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Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

On 16 Apr 2014, at 19:51, Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I can't speak for the Mac, but Alt+I, U, F gets there for me.  Does this not work (perhaps using Option) on a Mac?  If you press Option, don't the relevant letters appear underlined in the menus?

NO - and that's the issue - it did work that way in OS2 (and probably win doze).  Alt (which is the option key on a mac) doesn't bring up any of the menubar items.

BIGTIME Pita!

jt
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 18/04/2014 Julian Thomas wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2014, at 03:44, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Mnemonics (and their existence) are language-dependent. Are you using OpenOffice in English
> yes - US english.  jt

Is this still an issue with the new OpenOffice 4.1 on Mac? In Writer, do 
you see underlined letters in the main menu, like the "F" in File and 
the "E" in Edit? And aren't you able to use (the Mac equivalent of) 
Alt+F, Alt+E... to open the menus?

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

Posted by Julian Thomas <jt...@jt-mj.net>.
On 17 Apr 2014, at 03:44, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> Mnemonics (and their existence) are language-dependent. Are you using OpenOffice in English

yes - US english.  jt


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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Julian Thomas wrote:
>
> On 16 Apr 2014, at 19:51, Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't speak for the Mac, but Alt+I, U, F gets there for me.  Does this not work (perhaps using Option) on a Mac?  If you press Option, don't the relevant letters appear underlined in the menus?
>
> NO - and that's the issue - it did work that way in OS2 (and probably win doze).  Alt (which is the option key on a mac) doesn't bring up any of the menubar items.

Mnemonics (and their existence) are language-dependent. Are you using 
OpenOffice in English or in other languages?

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

Posted by Julian Thomas <jt...@jt-mj.net>.
On 27 May 2014, at 07:17, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> As noted by Herbert in
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124972
> this is by design: it was disabled on Mac OS X in 2007 since it seemed odd on a Mac. If Mac OS X users want to change it back, it can probably be done.

I fail to see how removing functionality is an ‘enhancement’.  In any case, the underscores and shortcuts are familiar to those of us who use more than one platform, and provide a more consistent cross platform experience.

I do not have much patience with the purists who seem to think that if it’s a Mac, you need to point and click rather than use a keyboard shortcut!  Could you enable the shortcuts and allow an option for the underscores to be visible or not?

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 17/04/2014 Julian Thomas wrote:
> Alt (which is the option key on a mac) doesn't bring up any of the menubar items.

As noted by Herbert in
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124972
this is by design: it was disabled on Mac OS X in 2007 since it seemed 
odd on a Mac. If Mac OS X users want to change it back, it can probably 
be done.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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