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Posted to dev@tapestry.apache.org by Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> on 2009/02/03 16:29:18 UTC
Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Hi,
As I'm sure some of you are aware, Robert Zeigler and I have been
working on a Tapestry5-Cayenne integration module, much like the
Hibernate one. The project can be found at:
http://code.google.com/p/tapestry5-cayenne/
I've purposefully structured it such that integration into ASF
umbrella should require minimal effort. There have been requests for
this to be added to either the Cayenne or Tapestry projects proper.
It seems that Tapestry would make the best home.
I know that Tapestry360 is coming out shortly, but I think the desire
is for it to be an officially sanctioned module. I'd like to start a
discussion on adding this module to the T5 codebase and raise a vote
with the PMC if the general consensus is that it should be added. The
project could be added as either a subproject to the Tapestry space or
simply added as another module at the Tapestry top level.
Please let me know what you think.
--
Kevin
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Re: Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
Been busy today!
I've done some research and I have no problems if you want to start a
vote for Robert. That's how things get done ... just step up to the
bat and start swinging!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not really seeing any objections, but not an outpouring of support
> either, I'd like to raise the vote on this. Howard, would you rather
> see this as a incubated subproject or just treat the code as a
> contribution and add in as a new module. Robert and I are thus far
> the only contributors and both have ICLAs on file, so neither should
> be a problem.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been active with Cayenne for the past several years. I realize
>> at times that I've gone off the grid, so to speak. Alas, my work
>> situation doesn't allow me to work on either Cayenne or Tapestry
>> during work hours, so everything I do is in spare time. I've recently
>> been able to clear up my schedule and am looking to remain more active
>> with both projects. I can't say that I won't ever run into a time
>> period where I won't be able to make contributions, but I'm pretty
>> committed to both projects.
>>
>> I think the larger issue, if you will, is that it would be nice if
>> Robert were able to commit directly to the codebase. That would
>> require a vote on committer status by the PMC if the project is to be
>> brought directly up to the top-level Tapestry codebase. I think if it
>> were a subproject that he could be given permissions independently of
>> the main codebase. Having said that, Robert has long been active in
>> the Tapestry community and I wouldn't expect there to be much
>> objection to his being a committer.
>>
>> If there are any other concerns, please let me know.
>>
>> --
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My concern is about maintaining the code; there's been a pattern in
>>> the past (Tapestry 3 and 4) of people "dumping" code and
>>> dissappearing. I just want to know that there's a commitment to keep
>>> the code operational, documented and tested.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Massimo Lusetti <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>>
>>>> I've been curios about Cayenne and have been disappointed by Hibernate
>>>> recently. This help a lot in evaluating Cayenne for us which is
>>>> great! Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Massimo
>>>> http://meridio.blogspot.com
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>>>
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Re: Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Posted by Christian Edward Gruber <ch...@gmail.com>.
I'm willing to sign up for patches and fixes on this. I don't have
any documentation with Apache, but I can submit patches to Kevin or
Robert. I am still new to this code, but I have some personal
investment in it.
Christian.
On 5-Feb-09, at 22:13 , Kevin Menard wrote:
> Not really seeing any objections, but not an outpouring of support
> either, I'd like to raise the vote on this. Howard, would you rather
> see this as a incubated subproject or just treat the code as a
> contribution and add in as a new module. Robert and I are thus far
> the only contributors and both have ICLAs on file, so neither should
> be a problem.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I've been active with Cayenne for the past several years. I realize
>> at times that I've gone off the grid, so to speak. Alas, my work
>> situation doesn't allow me to work on either Cayenne or Tapestry
>> during work hours, so everything I do is in spare time. I've
>> recently
>> been able to clear up my schedule and am looking to remain more
>> active
>> with both projects. I can't say that I won't ever run into a time
>> period where I won't be able to make contributions, but I'm pretty
>> committed to both projects.
>>
>> I think the larger issue, if you will, is that it would be nice if
>> Robert were able to commit directly to the codebase. That would
>> require a vote on committer status by the PMC if the project is to be
>> brought directly up to the top-level Tapestry codebase. I think if
>> it
>> were a subproject that he could be given permissions independently of
>> the main codebase. Having said that, Robert has long been active in
>> the Tapestry community and I wouldn't expect there to be much
>> objection to his being a committer.
>>
>> If there are any other concerns, please let me know.
>>
>> --
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Howard Lewis Ship
>> <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My concern is about maintaining the code; there's been a pattern in
>>> the past (Tapestry 3 and 4) of people "dumping" code and
>>> dissappearing. I just want to know that there's a commitment to
>>> keep
>>> the code operational, documented and tested.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Massimo Lusetti
>>> <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>>
>>>> I've been curios about Cayenne and have been disappointed by
>>>> Hibernate
>>>> recently. This help a lot in evaluating Cayenne for us which is
>>>> great! Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Massimo
>>>> http://meridio.blogspot.com
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>
>>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>>>
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>>
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Re: Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Posted by Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com>.
Not really seeing any objections, but not an outpouring of support
either, I'd like to raise the vote on this. Howard, would you rather
see this as a incubated subproject or just treat the code as a
contribution and add in as a new module. Robert and I are thus far
the only contributors and both have ICLAs on file, so neither should
be a problem.
--
Thanks,
Kevin
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been active with Cayenne for the past several years. I realize
> at times that I've gone off the grid, so to speak. Alas, my work
> situation doesn't allow me to work on either Cayenne or Tapestry
> during work hours, so everything I do is in spare time. I've recently
> been able to clear up my schedule and am looking to remain more active
> with both projects. I can't say that I won't ever run into a time
> period where I won't be able to make contributions, but I'm pretty
> committed to both projects.
>
> I think the larger issue, if you will, is that it would be nice if
> Robert were able to commit directly to the codebase. That would
> require a vote on committer status by the PMC if the project is to be
> brought directly up to the top-level Tapestry codebase. I think if it
> were a subproject that he could be given permissions independently of
> the main codebase. Having said that, Robert has long been active in
> the Tapestry community and I wouldn't expect there to be much
> objection to his being a committer.
>
> If there are any other concerns, please let me know.
>
> --
> Kevin
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My concern is about maintaining the code; there's been a pattern in
>> the past (Tapestry 3 and 4) of people "dumping" code and
>> dissappearing. I just want to know that there's a commitment to keep
>> the code operational, documented and tested.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Massimo Lusetti <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>>
>>> I've been curios about Cayenne and have been disappointed by Hibernate
>>> recently. This help a lot in evaluating Cayenne for us which is
>>> great! Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Massimo
>>> http://meridio.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>
>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>>
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Re: Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Posted by Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com>.
I've been active with Cayenne for the past several years. I realize
at times that I've gone off the grid, so to speak. Alas, my work
situation doesn't allow me to work on either Cayenne or Tapestry
during work hours, so everything I do is in spare time. I've recently
been able to clear up my schedule and am looking to remain more active
with both projects. I can't say that I won't ever run into a time
period where I won't be able to make contributions, but I'm pretty
committed to both projects.
I think the larger issue, if you will, is that it would be nice if
Robert were able to commit directly to the codebase. That would
require a vote on committer status by the PMC if the project is to be
brought directly up to the top-level Tapestry codebase. I think if it
were a subproject that he could be given permissions independently of
the main codebase. Having said that, Robert has long been active in
the Tapestry community and I wouldn't expect there to be much
objection to his being a committer.
If there are any other concerns, please let me know.
--
Kevin
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My concern is about maintaining the code; there's been a pattern in
> the past (Tapestry 3 and 4) of people "dumping" code and
> dissappearing. I just want to know that there's a commitment to keep
> the code operational, documented and tested.
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Massimo Lusetti <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please let me know what you think.
>>
>> I've been curios about Cayenne and have been disappointed by Hibernate
>> recently. This help a lot in evaluating Cayenne for us which is
>> great! Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Massimo
>> http://meridio.blogspot.com
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>
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Re: Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
My concern is about maintaining the code; there's been a pattern in
the past (Tapestry 3 and 4) of people "dumping" code and
dissappearing. I just want to know that there's a commitment to keep
the code operational, documented and tested.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Massimo Lusetti <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please let me know what you think.
>
> I've been curios about Cayenne and have been disappointed by Hibernate
> recently. This help a lot in evaluating Cayenne for us which is
> great! Thanks
>
> --
> Massimo
> http://meridio.blogspot.com
>
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>
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Re: Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Posted by Massimo Lusetti <ml...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please let me know what you think.
I've been curios about Cayenne and have been disappointed by Hibernate
recently. This help a lot in evaluating Cayenne for us which is
great! Thanks
--
Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com
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Re: Adding Tapestry-Cayenne module?
Posted by Christian Edward Gruber <ch...@gmail.com>.
Kevin... Thank you. I was just trying to decide on a persistence
implementation to use, and was thinking about Cayenne again. This
will help.
Christian.
On 3-Feb-09, at 10:29 , Kevin Menard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As I'm sure some of you are aware, Robert Zeigler and I have been
> working on a Tapestry5-Cayenne integration module, much like the
> Hibernate one. The project can be found at:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/tapestry5-cayenne/
>
> I've purposefully structured it such that integration into ASF
> umbrella should require minimal effort. There have been requests for
> this to be added to either the Cayenne or Tapestry projects proper.
> It seems that Tapestry would make the best home.
>
> I know that Tapestry360 is coming out shortly, but I think the desire
> is for it to be an officially sanctioned module. I'd like to start a
> discussion on adding this module to the T5 codebase and raise a vote
> with the PMC if the general consensus is that it should be added. The
> project could be added as either a subproject to the Tapestry space or
> simply added as another module at the Tapestry top level.
>
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> --
> Kevin
>
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