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Posted to users@groovy.apache.org by Russel Winder <ru...@winder.org.uk> on 2015/11/01 19:51:10 UTC
Re: About the syntax of groovy
On Fri, 2015-10-30 at 09:53 -0700, daniel_sun wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Could you tell me the following gradle code comply with the
> syntax of
> groovy? The 'task' can be a method, what about 'taskA' and
> '<<'? Thanks in
> advance.
>
> task taskA << {
> println "i'm task A"
> }
If I remember correctly, this syntax only works because Gradle applies
an AST transform to the code. The more tradition Groovy code that this
gets transformed to is:
task('taskA') << {
println "i'm task A"
}
which is pure Groovy.
Though I suspect I am now going to have to say Apache Groovy now.
> ----------- my experimental code, but failed with exceptions
> -----------------
> def task(t) {
> t()
> }
>
> task taskA << {
> println "i'm task A"
> }
> =================
> groovy.lang.MissingPropertyException: No such property: taskA for
> class:
> ConsoleScript8
>
> at ConsoleScript8.run(ConsoleScript8:5)
> ----------------------------
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Abou
> t-the-syntax-of-groovy-tp5729026.html
> Sent from the Groovy Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
--
Russel.
=============================================================================
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Re: About the syntax of groovy
Posted by Owen Rubel <or...@gmail.com>.
Ah thanks for the info :)
Owen Rubel
415-971-0976
orubel@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Greg Trasuk <tr...@stratuscom.com> wrote:
>
> The code is licensed under the Apache Software License, which is
> permissive so anyone could fork it, and of course the community is free to
> move anytime it wants, but the trademarks will have been transferred to
> Apache as part of the incubation process. They have to be, otherwise, the
> Apache Software Foundation would be unable to defend the trademarks on
> behalf of the community.
>
> That shouldn’t scare you! The point of the foundation is to have a
> corporate entity whose whole reason for existence is to support and defend
> open source projects, and whose mission is indisputably charitable. There
> is no chance that Apache is going to turn around and try to monetize the
> project (like Oracle attempted to do with Hudson, for instance). Apache’s
> governance is open and public. Groovy’s future development is in the hands
> of the new PMC, and shouldn’t be dominated by any one corporate interest
> (although corporate interests are more than welcome to contribute to the
> community and share in the products of it).
>
> The future of the Groovy name is far safer being owned by Apache than by
> anyone else.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg Trasuk
>
> > On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Owen Rubel <or...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Whoa. Apache has ownership? I thought it was just part of the foundation
> and could leave anytime it wanted.
> >
> > Owen Rubel
> > 415-971-0976
> > orubel@gmail.com
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Russel Winder <ru...@winder.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 10:55 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote:
> > > Do we have to say that? I don't recall ever saying Spring Groovy,
> > > Pivotal
> > > Groovy or VMWare Groovy ;)
> >
> > I think the point here is that Spring, VMWare, and Pivotal only ever
> > supported the project, they didn't own the product. With the move of
> > the project to the Apache Foundation, it owns the product, lock, stock,
> > and barrel. If it says (and I believe it does) that name is Apache
> > Groovy, then it is.
> >
> > > I have referenced it by saying 'it's DAMN Groovy' though :)
> >
> > I'd rather not be damned for using Groovy, Apache or otherwise. ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Russel.
> >
> =============================================================================
> > Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip:
> sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net
> > 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk
> > London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
> >
> >
>
>
Re: About the syntax of groovy
Posted by Greg Trasuk <tr...@stratuscom.com>.
The code is licensed under the Apache Software License, which is permissive so anyone could fork it, and of course the community is free to move anytime it wants, but the trademarks will have been transferred to Apache as part of the incubation process. They have to be, otherwise, the Apache Software Foundation would be unable to defend the trademarks on behalf of the community.
That shouldn’t scare you! The point of the foundation is to have a corporate entity whose whole reason for existence is to support and defend open source projects, and whose mission is indisputably charitable. There is no chance that Apache is going to turn around and try to monetize the project (like Oracle attempted to do with Hudson, for instance). Apache’s governance is open and public. Groovy’s future development is in the hands of the new PMC, and shouldn’t be dominated by any one corporate interest (although corporate interests are more than welcome to contribute to the community and share in the products of it).
The future of the Groovy name is far safer being owned by Apache than by anyone else.
Cheers,
Greg Trasuk
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Owen Rubel <or...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Whoa. Apache has ownership? I thought it was just part of the foundation and could leave anytime it wanted.
>
> Owen Rubel
> 415-971-0976
> orubel@gmail.com
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Russel Winder <ru...@winder.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 10:55 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote:
> > Do we have to say that? I don't recall ever saying Spring Groovy,
> > Pivotal
> > Groovy or VMWare Groovy ;)
>
> I think the point here is that Spring, VMWare, and Pivotal only ever
> supported the project, they didn't own the product. With the move of
> the project to the Apache Foundation, it owns the product, lock, stock,
> and barrel. If it says (and I believe it does) that name is Apache
> Groovy, then it is.
>
> > I have referenced it by saying 'it's DAMN Groovy' though :)
>
> I'd rather not be damned for using Groovy, Apache or otherwise. ;-)
>
> --
> Russel.
> =============================================================================
> Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net
> 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk
> London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
>
>
Re: About the syntax of groovy
Posted by Owen Rubel <or...@gmail.com>.
Whoa. Apache has ownership? I thought it was just part of the foundation
and could leave anytime it wanted.
Owen Rubel
415-971-0976
orubel@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Russel Winder <ru...@winder.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 10:55 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote:
> > Do we have to say that? I don't recall ever saying Spring Groovy,
> > Pivotal
> > Groovy or VMWare Groovy ;)
>
> I think the point here is that Spring, VMWare, and Pivotal only ever
> supported the project, they didn't own the product. With the move of
> the project to the Apache Foundation, it owns the product, lock, stock,
> and barrel. If it says (and I believe it does) that name is Apache
> Groovy, then it is.
>
> > I have referenced it by saying 'it's DAMN Groovy' though :)
>
> I'd rather not be damned for using Groovy, Apache or otherwise. ;-)
>
> --
> Russel.
>
> =============================================================================
> Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip:
> sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net
> 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk
> London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
>
>
Re: About the syntax of groovy
Posted by Russel Winder <ru...@winder.org.uk>.
On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 10:55 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote:
> Do we have to say that? I don't recall ever saying Spring Groovy,
> Pivotal
> Groovy or VMWare Groovy ;)
I think the point here is that Spring, VMWare, and Pivotal only ever
supported the project, they didn't own the product. With the move of
the project to the Apache Foundation, it owns the product, lock, stock,
and barrel. If it says (and I believe it does) that name is Apache
Groovy, then it is.
> I have referenced it by saying 'it's DAMN Groovy' though :)
I'd rather not be damned for using Groovy, Apache or otherwise. ;-)
--
Russel.
=============================================================================
Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net
41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk
London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
Re: About the syntax of groovy
Posted by Owen Rubel <or...@gmail.com>.
Do we have to say that? I don't recall ever saying Spring Groovy, Pivotal
Groovy or VMWare Groovy ;)
I have referenced it by saying 'it's DAMN Groovy' though :)
Owen Rubel
415-971-0976
orubel@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Russel Winder <ru...@winder.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-10-30 at 09:53 -0700, daniel_sun wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Could you tell me the following gradle code comply with the
> > syntax of
> > groovy? The 'task' can be a method, what about 'taskA' and
> > '<<'? Thanks in
> > advance.
> >
> > task taskA << {
> > println "i'm task A"
> > }
>
> If I remember correctly, this syntax only works because Gradle applies
> an AST transform to the code. The more tradition Groovy code that this
> gets transformed to is:
>
> task('taskA') << {
> println "i'm task A"
> }
>
> which is pure Groovy.
>
> Though I suspect I am now going to have to say Apache Groovy now.
>
> > ----------- my experimental code, but failed with exceptions
> > -----------------
> > def task(t) {
> > t()
> > }
> >
> > task taskA << {
> > println "i'm task A"
> > }
> > =================
> > groovy.lang.MissingPropertyException: No such property: taskA for
> > class:
> > ConsoleScript8
> >
> > at ConsoleScript8.run(ConsoleScript8:5)
> > ----------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Abou
> > t-the-syntax-of-groovy-tp5729026.html
> > Sent from the Groovy Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> --
> Russel.
>
> =============================================================================
> Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip:
> sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net
> 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk
> London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
>
>