[Request] Update languages to include Northern, Central and Southern Kurdish

["Sahand.T" <sa...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

Locales for OpenOffice only include Northern Kurdish, and it's named
"Kurdish" instead of the correct "Kurdish, Northern" (Kurdish encompasses
all variants of the language, it's unspecific). Central Kurdish and
Southern Kurdish need to be added too since they are basically different
languages. Central and Southern Kurdish use a modified arabic script by
default and are RTL whereas Northern Kurdish by default uses latin script
and is LTR.

I will suggest the mappings without country codes, this is because the
variants of Kurdish are similar throughout each country and there's not
much of a use in separating things by country. If country codes are an
absolute must I can suggest them anyway.

The three letter 639-3 codes should be used in the locale settings for the
Kurdish variations and not the two letter 639-1 codes, the suggested names
in the following list should be used and not simply "Kurdish".

---

Codes and mappings to be added, taken from ISO 639-3:

Mapping: ckb
Info: RTL, unicode
Language list:
English: Kurdish, Central
 French: Kurde, Centrale
German: Kurdisch, Zentral
Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Sorani
 Swedish: Kurdiska, Central
Turkish: Kürtçe, Orta

Mapping: ckb-Latn
Language list:
 English: Kurdish, Central (latin)
French: Kurde, Centrale (latin)
German: Kurdisch, Zentral (lateinisch)
 Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Sorani (latînî)
Swedish: Kurdiska, Central (latinsk)
Turkish: Kürtçe, Orta (latin)

Mapping: kmr
Language list:
English: Kurdish, Northern
French: Kurdes du nord
 German: Kurdisch, Nördliches
Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Kurmancî
Swedish: Kurdiska, Nordlig
 Turkish: Kürtçe, Kuzey

Mapping: sdh
Info: RTL, unicode
Language list:
English: Kurdish, Southern
 French: Kurdes du sud
German: Kurdische, Süd
Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Xwarig
 Swedish: Kurdiska, Sydlig
Turkish: Kürtçe, Güney

Mapping: sdh-Latn
Language list:
 English: Kurdish, Southern (latin)
French: Kurdes du sud (latin)
German: Kurdische, Süd (lateinisch)
 Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Xwarig (latînî)
Swedish: Kurdiska, Sydlig (latinsk)
Turkish: Kürtçe, Güney (latin)

note: About the ku-TR and ku-SY that are currently there: change the
language list name for them from "Kurdish" to "Kurdish, Northern". This
means that there will be three "Kurdish, Northern" in total (ku-TR, ku-SY
and kmr). All language tools and localizations should be updated and
assigned to kmr (and not to ku), once that's done I guess ku-TR and ku-SY
can be removed. If someone still wants to differentiate between Northern
Kurdish in different countries, then the mappings kmr-XX can be used (and
not ku-XX as ku is the macrolanguage kurdish and not specifically Northern
Kurdish).

note 2: sdh-Latn and ckb-Latn are LTR and use the same script as kmr. I
think they use unicode, but I'm not 100%.

note 3: In the language list, when I write "Kurdish, Northern:", I mean the
localization that is currently named "Kurdish". Like I said, this
localization should be renamed to "Kurdish, Northern".

---

Microsoft added Central Kurdish to Windows 8 and Office 2013. Here are the
LCIDs for Windows 8 (I suppose they use the same codes for Office 2013):
Central Kurdish, 0x0092, ku
Central Kurdish, 0x7c92, ku-Arab
Central Kurdish Iraq, 0x0492, ku-Arab-IQ

(source:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/5/E/95EF66AF-9026-4BB0-A41D-A4F81802D92C/[MS-LCID].pdf
)

A Word 2013 document written in sorani/arabic script and marked as "Central
Kurdish Iraq" is assigned the code "ku-Arab-IQ" in the xml, just as the
Microsofts LCID list says (so 0x0492 should be linked to "ckb").
Text written in latin can't be assigned "Central Kurdish Iraq" in Word
2013, this indicates that "Central Kurdish Iraq" ("ku-Arab-IQ") is reserved
for sorani/arabic script only. Perhaps then, "ku" is reserved for Central
Kurdish latin (if true then 0x0092 should be linked to "ckb-Latn") and
"ku-Arab" for Central Kurdish throughout all countries – ie Iraq+Iran –
meaning that 0x7c92 should be linked to "ckb". But it's hard to say at the
moment.

Regards
Sahand

Re: [Request] Update languages to include Northern, Central and Southern Kurdish

["Sahand.T" <sa...@gmail.com>]

Any updates on this?

Regards,
Sahand

Re: [Request] Update languages to include Northern, Central and Southern Kurdish

["Sahand.T" <sa...@gmail.com>]

I filed a bug report on this:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122045


Sahand


2013/4/10 Sahand.T <sa...@gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> Locales for OpenOffice only include Northern Kurdish, and it's named
> "Kurdish" instead of the correct "Kurdish, Northern" (Kurdish encompasses
> all variants of the language, it's unspecific). Central Kurdish and
> Southern Kurdish need to be added too since they are basically different
> languages. Central and Southern Kurdish use a modified arabic script by
> default and are RTL whereas Northern Kurdish by default uses latin script
> and is LTR.
>
> I will suggest the mappings without country codes, this is because the
> variants of Kurdish are similar throughout each country and there's not
> much of a use in separating things by country. If country codes are an
> absolute must I can suggest them anyway.
>
> The three letter 639-3 codes should be used in the locale settings for the
> Kurdish variations and not the two letter 639-1 codes, the suggested names
> in the following list should be used and not simply "Kurdish".
>
> ---
>
> Codes and mappings to be added, taken from ISO 639-3:
>
> Mapping: ckb
> Info: RTL, unicode
> Language list:
> English: Kurdish, Central
>  French: Kurde, Centrale
> German: Kurdisch, Zentral
> Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Sorani
>  Swedish: Kurdiska, Central
> Turkish: Kürtçe, Orta
>
> Mapping: ckb-Latn
> Language list:
>  English: Kurdish, Central (latin)
> French: Kurde, Centrale (latin)
> German: Kurdisch, Zentral (lateinisch)
>  Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Sorani (latînî)
> Swedish: Kurdiska, Central (latinsk)
> Turkish: Kürtçe, Orta (latin)
>
> Mapping: kmr
> Language list:
> English: Kurdish, Northern
> French: Kurdes du nord
>  German: Kurdisch, Nördliches
> Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Kurmancî
> Swedish: Kurdiska, Nordlig
>  Turkish: Kürtçe, Kuzey
>
> Mapping: sdh
> Info: RTL, unicode
> Language list:
> English: Kurdish, Southern
>  French: Kurdes du sud
> German: Kurdische, Süd
> Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Xwarig
>  Swedish: Kurdiska, Sydlig
> Turkish: Kürtçe, Güney
>
> Mapping: sdh-Latn
> Language list:
>  English: Kurdish, Southern (latin)
> French: Kurdes du sud (latin)
> German: Kurdische, Süd (lateinisch)
>  Kurdish, Northern: Kurdí Xwarig (latînî)
> Swedish: Kurdiska, Sydlig (latinsk)
> Turkish: Kürtçe, Güney (latin)
>
> note: About the ku-TR and ku-SY that are currently there: change the
> language list name for them from "Kurdish" to "Kurdish, Northern". This
> means that there will be three "Kurdish, Northern" in total (ku-TR, ku-SY
> and kmr). All language tools and localizations should be updated and
> assigned to kmr (and not to ku), once that's done I guess ku-TR and ku-SY
> can be removed. If someone still wants to differentiate between Northern
> Kurdish in different countries, then the mappings kmr-XX can be used (and
> not ku-XX as ku is the macrolanguage kurdish and not specifically Northern
> Kurdish).
>
> note 2: sdh-Latn and ckb-Latn are LTR and use the same script as kmr. I
> think they use unicode, but I'm not 100%.
>
> note 3: In the language list, when I write "Kurdish, Northern:", I mean
> the localization that is currently named "Kurdish". Like I said, this
> localization should be renamed to "Kurdish, Northern".
>
> ---
>
> Microsoft added Central Kurdish to Windows 8 and Office 2013. Here are the
> LCIDs for Windows 8 (I suppose they use the same codes for Office 2013):
> Central Kurdish, 0x0092, ku
> Central Kurdish, 0x7c92, ku-Arab
> Central Kurdish Iraq, 0x0492, ku-Arab-IQ
>
> (source:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/5/E/95EF66AF-9026-4BB0-A41D-A4F81802D92C/[MS-LCID].pdf
> )
>
> A Word 2013 document written in sorani/arabic script and marked as
> "Central Kurdish Iraq" is assigned the code "ku-Arab-IQ" in the xml, just
> as the Microsofts LCID list says (so 0x0492 should be linked to "ckb").
> Text written in latin can't be assigned "Central Kurdish Iraq" in Word
> 2013, this indicates that "Central Kurdish Iraq" ("ku-Arab-IQ") is reserved
> for sorani/arabic script only. Perhaps then, "ku" is reserved for Central
> Kurdish latin (if true then 0x0092 should be linked to "ckb-Latn") and
> "ku-Arab" for Central Kurdish throughout all countries – ie Iraq+Iran –
> meaning that 0x7c92 should be linked to "ckb". But it's hard to say at the
> moment.
>
> Regards
> Sahand
>