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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Markus Heussen <he...@asspaxx.de> on 2005/01/02 14:17:41 UTC
Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Hi!
Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user
(web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a new
project starting next week we need such a tool to define our business
processes consisting off several Web Service calls.
One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at
http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/.
Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free
alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we
would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago.
Thanks for any hint!
Markus
Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by Ben Anderson <be...@gmail.com>.
The verdict - enhydra shark rules! If you're looking into workflow -
definitely check out shark.
-Ben
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Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by Ben Anderson <be...@gmail.com>.
Oliver,
Thanks for the input...
> van der Aalst?
actually I've got his paper open right now, but haven't finished it yet.
> there is *NO* standard BPM language
My jury is still out on this (xpdl)... I haven't made my yet through
the entire spec yet.
> Did you consider this in your search, or do you think that's overdone?
consider what ?
this excerpt from Baeyens' "state of workflow" paper?
<insert resource="http://www.jbpm.org/state.of.workflow.html">
Why the term 'activity' should be banned...
Process definitions are usually expressed in terms of activities. I
think *that* is the main reason of all the confusion in the workflow
space and therefore a bad idea. I'll tell you why: the term activity
blurs the distinction between a state and an action. A state (aka
wait-state) in a process specifies a dependency upon an external
actor. At process execution time, this means that the workflow engine
has to wait until the external actor notifies the WFMS that the state
is finished. E.g. waiting for an approval. An action is a piece of
programming logic to be executed by the WFMS upon a specified event
that occurs during process execution. The WFMS initiates the execution
of the action on a specified event during process execution. E.g.
sending an email when a state is assigned to an actor. As you can see,
state and actions are really different so using the same name for
these concepts is a bad habit. My proposal is to avoid the term
'activity' and replace it by either 'state' or 'action'.
</insert>
I'm assuming this is what you mean when you say petri nets are at the
core. I understand where he's coming from and states/actions seems a
little more intuitive than activities, but I don't see this as a major
problem like he does. Again the jury's still out on this in my mind.
I have yet to fully evaluate shark, and that's my main reasoning
behind investigating xpdl.
-Ben
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Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by Ben Anderson <be...@gmail.com>.
we've actually been evaluating open source workflow engines. I
focused on osworkflow for a while and was rather indifferent about it
and have now (just the last day) started investigating enhydra shark.
So far, it seems to be the best, but I haven't played with it too much
yet.
-Ben
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:13:52 +0100, oliver charlet
<ol...@form4.de> wrote:
> Hi Markus,
>
> it is a late answer, but if you did not yet make up your mind about an
> BPM Tool - this is a very serious desicion to do - , go to
> http://www.jbpm.org and check the extensive sources about the subject.
> Although the site is about one solution, that is more and more mentioned
> as to be the most promissing, I suggest, that you follow some of the
> discussions you can find there under
> http://www.jbpm.org/state.of.workflow.html. Check the links at the end
> of this article to get more opinions.
> For me the most important conclusion is, that it is important to
> understand, that there is *NO* standard BPM language at the moment. Most
> of the existing (XML) languages
> are not really sufficiant enough to be a real standard.
>
> good look,
> :olli
>
> Markus Heussen schrieb:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user
> > (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a
> > new project starting next week we need such a tool to define our
> > business processes consisting off several Web Service calls.
> >
> > One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at
> > http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/.
> >
> > Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free
> > alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we
> > would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago.
> >
> > Thanks for any hint!
> >
> > Markus
> >
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Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by Markus Heussen <he...@asspaxx.de>.
Hi all,
thanks for all your answers at this time. Meanwhile we analyse different
Open Source implementations of the BPEL "standard". We know that there
are different specifications of business process languages. But from our
point of view the only relevant to become a general standard ist BPEL
that is a mix between IBM and Microsoft specification. Almost any
commercial BPMS tool implements this standard too.
For anyone who is interested in this topic there is another Open Source
tool that implements the BPEL standard that is called ActiveBPEL
(http://www.activebpel.org).
Markus
oliver charlet schrieb:
> Hi Markus,
>
> it is a late answer, but if you did not yet make up your mind about an
> BPM Tool - this is a very serious desicion to do - , go to
> http://www.jbpm.org and check the extensive sources about the subject.
> Although the site is about one solution, that is more and more mentioned
> as to be the most promissing, I suggest, that you follow some of the
> discussions you can find there under
> http://www.jbpm.org/state.of.workflow.html. Check the links at the end
> of this article to get more opinions.
> For me the most important conclusion is, that it is important to
> understand, that there is *NO* standard BPM language at the moment. Most
> of the existing (XML) languages
> are not really sufficiant enough to be a real standard.
>
> good look,
> :olli
>
>
>
> Markus Heussen schrieb:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user
>> (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a
>> new project starting next week we need such a tool to define our
>> business processes consisting off several Web Service calls.
>>
>> One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at
>> http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/.
>>
>> Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free
>> alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we
>> would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago.
>>
>> Thanks for any hint!
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
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Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by oliver charlet <ol...@form4.de>.
Hi Markus,
it is a late answer, but if you did not yet make up your mind about an
BPM Tool - this is a very serious desicion to do - , go to
http://www.jbpm.org and check the extensive sources about the subject.
Although the site is about one solution, that is more and more mentioned
as to be the most promissing, I suggest, that you follow some of the
discussions you can find there under
http://www.jbpm.org/state.of.workflow.html. Check the links at the end
of this article to get more opinions.
For me the most important conclusion is, that it is important to
understand, that there is *NO* standard BPM language at the moment. Most
of the existing (XML) languages
are not really sufficiant enough to be a real standard.
good look,
:olli
Markus Heussen schrieb:
> Hi!
>
> Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user
> (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a
> new project starting next week we need such a tool to define our
> business processes consisting off several Web Service calls.
>
> One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at
> http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/.
>
> Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free
> alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we
> would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago.
>
> Thanks for any hint!
>
> Markus
>
>
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
News Hunter wrote:
> where can i find the tested configuration?
You need to get a subversion client, e.g. tortoisesvn.tigris.org, and
then use it to get download the latest source from subversion, from
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/
a brief answer, but I hope it helps.
Regards, upayavira
>
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> To: <us...@cocoon.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
>
>
>> News Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> Can i use cocoon 2.1.6 with jre1.5 and fresh install of tomcat 5.5.4?
>>
>>
>> I don't think so. I think that the latest Cocoon with SVN has had
>> some fixes for 1.5, but I'm pretty sure 2.1.6 won't yet work.
>>
>> Regards, Upayavira
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by News Hunter <re...@atmuc.com>.
where can i find the tested configuration?
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To: <us...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
> News Hunter wrote:
>
>> Can i use cocoon 2.1.6 with jre1.5 and fresh install of tomcat 5.5.4?
>
> I don't think so. I think that the latest Cocoon with SVN has had some
> fixes for 1.5, but I'm pretty sure 2.1.6 won't yet work.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
News Hunter wrote:
> Can i use cocoon 2.1.6 with jre1.5 and fresh install of tomcat 5.5.4?
I don't think so. I think that the latest Cocoon with SVN has had some
fixes for 1.5, but I'm pretty sure 2.1.6 won't yet work.
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RE: Cocoon 2.1.6 - Build problems!!!
Posted by km...@hotmail.com.
Hi,
I tried following your previous recommendations of how to build the 2.1.6
source on JDK 1.5, however I get the following build error:
C:\Java\cocoon-2.1.6-src\cocoon-2.1.6>build
Buildfile: build.xml
prepare:
======================================================================
Apache Cocoon 2.1.6 [1999-2004]
======================================================================
Building with Apache Ant version 1.6.2 compiled on July 16 2004
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Using build file C:\Java\cocoon-2.1.6-src\cocoon-2.1.6\build.xml
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Compiler options:
- debug ......... [on]
- optimize ...... [on]
- deprecation ... [off]
======================================================================
compile-deprecated:
Processing:
C:\Java\cocoon-2.1.6-src\cocoon-2.1.6\src\deprecated\conf\deprecated
xroles
Writing:
C:\Java\cocoon-2.1.6-src\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\classes\org\ap
ache\cocoon\cocoon.roles
BUILD FAILED
C:\Java\cocoon-2.1.6-src\cocoon-2.1.6\tools\targets\compile-build.xml:43:
Transf
ormerException: javax.xml.transform.TransformerException:
java.io.FileNotFoundEx
ception:
file:\C:\Java\cocoon-2.1.6-src\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\classes\
org\apache\cocoon\cocoon.roles (The filename, directory name, or volume
label syntax is incorrect)
Total time: 4 seconds
C:\Java\cocoon-2.1.6-src\cocoon-2.1.6>
Seemingly it is unable to open and process the cocoon.roles file? But I can
open it by typing the exact same path into my file/internet browser,
including the "file:" protocol!
Line 43 of compile-build.xml is
<javac srcdir="${java}" destdir="${build.dest}" debug="${compiler.debug}"
optimize="${compiler.optimize}" deprecation="${compiler.deprecation}"
target="${target.vm}" source="${source.vm}" nowarn="${compiler.nowarn}"
compiler="${compiler}" classpathref="classpath"/>
But I assume source param is set correctly, since I have the latest 2.1.6
source distribution?
Will greatly appreciate any help :-)
PS: I'm running JDK 1.5.x (J2SE5.0?)
Kristian
PS: Is it perhaps the Ant version 1.6.2 that is 2 blame?
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Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
in 2.1.6 just do the first step,The all step is just for 2.1.5.1
johnson
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> can't send zip attachment to the maillist
> pls give me your mail addr
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>> could you send me your tools/targets folder as a zip file?
>>
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>> Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
>>
>>
>>> 1.in tools/targets/init_build.xml change target="1.3" to target="1.5"
>>> 2.in the same dir ,compile-build.xml samples-build.xml find the javac
>>> statement,add one line source="1.4" below target="xxxx"
>>> 3.in tools/src/blocks-build.xsl do the same to step 2.
>>>
>>> hope this helped
>>>
>>> Johnson
>>
>>
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Johnson <jo...@soho.club.tw>.
in 2.1.6 just do the first step,The all step is just for 2.1.5.1
johnson
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To: <us...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
> can't send zip attachment to the maillist
> pls give me your mail addr
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>> could you send me your tools/targets folder as a zip file?
>>
>> -----------------------
>> -News Hunter-
>> -----------------------
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Johnson" <jo...@soho.club.tw>
>> To: <us...@cocoon.apache.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
>>
>>
>>> 1.in tools/targets/init_build.xml change target="1.3" to target="1.5"
>>> 2.in the same dir ,compile-build.xml samples-build.xml find the javac
>>> statement,add one line source="1.4" below target="xxxx"
>>> 3.in tools/src/blocks-build.xsl do the same to step 2.
>>>
>>> hope this helped
>>>
>>> Johnson
>>
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Johnson <jo...@soho.club.tw>.
can't send zip attachment to the maillist
pls give me your mail addr
johnson
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> could you send me your tools/targets folder as a zip file?
>
> -----------------------
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> To: <us...@cocoon.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
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>
>> 1.in tools/targets/init_build.xml change target="1.3" to target="1.5"
>> 2.in the same dir ,compile-build.xml samples-build.xml find the javac
>> statement,add one line source="1.4" below target="xxxx"
>> 3.in tools/src/blocks-build.xsl do the same to step 2.
>>
>> hope this helped
>>
>> Johnson
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by News Hunter <re...@atmuc.com>.
could you send me your tools/targets folder as a zip file?
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To: <us...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
> 1.in tools/targets/init_build.xml change target="1.3" to target="1.5"
> 2.in the same dir ,compile-build.xml samples-build.xml find the javac
> statement,add one line source="1.4" below target="xxxx"
> 3.in tools/src/blocks-build.xsl do the same to step 2.
>
> hope this helped
>
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Johnson <jo...@soho.club.tw>.
1.in tools/targets/init_build.xml change target="1.3" to target="1.5"
2.in the same dir ,compile-build.xml samples-build.xml find the javac
statement,add one line source="1.4" below target="xxxx"
3.in tools/src/blocks-build.xsl do the same to step 2.
hope this helped
Johnson
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To: <us...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
>i use jdk1.5 to compile cocoon 2.1.6 with the lines belove and get this
>error.
>
> build.properties
>
> compiler=modern
> compiler.debug=on
> compiler.optimize=on
> compiler.deprecation=off
> compiler.nowarn=on
> source.vm=1.3
> target.vm=1.5
>
>
> compile-core:
> Copying 18 files to
> K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\cl
> asses
> Copied 60 empty directories to 33 empty directories under
> K:\repository\programm
> ing\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\classes
> Created dir:
> K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\mocks
> Compiling 1 source file to
> K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2
> .1.6\mocks
> Compiling 541 source files to
> K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoo
> n-2.1.6\classes
> K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\src\java\org\apache\cocoon\xml\dom\Docume
> ntWrapper.java:48: org.apache.cocoon.xml.dom.DocumentWrapper is not
> abstract and
> does not override abstract method normalizeDocument() in
> org.w3c.dom.Document
> public class DocumentWrapper implements org.w3c.dom.Document, XMLizable {
> ^
> 1 error
>
> BUILD FAILED
> K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\tools\targets\compile-build.xml:62:
> Compi
> le failed; see the compiler error output for details.
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RE: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Oleksandr Filatov <of...@softservecom.com>.
Here is the patch for DocumentWrapper.java
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=13596
Best regards,
Oleksandr Filatov
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To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
i use jdk1.5 to compile cocoon 2.1.6 with the lines belove and get this
error.
build.properties
compiler=modern
compiler.debug=on
compiler.optimize=on
compiler.deprecation=off
compiler.nowarn=on
source.vm=1.3
target.vm=1.5
compile-core:
Copying 18 files to
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\cl
asses
Copied 60 empty directories to 33 empty directories under
K:\repository\programm
ing\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\classes
Created dir: K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\mocks
Compiling 1 source file to
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2
.1.6\mocks
Compiling 541 source files to
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoo
n-2.1.6\classes
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\src\java\org\apache\cocoon\xml\dom\Do
cume
ntWrapper.java:48: org.apache.cocoon.xml.dom.DocumentWrapper is not abstract
and
does not override abstract method normalizeDocument() in
org.w3c.dom.Document
public class DocumentWrapper implements org.w3c.dom.Document, XMLizable {
^
1 error
BUILD FAILED
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\tools\targets\compile-build.xml:62:
Compi
le failed; see the compiler error output for details.
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by News Hunter <re...@atmuc.com>.
i use jdk1.5 to compile cocoon 2.1.6 with the lines belove and get this
error.
build.properties
compiler=modern
compiler.debug=on
compiler.optimize=on
compiler.deprecation=off
compiler.nowarn=on
source.vm=1.3
target.vm=1.5
compile-core:
Copying 18 files to
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\cl
asses
Copied 60 empty directories to 33 empty directories under
K:\repository\programm
ing\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\classes
Created dir: K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2.1.6\mocks
Compiling 1 source file to
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoon-2
.1.6\mocks
Compiling 541 source files to
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\build\cocoo
n-2.1.6\classes
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\src\java\org\apache\cocoon\xml\dom\Docume
ntWrapper.java:48: org.apache.cocoon.xml.dom.DocumentWrapper is not abstract
and
does not override abstract method normalizeDocument() in
org.w3c.dom.Document
public class DocumentWrapper implements org.w3c.dom.Document, XMLizable {
^
1 error
BUILD FAILED
K:\repository\programming\cocoon-2.1.6\tools\targets\compile-build.xml:62:
Compi
le failed; see the compiler error output for details.
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Mark Eggers <it...@yahoo.com>.
I've built cocoon 2.1.6 and the latest 2.1.x SVN release using jdk 1.4.2
and 1.5.0_01 under Tomcat 5.5.6. There are some tweaks you need to do
to tools/tasks/init-build.xml in order to compile with jdk 1.5.
Basically you have to change the target.vm and target lines to equal
1.5. However in local.build.properties, you still have to set source.vm
to 1.4.
Unfortunately, there are still some resulting issues with the build.
JSP pages as shown by the JSP samples block come up blank. One of the
Groovy samples (groovy markup generator) failed with a null pointer
exception.
There may be other issues, but I've not run all of the samples.
I also tried running cocoon 2.1.6 built under jdk 1.4.2 and Tomcat
5.5.6. The JSP pages came up blank, and I didn't test the Groovy markup
generator.
Finally, I tried a recent SVN 2.1.x version built using jdk 1.4.2 and
running under Tomcat 5.5.6 with jdk 1.5.0_01. The results were the
same.
1. Blank output page for the JSP sample block
<html><body></body></html>
2. Null pointer exception with the Groovy markup example
Caused by: org.apache.bsf.BSFException: exception from Groovy:
java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.codehaus.groovy.bsf.GroovyEngine.exec(GroovyEngine.java:167)
My environment for jdk 1.5:
Fedora Core 3 2.6.9-1.681_FC3
jdk 1.5.0_01-b08
Tomcat 5.5.6 with the changes made to web.xml to use Sun's javac
cocoon 2.1.x 122882M or cocoon 2.1.6
my environment for jdk 1.4:
Fedora Core 3 2.6.9-1.681_FC3
jdk 1.4.2_06-b03
Tomcat 5.0.28
cocoon 2.1.x 122882M or cocoon 2.1.6
In short, I think there are still some challenges with Cocoon 2.1.x, jdk 1.5.0, and Tomcat 5.5.x.
/mde/
just my two cents . . . .
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Aurélien DEHAY <ad...@zorel.org>.
News Hunter wrote:
> my problem is to use cocoon 2.1.6 with tomcat. i can not use cocoon
> 2.1.6 with tomcat 5.5.4.
>
http://ondolinde.dyndns.org:8080/cocoon http://ondolinde.dyndns.org:8080/
Cocoon 2.1.6 with Tomcat 5.5.4. I used a 1.4.2 JDK to compile cocoon,
and a 1.5 to run tomcat.
Rgds.
Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by News Hunter <re...@atmuc.com>.
my problem is to use cocoon 2.1.6 with tomcat. i can not use cocoon 2.1.6
with tomcat 5.5.4.
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Aurélien DEHAY <ad...@zorel.org>.
Aurélien DEHAY wrote:
> News Hunter wrote:
>
>> Can i use cocoon 2.1.6 with jre1.5 and fresh install of tomcat 5.5.4?
>
>
> I do it every day, except I have the 1.5 jdk. Don't know about jre.
>
> Rgds.
Apologies, forgot to say I've built cocoon with a 1.4.2 JDK.
Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by News Hunter <re...@atmuc.com>.
how can you run tomcat 5.5.4 without jdk 1.5?
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Re: Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by Aurélien DEHAY <ad...@zorel.org>.
News Hunter wrote:
> Can i use cocoon 2.1.6 with jre1.5 and fresh install of tomcat 5.5.4?
I do it every day, except I have the 1.5 jdk. Don't know about jre.
Rgds.
Cocoon 2.1.6
Posted by News Hunter <re...@atmuc.com>.
Can i use cocoon 2.1.6 with jre1.5 and fresh install of tomcat 5.5.4?
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Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@yahoo.de>.
Markus Heussen wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user
> (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a new
> project starting next week we need such a tool to define our business
> processes consisting off several Web Service calls.
>
> One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at
> http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/.
>
> Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free
> alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we
> would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago.
>
> Thanks for any hint!
See Apache Agila (under incubation):
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=109648244412408&w=2 and
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&w=2&r=1&s=agila&q=b
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RE: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by Mikael Björn <mi...@mibj01.dyndns.org>.
Markus,
you should consider a closer look at WFMOpen at
http://wfmopen.sourceforge.net/
I've been using it for a over a year now and it only gets better! It uses
WfMC's
XPDL language as the definition language. It's is actually the reason I
started to
look at Cocoon in the first place... ;-)
It's surely a winner!
There is a great graphical tool called JAWE that you can use to build and
manipulate
XPDL. You can find it at: http://jawe.objectweb.org/ (It's actually a part
of a big
OSS solution called Enhydra and it's Shark BPL solution. Check that out at
http://shark.objectweb.org/)
If you're into BPEL as your Process Definition Language I would suggest that
you have
a look at bexee (http://bexee.sourceforge.net/) or ActiveBPEL
(http://www.activebpel.org/)...
Or if you're using JBoss (works great with Cocoon) have a look at JBpm at
http://jbpm.org/
I hope that this was enough help to get you started!
Any questions? Mail me!
/Mikael Björn
CTO
MBCG
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Markus Heussen [mailto:heussen@asspaxx.de]
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:18 PM
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org; dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using
> comfortable user
> (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard
> BPL. In a new
> project starting next week we need such a tool to define our business
> processes consisting off several Web Service calls.
>
> One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at
> http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/.
>
> Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free
> alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we
> would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago.
>
> Thanks for any hint!
>
> Markus
>
>
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RE: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
Posted by Mikael Björn <mi...@mibj01.dyndns.org>.
Markus,
you should consider a closer look at WFMOpen at
http://wfmopen.sourceforge.net/
I've been using it for a over a year now and it only gets better! It uses
WfMC's
XPDL language as the definition language. It's is actually the reason I
started to
look at Cocoon in the first place... ;-)
It's surely a winner!
There is a great graphical tool called JAWE that you can use to build and
manipulate
XPDL. You can find it at: http://jawe.objectweb.org/ (It's actually a part
of a big
OSS solution called Enhydra and it's Shark BPL solution. Check that out at
http://shark.objectweb.org/)
If you're into BPEL as your Process Definition Language I would suggest that
you have
a look at bexee (http://bexee.sourceforge.net/) or ActiveBPEL
(http://www.activebpel.org/)...
Or if you're using JBoss (works great with Cocoon) have a look at JBpm at
http://jbpm.org/
I hope that this was enough help to get you started!
Any questions? Mail me!
/Mikael Björn
CTO
MBCG
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Markus Heussen [mailto:heussen@asspaxx.de]
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:18 PM
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org; dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using
> comfortable user
> (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard
> BPL. In a new
> project starting next week we need such a tool to define our business
> processes consisting off several Web Service calls.
>
> One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at
> http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/.
>
> Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free
> alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we
> would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago.
>
> Thanks for any hint!
>
> Markus
>
>
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