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Posted to users@maven.apache.org by Mi...@swissre.com on 2006/03/27 12:25:45 UTC
How to transit from Maven 1.0.2 to Maven 2 , what is the role of Maven 1.x
?
To whom may concern,
A general consideration on this topic: that I believe to be a general
problem.
Any of us which have for whatever reason done an investment in Maven 1.0.2,
pretty heavy as
in our case , are at moment in a kind of Limbo.
We found inherent bugs in the Maven 1.0.2, that is not know where and if
will be solved : namely memory leak due to buggy version of Jelly libraries
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVEN-1294. That for small project is not
visible but when you start using multiprojects of more then 20 components
and
run reports and use the dashboard for aggregating the results than you hit
the upper physical memory management of the JDKs ...
On the other side that bug is claimed to be solved since Maven 1.1-Beta and
as Maven 1.1 claims to be backward compatible that would be the natural
next try ....
But there you find that the Entities are no longer supported ..... show
stopper :-(
I understand the new concept implemented in Maven 2.x ... and it makes
definitely sense ... but we need a sort of continuous support to maintain
our investment ... and on the other side a big bang migration is not in
scope when in your landscape you have more than 50 application to mantain.
A simple solution would be to allow those which have such a need to move
to Maven 1.1 and still using entities ... knowing anyway that if a
restructuring is needed Maven 2 is there ....another solution could be to
fix the Jelly problem directly in the 1.0.x stream ?
Any help to clarify those points will be greatly accepted ...
Best Regards
Michele
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Re: How to transit from Maven 1.0.2 to Maven 2 , what is the role of Maven 1.x ?
Posted by Wayne Fay <wa...@gmail.com>.
I don't use M1 at all, so take this for what its worth...
Is there a reason you cannot download the Maven 1.0.2 sources from
SVN, update the Jelly libraries to eliminate the memory leak issue,
and produce your own internal 1.0.3 version? I don't know how much
work it would be to update the libraries, but assuming the API didn't
change, this might be a simple thing (?).
I strongly doubt you will get any substantial support on M102 at this
time from anyone outside of your own organization.
Wayne
On 3/27/06, Michele_Forte@swissre.com <Mi...@swissre.com> wrote:
> Hello Arnaud,
>
> Thanks for the kind and sincere answer .... We all unfortunately must
> compromise resources and feutures ... If you could drive us to the point
> where we could mantain at least this level of compatibility that we require
> that would be very much appreciated ...
>
> Best Regards
>
> Michele
>
>
>
> "Arnaud HERITIER"
> <aheritier@gmail.co
> m>
>
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> 27/03/2006 13:38
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> Hi Michele,
>
> This is essentially a problem of ressources.
> We try with with very few developers to release a version 1.1 as much
> compatible as possible but it's not really easy.
> We know that the fact to remove is support of entities is really annoying
> but we didn't yet find an easy solution to maintain it.
> If your interesting to help us, you're welcome...
> Personally I don't have the time to maintain a new 1.0.X branch...
> There's a lot of enhancements in the version 1.1 and I prefer that we work
> together on a fix for this version.
>
> Cheers
>
> Arnaud
>
>
>
>
> On 3/27/06, Michele_Forte@swissre.com <Mi...@swissre.com> wrote:
> >
> > To whom may concern,
> >
> > A general consideration on this topic: that I believe to be a general
> > problem.
> > Any of us which have for whatever reason done an investment in Maven
> 1.0.2
> > ,
> > pretty heavy as
> > in our case , are at moment in a kind of Limbo.
> >
> > We found inherent bugs in the Maven 1.0.2, that is not know where and if
> > will be solved : namely memory leak due to buggy version of Jelly
> > libraries
> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVEN-1294. That for small project is not
> > visible but when you start using multiprojects of more then 20 components
> > and
> > run reports and use the dashboard for aggregating the results than you
> hit
> > the upper physical memory management of the JDKs ...
> > On the other side that bug is claimed to be solved since Maven
> 1.1-Betaand
> > as Maven 1.1 claims to be backward compatible that would be the natural
> > next try ....
> >
> > But there you find that the Entities are no longer supported ..... show
> > stopper :-(
> >
> > I understand the new concept implemented in Maven 2.x ... and it makes
> > definitely sense ... but we need a sort of continuous support to maintain
> > our investment ... and on the other side a big bang migration is not in
> > scope when in your landscape you have more than 50 application to
> mantain.
> >
> > A simple solution would be to allow those which have such a need to move
> > to Maven 1.1 and still using entities ... knowing anyway that if a
> > restructuring is needed Maven 2 is there ....another solution could be to
> > fix the Jelly problem directly in the 1.0.x stream ?
> >
> > Any help to clarify those points will be greatly accepted ...
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Michele
> >
> >
> >
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Re: How to transit from Maven 1.0.2 to Maven 2 , what is the role of Maven
1.x ?
Posted by Mi...@swissre.com.
Hello Arnaud,
Thanks for the kind and sincere answer .... We all unfortunately must
compromise resources and feutures ... If you could drive us to the point
where we could mantain at least this level of compatibility that we require
that would be very much appreciated ...
Best Regards
Michele
"Arnaud HERITIER"
<aheritier@gmail.co
m>
27/03/2006 13:38
Please respond to
"Maven Users List" To
<users@maven.apache "Maven Users List" <us...@maven.apache.org>
.org> cc
Subject
Re: How to transit from Maven 1.0.2 to Maven 2 , what is the role of Maven 1.x ?
Hi Michele,
This is essentially a problem of ressources.
We try with with very few developers to release a version 1.1 as much
compatible as possible but it's not really easy.
We know that the fact to remove is support of entities is really annoying
but we didn't yet find an easy solution to maintain it.
If your interesting to help us, you're welcome...
Personally I don't have the time to maintain a new 1.0.X branch...
There's a lot of enhancements in the version 1.1 and I prefer that we work
together on a fix for this version.
Cheers
Arnaud
On 3/27/06, Michele_Forte@swissre.com <Mi...@swissre.com> wrote:
>
> To whom may concern,
>
> A general consideration on this topic: that I believe to be a general
> problem.
> Any of us which have for whatever reason done an investment in Maven
1.0.2
> ,
> pretty heavy as
> in our case , are at moment in a kind of Limbo.
>
> We found inherent bugs in the Maven 1.0.2, that is not know where and if
> will be solved : namely memory leak due to buggy version of Jelly
> libraries
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVEN-1294. That for small project is not
> visible but when you start using multiprojects of more then 20 components
> and
> run reports and use the dashboard for aggregating the results than you
hit
> the upper physical memory management of the JDKs ...
> On the other side that bug is claimed to be solved since Maven
1.1-Betaand
> as Maven 1.1 claims to be backward compatible that would be the natural
> next try ....
>
> But there you find that the Entities are no longer supported ..... show
> stopper :-(
>
> I understand the new concept implemented in Maven 2.x ... and it makes
> definitely sense ... but we need a sort of continuous support to maintain
> our investment ... and on the other side a big bang migration is not in
> scope when in your landscape you have more than 50 application to
mantain.
>
> A simple solution would be to allow those which have such a need to move
> to Maven 1.1 and still using entities ... knowing anyway that if a
> restructuring is needed Maven 2 is there ....another solution could be to
> fix the Jelly problem directly in the 1.0.x stream ?
>
> Any help to clarify those points will be greatly accepted ...
>
> Best Regards
>
> Michele
>
>
>
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Re: How to transit from Maven 1.0.2 to Maven 2 , what is the role of Maven 1.x ?
Posted by Arnaud HERITIER <ah...@gmail.com>.
Hi Michele,
This is essentially a problem of ressources.
We try with with very few developers to release a version 1.1 as much
compatible as possible but it's not really easy.
We know that the fact to remove is support of entities is really annoying
but we didn't yet find an easy solution to maintain it.
If your interesting to help us, you're welcome...
Personally I don't have the time to maintain a new 1.0.X branch...
There's a lot of enhancements in the version 1.1 and I prefer that we work
together on a fix for this version.
Cheers
Arnaud
On 3/27/06, Michele_Forte@swissre.com <Mi...@swissre.com> wrote:
>
> To whom may concern,
>
> A general consideration on this topic: that I believe to be a general
> problem.
> Any of us which have for whatever reason done an investment in Maven 1.0.2
> ,
> pretty heavy as
> in our case , are at moment in a kind of Limbo.
>
> We found inherent bugs in the Maven 1.0.2, that is not know where and if
> will be solved : namely memory leak due to buggy version of Jelly
> libraries
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVEN-1294. That for small project is not
> visible but when you start using multiprojects of more then 20 components
> and
> run reports and use the dashboard for aggregating the results than you hit
> the upper physical memory management of the JDKs ...
> On the other side that bug is claimed to be solved since Maven 1.1-Betaand
> as Maven 1.1 claims to be backward compatible that would be the natural
> next try ....
>
> But there you find that the Entities are no longer supported ..... show
> stopper :-(
>
> I understand the new concept implemented in Maven 2.x ... and it makes
> definitely sense ... but we need a sort of continuous support to maintain
> our investment ... and on the other side a big bang migration is not in
> scope when in your landscape you have more than 50 application to mantain.
>
> A simple solution would be to allow those which have such a need to move
> to Maven 1.1 and still using entities ... knowing anyway that if a
> restructuring is needed Maven 2 is there ....another solution could be to
> fix the Jelly problem directly in the 1.0.x stream ?
>
> Any help to clarify those points will be greatly accepted ...
>
> Best Regards
>
> Michele
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including attachments, is intended for the person(s) or
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