points against letting 11 be minimal version.
>
> We use mix of 11 as target and 11+17 as runtime with 1.8 for some legacy
> applications like Nexus OSS.
>
> I'm interested to know how much of our downstream users run Tika as a
> library and not in isolated context like tika-server/tika-pipes.
>
> пт, 25 мар. 2022 г., 20:52 Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>:
>
> > If Java 11 makes life easier, then shipping it for Tika 2 would make
> sense
> > to me. Java 8 is well…. old….
> >
> > > On Mar 25, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Weak +1 for keeping java 8 because it's long term supported by Oracle.
> > > Tilman
> > >
> > > Am 25.03.2022 um 15:46 schrieb Tim Allison:
> > >> All,
> > >> I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up
> > >> some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
> > >> I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to
> > >> support 8? If so, for how long?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Tim
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________
> > Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 |
> > http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
> > http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <
> > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
> > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <
> >
> https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw
> >
> >
> > This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be
> > Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of
> > whether attachments are marked as such.
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
Posted by Konstantin Gribov <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi, folks.
I'm +1 to moving to jdk11. Even some distros dropping 1.8 lately so I don't
have strong points against letting 11 be minimal version.
We use mix of 11 as target and 11+17 as runtime with 1.8 for some legacy
applications like Nexus OSS.
I'm interested to know how much of our downstream users run Tika as a
library and not in isolated context like tika-server/tika-pipes.
пт, 25 мар. 2022 г., 20:52 Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>:
> If Java 11 makes life easier, then shipping it for Tika 2 would make sense
> to me. Java 8 is well…. old….
>
> > On Mar 25, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>
> wrote:
> >
> > Weak +1 for keeping java 8 because it's long term supported by Oracle.
> > Tilman
> >
> > Am 25.03.2022 um 15:46 schrieb Tim Allison:
> >> All,
> >> I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up
> >> some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
> >> I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to
> >> support 8? If so, for how long?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Tim
> >
> >
>
> _______________________
> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 |
> http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
> http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <
> http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <
> https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw>
>
> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be
> Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of
> whether attachments are marked as such.
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>.
If Java 11 makes life easier, then shipping it for Tika 2 would make sense to me. Java 8 is well…. old….
> On Mar 25, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> Weak +1 for keeping java 8 because it's long term supported by Oracle.
> Tilman
>
> Am 25.03.2022 um 15:46 schrieb Tim Allison:
>> All,
>> I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up
>> some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
>> I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to
>> support 8? If so, for how long?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tim
>
>
_______________________
Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | http://www.opensourceconnections.com <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw>
This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of whether attachments are marked as such.
Re: [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
Posted by Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>.
Weak +1 for keeping java 8 because it's long term supported by Oracle.
Tilman
Am 25.03.2022 um 15:46 schrieb Tim Allison:
> All,
> I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up
> some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
> I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to
> support 8? If so, for how long?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
Re: [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
Posted by Nicholas DiPiazza <ni...@gmail.com>.
I've been not adding it unless I actually add something, because Oracle
committed to several more years of JDK8 support. So I'd only add it if we
want something, like the proc manager for pipes maybe?
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:46 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
> All,
> I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up
> some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
> I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to
> support 8? If so, for how long?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>
RE: [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
Posted by Julien Massiera <ju...@francelabs.com>.
Hi Tim,
from our side we already dropped java 8 and only support java 11, so it would not be a problem for us
Cheers,
Julien
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Objet : [DISCUSS] support for Java 8?
All,
I'm somewhat interested in moving to require Java 11 to clean up some dependency stuff. This is not a burning need.
I wanted to get a sense from our community. Do we still need to support 8? If so, for how long?
Cheers,
Tim