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[VOTE] Apache Derby logo

This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

Rules of engagement:

- Please vote for one and only one logo.

- Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
your choice

- Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
discarded.

- The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
committers have binding votes.

- Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.

- The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos 
added later will not be considered in the vote.

- If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote 
of the top three vote getters.

- Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
Wednesday, December 7

=========================

Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).

1. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg

2. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg

3. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg

4. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg

5. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg

6. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg

7. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg

8. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg

9. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg

10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg

11. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Olav.Sandstaa" <Ol...@Sun.COM>.

10. [X]

SV: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Henrik Johansson <he...@vocab.se>.

I agree, i had no idea it was a hat before this vote
i must confess. I am not a native english speaker but
i consider my english well above average in this vast group.

4. [x]

/ Henrik

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Lars Clausen [mailto:lc@statsbiblioteket.dk]
Skickat: den 7 december 2005 09:53
Till: Derby Discussion
Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

On fre, 2005-12-02 at 22:54, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

Since an informal survey of all my coworkers indicate that *none* know
that Derby is a kind of hat, and there's too many hat references around
anyway, I'll have to vote for

> 4. [x]
>
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg

I know I'm tilting at windmills here, but I like the way #4 shows that
Derby is "The way Apache writes stuff down".

-Lars

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Lars Clausen <lc...@statsbiblioteket.dk>.

On fre, 2005-12-02 at 22:54, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

Since an informal survey of all my coworkers indicate that *none* know
that Derby is a kind of hat, and there's too many hat references around
anyway, I'll have to vote for

> 4. [x]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg

I know I'm tilting at windmills here, but I like the way #4 shows that
Derby is "The way Apache writes stuff down".

-Lars

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Brett Knight <br...@5kraces.com>.

10. [X]

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Brett Knight <br...@5kraces.com>.

10. [X]

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Kathy Saunders <ka...@mtrad.com>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
> your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  
> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff 
> vote of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
>
>
> 2. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
>
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
>
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg 
>
>
> 5. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
>
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
>
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
>
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
>
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [X ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Lance J. Andersen" <La...@Sun.COM>.


David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo f
> 10. [ x] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>
>
>

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by John Embretsen <Jo...@Sun.COM>.

Roger Dudler wrote:

> OK, I will prepare them and put them up. I think tomorrow I can
> manage this.
> 
> I will put on it an AI, EPS, PSD, The fonts, A paper with colors, A 
> package with the tiny buttons
> 
> Please tell me other things you also need.

While you are at it, do you think you can upload some PNG versions of
the logo?

I think PNG is convenient for use on web sites, in presentations, etc.,
and we avoid the compression artifacts of JPEG (which people otherwise
might use if they try to convert from any of the other formats you listed).

Thanks,

-- 
John

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Roger Dudler <rd...@iframe.ch>.

OK, I will prepare them and put them up. I think tomorrow I can manage this.

I will put on it an AI, EPS, PSD, The fonts, A paper with colors, A 
package with the tiny buttons

Please tell me other things you also need.

Roger

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

>Roger Dudler wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Thanks...
>>
>>Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
>>or place the source images?
>>    
>>
>
>Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
>committed to the Derby site svn tree.
>
>Dan.
>
>
>  
>

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.

Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
> 
>> Roger Dudler wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
>>> or place the source images?
>>
>> Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
>> committed to the Derby site svn tree.
>  
> I just closed DERBY-297 to keep the logo contest itself separate from 
> final activity.  :-)
> 
> I suggest creating a new Jira issue.

Roger,

I created DERBY-747 for this ( 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-747 ).

cheers,

  -jean

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
> Roger Dudler wrote:
> 
> 
>>Thanks...
>>
>>Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
>>or place the source images?
> 
> 
> Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
> committed to the Derby site svn tree.

I just closed DERBY-297 to keep the logo contest itself separate from 
final activity.  :-)

I suggest creating a new Jira issue.

I'll offer to incorporate it into the web site, but I think the first 
step is to get the sublines, etc. nailed down and final images in Jira.

  -jean

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.

Roger Dudler wrote:

> Thanks...
> 
> Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
> or place the source images?

Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
committed to the Derby site svn tree.

Dan.

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Roger Dudler <rd...@iframe.ch>.

Thanks...

Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload 
or place the source images?
And how should we put the new logo into the project, which steps are 
great for the project?

Greets
Roger

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

>Roger Dudler wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.
>>    
>>
>
>Congratulations on winning.
>
>Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the showcase as
>separate files?
>
>And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
>Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
>using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely. Unless
>someone from Sun points out it is ok.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan.
>
>
>  
>

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.

"You are in a long passageway with several doors. One door is marked  
LEGAL. Another is marked TRADEMARK. A third is marked LICENSING. No  
one who entered any of these doors has been seen since.

Your move?"

Craig

On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:22 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> Let me look into us using the term "Java".  It may be that ASF  
> needs to get a license to the trademark, and then it needs to say  
> "Java TM" instead of just "Java".
>
> David
>
> Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
>> Roger Dudler wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.
>> Congratulations on winning.
>> Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the  
>> showcase as
>> separate files?
>> And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
>> Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
>> using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely.  
>> Unless
>> someone from Sun points out it is ok.
>> Thanks,
>> Dan.
>> <david.vancouvering.vcf>

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

Let me look into us using the term "Java".  It may be that ASF needs to 
get a license to the trademark, and then it needs to say "Java TM" 
instead of just "Java".

David

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
> Roger Dudler wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.
> 
> 
> Congratulations on winning.
> 
> Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the showcase as
> separate files?
> 
> And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
> Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
> using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely. Unless
> someone from Sun points out it is ok.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan.
>

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.

Roger Dudler wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.

Congratulations on winning.

Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the showcase as
separate files?

And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely. Unless
someone from Sun points out it is ok.

Thanks,
Dan.

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.

Roger Dudler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me. But 
> since I saw your posts about the hat and other kinds of things, I have 
> to say something to you.
> 
> I think the main thing is that I'm actually from Switzerland and my 
> english isn't that good and well: Derby ? What's this. So I think most 
> people who don't speak english fluent, don't really link this word with 
> a special thing like a hat or a horse race event or something other.
> 
> So, the goal for the logo would be, that people who look at the skin or 
> the logo of derby, can recognize: Ah, that one I know. Ok, they don't 
> really care about what the logo is, they only recognize: Ah, I saw this 
> one in combination with the word Derby. Mission complete...

I agree with you. After all, what links an elephant with PostgreSql? 
(I've got to say that whenever I see an elephant at the zoo now I think 
of PostgreSql.)

btw, Roger, I really like the simple, elegant lines in the logo you 
produced. Thanks for contributing it.

  -jean


> The thing with the contest: Look, this content was launched in Spring 
> 04, it took a couple of month to really start the contest and the full 
> process has or would take near 1 year. So, why don't you want a 
> decision? The corporate design of the derby project should be here. 
> Something should be here. Why spend another half year or full year to 
> decide for a *little* bit better solution, when there are options here. 
> Take this time to spread the word and the logo. That's the main thing.
> 
> For me it's not important, that my submission won. My goal is to help 
> the project itself. Maybe with ideas or prototypes or whatever. Take the 
> things you like and make the best with it.
> 
> Greets
> Roger
> 
> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> 
>> OK, now the polls are *really* closd.
>>
>> The logo chosen is
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>>
>>   submitted by Roger Dudler, with 62% of the vote
>>
>> Vote Details
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
>>
>>       Francois Orsini (1)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg 
>>
>>       Lars Klausen, Henrik Johannson (2)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
>>
>>       Ryan Bobko  (1)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>>       Susan Cline, Rajesh Kartha (2)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>>
>>       Rick Hillegas, Jeff Lichtman, Samer Kanjo, David Van Couvering,
>>       Arthur Alexander, Craig Russell, Olav Sandstaa, Brett Dobbs,
>>       Jean Andersen, Ian Leslie, Myrna van Lunteren, Lance Andersen,
>>       Kathy Saunders, Jeremy Boynes, Tomohito Nakayama, Neal Dewing,
>>       Ian Leslie, Tony Seebregts, Grant Hutchison, Ramandeep Kaur,
>>       Brett Knightl (21)
>>
>> None of the above:
>>       Brian Smith, Oyvind Bakksjo, Bernt Johnsen, John Embretsen,
>>       Michelle Caisse, Andrew McIntyre, Mamta Samtoor (7)
>>
>> TOTAL VOTES: 34
>>
>> I have updated the STATUS document in the code tree to reflect this 
>> decision.
>>
>> David
>>
>> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
>>
>>> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>>>
>>> Rules of engagement:
>>>
>>> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>>>
>>> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
>>> your choice
>>>
>>> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
>>> discarded.
>>>
>>> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
>>> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but 
>>> only committers have binding votes.
>>>
>>> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>>>
>>> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  
>>> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>>>
>>> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff 
>>> vote of the top three vote getters.
>>>
>>> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
>>> Wednesday, December 7
>>>
>>> =========================
>>>
>>> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>>>
>>> 1. [ ] 
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. [ ] 
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. [ ] 
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 6. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 7. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 8. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 9. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>>>
>>> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>>>
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>>>
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>>>
>>>
>>> 11. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
>>>
>>>
> 
>

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Roger Dudler <rd...@iframe.ch>.

Hi,

Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me. But 
since I saw your posts about the hat and other kinds of things, I have 
to say something to you.

I think the main thing is that I'm actually from Switzerland and my 
english isn't that good and well: Derby ? What's this. So I think most 
people who don't speak english fluent, don't really link this word with 
a special thing like a hat or a horse race event or something other.

So, the goal for the logo would be, that people who look at the skin or 
the logo of derby, can recognize: Ah, that one I know. Ok, they don't 
really care about what the logo is, they only recognize: Ah, I saw this 
one in combination with the word Derby. Mission complete...

The thing with the contest: Look, this content was launched in Spring 
04, it took a couple of month to really start the contest and the full 
process has or would take near 1 year. So, why don't you want a 
decision? The corporate design of the derby project should be here. 
Something should be here. Why spend another half year or full year to 
decide for a *little* bit better solution, when there are options here. 
Take this time to spread the word and the logo. That's the main thing.

For me it's not important, that my submission won. My goal is to help 
the project itself. Maybe with ideas or prototypes or whatever. Take the 
things you like and make the best with it.

Greets
Roger

David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> OK, now the polls are *really* closd.
>
> The logo chosen is
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>
>   submitted by Roger Dudler, with 62% of the vote
>
> Vote Details
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
>
>       Francois Orsini (1)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg 
>
>       Lars Klausen, Henrik Johannson (2)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
>
>       Ryan Bobko  (1)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>       Susan Cline, Rajesh Kartha (2)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>
>       Rick Hillegas, Jeff Lichtman, Samer Kanjo, David Van Couvering,
>       Arthur Alexander, Craig Russell, Olav Sandstaa, Brett Dobbs,
>       Jean Andersen, Ian Leslie, Myrna van Lunteren, Lance Andersen,
>       Kathy Saunders, Jeremy Boynes, Tomohito Nakayama, Neal Dewing,
>       Ian Leslie, Tony Seebregts, Grant Hutchison, Ramandeep Kaur,
>       Brett Knightl (21)
>
> None of the above:
>       Brian Smith, Oyvind Bakksjo, Bernt Johnsen, John Embretsen,
>       Michelle Caisse, Andrew McIntyre, Mamta Samtoor (7)
>
> TOTAL VOTES: 34
>
> I have updated the STATUS document in the code tree to reflect this 
> decision.
>
> David
>
> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
>
>> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>>
>> Rules of engagement:
>>
>> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>>
>> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
>> your choice
>>
>> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
>> discarded.
>>
>> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
>> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but 
>> only committers have binding votes.
>>
>> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>>
>> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  
>> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>>
>> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff 
>> vote of the top three vote getters.
>>
>> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
>> Wednesday, December 7
>>
>> =========================
>>
>> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>>
>> 1. [ ] 
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 2. [ ] 
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 3. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 4. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 5. [ ] 
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 6. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 7. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 8. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 9. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>>
>> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>>
>>
>> 11. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
>>
>>

[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo (Take 2)

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

OK, now the polls are *really* closd.

The logo chosen is
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
   submitted by Roger Dudler, with 62% of the vote

Vote Details
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
       Francois Orsini (1)
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
       Lars Klausen, Henrik Johannson (2)
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
       Ryan Bobko  (1)

http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
       Susan Cline, Rajesh Kartha (2)

http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
       Rick Hillegas, Jeff Lichtman, Samer Kanjo, David Van Couvering,
       Arthur Alexander, Craig Russell, Olav Sandstaa, Brett Dobbs,
       Jean Andersen, Ian Leslie, Myrna van Lunteren, Lance Andersen,
       Kathy Saunders, Jeremy Boynes, Tomohito Nakayama, Neal Dewing,
       Ian Leslie, Tony Seebregts, Grant Hutchison, Ramandeep Kaur,
       Brett Knightl (21)

None of the above:
       Brian Smith, Oyvind Bakksjo, Bernt Johnsen, John Embretsen,
       Michelle Caisse, Andrew McIntyre, Mamta Samtoor (7)

TOTAL VOTES: 34

I have updated the STATUS document in the code tree to reflect this 
decision.

David

David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
> 
> Rules of engagement:
> 
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
> 
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
> your choice
> 
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
> discarded.
> 
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
> committers have binding votes.
> 
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
> 
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos 
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
> 
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote 
> of the top three vote getters.
> 
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
> Wednesday, December 7
> 
> =========================
> 
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
> 
> 1. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 2. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
> 
> 
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
> 
> 5. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
> 
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
> 
> 
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
> 
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Myrna van Lunteren <m....@gmail.com>.

 I'll toss in my vote for

10. [X]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg


Myrna

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

My apologies, I thought I had said 10am today.  I will resend the result 
at noon.

David

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> 
> 
>>The polls are closed, and here are the vote results
> 
> 
> Any reason for closing them early?
> 
> 
>>If someone wants to double-check my results, that would be appreciated,
>>but Logo 10 is a pretty solid majority...  This isn't Florida :)
> 
> 
> Looks a little like Florida, closing the vote early!
> 
> 
>>>- Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
>>>Wednesday, December 7
> 
> 
> Dan.
>

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> The polls are closed, and here are the vote results

Any reason for closing them early?

> If someone wants to double-check my results, that would be appreciated,
> but Logo 10 is a pretty solid majority...  This isn't Florida :)

Looks a little like Florida, closing the vote early!

>> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
>> Wednesday, December 7

Dan.

[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

The polls are closed, and here are the vote results

Logo Number 10 has 67% of the votes and 67% of the binding votes, and 
thus is the clear winner.  Unless there are any significant objections 
from committers, I'll go ahead and update the STATUS file to reflect 
this decision.

David

=========

Vote details:

If someone wants to double-check my results, that would be appreciated, 
but Logo 10 is a pretty solid majority...  This isn't Florida :)

1. 1 (committers: 0)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 


4. 2 (committers: 0)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg

7.  1 (committers: 0)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 


9. [ ] 3
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg

10. (these all belong together...)  18 (committers: 4)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg

None of The Above: 5 (committers: 2)

Total Votes: 27


David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
> 
> Rules of engagement:
> 
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
> 
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
> your choice
> 
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
> discarded.
> 
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
> committers have binding votes.
> 
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
> 
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos 
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
> 
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote 
> of the top three vote getters.
> 
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
> Wednesday, December 7
> 
> =========================
> 
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
> 
> 1. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 2. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
> 
> 
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
> 
> 5. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
> 
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
> 
> 
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
> 
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Lance J. Andersen" <La...@Sun.COM>.


David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo f
> 10. [ x] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>
>
>

[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

The polls are closed, and here are the vote results

Logo Number 10 has 67% of the votes and 67% of the binding votes, and 
thus is the clear winner.  Unless there are any significant objections 
from committers, I'll go ahead and update the STATUS file to reflect 
this decision.

David

=========

Vote details:

If someone wants to double-check my results, that would be appreciated, 
but Logo 10 is a pretty solid majority...  This isn't Florida :)

1. 1 (committers: 0)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 


4. 2 (committers: 0)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg

7.  1 (committers: 0)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 


9. [ ] 3
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg

10. (these all belong together...)  18 (committers: 4)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg

None of The Above: 5 (committers: 2)

Total Votes: 27


David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
> 
> Rules of engagement:
> 
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
> 
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
> your choice
> 
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
> discarded.
> 
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
> committers have binding votes.
> 
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
> 
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos 
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
> 
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote 
> of the top three vote getters.
> 
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
> Wednesday, December 7
> 
> =========================
> 
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
> 
> 1. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 2. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
> 
> 
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
> 
> 5. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
> 
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
> 
> 
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
> 
>

RE: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Samer Kanjo <sa...@kanjo.net>.

IMHO: A derby is a hat and most people, I think, know that. I don't really
mind if the representation of the hat is technically a derby or technically
some other hat or a hybrid. 

If you want to get technical based on the following link you provided...

http://www.villagehatshop.com/mens_fur_felt_wool_classics.html

Take a look at the 2 kinds of fedoras: Jaxon Diamond Crown Fedora and
Borsalino Beaver Fedora. The brim of the Jaxon looks more like a derby while
the other Fedoras do not. It looks to me like there is already confusion in
naming hats based on their physical attributes. If hat makers can't work it
out, who will?

-Samer

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Hall [mailto:derby@opxn.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:39 PM
To: Derby Discussion
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo


On Dec 3, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:

> My vote is for 10. Nice, clean, Escher-esque in the sense of not  
> quite possible but visually interesting.
>
> Craig


Maybe I'm wrong, but #10 looks more like a fedora than a derby, which  
might violate a Red Hat trademark. A derby has a distinct rigidity,  
making it flat across the bottom, with a narrow brim rounded slightly  
up all around, optionally higher on left and right than front and  
back. Fedoras are less rigid. If #10 were more obviously a derby/ 
bowler, I'd vote for it.

To see the differences...
http://www.villagehatshop.com/mens_fur_felt_wool_classics.html
http://www.hatsinthebelfry.com/page/H/CTGY/derby_bowler_hats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_hat


> On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
>
>> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>>
>> Rules of engagement:
>>
>> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>>
>> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo  
>> of your choice
>>
>> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will  
>> be discarded.
>>
>> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at http:// 
>> db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only  
>> committers have binding votes.
>>
>> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be  
>> considered.
>>
>> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.   
>> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>>
>> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a  
>> runoff vote of the top three vote getters.
>>
>> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on  
>> Wednesday, December 7
>>
>> =========================
>>
>> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>>
>> 1. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/ 
>> DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>>
>> 2. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/ 
>> DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>>
>> 3. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/ 
>> DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>>
>> 4. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/ 
>> DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>>
>> 5. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/ 
>> andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>>
>> 6. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew- 
>> derbyhat2.jpg
>>
>> 7. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew- 
>> derbyknight1.jpg
>>
>> 8. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew- 
>> derbyknight2.jpg
>>
>> 9. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>>
>> 10. [X ] (these all belong together...)
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/ 
>> derby_logo_only.jpg
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/ 
>> derby_with_text.jpg
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/ 
>> roger_full_showcase.jpg
>>
>> 11. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/ 
>> derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>>
>> <david.vancouvering.vcf>
>
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Rich Hall <de...@opxn.net>.

On Dec 3, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:

> My vote is for 10. Nice, clean, Escher-esque in the sense of not  
> quite possible but visually interesting.
>
> Craig


Maybe I'm wrong, but #10 looks more like a fedora than a derby, which  
might violate a Red Hat trademark. A derby has a distinct rigidity,  
making it flat across the bottom, with a narrow brim rounded slightly  
up all around, optionally higher on left and right than front and  
back. Fedoras are less rigid. If #10 were more obviously a derby/ 
bowler, I'd vote for it.

To see the differences...
http://www.villagehatshop.com/mens_fur_felt_wool_classics.html
http://www.hatsinthebelfry.com/page/H/CTGY/derby_bowler_hats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_hat


> On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
>
>> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>>
>> Rules of engagement:
>>
>> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>>
>> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo  
>> of your choice
>>
>> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will  
>> be discarded.
>>
>> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at http:// 
>> db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only  
>> committers have binding votes.
>>
>> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be  
>> considered.
>>
>> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.   
>> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>>
>> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a  
>> runoff vote of the top three vote getters.
>>
>> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on  
>> Wednesday, December 7
>>
>> =========================
>>
>> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>>
>> 1. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/ 
>> DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>>
>> 2. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/ 
>> DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>>
>> 3. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/ 
>> DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>>
>> 4. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/ 
>> DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>>
>> 5. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/ 
>> andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>>
>> 6. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew- 
>> derbyhat2.jpg
>>
>> 7. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew- 
>> derbyknight1.jpg
>>
>> 8. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew- 
>> derbyknight2.jpg
>>
>> 9. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>>
>> 10. [X ] (these all belong together...)
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/ 
>> derby_logo_only.jpg
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/ 
>> derby_with_text.jpg
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/ 
>> roger_full_showcase.jpg
>>
>> 11. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/ 
>> derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>>
>> <david.vancouvering.vcf>
>
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.

My vote is for 10. Nice, clean, Escher-esque in the sense of not  
quite possible but visually interesting.

Craig

On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo  
> of your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be  
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at http:// 
> db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only  
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be  
> considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.   
> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff  
> vote of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on  
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/ 
> DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>
> 2. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/ 
> DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/ 
> DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/ 
> DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>
> 5. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/ 
> andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew- 
> derbyhat2.jpg
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew- 
> derbyknight1.jpg
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew- 
> derbyknight2.jpg
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [X ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/ 
> derby_logo_only.jpg
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/ 
> derby_with_text.jpg
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/ 
> roger_full_showcase.jpg
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/ 
> derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>
> <david.vancouvering.vcf>

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by TomohitoNakayama <to...@basil.ocn.ne.jp>.

10. [*]

David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
> your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  
> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff 
> vote of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
>
>
> 2. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
>
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
>
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg 
>
>
> 5. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
>
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
>
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
>
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
>
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
>
>

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by John Embretsen <Jo...@Sun.COM>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

My vote: "None of the above".

I do *not* think all the suggestions on the list are "crap" - as a
matter of fact a few of them have very good potential - but I support
the idea (brought forward by Brian Smith) of spending more time trying
to get more people with graphics skills involved in this process. I'd
rather do this than deciding on one logo now and go through the process
of changing to another logo later.

Announcing the logo competition to some graphics communities (if this
has not been tried already), perhaps giving them some pointers to some
of the symbolism we've seen so far (this may include the hat, the
feather, the horse, etc.), might be worth the effort.

However, I *do* think Derby needs a logo in the not so distant future,
and I will definitely be able to live with either of the logos having
received votes so far.


BTW:
I won't dig too deep into the hat discussion, but I certainly heard of
demolition derby long before I heard of the hat - but I guess that's
just me ;) Demolition is probably not a good theme to include in the logo,
though...


-- 
John

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Bernt M. Johnsen" <Be...@Sun.COM>.

+1 on wait for more submissions.

Why: 

1) Derby as a hat is for me US a phenomenom, I would call at a
bowler. (I never heard of Derby as a hat before I started working with
Derby. To me Derby was a town in England, a horse race, an english
football team or a football match (or any match) between two
neighboring teams as in "a local derby").

2) I agree that alternative 10 is too close to the red hat of RedHat.

3) I would really like to see some of the other alternatives worked
   out with the same graphical quality as alt. 10

That said: Alternative 10 is *really* nice.....

-- 
Bernt Marius Johnsen, Database Technology Group, 
Sun Microsystems, Trondheim, Norway

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

It sounds like this is a vote for "none of the above" -- e.g. let's wait 
for more submissions, like Brian.

David

Oyvind.Bakksjo@Sun.COM wrote:
> Knut Anders Hatlen wrote:
> 
>>
>> Since you are a committer and have a binding vote, could you clarify
>> what you mean by this? Is it a veto or are you just expressing your
>> opinion?
> 
> 
> No, a veto would be a -1 on something. :) I'm expressing my opinion (I 
> agree with Brian Smith). Perhaps it was confusing since this thread has 
> [VOTE] in the subject.
> 
> I have the feeling that the vote we are doing is on whether we want some 
> nice, professionally looking graphics versus some home-made crap. Well 
> of course we want the nice logo. But I think the vote is a bit too much 
> about presentation and too little about content. I'd like to see more 
> hi-res, anti-aliased, professionally looking logos before making a 
> decision. Keeping the Red Hat logo in mind, I'd say "enough with the 
> hats already". :) I think it's too similar, we'll look like "the Red Hat 
> database". Also, what people associate with the word Derby varies: A 
> soccer team, a city in England, horse racing, a hat, more?
> 
> But I don't object enough to veto the logo vote. ;)
> 
> -- 
> Oyvind Bakksjo
> Sun Microsystems, Database Technology Group
> Trondheim, Norway
> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/bakksjo/

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Oy...@Sun.COM.

Knut Anders Hatlen wrote:
> 
> Since you are a committer and have a binding vote, could you clarify
> what you mean by this? Is it a veto or are you just expressing your
> opinion?

No, a veto would be a -1 on something. :) I'm expressing my opinion (I 
agree with Brian Smith). Perhaps it was confusing since this thread has 
[VOTE] in the subject.

I have the feeling that the vote we are doing is on whether we want some 
nice, professionally looking graphics versus some home-made crap. Well 
of course we want the nice logo. But I think the vote is a bit too much 
about presentation and too little about content. I'd like to see more 
hi-res, anti-aliased, professionally looking logos before making a 
decision. Keeping the Red Hat logo in mind, I'd say "enough with the 
hats already". :) I think it's too similar, we'll look like "the Red Hat 
database". Also, what people associate with the word Derby varies: A 
soccer team, a city in England, horse racing, a hat, more?

But I don't object enough to veto the logo vote. ;)

--
Oyvind Bakksjo
Sun Microsystems, Database Technology Group
Trondheim, Norway
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/bakksjo/

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Knut Anders Hatlen <Kn...@Sun.COM>.

Oyvind.Bakksjo@Sun.COM writes:

> Brian Smith wrote:
>> I am not a committer. But, I am curious about why you don't have a
>> "No Logo" option or a "Wait for more submissions" option.
>> Firstly, I think that they name "Derby" is a reference to racing,
>> which implies that the product is fast. This is a good
>> association. However, most entries seem to be based on that fact
>> that "derby" *could* also refer to a type of hat that most people
>> have absolutely no knowledge of. I don't see how this allusion to
>> obscure trivia is useful to the project. Besides that, there are
>> already major, successful open-source projects using hat logos (Red
>> Hat and Fedora). Therefore, I believe that the hat logos are all
>> fundamentally unhelpful, regardless of their impressive artistic
>> merits.
>> Secondly, it seems like this logo idea was just conceived a very
>> short time ago. The next version of Derby won't be released for some
>> time. I don't understand why these kinds of marketing decisions
>> cannot be deferred to a time closer to the release date. Since there
>> is no pressing need for a logo, I think that it makes sense to wait
>> for a really spectacular submission, even if it doesn't happen
>> immediately.
>> Thirdly, I think that you would get a much broader (and potentially
>> better) set of submissions if this was announced in forums that are
>> oriented towards graphic design. Just like I wouldn't ask the
>> population of a woodworking convention to design lingerie, I don't
>> think it is a good idea to ask a mailing list consisting almost
>> exclusively of programmers to create artwork.
>
> +1 on all of the above.

Since you are a committer and have a binding vote, could you clarify
what you mean by this? Is it a veto or are you just expressing your
opinion?

-- 
Knut Anders

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Oy...@Sun.COM.

Brian Smith wrote:
> I am not a committer. But, I am curious about why you don't have a "No 
> Logo" option or a "Wait for more submissions" option.
> 
> Firstly, I think that they name "Derby" is a reference to racing, which 
> implies that the product is fast. This is a good association. However, 
> most entries seem to be based on that fact that "derby" *could* also 
> refer to a type of hat that most people have absolutely no knowledge of. 
> I don't see how this allusion to obscure trivia is useful to the 
> project. Besides that, there are already major, successful open-source 
> projects using hat logos (Red Hat and Fedora). Therefore, I believe that 
> the hat logos are all fundamentally unhelpful, regardless of their 
> impressive artistic merits.
> 
> Secondly, it seems like this logo idea was just conceived a very short 
> time ago. The next version of Derby won't be released for some time. I 
> don't understand why these kinds of marketing decisions cannot be 
> deferred to a time closer to the release date. Since there is no 
> pressing need for a logo, I think that it makes sense to wait for a 
> really spectacular submission, even if it doesn't happen immediately.
> 
> Thirdly, I think that you would get a much broader (and potentially 
> better) set of submissions if this was announced in forums that are 
> oriented towards graphic design. Just like I wouldn't ask the population 
> of a woodworking convention to design lingerie, I don't think it is a 
> good idea to ask a mailing list consisting almost exclusively of 
> programmers to create artwork.

+1 on all of the above.

--
Oyvind Bakksjo

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.

Brian Smith wrote:

> I am not a committer. But, I am curious about why you don't have a "No
> Logo" option or a "Wait for more submissions" option.
> 
> Firstly, I think that they name "Derby" is a reference to racing, which
> implies that the product is fast. This is a good association. However,
> most entries seem to be based on that fact that "derby" *could* also
> refer to a type of hat that most people have absolutely no knowledge of.
> I don't see how this allusion to obscure trivia is useful to the
> project. Besides that, there are already major, successful open-source
> projects using hat logos (Red Hat and Fedora). Therefore, I believe that
> the hat logos are all fundamentally unhelpful, regardless of their
> impressive artistic merits.

I wonder if the Derby-hat is a United States' concept. I'm English but
live in the US, and I think I only heard about Derby hats over here.
But after living here so long, I get easily confused over what's US
English and what's British English.

Dan.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.

Brian Smith wrote:
> ... 
> Secondly, it seems like this logo idea was just conceived a very short 
> time ago. The next version of Derby won't be released for some time.

Actually the idea for a logo has been kicking around for over a year. If 
  I remember right, the suggestion was made a couple months after Derby 
started incubation.  --I'll see if I can dig up that old post.

As is the way with many of these volunteer projects, energy goes up and 
down depending on what else might be happening at the time. David had 
the itch and energy to poke the idea alive -- and I'm glad he did.

> I
> don't understand why these kinds of marketing decisions cannot be 
> deferred to a time closer to the release date. Since there is no 
> pressing need for a logo, I think that it makes sense to wait for a 
> really spectacular submission, even if it doesn't happen immediately.

It isn't a marketing decision. In my opinion, it's just plain fun.

> Thirdly, I think that you would get a much broader (and potentially 
> better) set of submissions if this was announced in forums that are 
> oriented towards graphic design. Just like I wouldn't ask the population 
> of a woodworking convention to design lingerie, I don't think it is a 
> good idea to ask a mailing list consisting almost exclusively of 
> programmers to create artwork.

Getting a logo from within the community makes it more special in my 
opinion.

--Incidently, I think we have some excellent, professional, attractive 
submissions. In fact, I'm having trouble choosing. Of course, it's 
important for you to state your opinion that you don't find any of these 
to your liking. We really do want to hear what everyone thinks.

> Finally, I don't understand why every project needs to have a logo in 
> the first place. Out of the following databases, how many of them have a 
> logo that made enough of an impression on you that you could sketch it: 
> SQL Server, DB2, Oracle, Firebird, PostgreSQL, MySQL, HSQL? Furthermore, 
> none of the API's that I use on a regular basis have any logo worth noting.

Take a look at the other Apache projects. Many have logos, though not all.

It isn't necessary -- some of us just think it would be nice.

  -jean

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

Please feel free to vote for "none of the above" if you see fit, thanks 
for catching that.

David

Brian Smith wrote:
> I am not a committer. But, I am curious about why you don't have a "No 
> Logo" option or a "Wait for more submissions" option.
> 
> Firstly, I think that they name "Derby" is a reference to racing, which 
> implies that the product is fast. This is a good association. However, 
> most entries seem to be based on that fact that "derby" *could* also 
> refer to a type of hat that most people have absolutely no knowledge of. 
> I don't see how this allusion to obscure trivia is useful to the 
> project. Besides that, there are already major, successful open-source 
> projects using hat logos (Red Hat and Fedora). Therefore, I believe that 
> the hat logos are all fundamentally unhelpful, regardless of their 
> impressive artistic merits.
> 
> Secondly, it seems like this logo idea was just conceived a very short 
> time ago. The next version of Derby won't be released for some time. I 
> don't understand why these kinds of marketing decisions cannot be 
> deferred to a time closer to the release date. Since there is no 
> pressing need for a logo, I think that it makes sense to wait for a 
> really spectacular submission, even if it doesn't happen immediately.
> 
> Thirdly, I think that you would get a much broader (and potentially 
> better) set of submissions if this was announced in forums that are 
> oriented towards graphic design. Just like I wouldn't ask the population 
> of a woodworking convention to design lingerie, I don't think it is a 
> good idea to ask a mailing list consisting almost exclusively of 
> programmers to create artwork.
> 
> Finally, I don't understand why every project needs to have a logo in 
> the first place. Out of the following databases, how many of them have a 
> logo that made enough of an impression on you that you could sketch it: 
> SQL Server, DB2, Oracle, Firebird, PostgreSQL, MySQL, HSQL? Furthermore, 
> none of the API's that I use on a regular basis have any logo worth noting.
> 
> - Brian
> 
> On 12/2/05, *David W. Van Couvering* <David.Vancouvering@sun.com 
> <ma...@sun.com>> wrote:
> 
>     This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
> 
>     Rules of engagement:
> 
>     - Please vote for one and only one logo.
> 
>     - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of
>     your choice
> 
>     - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be
>     discarded.
> 
>     - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at
>     http://db.apache.org/decisions.html
>     <http://db.apache.org/decisions.html>.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only
>     committers have binding votes.
> 
>     - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
> 
>     - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this
>     ballot.  Logos
>     added later will not be considered in the vote.
> 
>     - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote
>     of the top three vote getters.
> 
>     - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
>     Wednesday, December 7
> 
>     =========================
> 
>     Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
> 
>     1. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
> 
>     2. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>     <http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg>
> 
>     3. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
> 
>     4. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
> 
>     5. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>     <http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg>
> 
>     6. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg
> 
>     7. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
> 
>     8. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg
>     <http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg>
> 
>     9. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
> 
>     10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>     <http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg>
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
> 
>     11. [ ]
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Brian Smith <br...@gmail.com>.

I am not a committer. But, I am curious about why you don't have a "No Logo"
option or a "Wait for more submissions" option.

Firstly, I think that they name "Derby" is a reference to racing, which
implies that the product is fast. This is a good association. However, most
entries seem to be based on that fact that "derby" *could* also refer to a
type of hat that most people have absolutely no knowledge of. I don't see
how this allusion to obscure trivia is useful to the project. Besides that,
there are already major, successful open-source projects using hat logos
(Red Hat and Fedora). Therefore, I believe that the hat logos are all
fundamentally unhelpful, regardless of their impressive artistic merits.

Secondly, it seems like this logo idea was just conceived a very short time
ago. The next version of Derby won't be released for some time. I don't
understand why these kinds of marketing decisions cannot be deferred to a
time closer to the release date. Since there is no pressing need for a logo,
I think that it makes sense to wait for a really spectacular submission,
even if it doesn't happen immediately.

Thirdly, I think that you would get a much broader (and potentially better)
set of submissions if this was announced in forums that are oriented towards
graphic design. Just like I wouldn't ask the population of a woodworking
convention to design lingerie, I don't think it is a good idea to ask a
mailing list consisting almost exclusively of programmers to create artwork.

Finally, I don't understand why every project needs to have a logo in the
first place. Out of the following databases, how many of them have a logo
that made enough of an impression on you that you could sketch it: SQL
Server, DB2, Oracle, Firebird, PostgreSQL, MySQL, HSQL? Furthermore, none of
the API's that I use on a regular basis have any logo worth noting.

- Brian

On 12/2/05, David W. Van Couvering <Da...@sun.com> wrote:
>
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of
> your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote
> of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>
> 2. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>
> 3. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>
> 4. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>
> 5. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>
> 6. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg
>
> 7. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
>
> 8. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>
> 11. [ ]
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>
>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

10. [X ] (these all belong together...)

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.

Francois Orsini wrote:
> I agree with Jeremy and hence why I picked #1 submission - theme looks
> nice...I'm NOT just looking at the graphics per-se (we all know the
> graphics can be improved once a theme and design has been
> approved/voted)...A hat without a feather (i.e. Apache)  might be
> representing Derby but _not_ Apache Derby (I know am just scratching my
> itch here ;) but I wanted to mention it...content is more important than
> visual at this state and it's my own opinion...

I see your point, but the vote is for a specific logo, not a theme. If
the winner was #1, that would be the logo, we would not be waiting
around for a better graphic.

If someone subsequently supplied a better looking graphic along the same
theme, then we could adopt it, but it would be another vote. (I think).

In fact it's exactly the same if some logo wins and someone subsequently
provides a great logo with a completely different theme, Derby could
switch to that new logo, again with a vote.

I don't believe the Apache feather should be a requirement, probably
about a third of apache project logos do not include the Apache feather,
in any form.

E.g. tomcat

http://tomcat.apache.org/images/tomcat.gif

I like the way Spam Assassin includes the feather,
it's actually incorporated into the deisgn, not just "dropped in".

http://spamassassin.apache.org/images/arrowlogo.png

I think it's amusing that the only(?) Apache project with the term
graphics in its name, has, in my view, the most "busy", awkward looking
logo. :-)

http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/images/apache-xml-graphics.gif

Dan.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Francois Orsini <fr...@gmail.com>.

I agree with Jeremy and hence why I picked #1 submission - theme looks
nice...I'm NOT just looking at the graphics per-se (we all know the graphics
can be improved once a theme and design has been approved/voted)...A hat
without a feather (i.e. Apache)  might be representing Derby but _not_
Apache Derby (I know am just scratching my itch here ;) but I wanted to
mention it...content is more important than visual at this state and it's my
own opinion...

--francois

On 12/6/05, Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> > 10. [X] (these all belong together...)
> >
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
> >
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
> >
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>
> I know the list is closed but if there was a variant with a feather
> added I would prefer that (sorry, I don't have the skill to do one).
>
> --
> Jeremy
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> 10. [X] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg

I know the list is closed but if there was a variant with a feather
added I would prefer that (sorry, I don't have the skill to do one).

--
Jeremy

[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo (Take 2)

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

OK, now the polls are *really* closd.

The logo chosen is
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
   submitted by Roger Dudler, with 62% of the vote

Vote Details
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
       Francois Orsini (1)
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
       Lars Klausen, Henrik Johannson (2)
 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
       Ryan Bobko  (1)

http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
       Susan Cline, Rajesh Kartha (2)

http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
       Rick Hillegas, Jeff Lichtman, Samer Kanjo, David Van Couvering,
       Arthur Alexander, Craig Russell, Olav Sandstaa, Brett Dobbs,
       Jean Andersen, Ian Leslie, Myrna van Lunteren, Lance Andersen,
       Kathy Saunders, Jeremy Boynes, Tomohito Nakayama, Neal Dewing,
       Ian Leslie, Tony Seebregts, Grant Hutchison, Ramandeep Kaur,
       Brett Knightl (21)

None of the above:
       Brian Smith, Oyvind Bakksjo, Bernt Johnsen, John Embretsen,
       Michelle Caisse, Andrew McIntyre, Mamta Samtoor (7)

TOTAL VOTES: 34

I have updated the STATUS document in the code tree to reflect this 
decision.

David

David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
> 
> Rules of engagement:
> 
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
> 
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
> your choice
> 
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
> discarded.
> 
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
> committers have binding votes.
> 
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
> 
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos 
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
> 
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote 
> of the top three vote getters.
> 
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
> Wednesday, December 7
> 
> =========================
> 
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
> 
> 1. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 2. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
> 
> 
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
> 
> 5. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
> 
> 
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
> 
> 
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
> 
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
> 
> 
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
> 
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Myrna van Lunteren <m....@gmail.com>.

 I'll toss in my vote for

10. [X]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg


Myrna

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Francois Orsini <fr...@gmail.com>.

1. [X]

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.

My vote is for 10. Nice, clean, Escher-esque in the sense of not  
quite possible but visually interesting.

Craig

On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo  
> of your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be  
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at http:// 
> db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only  
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be  
> considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.   
> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff  
> vote of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on  
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/ 
> DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>
> 2. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/ 
> DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/ 
> DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/ 
> DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>
> 5. [ ] http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/ 
> andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew- 
> derbyhat2.jpg
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew- 
> derbyknight1.jpg
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew- 
> derbyknight2.jpg
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [X ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/ 
> derby_logo_only.jpg
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/ 
> derby_with_text.jpg
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/ 
> roger_full_showcase.jpg
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/ 
> derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>
> <david.vancouvering.vcf>

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Jeffrey Lichtman <sw...@rcn.com>.

Here's my vote:

>Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
>
>10. [X] (these all belong together...)
>http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg

                        -        Jeff Lichtman
                                 swazoo@rcn.com
                                 Check out Swazoo Koolak's Web Jukebox at
                                 http://swazoo.com/

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Michelle Caisse <Mi...@Sun.COM>.

I vote for none of the available choices.  I think that it is a serious 
issue that the use of the word Derby as a type of hat is limited to the 
U.S.; that there is no immediate need for the logo; and that extending 
the time to submit entries can provide more choice and quality.

-- Michelle

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> 
> 10. [X] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg  
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg  
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 

  -jean

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Ryan P Bobko <ry...@ostrich-emulators.com>.

7. [ X ]

On Friday 02 December 2005 04:54 pm, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of
> your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote
> of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_opti
>on1.jpg
>
> 2. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_opti
>on2.jpg
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_opti
>on3.jpg
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>
> 5. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.j
>pg
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.j
>pg
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight
>1.jpg
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight
>2.jpg
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jp
>g
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jp
>g
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcas
>e.jpg
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lette
>rsaligned.png

-- 
So I'm ugly.  So what?  I never saw anyone hit with his face.
  -- Yogi Berra

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by John Embretsen <Jo...@Sun.COM>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

My vote: "None of the above".

I do *not* think all the suggestions on the list are "crap" - as a
matter of fact a few of them have very good potential - but I support
the idea (brought forward by Brian Smith) of spending more time trying
to get more people with graphics skills involved in this process. I'd
rather do this than deciding on one logo now and go through the process
of changing to another logo later.

Announcing the logo competition to some graphics communities (if this
has not been tried already), perhaps giving them some pointers to some
of the symbolism we've seen so far (this may include the hat, the
feather, the horse, etc.), might be worth the effort.

However, I *do* think Derby needs a logo in the not so distant future,
and I will definitely be able to live with either of the logos having
received votes so far.


BTW:
I won't dig too deep into the hat discussion, but I certainly heard of
demolition derby long before I heard of the hat - but I guess that's
just me ;) Demolition is probably not a good theme to include in the logo,
though...


-- 
John

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Kathy Saunders <ka...@mtrad.com>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:

> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
> your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  
> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff 
> vote of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg 
>
>
> 2. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg 
>
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg 
>
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg 
>
>
> 5. [ ] 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg 
>
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg 
>
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg 
>
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg 
>
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [X ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 
>
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png 
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Olav.Sandstaa" <Ol...@Sun.COM>.

10. [X]

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.

David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> 
> 10. [X] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg  
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg  
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg 

  -jean

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Rajesh Kartha <ka...@Source-Zone.Org>.

Entry 10 is good, but the hat does not look like a Derby hat, hence

>
> 9. [X ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
Regards,
Rajesh

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Ryan P Bobko <ry...@ostrich-emulators.com>.

7. [ X ]

On Friday 02 December 2005 04:54 pm, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of
> your choice
>
> - Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote
> of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_opti
>on1.jpg
>
> 2. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_opti
>on2.jpg
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_opti
>on3.jpg
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>
> 5. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.j
>pg
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.j
>pg
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight
>1.jpg
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight
>2.jpg
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jp
>g
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jp
>g
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcas
>e.jpg
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lette
>rsaligned.png

-- 
So I'm ugly.  So what?  I never saw anyone hit with his face.
  -- Yogi Berra

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Mamta Satoor <ms...@gmail.com>.

I vote for none of the above too, it will be nice to have more ideas
flowing. It was hard to not vote for 10 though.

On 12/7/05, Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> > This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> I vote for none of the above. Although a couple of the entries are
> very nice, I also would like to see more refinement of the ideas
> presented.
>
> andrew
>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>.

On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

I vote for none of the above. Although a couple of the entries are  
very nice, I also would like to see more refinement of the ideas  
presented.

andrew

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.

10. [X ] (these all belong together...)

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Michelle Caisse <Mi...@Sun.COM>.

I vote for none of the available choices.  I think that it is a serious 
issue that the use of the word Derby as a type of hat is limited to the 
U.S.; that there is no immediate need for the logo; and that extending 
the time to submit entries can provide more choice and quality.

-- Michelle

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>.

On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

I vote for none of the above. Although a couple of the entries are  
very nice, I also would like to see more refinement of the ideas  
presented.

andrew

RE: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Samer Kanjo <sa...@kanjo.net>.


-----Original Message-----
From: David W. Van Couvering [mailto:David.Vancouvering@Sun.COM] 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Derby Development; Derby Discussion
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

Rules of engagement:

- Please vote for one and only one logo.

- Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
your choice

- Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
discarded.

- The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
committers have binding votes.

- Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.

- The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos 
added later will not be considered in the vote.

- If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote 
of the top three vote getters.

- Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
Wednesday, December 7

=========================

Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).

1. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_optio
n1.jpg

2. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_optio
n2.jpg

3. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_optio
n3.jpg

4. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg

5. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jp
g

6. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jp
g

7. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1
.jpg

8. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2
.jpg

9. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg

10. [X] (these all belong together...)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase
.jpg

11. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-letter
saligned.png

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Susan Cline <ho...@pacbell.net>.

Hi David,
  
  Thanks for calling for the vote.

"David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM> wrote:
9. [ X  ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg


  Susan

RE: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Neal Dewing <sy...@ecis.co.za>.

10. [x]

RE: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Samer Kanjo <sa...@kanjo.net>.


-----Original Message-----
From: David W. Van Couvering [mailto:David.Vancouvering@Sun.COM] 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Derby Development; Derby Discussion
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.

Rules of engagement:

- Please vote for one and only one logo.

- Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of 
your choice

- Please vote only once.  Multiple votes by the same person will be 
discarded.

- The vote will follow DB project guidelines at 
http://db.apache.org/decisions.html.  Anyone can cast a vote, but only 
committers have binding votes.

- Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.

- The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.  Logos 
added later will not be considered in the vote.

- If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote 
of the top three vote getters.

- Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on 
Wednesday, December 7

=========================

Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).

1. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_optio
n1.jpg

2. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_optio
n2.jpg

3. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_optio
n3.jpg

4. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg

5. [ ] 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jp
g

6. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jp
g

7. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1
.jpg

8. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2
.jpg

9. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg

10. [X] (these all belong together...)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase
.jpg

11. [ ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-letter
saligned.png

Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo

Posted by Susan Cline <ho...@pacbell.net>.

Hi David,
  
  Thanks for calling for the vote.

"David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM> wrote:
9. [ X  ]
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg


  Susan