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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Hi,
first of all: sorry for the late response!
I'm not sure why we need the new javadocs page? The users can access the
javadocs from old releases by using the "Site Versions" links.
Can we just keep the Javadocs menu in the left navigation bar and rename
it to "Lucene 2.3.0 API"?
Here's a preview:
http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/
-Michael
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> OK, I committed some changes:
>
> I introduced a new page called javadocs that contains links to 2.x
> builds of the javadocs and also tells people where to go find older
> versions of the javadocs (pre 2.x). This is now the main link from
> Documentation->javadocs.
>
> I moved the Nightly build javadocs links to the developers page
> (Resources->Developers) and put in verbiage saying it is an "Unofficial".
>
> I also added some more Wiki links under the Documentation->Wiki to try
> and promote some more of the Wiki pages.
>
> I also have some Forrest questions. Does anyone know how to make it so
> that the Documentation page is the default expanded page instead of
> About? Similarly, how does one auto-expand a section? Ideally, I think
> we should have the Documentation page expanded, and all items underneath
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> Grant
>
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Cool, thanks Grant!
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> Sorry, missed that one. I put it in and ran the script. Should
> propagate in an hour or so.
>
> -Grant
>
> On Jan 12, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
>
>> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>>
>>> Done. For the record, the script runs:
>>>
>>
>> It works fine! I just checked the website and it has been updated by the
>> script.
>>
>> Only the new "nightly documentation" link doesn't work yet. Did you add
>> the following line to your script (I mentioned it in my last mail)?
>>
>> /usr/local/bin/svn export --force
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/trunk/docs
>> /www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs/nightly
>>
>> -Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
Sorry, missed that one. I put it in and ran the script. Should
propagate in an hour or so.
-Grant
On Jan 12, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>
>> Done. For the record, the script runs:
>>
>
> It works fine! I just checked the website and it has been updated by
> the
> script.
>
> Only the new "nightly documentation" link doesn't work yet. Did you
> add
> the following line to your script (I mentioned it in my last mail)?
>
> /usr/local/bin/svn export --force
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/trunk/docs
> /www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs/nightly
>
> -Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
> Done. For the record, the script runs:
>
It works fine! I just checked the website and it has been updated by the
script.
Only the new "nightly documentation" link doesn't work yet. Did you add
the following line to your script (I mentioned it in my last mail)?
/usr/local/bin/svn export --force
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/trunk/docs
/www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs/nightly
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
> Done. For the record, the script runs:
Cool, thanks!
>
> /usr/local/bin/svn export --force
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/site/docs /www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs
>
>
>> Another question: Do we also want to have a link to the unreleased
>> documentation on the main website? If yes, then the link should probably
>> be somewhere in the Resources->Developers section?
>
> +1
>
OK, I'll add a link to the web site.
Could you also add the following line, please:
/usr/local/bin/svn export --force
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/trunk/docs
/www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs/nightly
Thanks,
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Jan 11, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>> It is svn exported from a crontab on p.a.o under my account. If
>> you can
>> tell me what commands need to be run, I can add it.
>>
>
> You just need to "svn co" the docs from the new location
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/site/docs and "scp" it to
> /www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs.
Done. For the record, the script runs:
/usr/local/bin/svn export --force http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/site/docs
/www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs
>
>
> (before you used to "svn co" from
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/trunk/docs)
>
> The files are in place, you can update your cron as soon as you get a
> chance.
>
> Another question: Do we also want to have a link to the unreleased
> documentation on the main website? If yes, then the link should
> probably
> be somewhere in the Resources->Developers section?
+1
Thanks for all your hard work on this!
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> It is svn exported from a crontab on p.a.o under my account. If you can
> tell me what commands need to be run, I can add it.
>
You just need to "svn co" the docs from the new location
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/site/docs and "scp" it to
/www/lucene.apache.org/java/docs.
(before you used to "svn co" from
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/trunk/docs)
The files are in place, you can update your cron as soon as you get a
chance.
Another question: Do we also want to have a link to the unreleased
documentation on the main website? If yes, then the link should probably
be somewhere in the Resources->Developers section?
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
It is svn exported from a crontab on p.a.o under my account. If you
can tell me what commands need to be run, I can add it.
Presumably the new version of Hudson has the ability to do scp now,
but I haven't had a chance to tackle that yet. At some point, we
should tackle that, which will simplify a lot of this process.
-Grant
On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>> Works for me.
>>
>> -Grant
>>
>
> OK, I checked in the new web site into a new location outside of
> trunk:
> lucene/java/site/. The nightly cron job must copy the files now from
> lucene/java/site/docs instead of lucene/java/trunk/docs. Which
> script do
> I have to change, Grant? The copying is not being done in nighlty.sh
> anymore, right?
>
> I'll update the trunk site later tonight (have to run to the Sharks
> vs.
> Canucks game now ;) )
Hope it was a good game!
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Chris Hostetter wrote:
>
> i trust you :)
Thanks! :)
> i figured it was a work in progress, i just wasn't sure what your plan was
> for what docs would live in the "site" and which would live in the
> release. When i poked arround your preview directory earlier i found two
> copies of "gettingstarted.html" one linked to from releases.html (which
> looks like it will be in the site) and one linked to from the nav of the
> 2.3 docs (hence my initial confusion, and my delving into the commit,
> and falling down the rabbit hole)...
>
> http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/releases.html
> http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/gettingstarted.html
> http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/2_3_0/gettingstarted.html
>
True... I forgot to delete
http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/gettingstarted.html. It should
really only be in one place. Thanks for catching!
Please review the 2.3 docs (in RC2:
http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/staging_area/lucene_2_3/rc2/).
I also generated the main web site files. We still have to change the
cron job to copy from lucene/java/site/docs instead of
lucene/java/trunk/docs. When that's done I'll also update
lucene/java/trunk/docs. If I do that now, the cron job will mess up the
website tonight.
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: The short answer is: I wasn't done yet :-). I'll update the trunk and
: 2.3 branch soon. You can see a preview of the changes I'm going to make
: here: http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/. The 2.3 release will
: then only have 2.3 specific docs.
i trust you :)
i figured it was a work in progress, i just wasn't sure what your plan was
for what docs would live in the "site" and which would live in the
release. When i poked arround your preview directory earlier i found two
copies of "gettingstarted.html" one linked to from releases.html (which
looks like it will be in the site) and one linked to from the nav of the
2.3 docs (hence my initial confusion, and my delving into the commit,
and falling down the rabbit hole)...
http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/releases.html
http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/gettingstarted.html
http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/2_3_0/gettingstarted.html
-Hoss
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Chris Hostetter wrote:
> : OK, I checked in the new web site into a new location outside of trunk:
> : lucene/java/site/. The nightly cron job must copy the files now from
>
> Uh ... point of clarification: these files all seem to be have been
> "svn add"ed (not "svn move"d or "svn copy"ied so they don't have any
> history preserved), and the existing versions all still live
> in the trunk... each doc should really only live in one place right?
> either in the site or in the releases?
>
You're right, I should have used "svn copy" and "svn move". I'll delete
the files and do it again.
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/java/site/src/documentation/content/xdocs/
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/java/trunk/src/site/src/documentation/content/xdocs/
>
> (I ask becaues i wanted to sanity check which files were still going to be
> versioned/included in the releases, and which were going to be "timeless"
> but then i realized at this point everything is duplicated)
>
> I'm also not really clear how this affects the docs that will be included
> in the 2.3 release ... the javdoc links in branches/lucene_2_3 still have
> the same problem as before, right?
>
The short answer is: I wasn't done yet :-). I'll update the trunk and
2.3 branch soon. You can see a preview of the changes I'm going to make
here: http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/. The 2.3 release will
then only have 2.3 specific docs.
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: OK, I checked in the new web site into a new location outside of trunk:
: lucene/java/site/. The nightly cron job must copy the files now from
Uh ... point of clarification: these files all seem to be have been
"svn add"ed (not "svn move"d or "svn copy"ied so they don't have any
history preserved), and the existing versions all still live
in the trunk... each doc should really only live in one place right?
either in the site or in the releases?
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/java/site/src/documentation/content/xdocs/
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/java/trunk/src/site/src/documentation/content/xdocs/
(I ask becaues i wanted to sanity check which files were still going to be
versioned/included in the releases, and which were going to be "timeless"
but then i realized at this point everything is duplicated)
I'm also not really clear how this affects the docs that will be included
in the 2.3 release ... the javdoc links in branches/lucene_2_3 still have
the same problem as before, right?
-Hoss
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> Works for me.
>
> -Grant
>
OK, I checked in the new web site into a new location outside of trunk:
lucene/java/site/. The nightly cron job must copy the files now from
lucene/java/site/docs instead of lucene/java/trunk/docs. Which script do
I have to change, Grant? The copying is not being done in nighlty.sh
anymore, right?
I'll update the trunk site later tonight (have to run to the Sharks vs.
Canucks game now ;) )
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
Works for me.
-Grant
On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
> Doug Cutting wrote:
>> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>> I don't know, I think it is nice to have explicit links to previous
>>> ones as well, but it is one extra click. I suspect that is the main
>>> thing people want from previous versions so it is nice to not have
>>> to
>>> dig deep into the Site Versions and have it right there from the
>>> javadocs link.
>>
>> FYI, in Hadoop we've split the project web site from the
>> version-specific documentation. Releases only contain version-
>> specific
>> documentation. The project's web site is maintained outside of
>> trunk.
>> The version-specific documentation is linked to from the project
>> website
>> and appears as a tab.
>>
>
> Cool, I like that. I tried to do the same with the Lucene web site.
> Here's a preview: http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/
>
> If everyone's ok with this approach I'll commit it!
>
> -Michael
>
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Doug Cutting wrote:
> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>> I don't know, I think it is nice to have explicit links to previous
>> ones as well, but it is one extra click. I suspect that is the main
>> thing people want from previous versions so it is nice to not have to
>> dig deep into the Site Versions and have it right there from the
>> javadocs link.
>
> FYI, in Hadoop we've split the project web site from the
> version-specific documentation. Releases only contain version-specific
> documentation. The project's web site is maintained outside of trunk.
> The version-specific documentation is linked to from the project website
> and appears as a tab.
>
Cool, I like that. I tried to do the same with the Lucene web site.
Here's a preview: http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/
If everyone's ok with this approach I'll commit it!
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Doug Cutting <cu...@apache.org>.
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> I don't know, I think it is nice to have explicit links to previous ones
> as well, but it is one extra click. I suspect that is the main thing
> people want from previous versions so it is nice to not have to dig deep
> into the Site Versions and have it right there from the javadocs link.
FYI, in Hadoop we've split the project web site from the
version-specific documentation. Releases only contain version-specific
documentation. The project's web site is maintained outside of trunk.
The version-specific documentation is linked to from the project website
and appears as a tab.
Note that the 0.14 docs are grafted into this, and still include project
docs, so look at the 0.15 docs for a complete example.
http://lucene.apache.org/hadoop/docs/r0.15.2/
Doug
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
> Or, how about 2.3 and the current javadocs page? Such as:
>
> Javadocs
> - Latest Release -> points to latest official release
> - All Releases -> points to current javadocs page
>
OK sounds good. I will make the change!
-Michael
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Jan 10, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
> Yeah, but I think the Javadocs site will become pretty full when we
> add
> 2.3 links (and 2.4, 2.9, 3.0 in the future). Because we have to have
> multiple links for core, demo, and contribs from 2.3 on.
We can age out older versions. We only have through 2.x on there now.
>
>
> Maybe we could have two menu items for the two most recent releases in
> the left navigation bar? Older ones should be accessed from the Site
> Versions?
Or, how about 2.3 and the current javadocs page? Such as:
Javadocs
- Latest Release -> points to latest official release
- All Releases -> points to current javadocs page
-Grant
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Michael Busch <bu...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, but I think the Javadocs site will become pretty full when we add
2.3 links (and 2.4, 2.9, 3.0 in the future). Because we have to have
multiple links for core, demo, and contribs from 2.3 on.
Maybe we could have two menu items for the two most recent releases in
the left navigation bar? Older ones should be accessed from the Site
Versions?
-Michael
Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> I don't know, I think it is nice to have explicit links to previous ones
> as well, but it is one extra click. I suspect that is the main thing
> people want from previous versions so it is nice to not have to dig deep
> into the Site Versions and have it right there from the javadocs link.
>
> -Grant
>
> On Jan 10, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> first of all: sorry for the late response!
>>
>> I'm not sure why we need the new javadocs page? The users can access the
>> javadocs from old releases by using the "Site Versions" links.
>>
>> Can we just keep the Javadocs menu in the left navigation bar and rename
>> it to "Lucene 2.3.0 API"?
>>
>> Here's a preview:
>> http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>> OK, I committed some changes:
>>>
>>> I introduced a new page called javadocs that contains links to 2.x
>>> builds of the javadocs and also tells people where to go find older
>>> versions of the javadocs (pre 2.x). This is now the main link from
>>> Documentation->javadocs.
>>>
>>> I moved the Nightly build javadocs links to the developers page
>>> (Resources->Developers) and put in verbiage saying it is an
>>> "Unofficial".
>>>
>>> I also added some more Wiki links under the Documentation->Wiki to try
>>> and promote some more of the Wiki pages.
>>>
>>> I also have some Forrest questions. Does anyone know how to make it so
>>> that the Documentation page is the default expanded page instead of
>>> About? Similarly, how does one auto-expand a section? Ideally, I think
>>> we should have the Documentation page expanded, and all items underneath
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Grant
>>>
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Re: Javadocs and Nightly Builds
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
I don't know, I think it is nice to have explicit links to previous
ones as well, but it is one extra click. I suspect that is the main
thing people want from previous versions so it is nice to not have to
dig deep into the Site Versions and have it right there from the
javadocs link.
-Grant
On Jan 10, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Michael Busch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> first of all: sorry for the late response!
>
> I'm not sure why we need the new javadocs page? The users can access
> the
> javadocs from old releases by using the "Site Versions" links.
>
> Can we just keep the Javadocs menu in the left navigation bar and
> rename
> it to "Lucene 2.3.0 API"?
>
> Here's a preview:
> http://people.apache.org/~buschmi/preview/
>
> -Michael
>
>
> Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>> OK, I committed some changes:
>>
>> I introduced a new page called javadocs that contains links to 2.x
>> builds of the javadocs and also tells people where to go find older
>> versions of the javadocs (pre 2.x). This is now the main link from
>> Documentation->javadocs.
>>
>> I moved the Nightly build javadocs links to the developers page
>> (Resources->Developers) and put in verbiage saying it is an
>> "Unofficial".
>>
>> I also added some more Wiki links under the Documentation->Wiki to
>> try
>> and promote some more of the Wiki pages.
>>
>> I also have some Forrest questions. Does anyone know how to make
>> it so
>> that the Documentation page is the default expanded page instead of
>> About? Similarly, how does one auto-expand a section? Ideally, I
>> think
>> we should have the Documentation page expanded, and all items
>> underneath
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Grant
>>
>
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