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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> on 2007/03/15 23:21:25 UTC
[Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Hi all,
I'm working with good progress on a tapestry-jini project.
I posted more information about this on my blog:
http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/
This project has been written like tapestry-spring and I could easily
donate it to the Tapestry team, if interested in it.
Have a nice day,
Jérôme.
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
Here's the "shorter" version of your example:
<t:jini serviceInterface="net.jini.space.JavaSpace">
Found JavaSpace!
<table>
<tr t:type="loop" source="spaceAttributes" value="attribute">
<td><t:beaneditform object="attribute"/></td>
</tr>
</table>
<t:parameter name="serviceNotAvailable">
Oops, we could not find the Jini service!
</t:parameter>
</t:jini>
Also, throw this in your page:
<style>
DIV.t-beaneditor LABEL { width: 225px; }
</style>
tweak to fit and redo the screenshots, please.
The <t:parameter> element is used to define an anonmous block within
the body of the component and pass it as a parameter (of type Block)
all in one go.
On 3/15/07, Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working with good progress on a tapestry-jini project.
>
> I posted more information about this on my blog:
> http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/
>
> This project has been written like tapestry-spring and I could easily
> donate it to the Tapestry team, if interested in it.
>
>
> Have a nice day,
> Jérôme.
>
>
>
> --
> Jérôme BERNARD,
> Kalixia, SARL.
> http://weblog.kalixia.com
>
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
Hehe...quite right. I must've just spent too much time in that area,
at one point I think I had the small achievement of being the first
one to implement a 2 phase commit trans mgr.
Well either way, good work. I love stuff like this. It makes my nerdy
little heart all warm & fuzzy. :)
On 3/15/07, Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/15/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's pretty cool! I think we'll have to make a news item about it
> > just because.. I have to ask though, is the local lookup manager
> > configurable?
>
> Since Jini 2.x it is really easy to configure things like that:
> http://jan.newmarch.name/java/jini/tutorial/Config.xml
>
> The lookup process can be configured in a external configuration file
> which looks like some Java code :-)
>
> > I mean, if your app isn't on a network with multicast
> > enabled (almost all of them :( ), you'd need at least a little help
> > finding mahalo in many instances. (if that's what it's even called
> > anymore)
>
> Mahalo = transaction manager,
> Outrigger = bundled JavaSpace implementation,
> so I suppose you mean Reggie instead (the lookup service)?
>
> > Having it easily available would be nice, I'm not sure if it belongs
> > in Tapestry directly or as a sub-project or what...I think it's one of
> > those things we need to figure out pretty soon though.
>
> Going to answer this question on the next post of this thread :-)
>
> > The most obvious question people will have if I make a news item is
> > "well, where is it then? "
>
> I need to polish this thing a bit, but it should be released quite
> soon (probably early next week)..
>
>
>
> Jérôme.
>
>
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> Kalixia, SARL.
> http://weblog.kalixia.com
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com>.
On 3/15/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's pretty cool! I think we'll have to make a news item about it
> just because.. I have to ask though, is the local lookup manager
> configurable?
Since Jini 2.x it is really easy to configure things like that:
http://jan.newmarch.name/java/jini/tutorial/Config.xml
The lookup process can be configured in a external configuration file
which looks like some Java code :-)
> I mean, if your app isn't on a network with multicast
> enabled (almost all of them :( ), you'd need at least a little help
> finding mahalo in many instances. (if that's what it's even called
> anymore)
Mahalo = transaction manager,
Outrigger = bundled JavaSpace implementation,
so I suppose you mean Reggie instead (the lookup service)?
> Having it easily available would be nice, I'm not sure if it belongs
> in Tapestry directly or as a sub-project or what...I think it's one of
> those things we need to figure out pretty soon though.
Going to answer this question on the next post of this thread :-)
> The most obvious question people will have if I make a news item is
> "well, where is it then? "
I need to polish this thing a bit, but it should be released quite
soon (probably early next week)..
Jérôme.
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Kalixia, SARL.
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Andreas Andreou <an...@di.uoa.gr>.
I wouldn't tie tacos to ajax that closely...
Renaming tacos-core to tacos-ajax and adding a whole bunch of new modules
+ a few more devs is certainly a way forward. I guess Viktor can help with
the accounts,
or perhaps give us access to do that.
Tacos already has 4 and 4.1 specific sections. So, why not join?
On 3/16/07, Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jérôme BERNARD wrote:
> > On 3/16/07, Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I've been thinking a little about the fact that Tapestry doesn't really
> >> have a place for the general community to use as a home for components,
> >> services and Tapestry related stuff that may be useful to others.
> >>
> >> I think this is why tapestry-contrib was created, but it being under
> >> Apache it doesn't really provide the freedom for the general community
> >> to join as developers and really get theirs hands dirty.
> >> So, i'm thinking something like a new project hosted in sourceforge or
> >> javaforge or something like that. The project should be managed by a
> >> Tapestry developer. Still, everyone that wanted to contribute, like
> >> Jerome, would be made a developer and would access to svn. I have some
> >> ideas on this but before i share them, does this sound stupid ?
> >
> > No. Sounds fine.
> > Maybe create a specific T4, T4.1 and T5 sections though so that users
> > can figure out which components they can use.
> That's the idea. Special conventions and infrastructure would have to be
> built to allow this to work correctly.
> >
> >> PS - Sorry for stealing the thread....
> >
> > No problem, after all, even though I can host my work on my own
> > servers, an "official" home for this puppy would probably be better
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > Jérôme
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com>.
Jérôme BERNARD wrote:
> On 3/16/07, Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been thinking a little about the fact that Tapestry doesn't really
>> have a place for the general community to use as a home for components,
>> services and Tapestry related stuff that may be useful to others.
>>
>> I think this is why tapestry-contrib was created, but it being under
>> Apache it doesn't really provide the freedom for the general community
>> to join as developers and really get theirs hands dirty.
>> So, i'm thinking something like a new project hosted in sourceforge or
>> javaforge or something like that. The project should be managed by a
>> Tapestry developer. Still, everyone that wanted to contribute, like
>> Jerome, would be made a developer and would access to svn. I have some
>> ideas on this but before i share them, does this sound stupid ?
>
> No. Sounds fine.
> Maybe create a specific T4, T4.1 and T5 sections though so that users
> can figure out which components they can use.
That's the idea. Special conventions and infrastructure would have to be
built to allow this to work correctly.
>
>> PS - Sorry for stealing the thread....
>
> No problem, after all, even though I can host my work on my own
> servers, an "official" home for this puppy would probably be better
> :-)
>
>
> Jérôme
>
>
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com>.
On 3/16/07, Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been thinking a little about the fact that Tapestry doesn't really
> have a place for the general community to use as a home for components,
> services and Tapestry related stuff that may be useful to others.
>
> I think this is why tapestry-contrib was created, but it being under
> Apache it doesn't really provide the freedom for the general community
> to join as developers and really get theirs hands dirty.
> So, i'm thinking something like a new project hosted in sourceforge or
> javaforge or something like that. The project should be managed by a
> Tapestry developer. Still, everyone that wanted to contribute, like
> Jerome, would be made a developer and would access to svn. I have some
> ideas on this but before i share them, does this sound stupid ?
No. Sounds fine.
Maybe create a specific T4, T4.1 and T5 sections though so that users
can figure out which components they can use.
> PS - Sorry for stealing the thread....
No problem, after all, even though I can host my work on my own
servers, an "official" home for this puppy would probably be better
:-)
Jérôme
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com>.
Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> I think it sounds like a fine idea...Though I wouldn't want it to
> become too closely tied to Tapestry as that could have the opposite
> effect of making people feel like they are competing with the
> framework / developers or something similar.
I agree. The scope and goal of the project would have to be very clear
to everyone.
>
> No offense to javaforge or anything, but as long as it's not them it
> sounds like a tentatively reasonable idea...Though who is going to
> manage this project is another question entirely. (I don't have time
> definitely.)
Maybe a future post to the dev list asking for opinions and volunteers
would be the best option.
>
> There's Tacos too, but I don't actually have sourceforge permissions
> to add people as developers so I'd be useless in that capacity.
Tacos goal is a little more strict than what we're talking about here.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Tacos all about AJAX components ?
>
> On 3/15/07, Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been thinking a little about the fact that Tapestry doesn't really
>> have a place for the general community to use as a home for components,
>> services and Tapestry related stuff that may be useful to others.
>>
>> I think this is why tapestry-contrib was created, but it being under
>> Apache it doesn't really provide the freedom for the general community
>> to join as developers and really get theirs hands dirty.
>> So, i'm thinking something like a new project hosted in sourceforge or
>> javaforge or something like that. The project should be managed by a
>> Tapestry developer. Still, everyone that wanted to contribute, like
>> Jerome, would be made a developer and would access to svn. I have some
>> ideas on this but before i share them, does this sound stupid ?
>>
>> PS - Sorry for stealing the thread....
>>
>> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
>> > That's pretty cool! I think we'll have to make a news item about it
>> > just because.. I have to ask though, is the local lookup manager
>> > configurable? I mean, if your app isn't on a network with multicast
>> > enabled (almost all of them :( ), you'd need at least a little help
>> > finding mahalo in many instances. (if that's what it's even called
>> > anymore)
>> >
>> > Having it easily available would be nice, I'm not sure if it belongs
>> > in Tapestry directly or as a sub-project or what...I think it's one of
>> > those things we need to figure out pretty soon though.
>> >
>> > The most obvious question people will have if I make a news item is
>> > "well, where is it then? "
>> >
>> > On 3/15/07, Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I'm working with good progress on a tapestry-jini project.
>> >>
>> >> I posted more information about this on my blog:
>> >>
>> http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This project has been written like tapestry-spring and I could easily
>> >> donate it to the Tapestry team, if interested in it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Have a nice day,
>> >> Jérôme.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jérôme BERNARD,
>> >> Kalixia, SARL.
>> >> http://weblog.kalixia.com
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
I think it sounds like a fine idea...Though I wouldn't want it to
become too closely tied to Tapestry as that could have the opposite
effect of making people feel like they are competing with the
framework / developers or something similar.
No offense to javaforge or anything, but as long as it's not them it
sounds like a tentatively reasonable idea...Though who is going to
manage this project is another question entirely. (I don't have time
definitely.)
There's Tacos too, but I don't actually have sourceforge permissions
to add people as developers so I'd be useless in that capacity.
On 3/15/07, Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been thinking a little about the fact that Tapestry doesn't really
> have a place for the general community to use as a home for components,
> services and Tapestry related stuff that may be useful to others.
>
> I think this is why tapestry-contrib was created, but it being under
> Apache it doesn't really provide the freedom for the general community
> to join as developers and really get theirs hands dirty.
> So, i'm thinking something like a new project hosted in sourceforge or
> javaforge or something like that. The project should be managed by a
> Tapestry developer. Still, everyone that wanted to contribute, like
> Jerome, would be made a developer and would access to svn. I have some
> ideas on this but before i share them, does this sound stupid ?
>
> PS - Sorry for stealing the thread....
>
> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> > That's pretty cool! I think we'll have to make a news item about it
> > just because.. I have to ask though, is the local lookup manager
> > configurable? I mean, if your app isn't on a network with multicast
> > enabled (almost all of them :( ), you'd need at least a little help
> > finding mahalo in many instances. (if that's what it's even called
> > anymore)
> >
> > Having it easily available would be nice, I'm not sure if it belongs
> > in Tapestry directly or as a sub-project or what...I think it's one of
> > those things we need to figure out pretty soon though.
> >
> > The most obvious question people will have if I make a news item is
> > "well, where is it then? "
> >
> > On 3/15/07, Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm working with good progress on a tapestry-jini project.
> >>
> >> I posted more information about this on my blog:
> >> http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/
> >>
> >>
> >> This project has been written like tapestry-spring and I could easily
> >> donate it to the Tapestry team, if interested in it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Have a nice day,
> >> Jérôme.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jérôme BERNARD,
> >> Kalixia, SARL.
> >> http://weblog.kalixia.com
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com>.
I've been thinking a little about the fact that Tapestry doesn't really
have a place for the general community to use as a home for components,
services and Tapestry related stuff that may be useful to others.
I think this is why tapestry-contrib was created, but it being under
Apache it doesn't really provide the freedom for the general community
to join as developers and really get theirs hands dirty.
So, i'm thinking something like a new project hosted in sourceforge or
javaforge or something like that. The project should be managed by a
Tapestry developer. Still, everyone that wanted to contribute, like
Jerome, would be made a developer and would access to svn. I have some
ideas on this but before i share them, does this sound stupid ?
PS - Sorry for stealing the thread....
Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> That's pretty cool! I think we'll have to make a news item about it
> just because.. I have to ask though, is the local lookup manager
> configurable? I mean, if your app isn't on a network with multicast
> enabled (almost all of them :( ), you'd need at least a little help
> finding mahalo in many instances. (if that's what it's even called
> anymore)
>
> Having it easily available would be nice, I'm not sure if it belongs
> in Tapestry directly or as a sub-project or what...I think it's one of
> those things we need to figure out pretty soon though.
>
> The most obvious question people will have if I make a news item is
> "well, where is it then? "
>
> On 3/15/07, Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm working with good progress on a tapestry-jini project.
>>
>> I posted more information about this on my blog:
>> http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/
>>
>>
>> This project has been written like tapestry-spring and I could easily
>> donate it to the Tapestry team, if interested in it.
>>
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>> Jérôme.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jérôme BERNARD,
>> Kalixia, SARL.
>> http://weblog.kalixia.com
>>
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>>
>
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
That's pretty cool! I think we'll have to make a news item about it
just because.. I have to ask though, is the local lookup manager
configurable? I mean, if your app isn't on a network with multicast
enabled (almost all of them :( ), you'd need at least a little help
finding mahalo in many instances. (if that's what it's even called
anymore)
Having it easily available would be nice, I'm not sure if it belongs
in Tapestry directly or as a sub-project or what...I think it's one of
those things we need to figure out pretty soon though.
The most obvious question people will have if I make a news item is
"well, where is it then? "
On 3/15/07, Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working with good progress on a tapestry-jini project.
>
> I posted more information about this on my blog:
> http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/
>
> This project has been written like tapestry-spring and I could easily
> donate it to the Tapestry team, if interested in it.
>
>
> Have a nice day,
> Jérôme.
>
>
>
> --
> Jérôme BERNARD,
> Kalixia, SARL.
> http://weblog.kalixia.com
>
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Re: [Tap5] Integration between Tapestry and Jini
Posted by Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com>.
Answering a comment Howard put on my blog
(http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/#comment-1470):
Regarding the use of BeanEditForm, it's completely useless in my
example. Just wanted to increase the WFPLOC (Whoah Factor Per Lines Of
Code -- TM :-) ).
What I'd like to be able to do in the future is:
- use AJAX so that when the stale service become available again, the
UI automatically updates,
- use some principles of ServiceUI
(http://www.artima.com/jini/serviceui/) so that I can attach UI to
Jini services as attributes (probably indicating which JARs contain
Tapestry components).
Thanks,
Jérôme.
On 3/15/07, Jérôme BERNARD <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working with good progress on a tapestry-jini project.
>
> I posted more information about this on my blog:
> http://weblog.kalixia.com/archives/2007/03/16/integration-between-tapestry-5-and-jini/
>
> This project has been written like tapestry-spring and I could easily
> donate it to the Tapestry team, if interested in it.
>
>
> Have a nice day,
> Jérôme.
--
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Kalixia, SARL.
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