RE: Upgrading ASF Jira to 4.2.x [rant]

[Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>]

All,

I have only just logged-into the test instance of the new JIRA and, I
have to admit, I wasn't sure how the JIRA team could make the product worse.

First, JIRA was always painfully slow and would never remember a
password I chose -- I had to reset it every time I wanted to use it. I
gave up and started using the auto-generated temp passwords it was
sending to me and never setting a real password. Also, simple things
like commenting and changing bug information was awkward compared to
Bugzilla.

Now, I've only logged-in and seen the front page and already I'm not
liking it: the page was blank except for empty titled-sections (with
empty titles!) and then everything filled-in slowly over a period of
about 10 seconds. Woo hoo! Javascript and "Web 2.0"... just what JIRA
needed: a way to go slower.

:(

-chris

Re: Upgrading ASF Jira to 4.2.x [rant]

[Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>]

Antonio,

On 1/10/2011 11:25 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote:
> 2011/1/10 Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
>> First, JIRA was always painfully slow and would never remember a
>> password I chose -- I had to reset it every time I wanted to use it.
> 
> So you are complaining that Jira would not send you the password that
> you forgot?
> It's for your safety, you know.

No. I'm complaining that no matter how many times I reset my password,
JIRA wouldn't remember it. I wasn't mis-typing it: I use KeePass to
manage the password and do a drag-and-drop password entry for both
changing my password and for authenticating. JIRA just choked all the
time. Maybe it was a password-length restriction (which is kind of
foolish these days) or some other thing where the password I entered
when changing it wasn't the one recorded -- or alternatively that the
password I used for authentication wasn't processed in the same way,
which is essentially the same thing: fail.

>> Also, simple things
>> like commenting and changing bug information was awkward compared to
>> Bugzilla.
> 
> Oh well, I notice that you are a Bugzilla fan, and I am a Bugzilla
> hater, I can say the exact thing swapping the terms of comparison.

Fair enough: I should complain directly to the JIRA folks that having to
scroll to the top of the page to click the "COMMENT" link just to go
back down to the bottom to attach a comment is kind of silly.

>> Now, I've only logged-in and seen the front page and already I'm not
>> liking it: the page was blank except for empty titled-sections (with
>> empty titles!) and then everything filled-in slowly over a period of
>> about 10 seconds. Woo hoo! Javascript and "Web 2.0"... just what JIRA
>> needed: a way to go slower.
> 
> I think the problem might be the browser, i am on a pretty-old Pentium
> D with Chrome it goes pretty fast.

JIRA is painfully slow on any hardware I've used. I don't know if it's
the server's fault, JIRA's fault, or Java's fault. I just know that my
browser accessing Java-based webapps on my productions servers are nice
and snappy and that JIRA has always been slow as a dog.

Since all the Javascript has been added, the page load time is faster
(the blank page loads with nothing but JIRA chrome somewhat quickly) but
then you have to sit twiddling your thumbs for all the content to arrive
after the fact.

-chris

Re: Upgrading ASF Jira to 4.2.x [rant]

[Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com>]

2011/1/10 Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
> First, JIRA was always painfully slow and would never remember a
> password I chose -- I had to reset it every time I wanted to use it.

So you are complaining that Jira would not send you the password that
you forgot?
It's for your safety, you know.

> Also, simple things
> like commenting and changing bug information was awkward compared to
> Bugzilla.

Oh well, I notice that you are a Bugzilla fan, and I am a Bugzilla
hater, I can say the exact thing swapping the terms of comparison.

> Now, I've only logged-in and seen the front page and already I'm not
> liking it: the page was blank except for empty titled-sections (with
> empty titles!) and then everything filled-in slowly over a period of
> about 10 seconds. Woo hoo! Javascript and "Web 2.0"... just what JIRA
> needed: a way to go slower.

I think the problem might be the browser, i am on a pretty-old Pentium
D with Chrome it goes pretty fast.

Antonio

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