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Posted to dev@iotdb.apache.org by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> on 2020/03/06 00:46:02 UTC
Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Hi all,
In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by jira (hard
to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while commuting)".
How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be forwarded
directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed sometimes we
have too many JIRA notifications.
Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of ISSUE to
reduce the notifications?
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
+1 for using notification mailling list , it saves the time for us to
configure the mail filiter.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 4:30 PM Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> When I applied to change the notifications [1], Chris Lambertus pointed
> out that we may need a new mailing list notifications@ to receives JIRA
> notification.
>
> I think it may help us to be out of stuck.
>
> If we have such a mailing list, then for those bug-fix issues, only
> developers need to focus on that.
> So, we recommend to let all current active developers subscribe to the
> mailing list.
>
> For new requirement discussions, new feature discussions and the roadmap
> discussions,
> even if they appear on the JIRA first, we can forward them manually to dev@
> mailing list, to attract more users that may be interested in.
>
> How about the proposal?
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
>
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月10日周二 下午3:41写道：
>
> > Hi Xiangdong,
> >
> > that's unfortunate, so I will probably continue to just skip jira emails.
> >
> > However if discussions keep being done in Jira, then I should probably
> > resign as a mentor as I am not willing to process these automated emails.
> >
> > If the project likes the status quo, that's absolutely fine. After all ...
> > all is happening on the list.
> >
> > It's just that I am signed up to about 50 lists at apache and have to
> > optimize how I process them if I don't want my contribution in the oss
> > world to be just being up to date with all that's happening and not having
> > any time left to contribute.
> >
> > So I just filter out all emails that require an increased time to read and
> > usually have a limited payload.
> > This usually relates totally escalating threads (posts coming in faster
> > than I can read them) and generally all Jira emails except the PLC4X ones.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 10.03.20, 03:23 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1].
> >
> > So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to:
> > 1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list;
> > 2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and change
> > the
> > email title.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> >
> > Best,
> > -----------------------------------
> > Xiangdong Huang
> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >
> > 黄向东
> > 清华大学 软件学院
> >
> >
> > Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道：
> >
> > > Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
> > >
> > > - Xin
> > >
> > > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >
> > > > 黄向东
> > > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented"
> > event
> > > > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic
> > Event"
> > > > event
> > > > > notifications now).
> > > > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the
> > subject
> > > of
> > > > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT
> > TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
> > > > title"
> > > > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible
> > according
> > > to
> > > > > [2].
> > > > >
> > > > > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> > > > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to
> > INFRA JIRA.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another
> > > > solution:
> > > > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot
> > > subscribes
> > > > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to
> > dev@
> > > > > mailing list with a better title format.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> > > > > [2]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > > >
> > > > > 黄向东
> > > > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五
> > 下午7:54写道：
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi folks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for
> > me in
> > > my
> > > > >> inbox:
> > > > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I
> > can
> > > get.
> > > > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am
> > not
> > > > >> willing
> > > > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are
> > about.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira
> > emails
> > > > >> drastically ...
> > > > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of
> > the
> > > title
> > > > >> text,
> > > > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Chris
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> +1
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <
> > j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> > > > 写道：
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > +1 from me also!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hi，
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our
> > work.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and
> > gradually
> > > > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks
> > > > >> > ---
> > > > >> > Dawei Liu
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira
> > creation and
> > > > >> comment.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> - Xin
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五
> > > 上午9:12写道：
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue,
> > linking PR,
> > > > >> assigning
> > > > >> >>> issue...
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Like this:
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >> >>> [
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> > > > >> >>> ]
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> > > > >> >>> ----------------------------------------
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> > > > >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > > >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > > >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> > > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> > [IOTDB-498]
> > > > >> Support date
> > > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git
> > Service.
> > > > >> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and
> > use the
> > > > >> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> For queries about this service, please contact
> > Infrastructure
> > > > at:
> > > > >> >>> users@infra.apache.org
> > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> > [IOTDB-498]
> > > > >> Support date
> > > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Thanks,
> > > > >> >>> --
> > > > >> >>> Jialin Qiao
> > > > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> 乔嘉林
> > > > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> > > > >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> > > > >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> > > > >> >>>> 抄送:
> > > > >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Hi all,
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic
> > generated
> > > by
> > > > >> jira
> > > > >> >>> (hard
> > > > >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date
> > while
> > > > >> commuting)".
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can
> > be
> > > > >> forwarded
> > > > >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But
> > indeed
> > > > >> sometimes
> > > > >> >>> we
> > > > >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed
> > event" of
> > > > >> ISSUE to
> > > > >> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> [1]
> > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Best,
> > > > >> >>>> -----------------------------------
> > > > >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> > > > >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> 黄向东
> > > > >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> --
> > > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > > >> >> Xin
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > Xin
> > >
> >
> >
> >
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
There are some details need to discuss. Then I will open a VOTE to decide
whether we create a new mailing list or not.
If we forward JIRA notifications to a new mailing list,
1. Which kind of events need to be forwarded?
- issue created
- issue updated
- issue assigned
- issue resolved
- issue closed
- issue commented
- issue comment edited
- issue comment deleted
- issue reopened
- issue deleted
- issue moved
- Generic Event
In my opinion, I'd like to open the following events:
- issue created
- issue assigned
- issue resolved
- issue commented
- issue reopened
Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月10日周二 下午9:14写道：
> Sounds good to me :)
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 10.03.20, 09:30 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> When I applied to change the notifications [1], Chris Lambertus
> pointed
> out that we may need a new mailing list notifications@ to receives
> JIRA
> notification.
>
> I think it may help us to be out of stuck.
>
> If we have such a mailing list, then for those bug-fix issues, only
> developers need to focus on that.
> So, we recommend to let all current active developers subscribe to the
> mailing list.
>
> For new requirement discussions, new feature discussions and the
> roadmap
> discussions,
> even if they appear on the JIRA first, we can forward them manually to
> dev@
> mailing list, to attract more users that may be interested in.
>
> How about the proposal?
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
>
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月10日周二 下午3:41写道：
>
> > Hi Xiangdong,
> >
> > that's unfortunate, so I will probably continue to just skip jira
> emails.
> >
> > However if discussions keep being done in Jira, then I should
> probably
> > resign as a mentor as I am not willing to process these automated
> emails.
> >
> > If the project likes the status quo, that's absolutely fine. After
> all ...
> > all is happening on the list.
> >
> > It's just that I am signed up to about 50 lists at apache and have to
> > optimize how I process them if I don't want my contribution in the
> oss
> > world to be just being up to date with all that's happening and not
> having
> > any time left to contribute.
> >
> > So I just filter out all emails that require an increased time to
> read and
> > usually have a limited payload.
> > This usually relates totally escalating threads (posts coming in
> faster
> > than I can read them) and generally all Jira emails except the PLC4X
> ones.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 10.03.20, 03:23 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1].
> >
> > So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to:
> > 1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list;
> > 2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and
> change
> > the
> > email title.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> >
> > Best,
> > -----------------------------------
> > Xiangdong Huang
> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >
> > 黄向东
> > 清华大学 软件学院
> >
> >
> > Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道：
> >
> > > Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
> > >
> > > - Xin
> > >
> > > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >
> > > > 黄向东
> > > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and
> "commented"
> > event
> > > > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and
> "Generic
> > Event"
> > > > event
> > > > > notifications now).
> > > > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of
> the
> > subject
> > > of
> > > > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT
> > TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
> > > > title"
> > > > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible
> > according
> > > to
> > > > > [2].
> > > > >
> > > > > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> > > > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to
> > INFRA JIRA.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is
> another
> > > > solution:
> > > > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a
> robot
> > > subscribes
> > > > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends
> it to
> > dev@
> > > > > mailing list with a better title format.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> > > > > [2]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > > >
> > > > > 黄向东
> > > > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五
> > 下午7:54写道：
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi folks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks
> like for
> > me in
> > > my
> > > > >> inbox:
> > > > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no
> information I
> > can
> > > get.
> > > > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content
> or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as
> I am
> > not
> > > > >> willing
> > > > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are
> > about.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira
> > emails
> > > > >> drastically ...
> > > > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see
> more of
> > the
> > > title
> > > > >> text,
> > > > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails
> better.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Chris
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <langlige123@hotmail.com
> >:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> +1
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <
> > j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> > > > 写道：
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > +1 from me also!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <
> atoildw@163.com>:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hi，
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I think this is a good thing because chair
> noticed our
> > work.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email
> and
> > gradually
> > > > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks
> > > > >> > ---
> > > > >> > Dawei Liu
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com>
> 写道：
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira
> > creation and
> > > > >> comment.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> - Xin
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>
> 于2020年3月6日周五
> > > 上午9:12写道：
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue,
> > linking PR,
> > > > >> assigning
> > > > >> >>> issue...
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Like this:
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >> >>> [
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> > > > >> >>> ]
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> > > > >> >>> ----------------------------------------
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> > > > >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > > >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > > >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> > > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> > [IOTDB-498]
> > > > >> Support date
> > > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > > >> >>> URL:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Service.
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> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> > [IOTDB-498]
> > > > >> Support date
> > > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > > >> >>> URL:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Thanks,
> > > > >> >>> --
> > > > >> >>> Jialin Qiao
> > > > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> 乔嘉林
> > > > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> > > > >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> > > > >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> > > > >> >>>> 抄送:
> > > > >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA
> notification
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Hi all,
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email
> traffic
> > generated
> > > by
> > > > >> jira
> > > > >> >>> (hard
> > > > >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to
> date
> > while
> > > > >> commuting)".
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on
> JIRA can
> > be
> > > > >> forwarded
> > > > >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is
> convenient. But
> > indeed
> > > > >> sometimes
> > > > >> >>> we
> > > > >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like
> "closed
> > event" of
> > > > >> ISSUE to
> > > > >> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> [1]
> > > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Best,
> > > > >> >>>> -----------------------------------
> > > > >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> > > > >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> 黄向东
> > > > >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> --
> > > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > > >> >> Xin
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > Xin
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Sounds good to me :)
Chris
Am 10.03.20, 09:30 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:
Hi Chris,
When I applied to change the notifications [1], Chris Lambertus pointed
out that we may need a new mailing list notifications@ to receives JIRA
notification.
I think it may help us to be out of stuck.
If we have such a mailing list, then for those bug-fix issues, only
developers need to focus on that.
So, we recommend to let all current active developers subscribe to the
mailing list.
For new requirement discussions, new feature discussions and the roadmap
discussions,
even if they appear on the JIRA first, we can forward them manually to dev@
mailing list, to attract more users that may be interested in.
How about the proposal?
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月10日周二 下午3:41写道：
> Hi Xiangdong,
>
> that's unfortunate, so I will probably continue to just skip jira emails.
>
> However if discussions keep being done in Jira, then I should probably
> resign as a mentor as I am not willing to process these automated emails.
>
> If the project likes the status quo, that's absolutely fine. After all ...
> all is happening on the list.
>
> It's just that I am signed up to about 50 lists at apache and have to
> optimize how I process them if I don't want my contribution in the oss
> world to be just being up to date with all that's happening and not having
> any time left to contribute.
>
> So I just filter out all emails that require an increased time to read and
> usually have a limited payload.
> This usually relates totally escalating threads (posts coming in faster
> than I can read them) and generally all Jira emails except the PLC4X ones.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> Am 10.03.20, 03:23 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1].
>
> So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to:
> 1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list;
> 2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and change
> the
> email title.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
>
> Best,
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道：
>
> > Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
> >
> > - Xin
> >
> > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道：
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >
> > > 黄向东
> > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > >
> > >
> > > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
> > > >
> > > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented"
> event
> > > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic
> Event"
> > > event
> > > > notifications now).
> > > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the
> subject
> > of
> > > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT
> TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
> > > title"
> > > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible
> according
> > to
> > > > [2].
> > > >
> > > > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> > > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to
> INFRA JIRA.
> > > >
> > > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another
> > > solution:
> > > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot
> > subscribes
> > > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to
> dev@
> > > > mailing list with a better title format.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >
> > > > 黄向东
> > > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五
> 下午7:54写道：
> > > >
> > > >> Hi folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for
> me in
> > my
> > > >> inbox:
> > > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
> > > >>
> > > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I
> can
> > get.
> > > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
> > > >>
> > > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am
> not
> > > >> willing
> > > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are
> about.
> > > >>
> > > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira
> emails
> > > >> drastically ...
> > > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of
> the
> > title
> > > >> text,
> > > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
> > > >>
> > > >> Chris
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >> +1
> > > >>
> > > >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <
> j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> > > 写道：
> > > >> >
> > > >> > +1 from me also!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi，
> > > >> >
> > > >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our
> work.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and
> gradually
> > > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > ---
> > > >> > Dawei Liu
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira
> creation and
> > > >> comment.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> - Xin
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五
> > 上午9:12写道：
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue,
> linking PR,
> > > >> assigning
> > > >> >>> issue...
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Like this:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>> [
> > > >> >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> > > >> >>> ]
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> > > >> >>> ----------------------------------------
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> > > >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> [IOTDB-498]
> > > >> Support date
> > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git
> Service.
> > > >> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and
> use the
> > > >> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> For queries about this service, please contact
> Infrastructure
> > > at:
> > > >> >>> users@infra.apache.org
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> [IOTDB-498]
> > > >> Support date
> > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Thanks,
> > > >> >>> --
> > > >> >>> Jialin Qiao
> > > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> 乔嘉林
> > > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> > > >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> > > >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> > > >> >>>> 抄送:
> > > >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Hi all,
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic
> generated
> > by
> > > >> jira
> > > >> >>> (hard
> > > >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date
> while
> > > >> commuting)".
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can
> be
> > > >> forwarded
> > > >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But
> indeed
> > > >> sometimes
> > > >> >>> we
> > > >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed
> event" of
> > > >> ISSUE to
> > > >> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> [1]
> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Best,
> > > >> >>>> -----------------------------------
> > > >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> > > >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> 黄向东
> > > >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >> Xin
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Xin
> >
>
>
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,
When I applied to change the notifications [1], Chris Lambertus pointed
out that we may need a new mailing list notifications@ to receives JIRA
notification.
I think it may help us to be out of stuck.
If we have such a mailing list, then for those bug-fix issues, only
developers need to focus on that.
So, we recommend to let all current active developers subscribe to the
mailing list.
For new requirement discussions, new feature discussions and the roadmap
discussions,
even if they appear on the JIRA first, we can forward them manually to dev@
mailing list, to attract more users that may be interested in.
How about the proposal?
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月10日周二 下午3:41写道：
> Hi Xiangdong,
>
> that's unfortunate, so I will probably continue to just skip jira emails.
>
> However if discussions keep being done in Jira, then I should probably
> resign as a mentor as I am not willing to process these automated emails.
>
> If the project likes the status quo, that's absolutely fine. After all ...
> all is happening on the list.
>
> It's just that I am signed up to about 50 lists at apache and have to
> optimize how I process them if I don't want my contribution in the oss
> world to be just being up to date with all that's happening and not having
> any time left to contribute.
>
> So I just filter out all emails that require an increased time to read and
> usually have a limited payload.
> This usually relates totally escalating threads (posts coming in faster
> than I can read them) and generally all Jira emails except the PLC4X ones.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> Am 10.03.20, 03:23 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1].
>
> So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to:
> 1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list;
> 2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and change
> the
> email title.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
>
> Best,
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道：
>
> > Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
> >
> > - Xin
> >
> > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道：
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >
> > > 黄向东
> > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > >
> > >
> > > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
> > > >
> > > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented"
> event
> > > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic
> Event"
> > > event
> > > > notifications now).
> > > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the
> subject
> > of
> > > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT
> TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
> > > title"
> > > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible
> according
> > to
> > > > [2].
> > > >
> > > > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> > > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to
> INFRA JIRA.
> > > >
> > > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another
> > > solution:
> > > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot
> > subscribes
> > > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to
> dev@
> > > > mailing list with a better title format.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > -----------------------------------
> > > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >
> > > > 黄向东
> > > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五
> 下午7:54写道：
> > > >
> > > >> Hi folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for
> me in
> > my
> > > >> inbox:
> > > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
> > > >>
> > > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I
> can
> > get.
> > > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
> > > >>
> > > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am
> not
> > > >> willing
> > > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are
> about.
> > > >>
> > > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira
> emails
> > > >> drastically ...
> > > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of
> the
> > title
> > > >> text,
> > > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
> > > >>
> > > >> Chris
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >> +1
> > > >>
> > > >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <
> j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> > > 写道：
> > > >> >
> > > >> > +1 from me also!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi，
> > > >> >
> > > >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our
> work.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and
> gradually
> > > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > ---
> > > >> > Dawei Liu
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira
> creation and
> > > >> comment.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> - Xin
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五
> > 上午9:12写道：
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue,
> linking PR,
> > > >> assigning
> > > >> >>> issue...
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Like this:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>> [
> > > >> >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> > > >> >>> ]
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> > > >> >>> ----------------------------------------
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> > > >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > > >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> [IOTDB-498]
> > > >> Support date
> > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git
> Service.
> > > >> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and
> use the
> > > >> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> For queries about this service, please contact
> Infrastructure
> > > at:
> > > >> >>> users@infra.apache.org
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878:
> [IOTDB-498]
> > > >> Support date
> > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Thanks,
> > > >> >>> --
> > > >> >>> Jialin Qiao
> > > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> 乔嘉林
> > > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> > > >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> > > >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> > > >> >>>> 抄送:
> > > >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Hi all,
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic
> generated
> > by
> > > >> jira
> > > >> >>> (hard
> > > >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date
> while
> > > >> commuting)".
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can
> be
> > > >> forwarded
> > > >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But
> indeed
> > > >> sometimes
> > > >> >>> we
> > > >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed
> event" of
> > > >> ISSUE to
> > > >> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> [1]
> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Best,
> > > >> >>>> -----------------------------------
> > > >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> > > >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> 黄向东
> > > >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >> Xin
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Xin
> >
>
>
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Xiangdong,
that's unfortunate, so I will probably continue to just skip jira emails.
However if discussions keep being done in Jira, then I should probably resign as a mentor as I am not willing to process these automated emails.
If the project likes the status quo, that's absolutely fine. After all ... all is happening on the list.
It's just that I am signed up to about 50 lists at apache and have to optimize how I process them if I don't want my contribution in the oss world to be just being up to date with all that's happening and not having any time left to contribute.
So I just filter out all emails that require an increased time to read and usually have a limited payload.
This usually relates totally escalating threads (posts coming in faster than I can read them) and generally all Jira emails except the PLC4X ones.
Chris
Am 10.03.20, 03:23 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:
Hi,
The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1].
So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to:
1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list;
2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and change the
email title.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道：
> Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
>
> - Xin
>
> Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道：
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
> >
> > Best,
> > -----------------------------------
> > Xiangdong Huang
> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >
> > 黄向东
> > 清华大学 软件学院
> >
> >
> > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
> > >
> > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented" event
> > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic Event"
> > event
> > > notifications now).
> > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the subject
> of
> > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
> > title"
> > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible according
> to
> > > [2].
> > >
> > > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to INFRA JIRA.
> > >
> > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another
> > solution:
> > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot
> subscribes
> > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to dev@
> > > mailing list with a better title format.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >
> > > 黄向东
> > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > >
> > >
> > > Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午7:54写道：
> > >
> > >> Hi folks,
> > >>
> > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for me in
> my
> > >> inbox:
> > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
> > >>
> > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I can
> get.
> > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
> > >>
> > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am not
> > >> willing
> > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are about.
> > >>
> > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira emails
> > >> drastically ...
> > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of the
> title
> > >> text,
> > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
> > 写道：
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 from me also!
> > >> >
> > >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi，
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> > >> >
> > >> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
> > >> >
> > >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually
> > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> > ---
> > >> > Dawei Liu
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and
> > >> comment.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - Xin
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五
> 上午9:12写道：
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Hi,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR,
> > >> assigning
> > >> >>> issue...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Like this:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>> [
> > >> >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> > >> >>> ]
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> > >> >>> ----------------------------------------
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> > >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> > >> Support date
> > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service.
> > >> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the
> > >> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure
> > at:
> > >> >>> users@infra.apache.org
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> > >> Support date
> > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Thanks,
> > >> >>> --
> > >> >>> Jialin Qiao
> > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> 乔嘉林
> > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> > >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> > >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> > >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> > >> >>>> 抄送:
> > >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Hi all,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated
> by
> > >> jira
> > >> >>> (hard
> > >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while
> > >> commuting)".
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be
> > >> forwarded
> > >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed
> > >> sometimes
> > >> >>> we
> > >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of
> > >> ISSUE to
> > >> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> [1]
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Best,
> > >> >>>> -----------------------------------
> > >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> > >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> 黄向东
> > >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Xin
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Xin
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1].
So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to:
1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list;
2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and change the
email title.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道：
> Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
>
> - Xin
>
> Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道：
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
> >
> > Best,
> > -----------------------------------
> > Xiangdong Huang
> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >
> > 黄向东
> > 清华大学 软件学院
> >
> >
> > Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
> > >
> > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented" event
> > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic Event"
> > event
> > > notifications now).
> > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the subject
> of
> > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
> > title"
> > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible according
> to
> > > [2].
> > >
> > > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to INFRA JIRA.
> > >
> > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another
> > solution:
> > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot
> subscribes
> > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to dev@
> > > mailing list with a better title format.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >
> > > 黄向东
> > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > >
> > >
> > > Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午7:54写道：
> > >
> > >> Hi folks,
> > >>
> > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for me in
> my
> > >> inbox:
> > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
> > >>
> > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I can
> get.
> > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
> > >>
> > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am not
> > >> willing
> > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are about.
> > >>
> > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira emails
> > >> drastically ...
> > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of the
> title
> > >> text,
> > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
> > 写道：
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 from me also!
> > >> >
> > >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi，
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> > >> >
> > >> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
> > >> >
> > >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually
> > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> > ---
> > >> > Dawei Liu
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and
> > >> comment.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - Xin
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五
> 上午9:12写道：
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Hi,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR,
> > >> assigning
> > >> >>> issue...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Like this:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>> [
> > >> >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> > >> >>> ]
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> > >> >>> ----------------------------------------
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> > >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> > >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> > >> Support date
> > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service.
> > >> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the
> > >> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure
> > at:
> > >> >>> users@infra.apache.org
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> > >> Support date
> > >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> > >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Thanks,
> > >> >>> --
> > >> >>> Jialin Qiao
> > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> 乔嘉林
> > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> > >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> > >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> > >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> > >> >>>> 抄送:
> > >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Hi all,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated
> by
> > >> jira
> > >> >>> (hard
> > >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while
> > >> commuting)".
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be
> > >> forwarded
> > >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed
> > >> sometimes
> > >> >>> we
> > >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of
> > >> ISSUE to
> > >> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> [1]
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Best,
> > >> >>>> -----------------------------------
> > >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> > >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> 黄向东
> > >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Xin
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Xin
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com>.
Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
- Xin
Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道：
> Hi all,
>
> I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
>
> Best,
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
> >
> > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented" event
> > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic Event"
> event
> > notifications now).
> > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the subject of
> > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
> title"
> > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible according to
> > [2].
> >
> > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to INFRA JIRA.
> >
> > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another
> solution:
> > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot subscribes
> > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to dev@
> > mailing list with a better title format.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> > [2]
> >
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
> >
> > Best,
> > -----------------------------------
> > Xiangdong Huang
> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >
> > 黄向东
> > 清华大学 软件学院
> >
> >
> > Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午7:54写道：
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for me in my
> >> inbox:
> >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
> >>
> >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I can get.
> >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
> >>
> >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am not
> >> willing
> >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are about.
> >>
> >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira emails
> >> drastically ...
> >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of the title
> >> text,
> >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
> 写道：
> >> >
> >> > +1 from me also!
> >> >
> >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
> >> >
> >> > Hi，
> >> >
> >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> >> >
> >> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually
> >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > ---
> >> > Dawei Liu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
> >> >>
> >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and
> >> comment.
> >> >>
> >> >> - Xin
> >> >>
> >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR,
> >> assigning
> >> >>> issue...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Like this:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >> >>> [
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> >> >>> ]
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> >> >>> ----------------------------------------
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> >> Support date
> >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service.
> >> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the
> >> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure
> at:
> >> >>> users@infra.apache.org
> >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> >> Support date
> >> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> >> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Jialin Qiao
> >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 乔嘉林
> >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> >> >>>> 抄送:
> >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi all,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by
> >> jira
> >> >>> (hard
> >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while
> >> commuting)".
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be
> >> forwarded
> >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed
> >> sometimes
> >> >>> we
> >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of
> >> ISSUE to
> >> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> [1]
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Best,
> >> >>>> -----------------------------------
> >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 黄向东
> >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Xin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
--
Thanks,
Xin
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道：
> Hi all,
>
> I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
>
> 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented" event
> notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic Event" event
> notifications now).
> 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the subject of
> the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER) title"
> to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible according to
> [2].
>
> Both two changes require INFRA's help.
> If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to INFRA JIRA.
>
> If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another solution:
> a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot subscribes
> the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to dev@
> mailing list with a better title format.
>
> [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
> [2]
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
>
> Best,
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午7:54写道：
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for me in my
>> inbox:
>> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
>>
>> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I can get.
>> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
>>
>> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am not
>> willing
>> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are about.
>>
>> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira emails
>> drastically ...
>> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of the title
>> text,
>> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de> 写道：
>> >
>> > +1 from me also!
>> >
>> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
>> >
>> > Hi，
>> >
>> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
>> >
>> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
>> >
>> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually
>> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > ---
>> > Dawei Liu
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
>> >>
>> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and
>> comment.
>> >>
>> >> - Xin
>> >>
>> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>> >>>
>> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR,
>> assigning
>> >>> issue...
>> >>>
>> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
>> >>>
>> >>> Like this:
>> >>>
>> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> >>> [
>> >>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
>> >>> ]
>> >>>
>> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
>> >>> ----------------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
>> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
>> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
>> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
>> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
>> Support date
>> >>> format "2020-02-10"
>> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>> >>>
>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service.
>> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the
>> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
>> >>>
>> >>> For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at:
>> >>> users@infra.apache.org
>> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> >>>
>> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
>> >>>
>> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
>> Support date
>> >>> format "2020-02-10"
>> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> --
>> >>> Jialin Qiao
>> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>> >>>
>> >>> 乔嘉林
>> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
>> >>>
>> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
>> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
>> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
>> >>>> 抄送:
>> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by
>> jira
>> >>> (hard
>> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while
>> commuting)".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be
>> forwarded
>> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed
>> sometimes
>> >>> we
>> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of
>> ISSUE to
>> >>>> reduce the notifications?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>> -----------------------------------
>> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
>> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 黄向东
>> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Xin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented" event
notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic Event" event
notifications now).
2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the subject of
the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER) title"
to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible according to
[2].
Both two changes require INFRA's help.
If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to INFRA JIRA.
If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another solution:
a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot subscribes
the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to dev@
mailing list with a better title format.
[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
[2]
https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
黄向东
清华大学 软件学院
Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午7:54写道：
> Hi folks,
>
> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for me in my
> inbox:
> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
>
> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I can get.
> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
>
> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am not willing
> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are about.
>
> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira emails
> drastically ...
> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of the title
> text,
> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
>
> +1
>
> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de> 写道：
> >
> > +1 from me also!
> >
> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
> >
> > Hi，
> >
> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
> >
> > I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
> >
> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually
> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > ---
> > Dawei Liu
> >
> >
> >
> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
> >>
> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and
> comment.
> >>
> >> - Xin
> >>
> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
> >>>
> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR,
> assigning
> >>> issue...
> >>>
> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
> >>>
> >>> Like this:
> >>>
> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >>> [
> >>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> >>> ]
> >>>
> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> >>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> >>> 耗费时间: 10分
> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> Support date
> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service.
> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the
> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
> >>>
> >>> For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at:
> >>> users@infra.apache.org
> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >>>
> >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
> >>>
> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
> Support date
> >>> format "2020-02-10"
> >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --
> >>> Jialin Qiao
> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >>>
> >>> 乔嘉林
> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> >>>
> >>>> -----原始邮件-----
> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> >>>> 抄送:
> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by
> jira
> >>> (hard
> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while
> commuting)".
> >>>>
> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be
> forwarded
> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed
> sometimes
> >>> we
> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
> >>>>
> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of
> ISSUE to
> >>>> reduce the notifications?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> -----------------------------------
> >>>> Xiangdong Huang
> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >>>>
> >>>> 黄向东
> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >> Xin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi folks,
here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for me in my inbox:
https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I can get.
So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am not willing
to klick on every email in order to find out what they are about.
It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira emails drastically ...
perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of the title text,
then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
Chris
Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <la...@hotmail.com>:
+1
> 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de> 写道：
>
> +1 from me also!
>
> Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
>
> Hi，
>
> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
>
> I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
>
> Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
>
>
> Thanks
> ---
> Dawei Liu
>
>
>
>> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
>>
>> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>>
>> - Xin
>>
>> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>>>
>>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR, assigning
>>> issue...
>>>
>>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
>>>
>>> Like this:
>>>
>>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>> [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
>>> ]
>>>
>>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
>>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
>>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
>>> 耗费时间: 10分
>>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498] Support date
>>> format "2020-02-10"
>>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service.
>>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the
>>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
>>>
>>> For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at:
>>> users@infra.apache.org
>>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>
>>> The only useful information is only two lines:
>>>
>>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498] Support date
>>> format "2020-02-10"
>>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Jialin Qiao
>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>>
>>> 乔嘉林
>>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>>
>>>> -----原始邮件-----
>>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
>>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
>>>> 抄送:
>>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by jira
>>> (hard
>>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while commuting)".
>>>>
>>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be forwarded
>>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed sometimes
>>> we
>>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
>>>>
>>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of ISSUE to
>>>> reduce the notifications?
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> Xiangdong Huang
>>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>>>
>>>> 黄向东
>>>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Xin
>
>
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by 伍 雄 <la...@hotmail.com>.
+1
> 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de> 写道：
>
> +1 from me also!
>
> Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
>
> Hi，
>
> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
>
> I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
>
> Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
>
>
> Thanks
> ---
> Dawei Liu
>
>
>
>> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
>>
>> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>>
>> - Xin
>>
>> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>>>
>>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR, assigning
>>> issue...
>>>
>>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
>>>
>>> Like this:
>>>
>>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>> [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
>>> ]
>>>
>>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
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>>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
>>> 耗费时间: 10分
>>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498] Support date
>>> format "2020-02-10"
>>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
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>>> format "2020-02-10"
>>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
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>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Jialin Qiao
>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>>
>>> 乔嘉林
>>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>>
>>>> -----原始邮件-----
>>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
>>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
>>>> 抄送:
>>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by jira
>>> (hard
>>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while commuting)".
>>>>
>>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be forwarded
>>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed sometimes
>>> we
>>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
>>>>
>>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of ISSUE to
>>>> reduce the notifications?
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> Xiangdong Huang
>>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>>>
>>>> 黄向东
>>>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Xin
>
>
>
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
+1 from me also!
Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <at...@163.com>:
Hi，
+1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
Thanks
---
Dawei Liu
> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
>
> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>
> - Xin
>
> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>>
>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR, assigning
>> issue...
>>
>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
>>
>> Like this:
>>
>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> [
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
>> ]
>>
>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
>> ----------------------------------------
>>
>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
>> 耗费时间: 10分
>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498] Support date
>> format "2020-02-10"
>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>>
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>> format "2020-02-10"
>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Jialin Qiao
>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>
>> 乔嘉林
>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>
>>> -----原始邮件-----
>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
>>> 抄送:
>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by jira
>> (hard
>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while commuting)".
>>>
>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be forwarded
>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed sometimes
>> we
>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
>>>
>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of ISSUE to
>>> reduce the notifications?
>>>
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Xiangdong Huang
>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>>
>>> 黄向东
>>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Xin
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Dawei Liu <at...@163.com>.
Hi，
+1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
Thanks
---
Dawei Liu
> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> 写道：
>
> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>
> - Xin
>
> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>>
>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR, assigning
>> issue...
>>
>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
>>
>> Like this:
>>
>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> [
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
>> ]
>>
>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
>> ----------------------------------------
>>
>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
>> 耗费时间: 10分
>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498] Support date
>> format "2020-02-10"
>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>>
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>> The only useful information is only two lines:
>>
>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498] Support date
>> format "2020-02-10"
>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Jialin Qiao
>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>
>> 乔嘉林
>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>
>>> -----原始邮件-----
>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
>>> 抄送:
>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by jira
>> (hard
>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while commuting)".
>>>
>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be forwarded
>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed sometimes
>> we
>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
>>>
>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of ISSUE to
>>> reduce the notifications?
>>>
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Xiangdong Huang
>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>>
>>> 黄向东
>>> 清华大学 软件学院
>>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Xin
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com>.
It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
- Xin
Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> 于2020年3月6日周五 上午9:12写道：
> Hi,
>
> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
>
> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR, assigning
> issue...
>
> Could we simplify the issue report format?
>
> Like this:
>
> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
> [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
> ]
>
> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
> ----------------------------------------
>
> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
> 耗费时间: 10分
> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498] Support date
> format "2020-02-10"
> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
>
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> format "2020-02-10"
> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Jialin Qiao
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 乔嘉林
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
> > -----原始邮件-----
> > 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> > 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> > 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> > 抄送:
> > 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by jira
> (hard
> > to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while commuting)".
> >
> > How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be forwarded
> > directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed sometimes
> we
> > have too many JIRA notifications.
> >
> > Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of ISSUE to
> > reduce the notifications?
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> >
> > Best,
> > -----------------------------------
> > Xiangdong Huang
> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> >
> > 黄向东
> > 清华大学 软件学院
>
--
Thanks,
Xin
Re: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
Posted by Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>.
Hi,
+1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking PR, assigning issue...
Could we simplify the issue report format?
Like this:
@++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173 ]
ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
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@++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thanks,
--
Jialin Qiao
School of Software, Tsinghua University
乔嘉林
清华大学 软件学院
> -----原始邮件-----
> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>
> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org
> 抄送:
> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
>
> Hi all,
>
> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated by jira (hard
> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while commuting)".
>
> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be forwarded
> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But indeed sometimes we
> have too many JIRA notifications.
>
> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" of ISSUE to
> reduce the notifications?
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
>
> Best,
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院