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The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who
come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48%
of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count
of recent visitors, are:
1. open office (326,369)
2. openoffice (213,374)
3. openoffice download (32,188)
4. openoffice.org (21,786)
5. オープンオフィス (13,476)
6. open office mac (11,307)
7. apache openoffice (10,576)
8. open office download (8,964)
9. openoffice for mac (7,395)
10. download open office (7,006)
Note the strong drop after the first two queries.
(And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?)
So what does this all mean?
A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two.
Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the
pull of standard language rules. The noun is "office" and "open" is
an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of
an artificial name like "OpenOffice".
B. The core name in their mind is "OpenOffice"/"Open Office" without
the ".org" or the "Apache". This is what they are searching for when
they look for us.
Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for "open office" end
up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something
else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office
seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room.
This is also an "open office". However, if I look at only
search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the
query "open office" and "openoffice" are also at the very top of the
list.
Regards,
-Rob
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Re: The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
Posted by Ian Lynch <ia...@gmail.com>.
Yes 26 seems to be Japanese. Difficult to know if Chinese are just more
ready to use English - my limited experience seemed to suggest otherwise
since few spoke English at the recent international university education
conference I was speaking at. Had an interpreter, line by line. No-one
seemed to know much about FOSS. Perhaps we just have a very big potential
but untapped market in China ;-).
On 16 August 2013 14:45, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Ian Lynch <ia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Surprised there is no 开放式办公 (Open Office in Chinese) given the
> population.
> >
>
> Looking further down the list, after the top 10, I see the following
> non-English searches:
>
>
> 11. openoffice ダウンロード
>
> 14. open office gratuit
>
> 15. опен офис
>
> 20. 오픈오피스
>
> 24. telecharger open office
>
> 26. オープンオフィス無料ダウンロード
>
> 27. openoffice 日本語
>
> 33. open office pobierz
>
> I can look at the results per search engine, and the most common
> queries for Baidu users are still openoffice, open office and
> openoffice.org. So maybe these versions are more familiar than with
> Chinese characters? Or, if that is the preferred term, our website
> doesn't use it enough so users don't end up finding our website. I
> only get stats for users who actually visit the website. If they
> search for something and don't find us, then we don't have a record of
> that.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Though on a recent trip to China I was surprised at how low the awareness
> > was of AOO.
> >
> >
> > On 16 August 2013 13:21, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 16 August 2013 12:56, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who
> >> > come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48%
> >> > of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count
> >> > of recent visitors, are:
> >> >
> >> > 1. open office (326,369)
> >> > 2. openoffice (213,374)
> >> > 3. openoffice download (32,188)
> >> > 4. openoffice.org (21,786)
> >> > 5. オープンオフィス (13,476)
> >> > 6. open office mac (11,307)
> >> > 7. apache openoffice (10,576)
> >> > 8. open office download (8,964)
> >> > 9. openoffice for mac (7,395)
> >> > 10. download open office (7,006)
> >> >
> >> > Note the strong drop after the first two queries.
> >> >
> >> > (And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?)
> >>
> >> Google Translate says it is Japanese for "open Office" (sic)
> >>
> >> > So what does this all mean?
> >> >
> >> > A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two.
> >> > Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the
> >> > pull of standard language rules. The noun is "office" and "open" is
> >> > an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of
> >> > an artificial name like "OpenOffice".
> >> >
> >> > B. The core name in their mind is "OpenOffice"/"Open Office" without
> >> > the ".org" or the "Apache". This is what they are searching for when
> >> > they look for us.
> >> >
> >> > Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for "open office" end
> >> > up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something
> >> > else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office
> >> > seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room.
> >> > This is also an "open office". However, if I look at only
> >> > search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the
> >> > query "open office" and "openoffice" are also at the very top of the
> >> > list.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > -Rob
> >> >
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Re: The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Ian Lynch <ia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Surprised there is no 开放式办公 (Open Office in Chinese) given the population.
>
Looking further down the list, after the top 10, I see the following
non-English searches:
11. openoffice ダウンロード
14. open office gratuit
15. опен офис
20. 오픈오피스
24. telecharger open office
26. オープンオフィス無料ダウンロード
27. openoffice 日本語
33. open office pobierz
I can look at the results per search engine, and the most common
queries for Baidu users are still openoffice, open office and
openoffice.org. So maybe these versions are more familiar than with
Chinese characters? Or, if that is the preferred term, our website
doesn't use it enough so users don't end up finding our website. I
only get stats for users who actually visit the website. If they
search for something and don't find us, then we don't have a record of
that.
-Rob
> Though on a recent trip to China I was surprised at how low the awareness
> was of AOO.
>
>
> On 16 August 2013 13:21, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 16 August 2013 12:56, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who
>> > come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48%
>> > of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count
>> > of recent visitors, are:
>> >
>> > 1. open office (326,369)
>> > 2. openoffice (213,374)
>> > 3. openoffice download (32,188)
>> > 4. openoffice.org (21,786)
>> > 5. オープンオフィス (13,476)
>> > 6. open office mac (11,307)
>> > 7. apache openoffice (10,576)
>> > 8. open office download (8,964)
>> > 9. openoffice for mac (7,395)
>> > 10. download open office (7,006)
>> >
>> > Note the strong drop after the first two queries.
>> >
>> > (And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?)
>>
>> Google Translate says it is Japanese for "open Office" (sic)
>>
>> > So what does this all mean?
>> >
>> > A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two.
>> > Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the
>> > pull of standard language rules. The noun is "office" and "open" is
>> > an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of
>> > an artificial name like "OpenOffice".
>> >
>> > B. The core name in their mind is "OpenOffice"/"Open Office" without
>> > the ".org" or the "Apache". This is what they are searching for when
>> > they look for us.
>> >
>> > Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for "open office" end
>> > up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something
>> > else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office
>> > seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room.
>> > This is also an "open office". However, if I look at only
>> > search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the
>> > query "open office" and "openoffice" are also at the very top of the
>> > list.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > -Rob
>> >
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>
>
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Re: The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
Posted by Ian Lynch <ia...@gmail.com>.
Surprised there is no 开放式办公 (Open Office in Chinese) given the population.
Though on a recent trip to China I was surprised at how low the awareness
was of AOO.
On 16 August 2013 13:21, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 August 2013 12:56, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who
> > come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48%
> > of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count
> > of recent visitors, are:
> >
> > 1. open office (326,369)
> > 2. openoffice (213,374)
> > 3. openoffice download (32,188)
> > 4. openoffice.org (21,786)
> > 5. オープンオフィス (13,476)
> > 6. open office mac (11,307)
> > 7. apache openoffice (10,576)
> > 8. open office download (8,964)
> > 9. openoffice for mac (7,395)
> > 10. download open office (7,006)
> >
> > Note the strong drop after the first two queries.
> >
> > (And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?)
>
> Google Translate says it is Japanese for "open Office" (sic)
>
> > So what does this all mean?
> >
> > A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two.
> > Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the
> > pull of standard language rules. The noun is "office" and "open" is
> > an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of
> > an artificial name like "OpenOffice".
> >
> > B. The core name in their mind is "OpenOffice"/"Open Office" without
> > the ".org" or the "Apache". This is what they are searching for when
> > they look for us.
> >
> > Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for "open office" end
> > up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something
> > else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office
> > seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room.
> > This is also an "open office". However, if I look at only
> > search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the
> > query "open office" and "openoffice" are also at the very top of the
> > list.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >
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Re: The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 16 August 2013 12:56, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who
> come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48%
> of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count
> of recent visitors, are:
>
> 1. open office (326,369)
> 2. openoffice (213,374)
> 3. openoffice download (32,188)
> 4. openoffice.org (21,786)
> 5. オープンオフィス (13,476)
> 6. open office mac (11,307)
> 7. apache openoffice (10,576)
> 8. open office download (8,964)
> 9. openoffice for mac (7,395)
> 10. download open office (7,006)
>
> Note the strong drop after the first two queries.
>
> (And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?)
Google Translate says it is Japanese for "open Office" (sic)
> So what does this all mean?
>
> A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two.
> Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the
> pull of standard language rules. The noun is "office" and "open" is
> an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of
> an artificial name like "OpenOffice".
>
> B. The core name in their mind is "OpenOffice"/"Open Office" without
> the ".org" or the "Apache". This is what they are searching for when
> they look for us.
>
> Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for "open office" end
> up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something
> else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office
> seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room.
> This is also an "open office". However, if I look at only
> search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the
> query "open office" and "openoffice" are also at the very top of the
> list.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
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Re: The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/16/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who
> come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48%
> of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count
> of recent visitors, are:
>
> 1. open office (326,369)
> 2. openoffice (213,374)
> 3. openoffice download (32,188)
> 4. openoffice.org (21,786)
> 5. オープンオフィス (13,476)
> 6. open office mac (11,307)
> 7. apache openoffice (10,576)
> 8. open office download (8,964)
> 9. openoffice for mac (7,395)
> 10. download open office (7,006)
>
> Note the strong drop after the first two queries.
>
> (And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?)
http://translate.google.de/?q=%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%97%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AA%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%82%B9&oe=utf-8&hl=en
;-)
> So what does this all mean?
>
> A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two.
> Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the
> pull of standard language rules. The noun is "office" and "open" is
> an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of
> an artificial name like "OpenOffice".
Or it's just how they read it from some press atricles. Very often they
write it just wrong.
> B. The core name in their mind is "OpenOffice"/"Open Office" without
> the ".org" or the "Apache". This is what they are searching for when
> they look for us.
>
> Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for "open office" end
> up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something
> else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office
> seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room.
> This is also an "open office". However, if I look at only
> search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the
> query "open office" and "openoffice" are also at the very top of the
> list.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
Marcus
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Re: The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/16/2013 01:56 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who
> come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48%
> of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count
> of recent visitors, are:
>
> 1. open office (326,369)
> 2. openoffice (213,374)
> 3. openoffice download (32,188)
> 4. openoffice.org (21,786)
> 5. オープンオフィス (13,476)
> 6. open office mac (11,307)
> 7. apache openoffice (10,576)
> 8. open office download (8,964)
> 9. openoffice for mac (7,395)
> 10. download open office (7,006)
>
> Note the strong drop after the first two queries.
>
> (And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?)
http://translate.google.de/?q=%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%97%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AA%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%82%B9&oe=utf-8&hl=en
;-)
> So what does this all mean?
>
> A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two.
> Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the
> pull of standard language rules. The noun is "office" and "open" is
> an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of
> an artificial name like "OpenOffice".
Or it's just how they read it from some press atricles. Very often they
write it just wrong.
> B. The core name in their mind is "OpenOffice"/"Open Office" without
> the ".org" or the "Apache". This is what they are searching for when
> they look for us.
>
> Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for "open office" end
> up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something
> else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office
> seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room.
> This is also an "open office". However, if I look at only
> search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the
> query "open office" and "openoffice" are also at the very top of the
> list.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
Marcus
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