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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by xzuma <za...@gmail.com> on 2006/01/13 00:59:52 UTC
[OT] JSF-Shale-Facelets orthogonality
Hello,
I am reading discussions about the above three frameworks with one goal in
mind, to find out whether JSF, Shale and Facelets are trully orthogonal.
That is, if I go along any path, will be able to add any other framework
lateron? How hard it is? What features of the frameworks are interlapping?
Thanks.
Z
Re: [OT] JSF-Shale-Facelets orthogonality
Posted by xzuma <za...@gmail.com>.
On 1/13/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/12/06, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > Since no one else has answered, I'll give this a try:
> >
> > JSF is the base for everything you asked about. Only AFTER you are
> > comfortable with JSF implementation (the Sun JSF RI
> > or the MyFaces runtime) would I recommend you try Facelets, Shale or
> both.
> >
> > Facelets and Shale bring extra functionality on top of a JSF
> > implementation that each project's authors felt were
> > missing from JSF v1.1. Facelets brings a view definition tool,
> templating
> > and tile-like functionality to JSF. Shale
> > brings many pieces to JSF such as Dialogs/Workflows, Tokens, Variable
> > resolvers, extra functions to the view controller
> > a test framework, etc. One optional component of Shale is called Clay
> > which is functionally very similar to Facelets.
> > However, I have heard of people using Shale with Facelets instead of
> Clay
> > and who have almost everything working
> > normally.
> >
> > For more information, check out:
> >
> > Sun JSF RI: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/
> > MyFaces JSF RI: http://myfaces.apache.org
> > Shale: http://struts.apache.org/shale
> > Facelets: https://facelets.dev.java.net/
> >
> > *** Tutorials and other learning resources:
> > http://www.jsftutorials.net/
> > http://www.jsfcentral.com/
> >
> > Regards,
> > David
>
>
> "What David said" -- he's got it right.
>
> Craig McClanahan
>
> Thanks, Craig and David. I wonder, if it woud be possible (of course, it
is desirable) to calculate the orthogonality of the frameworks from first
principles.
Z.
Re: [OT] JSF-Shale-Facelets orthogonality
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 1/12/06, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> Since no one else has answered, I'll give this a try:
>
> JSF is the base for everything you asked about. Only AFTER you are
> comfortable with JSF implementation (the Sun JSF RI
> or the MyFaces runtime) would I recommend you try Facelets, Shale or both.
>
> Facelets and Shale bring extra functionality on top of a JSF
> implementation that each project's authors felt were
> missing from JSF v1.1. Facelets brings a view definition tool, templating
> and tile-like functionality to JSF. Shale
> brings many pieces to JSF such as Dialogs/Workflows, Tokens, Variable
> resolvers, extra functions to the view controller
> a test framework, etc. One optional component of Shale is called Clay
> which is functionally very similar to Facelets.
> However, I have heard of people using Shale with Facelets instead of Clay
> and who have almost everything working
> normally.
>
> For more information, check out:
>
> Sun JSF RI: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/
> MyFaces JSF RI: http://myfaces.apache.org
> Shale: http://struts.apache.org/shale
> Facelets: https://facelets.dev.java.net/
>
> *** Tutorials and other learning resources:
> http://www.jsftutorials.net/
> http://www.jsfcentral.com/
>
> Regards,
> David
"What David said" -- he's got it right.
Craig McClanahan
RE: [OT] JSF-Shale-Facelets orthogonality
Posted by "David G. Friedman" <hu...@ix.netcom.com>.
Since no one else has answered, I'll give this a try:
JSF is the base for everything you asked about. Only AFTER you are comfortable with JSF implementation (the Sun JSF RI
or the MyFaces runtime) would I recommend you try Facelets, Shale or both.
Facelets and Shale bring extra functionality on top of a JSF implementation that each project's authors felt were
missing from JSF v1.1. Facelets brings a view definition tool, templating and tile-like functionality to JSF. Shale
brings many pieces to JSF such as Dialogs/Workflows, Tokens, Variable resolvers, extra functions to the view controller
a test framework, etc. One optional component of Shale is called Clay which is functionally very similar to Facelets.
However, I have heard of people using Shale with Facelets instead of Clay and who have almost everything working
normally.
For more information, check out:
Sun JSF RI: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/
MyFaces JSF RI: http://myfaces.apache.org
Shale: http://struts.apache.org/shale
Facelets: https://facelets.dev.java.net/
*** Tutorials and other learning resources:
http://www.jsftutorials.net/
http://www.jsfcentral.com/
Regards,
David
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From: xzuma [mailto:zaboba@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:00 PM
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Subject: [OT] JSF-Shale-Facelets orthogonality
Hello,
I am reading discussions about the above three frameworks with one goal in
mind, to find out whether JSF, Shale and Facelets are trully orthogonal.
That is, if I go along any path, will be able to add any other framework
lateron? How hard it is? What features of the frameworks are interlapping?
Thanks.
Z
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