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Posted to dev@brpc.apache.org by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> on 2023/02/15 12:31:17 UTC
Friendly suggestion to make the dev-list readable again
Hi,
while reviewing your projects activity as part of my board duties, I came to notice, that the dev-list is in an almost unusable state.
The vast majority of all emails are auto-generated emails from GitHub.
The way the replication is setup per default makes these emails impossible to follow and display in any email client I tried to read it on. After a lot of persuasion Infra introduced a new feature into the .asf.yml to allow custom templates for these auto-generated emails.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-CustomsubjectlinesforGitHubevents
In the PLC4X Project we used these settings to drastically reformat the subject lines of all GitHub emails.
https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/.asf.yaml#L62
With this we can now read the start of the title in typical columnar layouted email clients as well on phones and the clients are able to do correct threading.
Perhaps worth discussing to adopt these or similar changes.
The way the list is currently, I doubt anyone is reading it and it makes it impossible for outsiders to get started … well … and it makes it hard for the board to execute it’s oversight.
As I said in the subject … it’s not an order to change anything, but a friendly suggestion.
Chris
Re: Friendly suggestion to make the dev-list readable again
Posted by Xiaofeng <wa...@gmail.com>.
The notification mails are kept into thread.
So read is OK.
Xiaofeng <wa...@gmail.com> 于 2023年2月17日周五 00:45写道：
> Hi,
>
> Even we support to setup GitHub mails title as REply, it does not work at
> all.
>
> The apache mail list does not work well with the GitHub notifications.
>
> We cannot reply to GitHub issues through mail list, and the GitHub
> notification mails are broken into threads, which make it hard to use and
> read.
>
> As a user, I just setup a filter to move all GitHub notifications to the
> apache mail list to trash, and watch the project GitHub notifications.
>
> I'm not sure who will track GitHub issues/merge requests through mail list.
>
> Weibing Wang <ww...@apache.org> 于 2023年2月16日周四 10:42写道：
>
>> Hi, Chris
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestion. I have updated the .afs.yaml of brpc
>> project, and we will see the change in later mails.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Weibing
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 8:31 PM Christofer Dutz
>> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > while reviewing your projects activity as part of my board duties, I
>> came to notice, that the dev-list is in an almost unusable state.
>> >
>> > The vast majority of all emails are auto-generated emails from GitHub.
>> >
>> > The way the replication is setup per default makes these emails
>> impossible to follow and display in any email client I tried to read it on.
>> After a lot of persuasion Infra introduced a new feature into the .asf.yml
>> to allow custom templates for these auto-generated emails.
>> >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-CustomsubjectlinesforGitHubevents
>> >
>> > In the PLC4X Project we used these settings to drastically reformat the
>> subject lines of all GitHub emails.
>> >
>> > https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/.asf.yaml#L62
>> >
>> > With this we can now read the start of the title in typical columnar
>> layouted email clients as well on phones and the clients are able to do
>> correct threading.
>> >
>> > Perhaps worth discussing to adopt these or similar changes.
>> >
>> > The way the list is currently, I doubt anyone is reading it and it
>> makes it impossible for outsiders to get started … well … and it makes it
>> hard for the board to execute it’s oversight.
>> >
>> > As I said in the subject … it’s not an order to change anything, but a
>> friendly suggestion.
>> >
>> > Chris
>>
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Re: Friendly suggestion to make the dev-list readable again
Posted by Xiaofeng <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Even we support to setup GitHub mails title as REply, it does not work at
all.
The apache mail list does not work well with the GitHub notifications.
We cannot reply to GitHub issues through mail list, and the GitHub
notification mails are broken into threads, which make it hard to use and
read.
As a user, I just setup a filter to move all GitHub notifications to the
apache mail list to trash, and watch the project GitHub notifications.
I'm not sure who will track GitHub issues/merge requests through mail list.
Weibing Wang <ww...@apache.org> 于 2023年2月16日周四 10:42写道：
> Hi, Chris
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. I have updated the .afs.yaml of brpc
> project, and we will see the change in later mails.
>
> Best regards
> Weibing
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 8:31 PM Christofer Dutz
> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > while reviewing your projects activity as part of my board duties, I
> came to notice, that the dev-list is in an almost unusable state.
> >
> > The vast majority of all emails are auto-generated emails from GitHub.
> >
> > The way the replication is setup per default makes these emails
> impossible to follow and display in any email client I tried to read it on.
> After a lot of persuasion Infra introduced a new feature into the .asf.yml
> to allow custom templates for these auto-generated emails.
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-CustomsubjectlinesforGitHubevents
> >
> > In the PLC4X Project we used these settings to drastically reformat the
> subject lines of all GitHub emails.
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/.asf.yaml#L62
> >
> > With this we can now read the start of the title in typical columnar
> layouted email clients as well on phones and the clients are able to do
> correct threading.
> >
> > Perhaps worth discussing to adopt these or similar changes.
> >
> > The way the list is currently, I doubt anyone is reading it and it makes
> it impossible for outsiders to get started … well … and it makes it hard
> for the board to execute it’s oversight.
> >
> > As I said in the subject … it’s not an order to change anything, but a
> friendly suggestion.
> >
> > Chris
>
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Re: Friendly suggestion to make the dev-list readable again
Posted by Weibing Wang <ww...@apache.org>.
Hi, Chris
Thanks for your suggestion. I have updated the .afs.yaml of brpc
project, and we will see the change in later mails.
Best regards
Weibing
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 8:31 PM Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> while reviewing your projects activity as part of my board duties, I came to notice, that the dev-list is in an almost unusable state.
>
> The vast majority of all emails are auto-generated emails from GitHub.
>
> The way the replication is setup per default makes these emails impossible to follow and display in any email client I tried to read it on. After a lot of persuasion Infra introduced a new feature into the .asf.yml to allow custom templates for these auto-generated emails.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-CustomsubjectlinesforGitHubevents
>
> In the PLC4X Project we used these settings to drastically reformat the subject lines of all GitHub emails.
>
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/.asf.yaml#L62
>
> With this we can now read the start of the title in typical columnar layouted email clients as well on phones and the clients are able to do correct threading.
>
> Perhaps worth discussing to adopt these or similar changes.
>
> The way the list is currently, I doubt anyone is reading it and it makes it impossible for outsiders to get started … well … and it makes it hard for the board to execute it’s oversight.
>
> As I said in the subject … it’s not an order to change anything, but a friendly suggestion.
>
> Chris
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