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Posted to dev@hbase.apache.org by Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> on 2016/05/03 05:57:52 UTC

Re: Hangout on Slack?

I'm not such a huge slack fan, but I'm also becoming curmudgeonly. Sure,
why not? If that's where people want to gather. You creating a room? How to
make it "official"?

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Committers should hang out in the #hbase room on irc.freenode.net for
> > real-time discussions."
> > -- HBase Book
> >
> > The room has a bunch of people, but none who I recognize. I wonder what
> > happened. How a room which I imagine must have had thriving geeky
> > discussions once, just died.
> >
> > Anyways, let's revive the old tradition because it will certainly be
> useful
> > to hang out in a room for real-time discussions. We can use the new
> kickass
> > service for that, Slack.
> >
> > What says the community?
> >
> >
> Or we could just revive the existing channel?
> St.Ack
>
>
>
> > -- Appy
> >
>

Re: Hangout on Slack?

Posted by Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com>.
That's the way i see it too.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Mikhail Antonov <ol...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The way I see it IRC / Slack are for quick ad-hoc questions, mostly
> between the devs, not a replacement but an addition to mail lists.
>
> On 5/3/16, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sean could probably confirm, but I believe Apache policy requires that
> > discussions/decisions happen on the dev list. So, IRC/Slack is probably
> > fine for user requests, but project direction happens in mailing list.
> Then
> > there's the question of searchable archives. Are IRC/Slack channels
> > archived so users 3 months later can find the answer that someone else
> > posted? Again, Apache has policies that dictate this as well.
> >
> > I'm not saying don't do it. I'm asking what your objective is.
> >
> > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> So slack has these cool features: code snippet support, file transfers,
> >> personal history (see what you missed), plugins support (for jenkins,
> >> etc).
> >> But we advertise in hbase book that we have an irc channel (
> >> http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#trouble.resources.irc,
> >> http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#irc).
> >> Which should we choose going forward?
> >>
> >> The main goal is to hangout in a room so that it's easy to ping people
> >> for
> >> short discussions/clarifications.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm not such a huge slack fan, but I'm also becoming curmudgeonly.
> >> > Sure,
> >> > why not? If that's where people want to gather. You creating a room?
> >> > How
> >> to
> >> > make it "official"?
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Apekshit Sharma <appy@cloudera.com
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > "Committers should hang out in the #hbase room on
> irc.freenode.net
> >> for
> >> > > > real-time discussions."
> >> > > > -- HBase Book
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The room has a bunch of people, but none who I recognize. I wonder
> >> what
> >> > > > happened. How a room which I imagine must have had thriving geeky
> >> > > > discussions once, just died.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Anyways, let's revive the old tradition because it will certainly
> >> > > > be
> >> > > useful
> >> > > > to hang out in a room for real-time discussions. We can use the
> new
> >> > > kickass
> >> > > > service for that, Slack.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What says the community?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > Or we could just revive the existing channel?
> >> > > St.Ack
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > -- Appy
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Apekshit Sharma | Software Engineer, Cloudera | Palo Alto, California |
> >> 650-963-6311
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Michael Antonov
>



-- 

Regards

Apekshit Sharma | Software Engineer, Cloudera | Palo Alto, California |
650-963-6311

Re: Hangout on Slack?

Posted by Mikhail Antonov <ol...@gmail.com>.
The way I see it IRC / Slack are for quick ad-hoc questions, mostly
between the devs, not a replacement but an addition to mail lists.

On 5/3/16, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sean could probably confirm, but I believe Apache policy requires that
> discussions/decisions happen on the dev list. So, IRC/Slack is probably
> fine for user requests, but project direction happens in mailing list. Then
> there's the question of searchable archives. Are IRC/Slack channels
> archived so users 3 months later can find the answer that someone else
> posted? Again, Apache has policies that dictate this as well.
>
> I'm not saying don't do it. I'm asking what your objective is.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> So slack has these cool features: code snippet support, file transfers,
>> personal history (see what you missed), plugins support (for jenkins,
>> etc).
>> But we advertise in hbase book that we have an irc channel (
>> http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#trouble.resources.irc,
>> http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#irc).
>> Which should we choose going forward?
>>
>> The main goal is to hangout in a room so that it's easy to ping people
>> for
>> short discussions/clarifications.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not such a huge slack fan, but I'm also becoming curmudgeonly.
>> > Sure,
>> > why not? If that's where people want to gather. You creating a room?
>> > How
>> to
>> > make it "official"?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > "Committers should hang out in the #hbase room on irc.freenode.net
>> for
>> > > > real-time discussions."
>> > > > -- HBase Book
>> > > >
>> > > > The room has a bunch of people, but none who I recognize. I wonder
>> what
>> > > > happened. How a room which I imagine must have had thriving geeky
>> > > > discussions once, just died.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyways, let's revive the old tradition because it will certainly
>> > > > be
>> > > useful
>> > > > to hang out in a room for real-time discussions. We can use the new
>> > > kickass
>> > > > service for that, Slack.
>> > > >
>> > > > What says the community?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Or we could just revive the existing channel?
>> > > St.Ack
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > -- Appy
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Apekshit Sharma | Software Engineer, Cloudera | Palo Alto, California |
>> 650-963-6311
>>
>


-- 
Thanks,
Michael Antonov

Re: Hangout on Slack?

Posted by Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com>.
Sean could probably confirm, but I believe Apache policy requires that
discussions/decisions happen on the dev list. So, IRC/Slack is probably
fine for user requests, but project direction happens in mailing list. Then
there's the question of searchable archives. Are IRC/Slack channels
archived so users 3 months later can find the answer that someone else
posted? Again, Apache has policies that dictate this as well.

I'm not saying don't do it. I'm asking what your objective is.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com> wrote:

> So slack has these cool features: code snippet support, file transfers,
> personal history (see what you missed), plugins support (for jenkins, etc).
> But we advertise in hbase book that we have an irc channel (
> http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#trouble.resources.irc,
> http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#irc).
> Which should we choose going forward?
>
> The main goal is to hangout in a room so that it's easy to ping people for
> short discussions/clarifications.
>
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not such a huge slack fan, but I'm also becoming curmudgeonly. Sure,
> > why not? If that's where people want to gather. You creating a room? How
> to
> > make it "official"?
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Committers should hang out in the #hbase room on irc.freenode.net
> for
> > > > real-time discussions."
> > > > -- HBase Book
> > > >
> > > > The room has a bunch of people, but none who I recognize. I wonder
> what
> > > > happened. How a room which I imagine must have had thriving geeky
> > > > discussions once, just died.
> > > >
> > > > Anyways, let's revive the old tradition because it will certainly be
> > > useful
> > > > to hang out in a room for real-time discussions. We can use the new
> > > kickass
> > > > service for that, Slack.
> > > >
> > > > What says the community?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Or we could just revive the existing channel?
> > > St.Ack
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -- Appy
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> Apekshit Sharma | Software Engineer, Cloudera | Palo Alto, California |
> 650-963-6311
>

Re: Hangout on Slack?

Posted by Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com>.
So slack has these cool features: code snippet support, file transfers,
personal history (see what you missed), plugins support (for jenkins, etc).
But we advertise in hbase book that we have an irc channel (
http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#trouble.resources.irc,
http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#irc).
Which should we choose going forward?

The main goal is to hangout in a room so that it's easy to ping people for
short discussions/clarifications.


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not such a huge slack fan, but I'm also becoming curmudgeonly. Sure,
> why not? If that's where people want to gather. You creating a room? How to
> make it "official"?
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Apekshit Sharma <ap...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "Committers should hang out in the #hbase room on irc.freenode.net for
> > > real-time discussions."
> > > -- HBase Book
> > >
> > > The room has a bunch of people, but none who I recognize. I wonder what
> > > happened. How a room which I imagine must have had thriving geeky
> > > discussions once, just died.
> > >
> > > Anyways, let's revive the old tradition because it will certainly be
> > useful
> > > to hang out in a room for real-time discussions. We can use the new
> > kickass
> > > service for that, Slack.
> > >
> > > What says the community?
> > >
> > >
> > Or we could just revive the existing channel?
> > St.Ack
> >
> >
> >
> > > -- Appy
> > >
> >
>



-- 

Regards

Apekshit Sharma | Software Engineer, Cloudera | Palo Alto, California |
650-963-6311