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[RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Hi Everyone,
This vote to graduate Apache Drill to a top-level project has passed with 9
binding +1s and no -1s.
Ted Dunning
Jake Farrell
Henry Saputra
Roman Shaposhnik
Bertrand Delacretaz
Chris Douglas
Sebastian Schelter
Steve Loughran
Alan D. Cabrera
This follows a vote on the Drill dev list which passed with 23 +1s. Thanks
to everyone for voting. I will now submit the resolution to the board.
Thanks,
Tomer
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
> I had the wrong link in here as well as non-Apache emails. Here's the
> correct information.
>
> Correct link to PPMC vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/201410.mbox/%3CCAJkA4MF%2B5tWRaoGiimpjB_ixbCQFY%3Dq2oEtzAwmeQTFZpds59g%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
> Updated resolution with Apache emails:
>
> ---- snip
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
> to interactive analysis of large-scale datasets.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC),
> to be known as the "Apache Drill Project", be and hereby is established
> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive analysis of
> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice
> President, Apache Drill" be and hereby is created, the person holding such
> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of
> the Apache Drill Project, and to have primary responsibility for management
> of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Drill
> Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately
> below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Drill Project:
>
> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org>
> * Tomer Shiran <tshiran at apache dot org>
> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
> * Jason Frantz <jason at apache dot org>
> * MC Srivas <srivas at apache dot org>
> * Keys Botzum <kbotzum at apache dot org>
> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org>
> * Tim Chen <tnachen at apache dot org>
> * Mehant Baid <mehant at apache dot org>
> * Jinfeng Ni <jni at apache dot org>
> * Venki Korukanti <venki at apache dot org>
> * Jason Altekruse <json at apache dot org>
> * Aditya Kishore <adi at apache dot org>
> * Parth Chandra <parthc at apache dot org>
> * Aman Sinha <amansinha at apache dot org>
> * Steven Phillips <smp at apache dot org>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jacques Nadeau be appointed
> to the office of Vice President, Apache Drill, to serve in accordance with
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Drill podling; and be
> it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> Drill podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter
> discharged.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> We wrapped up the vote on the Apache Drill dev list in which the
>> community expressed its desire to graduate to a top-level project. That
>> vote passed with 23 +1s (http://bit.ly/1tcrHVS) and 0 -1s (including the
>> project's mentors, PMC members and committers, as well as IPMC members).
>>
>> This is a new VOTE to decide if Apache Drill should graduate from the
>> Incubator. Please VOTE on the resolution pasted below the ballot. I'll
>> leave this VOTE open for at least 72 hours (October 24, 9:30pm PT).
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Drill from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Drill from the Incubator because.. .
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tomer
>>
>> ---- snip
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
>> to interactive analysis of large-scale datasets.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Drill Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive analysis of
>> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice
>> President, Apache Drill" be and hereby is created, the person holding such
>> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of
>> the Apache Drill Project, and to have primary responsibility for management
>> of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Drill
>> Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately
>> below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache Drill Project:
>>
>> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org>
>> * Tomer Shiran <tshiran at apache dot org>
>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
>> * Jason Frantz <jasondfrantz at gmail dot com>
>> * MC Srivas <mcsrivas at gmail dot com>
>> * Keys Botzum <kbotzum at maprtech dot com>
>> * Julian Hyde <julianhyde at gmail dot com>
>> * Tim Chen <tnachen at gmail dot com>
>> * Mehant Baid <baid.mehant at gmail dot com>
>> * Jinfeng Ni <jinfengni99 at gmail dot com>
>> * Venki Korukanti <venki.korukanti at gmail dot com>
>> * Jason Altekruse <altekrusejason at gmail dot com>
>> * Aditya Kishore <adityakishore at gmail dot com>
>> * Parth Chandra <pchandra at maprtech dot com>
>> * Aman Sinha <asinha at maprtech dot com>
>> * Steven Phillips <sphillips at maprtech dot com>
>>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jacques Nadeau be appointed
>> to the office of Vice President, Apache Drill, to serve in accordance with
>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Drill podling; and be
>> it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Drill podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter
>> discharged.
>>
>
>
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Aditya <ad...@gmail.com>.
That's correct. I was talking about recent commits (last few hundreds or
so).
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Aditya <ad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a general rule, we *always* preserve patch's author information in the
>> commits.
>>
>
> But the early squashed commits, for instance as Optiq was being pulled in
> did not preserve this information, I believe.
>
>
>
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Aditya <ad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As a general rule, we *always* preserve patch's author information in the
> commits.
>
But the early squashed commits, for instance as Optiq was being pulled in
did not preserve this information, I believe.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Aditya <ad...@gmail.com>.
As a general rule, we *always* preserve patch's author information in the
commits.
There have been, however, occasions where more than one contributors
have worked together on a single feature and whenever it had made sense,
voluntarily squashed commits under a single contributor's name. Even in
such cases, the commit retains one of the original contributor's
information.
Mongo storage plugin [1] is one such example.
[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/commit/2ca9c907bff639e08a561eac32e0acab3a0b3304
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:27 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The github listing is not a valid measure since many non-committer (and
> > quite a few committer) changes were squashed into larger commits.
> >
>
> Why is author information not being preserved? Committer and author
> are different entities with Git. 'git apply' would preserve that
> author information for non-committers (and non-committing committers)
> (and still show the committer who committed it)
>
> --David
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The github listing is not a valid measure since many non-committer (and
> quite a few committer) changes were squashed into larger commits.
>
Why is author information not being preserved? Committer and author
are different entities with Git. 'git apply' would preserve that
author information for non-committers (and non-committing committers)
(and still show the committer who committed it)
--David
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
The github listing is not a valid measure since many non-committer (and
quite a few committer) changes were squashed into larger commits.
Also, it is recent commits, not total commits that matter. Recent non-mapr
contributions include:
- Pig parser
- Mongo data source
I should point out also that the Optiq parser was written by Julian Hyde,
currently employed by Hortonworks. Julian was made a committer after that
code was brought in so your counts don't reflect that.
Another corporate participant just contacted me with an additional
potential large donation as well.
Also, perhaps the precedent you are seeking regarding graduation policies
would be Ambari. The PMC is >80% from Hortonworks, but that didn't hinder
graduation.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Sean Owen <sr...@apache.org> wrote:
> I have no strong opinion on the graduation, sounds fine, but can I ask
> how much of the contribution is not from MapR? I got through the top
> 10 contributors, making up maybe 95+% of it, and didn't see any
> non-employees, if my info is right:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/graphs/contributors although
> there are clearly a few in there. It assumes github is an accurate
> reflection of contribution too.
>
> As a meta question I'm wondering the extent to which this is a
> requirement for graduation from the incubator, to not be so dependent
> on one organization. I think we recently saw this isn't a requirement
> going in, but is this suggestive that it's not required for graduation
> either?
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > This vote to graduate Apache Drill to a top-level project has passed
> with 9
> > binding +1s and no -1s.
> >
> > Ted Dunning
> > Jake Farrell
> > Henry Saputra
> > Roman Shaposhnik
> > Bertrand Delacretaz
> > Chris Douglas
> > Sebastian Schelter
> > Steve Loughran
> > Alan D. Cabrera
> >
> > This follows a vote on the Drill dev list which passed with 23 +1s.
> Thanks
> > to everyone for voting. I will now submit the resolution to the board.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tomer
> >
>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Chris Douglas <cd...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> It¹s not a requirement for graduation from the Incubator, as succinctly
> summarized by Roy (and I am +1 on this):
>
> http://markmail.org/message/w56cmyri4osgcgud
+1 This has been covered often, and recently. -C
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Chief Architect
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Owen <sr...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Friday, October 24, 2014 at 11:33 PM
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
>
>>I have no strong opinion on the graduation, sounds fine, but can I ask
>>how much of the contribution is not from MapR? I got through the top
>>10 contributors, making up maybe 95+% of it, and didn't see any
>>non-employees, if my info is right:
>>https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/graphs/contributors although
>>there are clearly a few in there. It assumes github is an accurate
>>reflection of contribution too.
>>
>>As a meta question I'm wondering the extent to which this is a
>>requirement for graduation from the incubator, to not be so dependent
>>on one organization. I think we recently saw this isn't a requirement
>>going in, but is this suggestive that it's not required for graduation
>>either?
>>
>>On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> This vote to graduate Apache Drill to a top-level project has passed
>>>with 9
>>> binding +1s and no -1s.
>>>
>>> Ted Dunning
>>> Jake Farrell
>>> Henry Saputra
>>> Roman Shaposhnik
>>> Bertrand Delacretaz
>>> Chris Douglas
>>> Sebastian Schelter
>>> Steve Loughran
>>> Alan D. Cabrera
>>>
>>> This follows a vote on the Drill dev list which passed with 23 +1s.
>>>Thanks
>>> to everyone for voting. I will now submit the resolution to the board.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tomer
>>>
>>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Timothy Chen <tn...@gmail.com>.
Just want to chime in around diversity in Drill.
I've been involved in Drill since the beginning of incubation as a non
MapR employee, and from the beginning of the project Drill opened up
the design and contributions to the community, and was obvious from
the design google docs early on with collaborations and feedback from
the community as a whole, to the Google hangouts that are conducted
weekly with all the community members which consistently have multiple
companies show up to chime in discussions.
Being also involved with other top level Apache projects, I view Drill
as already working nicely with the community and very least very
active discussing and improving around allowing diversity.
Tim
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think projects, realistically, get
>> driven by companies, and necessarily often start around one company. A
>> bit more diversity here would be good but hey. I take the message that
>> being an Apache project doesn't signify as much as is advertised (see
>> link above) about the 'community support' or diversity. Maybe just how
>> it is now and no big deal, but thought I would ask. Thanks for
>> indulging.
>>
>
> Drill is working hard on diversifying. Large contributions are coming in
> as we speak from new contributors and if followed up, these should lead to
> committership before long.
>
> But we really should look at other projects like Knox and Ambari which have
> graduated without even much lip service paid to diversity to judge the
> standards. Even now, Knox has one emeritus non-Horton committer and one
> ex-mentor from elsewhere. That is "diversity" there.
>
> With Drill you have a project whose ethos involves very strongly welcoming
> newcomers and welcoming their contributions. A very different kettle of
> fish.
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think projects, realistically, get
> driven by companies, and necessarily often start around one company. A
> bit more diversity here would be good but hey. I take the message that
> being an Apache project doesn't signify as much as is advertised (see
> link above) about the 'community support' or diversity. Maybe just how
> it is now and no big deal, but thought I would ask. Thanks for
> indulging.
>
Drill is working hard on diversifying. Large contributions are coming in
as we speak from new contributors and if followed up, these should lead to
committership before long.
But we really should look at other projects like Knox and Ambari which have
graduated without even much lip service paid to diversity to judge the
standards. Even now, Knox has one emeritus non-Horton committer and one
ex-mentor from elsewhere. That is "diversity" there.
With Drill you have a project whose ethos involves very strongly welcoming
newcomers and welcoming their contributions. A very different kettle of
fish.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we should open another separate thread to continue the
> diversity discussions without hijacking RESULT thread for Drill.
Great point.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
I wish the discussions that Sean started had occur for projects like
Knox or Tez.
I interacted and watch Drill project for a while before being pulled
out from my prev employer to stop working on it and I could see that
the community did try very hard to diversify and embrace new
contributors from external people.
I think we should open another separate thread to continue the
diversity discussions without hijacking RESULT thread for Drill.
- Henry
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community
>
> "A major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and
> diverse meritocratic community ... The project is considered to have a
> diverse community when it is not highly dependent on any single
> contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent committers and
> there is no single company or entity that is vital to the success of
> the project). Basically this means that when a project mostly consists
> of contributors from one company, this is a sign of not being diverse
> enough. You can mitigate this requirement by admitting more external
> contributors to your project that have no tie to the single entity."
>
> This seems to contradict the idea that diversity is not required. I
> think Roy's saying something else: you shouldn't have to turn down a
> job to stay on a project, or leave a project to take a job. Of course.
> Nobody wants to kick out contributors, or force addition of people
> from other employers, to graduate. Of course, nobody said graduation
> is a fait accompli.
>
> The issue seems to have come up before, but is de facto not much
> 'enforced'. Diversity is great all else equal, but seems unrealistic
> to demand on entering incubation. I'm surprised if opinion is that it
> also doesn't matter on exit. I think projects, realistically, get
> driven by companies, and necessarily often start around one company. A
> bit more diversity here would be good but hey. I take the message that
> being an Apache project doesn't signify as much as is advertised (see
> link above) about the 'community support' or diversity. Maybe just how
> it is now and no big deal, but thought I would ask. Thanks for
> indulging.
>
> Ted you raise good points. I was looking at +/- lines really, not
> commits, which is not affected by squashes, but still problematic.
> Size != significance. Github credits the person who made the PR, not
> who merged it (https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/commits/master
> see authored vs committed) but I think you are saying there are
> significant commits that didn't start with a PR or similar. Recent
> commits follow a similar profile as all commits. I'm not talking so
> much about committers as community contribution. Yeah I'm speaking
> about past not future contributions since graduation has happened now.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> It¹s not a requirement for graduation from the Incubator, as succinctly
>> summarized by Roy (and I am +1 on this):
>>
>> http://markmail.org/message/w56cmyri4osgcgud
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com>.
I'm reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community
"A major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and
diverse meritocratic community ... The project is considered to have a
diverse community when it is not highly dependent on any single
contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent committers and
there is no single company or entity that is vital to the success of
the project). Basically this means that when a project mostly consists
of contributors from one company, this is a sign of not being diverse
enough. You can mitigate this requirement by admitting more external
contributors to your project that have no tie to the single entity."
This seems to contradict the idea that diversity is not required. I
think Roy's saying something else: you shouldn't have to turn down a
job to stay on a project, or leave a project to take a job. Of course.
Nobody wants to kick out contributors, or force addition of people
from other employers, to graduate. Of course, nobody said graduation
is a fait accompli.
The issue seems to have come up before, but is de facto not much
'enforced'. Diversity is great all else equal, but seems unrealistic
to demand on entering incubation. I'm surprised if opinion is that it
also doesn't matter on exit. I think projects, realistically, get
driven by companies, and necessarily often start around one company. A
bit more diversity here would be good but hey. I take the message that
being an Apache project doesn't signify as much as is advertised (see
link above) about the 'community support' or diversity. Maybe just how
it is now and no big deal, but thought I would ask. Thanks for
indulging.
Ted you raise good points. I was looking at +/- lines really, not
commits, which is not affected by squashes, but still problematic.
Size != significance. Github credits the person who made the PR, not
who merged it (https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/commits/master
see authored vs committed) but I think you are saying there are
significant commits that didn't start with a PR or similar. Recent
commits follow a similar profile as all commits. I'm not talking so
much about committers as community contribution. Yeah I'm speaking
about past not future contributions since graduation has happened now.
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> It¹s not a requirement for graduation from the Incubator, as succinctly
> summarized by Roy (and I am +1 on this):
>
> http://markmail.org/message/w56cmyri4osgcgud
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
It¹s not a requirement for graduation from the Incubator, as succinctly
summarized by Roy (and I am +1 on this):
http://markmail.org/message/w56cmyri4osgcgud
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Owen <sr...@apache.org>
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Friday, October 24, 2014 at 11:33 PM
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
>I have no strong opinion on the graduation, sounds fine, but can I ask
>how much of the contribution is not from MapR? I got through the top
>10 contributors, making up maybe 95+% of it, and didn't see any
>non-employees, if my info is right:
>https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/graphs/contributors although
>there are clearly a few in there. It assumes github is an accurate
>reflection of contribution too.
>
>As a meta question I'm wondering the extent to which this is a
>requirement for graduation from the incubator, to not be so dependent
>on one organization. I think we recently saw this isn't a requirement
>going in, but is this suggestive that it's not required for graduation
>either?
>
>On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> This vote to graduate Apache Drill to a top-level project has passed
>>with 9
>> binding +1s and no -1s.
>>
>> Ted Dunning
>> Jake Farrell
>> Henry Saputra
>> Roman Shaposhnik
>> Bertrand Delacretaz
>> Chris Douglas
>> Sebastian Schelter
>> Steve Loughran
>> Alan D. Cabrera
>>
>> This follows a vote on the Drill dev list which passed with 23 +1s.
>>Thanks
>> to everyone for voting. I will now submit the resolution to the board.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tomer
>>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Sean Owen <sr...@apache.org>.
I have no strong opinion on the graduation, sounds fine, but can I ask
how much of the contribution is not from MapR? I got through the top
10 contributors, making up maybe 95+% of it, and didn't see any
non-employees, if my info is right:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/graphs/contributors although
there are clearly a few in there. It assumes github is an accurate
reflection of contribution too.
As a meta question I'm wondering the extent to which this is a
requirement for graduation from the incubator, to not be so dependent
on one organization. I think we recently saw this isn't a requirement
going in, but is this suggestive that it's not required for graduation
either?
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> This vote to graduate Apache Drill to a top-level project has passed with 9
> binding +1s and no -1s.
>
> Ted Dunning
> Jake Farrell
> Henry Saputra
> Roman Shaposhnik
> Bertrand Delacretaz
> Chris Douglas
> Sebastian Schelter
> Steve Loughran
> Alan D. Cabrera
>
> This follows a vote on the Drill dev list which passed with 23 +1s. Thanks
> to everyone for voting. I will now submit the resolution to the board.
>
> Thanks,
> Tomer
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by Tomer Shiran <ts...@gmail.com>.
Oops, you're right, and thanks for the clarification. I missed that when I
was going through the thread. We actually have 11 +1s (and not 9 as
previously stated). In addition to what I listed previously I should have
listed:
Chris A Mattmann
Sergio Fernández
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Thanks Tomer. I also VOTEd +1 on this (binding).
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Chief Architect
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Friday, October 24, 2014 at 11:03 PM
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
>
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >This vote to graduate Apache Drill to a top-level project has passed with
> >9
> >binding +1s and no -1s.
> >
> >Ted Dunning
> >Jake Farrell
> >Henry Saputra
> >Roman Shaposhnik
> >Bertrand Delacretaz
> >Chris Douglas
> >Sebastian Schelter
> >Steve Loughran
> >Alan D. Cabrera
> >
> >This follows a vote on the Drill dev list which passed with 23 +1s. Thanks
> >to everyone for voting. I will now submit the resolution to the board.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Tomer
> >
> >On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I had the wrong link in here as well as non-Apache emails. Here's the
> >> correct information.
> >>
> >> Correct link to PPMC vote:
> >>
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/201410.mbox/
> >>%3CCAJkA4MF%2B5tWRaoGiimpjB_ixbCQFY%3Dq2oEtzAwmeQTFZpds59g%40mail.gmail.c
> >>om%3E
> >>
> >> Updated resolution with Apache emails:
> >>
> >> ---- snip
> >>
> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>establish a
> >> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> >>of
> >> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>related
> >> to interactive analysis of large-scale datasets.
> >>
> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>(PMC),
> >> to be known as the "Apache Drill Project", be and hereby is established
> >> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive
> >>analysis of
> >> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of
> >>"Vice
> >> President, Apache Drill" be and hereby is created, the person holding
> >>such
> >> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>of
> >> the Apache Drill Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> >>management
> >> of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Drill
> >> Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately
> >> below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >> Apache Drill Project:
> >>
> >> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org>
> >> * Tomer Shiran <tshiran at apache dot org>
> >> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
> >> * Jason Frantz <jason at apache dot org>
> >> * MC Srivas <srivas at apache dot org>
> >> * Keys Botzum <kbotzum at apache dot org>
> >> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org>
> >> * Tim Chen <tnachen at apache dot org>
> >> * Mehant Baid <mehant at apache dot org>
> >> * Jinfeng Ni <jni at apache dot org>
> >> * Venki Korukanti <venki at apache dot org>
> >> * Jason Altekruse <json at apache dot org>
> >> * Aditya Kishore <adi at apache dot org>
> >> * Parth Chandra <parthc at apache dot org>
> >> * Aman Sinha <amansinha at apache dot org>
> >> * Steven Phillips <smp at apache dot org>
> >>
> >>
> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jacques Nadeau be appointed
> >> to the office of Vice President, Apache Drill, to serve in accordance
> >>with
> >> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> >> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Drill podling;
> >>and be
> >> it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >> Drill podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter
> >> discharged.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> We wrapped up the vote on the Apache Drill dev list in which the
> >>> community expressed its desire to graduate to a top-level project. That
> >>> vote passed with 23 +1s (http://bit.ly/1tcrHVS) and 0 -1s (including
> >>>the
> >>> project's mentors, PMC members and committers, as well as IPMC
> >>>members).
> >>>
> >>> This is a new VOTE to decide if Apache Drill should graduate from the
> >>> Incubator. Please VOTE on the resolution pasted below the ballot. I'll
> >>> leave this VOTE open for at least 72 hours (October 24, 9:30pm PT).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Drill from the Incubator.
> >>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
> >>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Drill from the Incubator because.. .
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Tomer
> >>>
> >>> ---- snip
> >>>
> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>>establish a
> >>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> >>>of
> >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>related
> >>> to interactive analysis of large-scale datasets.
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Drill Project", be and hereby is
> >>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is responsible
> >>>for
> >>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive
> >>>analysis of
> >>> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of
> >>>"Vice
> >>> President, Apache Drill" be and hereby is created, the person holding
> >>>such
> >>> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the
> >>>chair of
> >>> the Apache Drill Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> >>>management
> >>> of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Drill
> >>> Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed
> >>>immediately
> >>> below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of
> >>>the
> >>> Apache Drill Project:
> >>>
> >>> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org>
> >>> * Tomer Shiran <tshiran at apache dot org>
> >>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
> >>> * Jason Frantz <jasondfrantz at gmail dot com>
> >>> * MC Srivas <mcsrivas at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Keys Botzum <kbotzum at maprtech dot com>
> >>> * Julian Hyde <julianhyde at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Tim Chen <tnachen at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Mehant Baid <baid.mehant at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Jinfeng Ni <jinfengni99 at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Venki Korukanti <venki.korukanti at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Jason Altekruse <altekrusejason at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Aditya Kishore <adityakishore at gmail dot com>
> >>> * Parth Chandra <pchandra at maprtech dot com>
> >>> * Aman Sinha <asinha at maprtech dot com>
> >>> * Steven Phillips <sphillips at maprtech dot com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jacques Nadeau be
> >>>appointed
> >>> to the office of Vice President, Apache Drill, to serve in accordance
> >>>with
> >>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>>of
> >>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is tasked with
> >>>the
> >>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Drill podling;
> >>>and be
> >>> it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >>> Drill podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
> >>>hereafter
> >>> discharged.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Thanks Tomer. I also VOTEd +1 on this (binding).
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org>
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Friday, October 24, 2014 at 11:03 PM
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator
>Hi Everyone,
>
>This vote to graduate Apache Drill to a top-level project has passed with
>9
>binding +1s and no -1s.
>
>Ted Dunning
>Jake Farrell
>Henry Saputra
>Roman Shaposhnik
>Bertrand Delacretaz
>Chris Douglas
>Sebastian Schelter
>Steve Loughran
>Alan D. Cabrera
>
>This follows a vote on the Drill dev list which passed with 23 +1s. Thanks
>to everyone for voting. I will now submit the resolution to the board.
>
>Thanks,
>Tomer
>
>On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I had the wrong link in here as well as non-Apache emails. Here's the
>> correct information.
>>
>> Correct link to PPMC vote:
>>
>>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/201410.mbox/
>>%3CCAJkA4MF%2B5tWRaoGiimpjB_ixbCQFY%3Dq2oEtzAwmeQTFZpds59g%40mail.gmail.c
>>om%3E
>>
>> Updated resolution with Apache emails:
>>
>> ---- snip
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>establish a
>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>related
>> to interactive analysis of large-scale datasets.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>(PMC),
>> to be known as the "Apache Drill Project", be and hereby is established
>> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive
>>analysis of
>> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of
>>"Vice
>> President, Apache Drill" be and hereby is created, the person holding
>>such
>> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>of
>> the Apache Drill Project, and to have primary responsibility for
>>management
>> of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Drill
>> Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately
>> below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache Drill Project:
>>
>> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org>
>> * Tomer Shiran <tshiran at apache dot org>
>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
>> * Jason Frantz <jason at apache dot org>
>> * MC Srivas <srivas at apache dot org>
>> * Keys Botzum <kbotzum at apache dot org>
>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org>
>> * Tim Chen <tnachen at apache dot org>
>> * Mehant Baid <mehant at apache dot org>
>> * Jinfeng Ni <jni at apache dot org>
>> * Venki Korukanti <venki at apache dot org>
>> * Jason Altekruse <json at apache dot org>
>> * Aditya Kishore <adi at apache dot org>
>> * Parth Chandra <parthc at apache dot org>
>> * Aman Sinha <amansinha at apache dot org>
>> * Steven Phillips <smp at apache dot org>
>>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jacques Nadeau be appointed
>> to the office of Vice President, Apache Drill, to serve in accordance
>>with
>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Drill podling;
>>and be
>> it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Drill podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter
>> discharged.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Tomer Shiran <ts...@apache.org>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> We wrapped up the vote on the Apache Drill dev list in which the
>>> community expressed its desire to graduate to a top-level project. That
>>> vote passed with 23 +1s (http://bit.ly/1tcrHVS) and 0 -1s (including
>>>the
>>> project's mentors, PMC members and committers, as well as IPMC
>>>members).
>>>
>>> This is a new VOTE to decide if Apache Drill should graduate from the
>>> Incubator. Please VOTE on the resolution pasted below the ballot. I'll
>>> leave this VOTE open for at least 72 hours (October 24, 9:30pm PT).
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Drill from the Incubator.
>>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Drill from the Incubator because.. .
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tomer
>>>
>>> ---- snip
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>>establish a
>>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>>of
>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>related
>>> to interactive analysis of large-scale datasets.
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Drill Project", be and hereby is
>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is responsible
>>>for
>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive
>>>analysis of
>>> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of
>>>"Vice
>>> President, Apache Drill" be and hereby is created, the person holding
>>>such
>>> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the
>>>chair of
>>> the Apache Drill Project, and to have primary responsibility for
>>>management
>>> of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Drill
>>> Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed
>>>immediately
>>> below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of
>>>the
>>> Apache Drill Project:
>>>
>>> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org>
>>> * Tomer Shiran <tshiran at apache dot org>
>>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
>>> * Jason Frantz <jasondfrantz at gmail dot com>
>>> * MC Srivas <mcsrivas at gmail dot com>
>>> * Keys Botzum <kbotzum at maprtech dot com>
>>> * Julian Hyde <julianhyde at gmail dot com>
>>> * Tim Chen <tnachen at gmail dot com>
>>> * Mehant Baid <baid.mehant at gmail dot com>
>>> * Jinfeng Ni <jinfengni99 at gmail dot com>
>>> * Venki Korukanti <venki.korukanti at gmail dot com>
>>> * Jason Altekruse <altekrusejason at gmail dot com>
>>> * Aditya Kishore <adityakishore at gmail dot com>
>>> * Parth Chandra <pchandra at maprtech dot com>
>>> * Aman Sinha <asinha at maprtech dot com>
>>> * Steven Phillips <sphillips at maprtech dot com>
>>>
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jacques Nadeau be
>>>appointed
>>> to the office of Vice President, Apache Drill, to serve in accordance
>>>with
>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>>>of
>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Drill Project be and hereby is tasked with
>>>the
>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Drill podling;
>>>and be
>>> it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>> Drill podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
>>>hereafter
>>> discharged.
>>>
>>
>>
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