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Posted to dev@lucene.apache.org by Chris Hostetter <ho...@apache.org> on 2012/10/12 00:11:48 UTC

Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

FWIW: I followed the same pattern as what we did with the beta "news" and 
included only "Noteworthy changes since 4.0-BETA" in the 4.0 news ... not 
sure if people have any better suggestions and/or think we should feature 
any of the highlights already mentioned in the alpha/beta news posts.



: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:03:24 -0000
: From: hossman@apache.org
: Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org
: To: commits@lucene.apache.org
: Subject: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content:
:     core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext
: 
: Author: hossman
: Date: Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
: New Revision: 1397332
: 
: URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1397332&view=rev
: Log:
: highlights of the highlights for the news section
: 
: Modified:
:     lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext
:     lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext
:     lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext
: 
: Modified: lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext
: URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext?rev=1397332&r1=1397331&r2=1397332&view=diff
: ==============================================================================
: --- lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext (original)
: +++ lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
: @@ -1,5 +1,24 @@
:  # Lucene Core News
:  
: +## 12 October 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0 Available
: +
: +The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the release of Apache Lucene 4.0
: +
: +Apache Lucene is a high-performance, full-featured text search engine
: +library written entirely in Java. It is a technology suitable for nearly
: +any application that requires full-text search, especially cross-platform.
: +
: +This release contains numerous bug fixes, optimizations, and improvements, some of which are highlighted below.  The release is available for immediate download at: <a href="/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html?">http://lucene.apache.org/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html</a>
: +
: +See the <a href="/core/4_0_0/changes/Changes.html">CHANGES.txt</a> file included with the release for a full list of details.
: +
: +Noteworthy changes since 4.0-BETA:
: + 
: +* A new "Block" PostingsFormat offering improved search performance and index compression. This will likely become the default format in a future release.
: +* All non-default codec implementations were moved to a separated codecs module. Just add lucene-codecs-4.0.0.jar to your classpath to test these out.
: +* Payloads can be optionally stored on the term vectors.
: +* Many bugfixes and optimizations.
: +
:  ## 13 August 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0-BETA
:  
:  Apache Lucene is a high-performance, full-featured text search engine
: 
: Modified: lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext
: URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext?rev=1397332&r1=1397331&r2=1397332&view=diff
: ==============================================================================
: --- lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext (original)
: +++ lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
: @@ -1,5 +1,26 @@
:  # News
:  
: +## 12 October 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0 and Solr 4.0 Available
: +
: +The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the availability of Apache Lucene 4.0 and Apache Solr 4.0.
: +
: +Lucene can be downloaded from <a href="/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html">http://lucene.apache.org/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html</a> and Solr can be downloaded from <a href="/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html">http://lucene.apache.org/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html</a>
: +
: +Noteworthy changes since Lucene 4.0-BETA:
: + 
: +* A new "Block" PostingsFormat offering improved search performance and index compression. This will likely become the default format in a future release.
: +* All non-default codec implementations were moved to a separated codecs module. Just add lucene-codecs-4.0.0.jar to your classpath to test these out.
: +* Payloads can be optionally stored on the term vectors.
: +* Many bugfixes and optimizations.
: +
: +Noteworthy changes since Solr 4.0-BETA:
: +
: +* New spatial field types with polygon support.
: +* Various Admin UI improvements.
: +* SolrCloud related performance optimizations in writing the the transaction log, PeerSync recovery, Leader election, and ClusterState caching.
: +* Numerous bug fixes and optimizations.
: +
: +
:  ##14 August 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0-BETA and Solr 4.0-BETA Available
:  
:  The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the availability
: 
: Modified: lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext
: URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext?rev=1397332&r1=1397331&r2=1397332&view=diff
: ==============================================================================
: --- lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext (original)
: +++ lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
: @@ -1,5 +1,23 @@
:  # Solr News
:  
: +## 12 October 2012 - Apache Solr 4.0 Available
: +
: +The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the release of Apache Solr 4.0. 
: +
: +Solr is the popular, blazing fast, open source NoSQL search platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic clustering, database integration, rich document (e.g., Word, PDF) handling, and geospatial search.  Solr is highly scalable, providing fault tolerant distributed search and indexing, and powers the search and navigation features of many of the world's largest internet sites.
: +
: +Solr 4.0 is available for immediate download at: <a href="/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html?">http://lucene.apache.org/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html</a>
: +
: +See the <a href="/solr/4_0_0/changes/Changes.html">CHANGES.txt</a> file included with the release for a full list of details.
: +
: +Noteworthy changes since 4.0-BETA:
: +
: +* New spatial field types with polygon support.
: +* Various Admin UI improvements.
: +* SolrCloud related performance optimizations in writing the the transaction log, PeerSync recovery, Leader election, and ClusterState caching.
: +* Numerous bug fixes and optimizations.
: +
: +
:  ## 14 August 2012 - Apache Solr 4.0-beta available
:  
:  The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the release of Apache Solr 4.0-beta.
: 
: 
: 

-Hoss

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Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@basetechnology.com>.
As long as the unified change list is easy to get to (for people who are 
primarily concerned with how 4.0 is different from 3.x), the abbreviated 
news is probably fine.

-- Jack Krupansky

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core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext


: for this one my idea was to just blow away ALPHA and BETA completely
: there and just have our full 4.0 release notes (which are cumulative
: but also have the nice section for people that were testing BETA).

I don't know how i feel about deleting items from the news page ... seems
kind of wrong.

It hand't really occured to me until you mentioned up, but having beta &
alpha news right below the "final" news item makes me think just including
the improvements since beta really makes a lot of sense in the concext of
this page -- as opposed to the announcement email where there is no
context and we list all the major improvements since 3.6.

That said: don't let me hold you back if you think one unified news
announcement with all the highlights makes more sense.  I don't feel
strongly about it.


-Hoss

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Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Chris Hostetter
<ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
>
> : I did this before because of how this mirror-redirector works. the
> : news items for old releases are actually broken in a confusing way.
>
> I think you and i have had this disagreement before.
>

We have, because it works both ways:
* it confuses people that sometimes the redirector sends you to an
OLDER release than what you asked for.
* it confuses people when it goes to a NEWER release than what you
aske dfor either.

I opened LUCENE-4478 for this, the caching issues are crazy enough for
committers alone just trying to make sure the website is correct.

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Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: I did this before because of how this mirror-redirector works. the
: news items for old releases are actually broken in a confusing way.

I think you and i have had this disagreement before.

You think it's bad that someone who finds that link and follows it will 
get sent to a *differnet* version then what they thought.  i think it's 
good because it helps people who may be under the misconception about 
what the *newest* version version discover that there is something better 
then they might have thought.

I would rather deal with the extremely rare situation of someone who asks 
on the mailing list "How do i download old version X.Y" by poiting them to 
hte archive; then risk folks who don't know any better downloading an old 
release w/o realizing there is something newer they should be using.


-Hoss

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Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Chris Hostetter
> <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
>>
>> : for this one my idea was to just blow away ALPHA and BETA completely
>> : there and just have our full 4.0 release notes (which are cumulative
>> : but also have the nice section for people that were testing BETA).
>>
>> I don't know how i feel about deleting items from the news page ... seems
>> kind of wrong.
>>
>
> I did this before because of how this mirror-redirector works. the
> news items for old releases are actually broken in a confusing way.
>

In addition to this the mirror-redirector still has caching issues
because of how it works.

Chances are high that some people will be confused and click 4.0 and
be led to 4.0-BETA or something older.

I know this because i have to totally clear my browser cache and close
and reopen the browser and crazy stuff to even test things.

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Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Chris Hostetter
<ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
>
> : for this one my idea was to just blow away ALPHA and BETA completely
> : there and just have our full 4.0 release notes (which are cumulative
> : but also have the nice section for people that were testing BETA).
>
> I don't know how i feel about deleting items from the news page ... seems
> kind of wrong.
>

I did this before because of how this mirror-redirector works. the
news items for old releases are actually broken in a confusing way.

forget about staging, check out production right now:

The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the availability of Apache
Lucene 4.0-ALPHA and Apache Solr 4.0-ALPHA

Lucene can be downloaded from
http://lucene.apache.org/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html <-- yeah
thats going to give you BETA!

> That said: don't let me hold you back if you think one unified news
> announcement with all the highlights makes more sense.  I don't feel
> strongly about it.
>

no way i'm gonna do it now that the work is done. and i looked at the
site, it reads easily: its not worth it.

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Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: for this one my idea was to just blow away ALPHA and BETA completely
: there and just have our full 4.0 release notes (which are cumulative
: but also have the nice section for people that were testing BETA).

I don't know how i feel about deleting items from the news page ... seems 
kind of wrong.

It hand't really occured to me until you mentioned up, but having beta & 
alpha news right below the "final" news item makes me think just including 
the improvements since beta really makes a lot of sense in the concext of 
this page -- as opposed to the announcement email where there is no 
context and we list all the major improvements since 3.6.

That said: don't let me hold you back if you think one unified news 
announcement with all the highlights makes more sense.  I don't feel 
strongly about it.


-Hoss

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Re: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content: core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
We can do it this way (esp. since you did all the work), a different
way i had thought about it was:

when we released the BETA, the notes were incomplete so i kept the
ALPHA stuff too.

for this one my idea was to just blow away ALPHA and BETA completely
there and just have our full 4.0 release notes (which are cumulative
but also have the nice section for people that were testing BETA).

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Chris Hostetter <ho...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> FWIW: I followed the same pattern as what we did with the beta "news" and
> included only "Noteworthy changes since 4.0-BETA" in the 4.0 news ... not
> sure if people have any better suggestions and/or think we should feature
> any of the highlights already mentioned in the alpha/beta news posts.
>
>
>
> : Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:03:24 -0000
> : From: hossman@apache.org
> : Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> : To: commits@lucene.apache.org
> : Subject: svn commit: r1397332 - in /lucene/cms/trunk/content:
> :     core/corenews.mdtext mainnews.mdtext solr/solrnews.mdtext
> :
> : Author: hossman
> : Date: Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
> : New Revision: 1397332
> :
> : URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1397332&view=rev
> : Log:
> : highlights of the highlights for the news section
> :
> : Modified:
> :     lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext
> :     lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext
> :     lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext
> :
> : Modified: lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext
> : URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext?rev=1397332&r1=1397331&r2=1397332&view=diff
> : ==============================================================================
> : --- lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext (original)
> : +++ lucene/cms/trunk/content/core/corenews.mdtext Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
> : @@ -1,5 +1,24 @@
> :  # Lucene Core News
> :
> : +## 12 October 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0 Available
> : +
> : +The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the release of Apache Lucene 4.0
> : +
> : +Apache Lucene is a high-performance, full-featured text search engine
> : +library written entirely in Java. It is a technology suitable for nearly
> : +any application that requires full-text search, especially cross-platform.
> : +
> : +This release contains numerous bug fixes, optimizations, and improvements, some of which are highlighted below.  The release is available for immediate download at: <a href="/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html?">http://lucene.apache.org/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html</a>
> : +
> : +See the <a href="/core/4_0_0/changes/Changes.html">CHANGES.txt</a> file included with the release for a full list of details.
> : +
> : +Noteworthy changes since 4.0-BETA:
> : +
> : +* A new "Block" PostingsFormat offering improved search performance and index compression. This will likely become the default format in a future release.
> : +* All non-default codec implementations were moved to a separated codecs module. Just add lucene-codecs-4.0.0.jar to your classpath to test these out.
> : +* Payloads can be optionally stored on the term vectors.
> : +* Many bugfixes and optimizations.
> : +
> :  ## 13 August 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0-BETA
> :
> :  Apache Lucene is a high-performance, full-featured text search engine
> :
> : Modified: lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext
> : URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext?rev=1397332&r1=1397331&r2=1397332&view=diff
> : ==============================================================================
> : --- lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext (original)
> : +++ lucene/cms/trunk/content/mainnews.mdtext Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
> : @@ -1,5 +1,26 @@
> :  # News
> :
> : +## 12 October 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0 and Solr 4.0 Available
> : +
> : +The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the availability of Apache Lucene 4.0 and Apache Solr 4.0.
> : +
> : +Lucene can be downloaded from <a href="/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html">http://lucene.apache.org/core/mirrors-core-latest-redir.html</a> and Solr can be downloaded from <a href="/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html">http://lucene.apache.org/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html</a>
> : +
> : +Noteworthy changes since Lucene 4.0-BETA:
> : +
> : +* A new "Block" PostingsFormat offering improved search performance and index compression. This will likely become the default format in a future release.
> : +* All non-default codec implementations were moved to a separated codecs module. Just add lucene-codecs-4.0.0.jar to your classpath to test these out.
> : +* Payloads can be optionally stored on the term vectors.
> : +* Many bugfixes and optimizations.
> : +
> : +Noteworthy changes since Solr 4.0-BETA:
> : +
> : +* New spatial field types with polygon support.
> : +* Various Admin UI improvements.
> : +* SolrCloud related performance optimizations in writing the the transaction log, PeerSync recovery, Leader election, and ClusterState caching.
> : +* Numerous bug fixes and optimizations.
> : +
> : +
> :  ##14 August 2012 - Lucene Core 4.0-BETA and Solr 4.0-BETA Available
> :
> :  The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the availability
> :
> : Modified: lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext
> : URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext?rev=1397332&r1=1397331&r2=1397332&view=diff
> : ==============================================================================
> : --- lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext (original)
> : +++ lucene/cms/trunk/content/solr/solrnews.mdtext Thu Oct 11 22:03:23 2012
> : @@ -1,5 +1,23 @@
> :  # Solr News
> :
> : +## 12 October 2012 - Apache Solr 4.0 Available
> : +
> : +The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the release of Apache Solr 4.0.
> : +
> : +Solr is the popular, blazing fast, open source NoSQL search platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic clustering, database integration, rich document (e.g., Word, PDF) handling, and geospatial search.  Solr is highly scalable, providing fault tolerant distributed search and indexing, and powers the search and navigation features of many of the world's largest internet sites.
> : +
> : +Solr 4.0 is available for immediate download at: <a href="/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html?">http://lucene.apache.org/solr/mirrors-solr-latest-redir.html</a>
> : +
> : +See the <a href="/solr/4_0_0/changes/Changes.html">CHANGES.txt</a> file included with the release for a full list of details.
> : +
> : +Noteworthy changes since 4.0-BETA:
> : +
> : +* New spatial field types with polygon support.
> : +* Various Admin UI improvements.
> : +* SolrCloud related performance optimizations in writing the the transaction log, PeerSync recovery, Leader election, and ClusterState caching.
> : +* Numerous bug fixes and optimizations.
> : +
> : +
> :  ## 14 August 2012 - Apache Solr 4.0-beta available
> :
> :  The Lucene PMC is pleased to announce the release of Apache Solr 4.0-beta.
> :
> :
> :
>
> -Hoss
>
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