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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by Adam Malejko <ad...@malejko.com> on 2014/04/29 02:52:41 UTC
IDE upgrade options
Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a little
while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK. Little did I
know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically possible. I have v3
and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4 premium or v4.5 standard
key which would technically work to upgrade from.
So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's time
to look at my options.
1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having to
buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds great! Even
$499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am being
forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying guide [1],
you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really looked at
the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT and
Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only starting to
write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe SDK.
3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will
that work for mobile apps?
[1]
http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/flash-builder/buying-guide.displayTab2.html
-Adam
Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Alexander Doroshko <al...@jetbrains.com>.
In case you decide to try IntelliJ IDEA you may find these quick start
guides helpful:
http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/IntelliJIDEA/Flash+Development
Embedded help will shed more light on project setup. Also available
online: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/actionscript-and-flex.html
Any questions answered quickly in the forum:
http://devnet.jetbrains.com/community/idea/ideacommunity?view=discussions
Feature requests and bug reports are welcome in the issue tracker:
http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issues/IDEA?q=%23Flash_Flex
Alexander
RE: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Adam Lang <Ad...@energyone.com.au>.
My company has 5 Flex developers, all developing blazeds style applications with IntelliJ and Apache Flex. We found that the benefits IntelliJ provides in terms of efficiency and ease of use far outweighed the few features FB has that IntelliJ doesn't. Given the quality gap between the two products we wouldn't ever consider moving back to FB.
Cheers,
Adam.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Malejko [mailto:adam@malejko.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:53 AM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: IDE upgrade options
Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a little while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK. Little did I know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically possible. I have v3 and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4 premium or v4.5 standard key which would technically work to upgrade from.
So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's time to look at my options.
1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having to buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds great! Even
$499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am being forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying guide [1], you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really looked at the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT and Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only starting to write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe SDK.
3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will that work for mobile apps?
[1]
http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/flash-builder/buying-guide.displayTab2.html
-Adam
Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Adam,
I would like to say that I have been using Intellij for 4 years occasionally
back to Flash Builder just for check how it works now. Every time I back to
Intellij, Flash Builder was slow for really big projects.
In my previous job I was one person from the team who have been used
Intellij and they have always problems with IDE I didn't.
I did migration some quite big app from Flex 4.5 to Apache Flex, developed
mobile app some time ago and I could say that Intellij works perfect in both
cases with Apache Flex.
Adam I highly recommend this IDE you won't regret. :)
Piotr
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Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Adam Malejko <ad...@malejko.com>.
Thank you all for your responses and insight.
For now, my licensing issue is cleared up, and I will continue to use FB
4.7 with Flex 4.12. If Flash Builder doesn't make any more progress,
IntelliJ IDEA will more than likely be my next IDE.
Jeffrey Houser - Even the Adobe rep's don't seem to know about that
complimentary upgrade. It is an odd situation though.
Scott Matheson - I fully agree, and might do the same; running IDEA cold
turkey on something new. Using Flex 4.12 with FB 4.6 was not difficult
though.
Alexander Doroshko - I hope you read borekb's response.
borekb - your issues with IDEA were enlightening, yet both encouraging and
discouraging.
-Adam
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Arne Brödel <ar...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> I have a full license for Flash Builder 4.7 and even though I worked with
> it a lot and didnt have any major problems I took the time to have a deeper
> look into IntelliJ.
> The IDE was a little confusing to me first but after the 30 days trial I
> was convinced enough to buy it. You might miss some wizards that were
> included in FB4.7 but in the end all those generated code brought me more
> problems than it solved. And I dont think Flash Builder will evolve any
> more but IntelliJ will.
> Its also a great IDE for Backend Java and Database stuff.
>
>
> 2014-04-29 23:43 GMT+02:00 borekb <bo...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I've been a long-time FB user and currently switched to IDEA. Here are my
> > opinions after about two months with the IDE:
> >
> > * The nicest thing about IDEA is how well it understands the actual code.
> > FB
> > was not too bad in this regards but IDEA can take you from an interface
> to
> > all the implementations in one click, suggests class names even in ASDoc
> > comments, can draw quick UML diagrams on demand etc. All very useful for
> > large projects.
> >
> > * IDEA indexes everything and is therefore very, very fast. Event full
> text
> > searches seem to use indexes, the speed is quite unrivaled.
> >
> > * I don't quite like the general usability of the IDE compared to
> Eclipse /
> > FB. The look is a bit weird, Eclipse has better windows / panels
> > management,
> > more consistent UI in many places and IDEA made some very weird design
> > decisions in the past that I don't quite understand - for instance, there
> > is
> > no Problems View so you have to hunt for different problems in different
> > places. Also, various code tooltips showing you a doc preview or method
> > signature are implemented in a weird way and this is something that has
> > annoyed me quite a bit.
> >
> > * My current project doesn't use MXML but the previous one did and I
> > remember that I didn't like the editing experience very much. Writing
> > ActionScript code is fortunately better - I find the editor itself
> > (disregarding code intelligence) still slightly worse than what is in
> > Eclipse but it's quite OK.
> >
> > * Unfortunately, IDEA renders ASDoc comments quite terribly. It doesn't
> > understand some HTML tags, will not show inherited docs by default, wraps
> > lines at strange places so the output is not a pleasure to read etc.
> Again,
> > an annoyance for day-to-day work.
> >
> > * JetBrains has an interesting approach to developing their IDEs - they
> > push
> > out new features like crazy but will not usually want to slow down a bit
> to
> > fix some deeper issues. Plus I could probably report a bug every 2-3
> hours
> > I
> > spend with IDEA which is an enormously high rate compared to the other
> > IDEs.
> > (Note, though, that I see as "bugs" even relatively minor things; the
> main
> > workflow works fine, it's just that the product is much less polished
> than
> > what I got used to with other IDEs.)
> >
> > Generally, despite some annoyances, I think that IDEA is a very good tool
> > for Flex development and would buy it again.
> >
> > Borek
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
>
Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Arne Brödel <ar...@googlemail.com>.
I have a full license for Flash Builder 4.7 and even though I worked with
it a lot and didnt have any major problems I took the time to have a deeper
look into IntelliJ.
The IDE was a little confusing to me first but after the 30 days trial I
was convinced enough to buy it. You might miss some wizards that were
included in FB4.7 but in the end all those generated code brought me more
problems than it solved. And I dont think Flash Builder will evolve any
more but IntelliJ will.
Its also a great IDE for Backend Java and Database stuff.
2014-04-29 23:43 GMT+02:00 borekb <bo...@gmail.com>:
> I've been a long-time FB user and currently switched to IDEA. Here are my
> opinions after about two months with the IDE:
>
> * The nicest thing about IDEA is how well it understands the actual code.
> FB
> was not too bad in this regards but IDEA can take you from an interface to
> all the implementations in one click, suggests class names even in ASDoc
> comments, can draw quick UML diagrams on demand etc. All very useful for
> large projects.
>
> * IDEA indexes everything and is therefore very, very fast. Event full text
> searches seem to use indexes, the speed is quite unrivaled.
>
> * I don't quite like the general usability of the IDE compared to Eclipse /
> FB. The look is a bit weird, Eclipse has better windows / panels
> management,
> more consistent UI in many places and IDEA made some very weird design
> decisions in the past that I don't quite understand - for instance, there
> is
> no Problems View so you have to hunt for different problems in different
> places. Also, various code tooltips showing you a doc preview or method
> signature are implemented in a weird way and this is something that has
> annoyed me quite a bit.
>
> * My current project doesn't use MXML but the previous one did and I
> remember that I didn't like the editing experience very much. Writing
> ActionScript code is fortunately better - I find the editor itself
> (disregarding code intelligence) still slightly worse than what is in
> Eclipse but it's quite OK.
>
> * Unfortunately, IDEA renders ASDoc comments quite terribly. It doesn't
> understand some HTML tags, will not show inherited docs by default, wraps
> lines at strange places so the output is not a pleasure to read etc. Again,
> an annoyance for day-to-day work.
>
> * JetBrains has an interesting approach to developing their IDEs - they
> push
> out new features like crazy but will not usually want to slow down a bit to
> fix some deeper issues. Plus I could probably report a bug every 2-3 hours
> I
> spend with IDEA which is an enormously high rate compared to the other
> IDEs.
> (Note, though, that I see as "bugs" even relatively minor things; the main
> workflow works fine, it's just that the product is much less polished than
> what I got used to with other IDEs.)
>
> Generally, despite some annoyances, I think that IDEA is a very good tool
> for Flex development and would buy it again.
>
> Borek
>
>
>
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> http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/IDE-upgrade-options-tp6305p6328.html
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>
RE: IDE upgrade options
Posted by borekb <bo...@gmail.com>.
I've been a long-time FB user and currently switched to IDEA. Here are my
opinions after about two months with the IDE:
* The nicest thing about IDEA is how well it understands the actual code. FB
was not too bad in this regards but IDEA can take you from an interface to
all the implementations in one click, suggests class names even in ASDoc
comments, can draw quick UML diagrams on demand etc. All very useful for
large projects.
* IDEA indexes everything and is therefore very, very fast. Event full text
searches seem to use indexes, the speed is quite unrivaled.
* I don't quite like the general usability of the IDE compared to Eclipse /
FB. The look is a bit weird, Eclipse has better windows / panels management,
more consistent UI in many places and IDEA made some very weird design
decisions in the past that I don't quite understand - for instance, there is
no Problems View so you have to hunt for different problems in different
places. Also, various code tooltips showing you a doc preview or method
signature are implemented in a weird way and this is something that has
annoyed me quite a bit.
* My current project doesn't use MXML but the previous one did and I
remember that I didn't like the editing experience very much. Writing
ActionScript code is fortunately better - I find the editor itself
(disregarding code intelligence) still slightly worse than what is in
Eclipse but it's quite OK.
* Unfortunately, IDEA renders ASDoc comments quite terribly. It doesn't
understand some HTML tags, will not show inherited docs by default, wraps
lines at strange places so the output is not a pleasure to read etc. Again,
an annoyance for day-to-day work.
* JetBrains has an interesting approach to developing their IDEs - they push
out new features like crazy but will not usually want to slow down a bit to
fix some deeper issues. Plus I could probably report a bug every 2-3 hours I
spend with IDEA which is an enormously high rate compared to the other IDEs.
(Note, though, that I see as "bugs" even relatively minor things; the main
workflow works fine, it's just that the product is much less polished than
what I got used to with other IDEs.)
Generally, despite some annoyances, I think that IDEA is a very good tool
for Flex development and would buy it again.
Borek
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RE: IDE upgrade options
Posted by ma...@usmc.mil.
If you want a fast / small IDE FlashDevelop works great. It is open source and has pretty good features, but is windows only ATM. If you want a commercial product, you'll want to choose IntelliJ IDEA. Especially since they are very active with development and responsive to user issues. You'll find them responding in the users/dev lists quite often.
-Mark
Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Scott Matheson <sm...@intralinks.com>.
I have used FB since 3 I am on 4.6 and still used visual layout 1 or 2 times a day I could live with out it
I have run IntelliJ IDEA on trial 2 times now and it is a quality product but there is a learning curve in my cases about 4 weeks
I think I will go cold turkey with my new project and move to IntelliJ IDEA unless is see a 4.8 from Adobe, otherwise it looks like FB is a legacy product ie dead no new £ to be spent on it, adobe just milk the base which they are entitled to do
Did you find 4.6 with sdk 4.12 an easy install and setup ?
Sent from my iPhone
> On 29 Apr 2014, at 06:09, "Adam Malejko" <ad...@malejko.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you for your input thus far, everyone.
>
> For a little more background, my company still develops with LCDS, with a
> plan to switch to GraniteDS. I tried the FB 4.7 trial with Flex 4.12 and
> everything with our projects 'just works' (compiles at least; regression
> aside).
>
> My gut is saying to just stick with 4.6 for now and switch to Flashdevelop
> or Intellij (me being hopeful about the latter) eventually.
>
> The speed increase (64 bit; newer compiler) and overall familiarity / lack
> of training time with Flash Builder 4.7 is appealing tho.
>
> That being said, the sales and support at Adobe is not what it used to be...
>
> -Adam
>> On Apr 28, 2014 9:46 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> Let me see if I can find some former Flex business folks and see what they
>> say.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>> On 4/28/14 5:52 PM, "Adam Malejko" <ad...@malejko.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
>>>
>>> I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a
>>> little
>>> while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK. Little did
>>> I
>>> know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically possible. I have
>>> v3
>>> and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4 premium or v4.5 standard
>>> key which would technically work to upgrade from.
>>>
>>> So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's
>>> time
>>> to look at my options.
>>>
>>> 1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having to
>>> buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds great! Even
>>> $499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am being
>>> forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying guide [1],
>>> you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
>>>
>>> 2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really looked at
>>> the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT and
>>> Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only starting to
>>> write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe SDK.
>>>
>>> 3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will
>>> that work for mobile apps?
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>> http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/flash-builder/buying-guide.displayTab2.ht
>>> ml
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>
>>
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Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Adam Malejko <ad...@malejko.com>.
Thank you for your input thus far, everyone.
For a little more background, my company still develops with LCDS, with a
plan to switch to GraniteDS. I tried the FB 4.7 trial with Flex 4.12 and
everything with our projects 'just works' (compiles at least; regression
aside).
My gut is saying to just stick with 4.6 for now and switch to Flashdevelop
or Intellij (me being hopeful about the latter) eventually.
The speed increase (64 bit; newer compiler) and overall familiarity / lack
of training time with Flash Builder 4.7 is appealing tho.
That being said, the sales and support at Adobe is not what it used to be...
-Adam
On Apr 28, 2014 9:46 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Let me see if I can find some former Flex business folks and see what they
> say.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 4/28/14 5:52 PM, "Adam Malejko" <ad...@malejko.com> wrote:
>
> >Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
> >
> >I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a
> >little
> >while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK. Little did
> >I
> >know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically possible. I have
> >v3
> >and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4 premium or v4.5 standard
> >key which would technically work to upgrade from.
> >
> >So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's
> >time
> >to look at my options.
> >
> >1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having to
> >buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds great! Even
> >$499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am being
> >forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying guide [1],
> >you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
> >
> >2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really looked at
> >the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT and
> >Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only starting to
> >write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe SDK.
> >
> >3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will
> >that work for mobile apps?
> >
> >
> >[1]
> >
> http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/flash-builder/buying-guide.displayTab2.ht
> >ml
> >
> >-Adam
>
>
Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Let me see if I can find some former Flex business folks and see what they
say.
-Alex
On 4/28/14 5:52 PM, "Adam Malejko" <ad...@malejko.com> wrote:
>Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
>
>I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a
>little
>while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK. Little did
>I
>know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically possible. I have
>v3
>and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4 premium or v4.5 standard
>key which would technically work to upgrade from.
>
>So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's
>time
>to look at my options.
>
>1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having to
>buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds great! Even
>$499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am being
>forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying guide [1],
>you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
>
>2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really looked at
>the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT and
>Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only starting to
>write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe SDK.
>
>3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will
>that work for mobile apps?
>
>
>[1]
>http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/flash-builder/buying-guide.displayTab2.ht
>ml
>
>-Adam
RE: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Saul Diaz <cr...@gmail.com>.
I like the data/services handle that FB have.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Ransom Dallas [mailto:justindallas@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 8:03 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: IDE upgrade options
I've been using IntelliJ for Flex development and I am more than satisfied.
The biggest draw of FB was the design view and then later the testing
ease. I don't think it brings enough to the table to warrant dealing with
the licensing mayhem
On Monday, April 28, 2014, Saul Diaz <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I Really wanna know why adobe don’t upgrade 4.7 anymore
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeffry@dot-com-it.com <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:22 PM
> To: users@flex.apache.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: IDE upgrade options
>
>
> On 4/28/2014 8:52 PM, Adam Malejko wrote:
> > Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
> >
> > I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a
> > little while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK.
> > Little did I know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically
> > possible. I have v3 and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4
> > premium or v4.5 standard key which would technically work to upgrade
> from.
> >
> > So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe
> > it's time to look at my options.
> >
> > 1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without
> > having to buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4
> > sounds great! Even
> > $499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am
> > being forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying
> > guide [1], you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
>
>
> Flash Builder 4.7 used to be a complimentary upgrade from 4.5/4.6 (
> http://www.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/flashbuilder47_upgade.htm
> l
> ) but it looks like they discontinued that. How odd.
>
> I bet that is the reason you can't upgrade from 4.5 premium to 4.7
> premium on their web site. They discontinued one thing w/o adding an
> option.
>
>
> > 2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really
> > looked at the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA,
> > FDT and Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only
> > starting to write mobile apps which triggered the update from the
> > Adobe
> SDK.
>
> I love IntelliJ. Although, I have never used it for Flex/Flash. But,
> it is great for HTML stuff and for other stuff.
>
>
>
> > 3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6?
> > Will that work for mobile apps?
> I have used Apache Flex w/ Flash Builder w/o issues. It hink there
> was a minor issue fixed in 4.7 that had to do with files moving from
> html-template to bin-debug.
>
>
> --
> Jeffry Houser
> Technical Entrepreneur
> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> 203-379-0773
>
>
>
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Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Justin Ransom Dallas <ju...@gmail.com>.
I've been using IntelliJ for Flex development and I am more than satisfied.
The biggest draw of FB was the design view and then later the testing
ease. I don't think it brings enough to the table to warrant dealing with
the licensing mayhem
On Monday, April 28, 2014, Saul Diaz <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I Really wanna know why adobe don’t upgrade 4.7 anymore
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeffry@dot-com-it.com <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:22 PM
> To: users@flex.apache.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: IDE upgrade options
>
>
> On 4/28/2014 8:52 PM, Adam Malejko wrote:
> > Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
> >
> > I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a
> > little while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK.
> > Little did I know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically
> > possible. I have v3 and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4
> > premium or v4.5 standard key which would technically work to upgrade
> from.
> >
> > So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's
> > time to look at my options.
> >
> > 1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having
> > to buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds
> > great! Even
> > $499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am
> > being forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying
> > guide [1], you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
>
>
> Flash Builder 4.7 used to be a complimentary upgrade from 4.5/4.6 (
> http://www.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/flashbuilder47_upgade.html
> ) but it looks like they discontinued that. How odd.
>
> I bet that is the reason you can't upgrade from 4.5 premium to 4.7
> premium on their web site. They discontinued one thing w/o adding an
> option.
>
>
> > 2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really
> > looked at the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT
> > and Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only
> > starting to write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe
> SDK.
>
> I love IntelliJ. Although, I have never used it for Flex/Flash. But, it
> is great for HTML stuff and for other stuff.
>
>
>
> > 3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will
> > that work for mobile apps?
> I have used Apache Flex w/ Flash Builder w/o issues. It hink there
> was a minor issue fixed in 4.7 that had to do with files moving from
> html-template to bin-debug.
>
>
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> Technical Entrepreneur
> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> 203-379-0773
>
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RE: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Saul Diaz <cr...@gmail.com>.
I Really wanna know why adobe don’t upgrade 4.7 anymore
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeffry@dot-com-it.com]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:22 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: IDE upgrade options
On 4/28/2014 8:52 PM, Adam Malejko wrote:
> Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
>
> I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a
> little while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK.
> Little did I know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically
> possible. I have v3 and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4
> premium or v4.5 standard key which would technically work to upgrade from.
>
> So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's
> time to look at my options.
>
> 1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having
> to buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds
> great! Even
> $499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am
> being forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying
> guide [1], you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
Flash Builder 4.7 used to be a complimentary upgrade from 4.5/4.6 ( http://www.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/flashbuilder47_upgade.html
) but it looks like they discontinued that. How odd.
I bet that is the reason you can't upgrade from 4.5 premium to 4.7 premium on their web site. They discontinued one thing w/o adding an option.
> 2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really
> looked at the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT
> and Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only
> starting to write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe SDK.
I love IntelliJ. Although, I have never used it for Flex/Flash. But, it is great for HTML stuff and for other stuff.
> 3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will
> that work for mobile apps?
I have used Apache Flex w/ Flash Builder w/o issues. It hink there
was a minor issue fixed in 4.7 that had to do with files moving from
html-template to bin-debug.
--
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
203-379-0773
Re: IDE upgrade options
Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
On 4/28/2014 8:52 PM, Adam Malejko wrote:
> Long time Flex developer and lurker; never posted - never needed to.
>
> I finally got the go-ahead to upgrade to Flash Builder 4.7 premium a little
> while ago, along with upgrading to the latest Apache Flex SDK. Little did I
> know that the Flash Builder upgrade was not technically possible. I have v3
> and v4.5 premium keys (yet use v4.6), but no v4 premium or v4.5 standard
> key which would technically work to upgrade from.
>
> So after chatting and talking to Adobe representatives, I believe it's time
> to look at my options.
>
> 1) Does anyone know how I can possibly upgrade to v4.7 without having to
> buy the full $699 v4.7 license? $49 to upgrade from v4 sounds great! Even
> $499 isn't terrible, but after sticking with them for this long I am being
> forced to buy the full version for $699? Really? In the buying guide [1],
> you see that "n/a" in there? That's me. SOL.
Flash Builder 4.7 used to be a complimentary upgrade from 4.5/4.6 (
http://www.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/flashbuilder47_upgade.html
) but it looks like they discontinued that. How odd.
I bet that is the reason you can't upgrade from 4.5 premium to 4.7
premium on their web site. They discontinued one thing w/o adding an
option.
> 2) I've used Flash Builder for many years now and haven't really looked at
> the other options until recently. How do IntelliJ IDEA, FDT and
> Flashdevelop compare from a developers perspective? I'm only starting to
> write mobile apps which triggered the update from the Adobe SDK.
I love IntelliJ. Although, I have never used it for Flex/Flash. But, it
is great for HTML stuff and for other stuff.
> 3) Should I just install the Apache Flex SDK in Flash Builder 4.6? Will
> that work for mobile apps?
I have used Apache Flex w/ Flash Builder w/o issues. It hink there
was a minor issue fixed in 4.7 that had to do with files moving from
html-template to bin-debug.
--
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
203-379-0773