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[VFS] Re: dependency on commons-httpclient? (was Re: vfs
question)
Of course, commons-httpclient should be an *optional* dependency. If you
use WebDav, it is not mandatory because WebDav depends on it. But for
basic HTTP stuff, it should still be optional and fall back to using
URL.openConnection(). When commons-httpclient is available, it should give
you some extra functionality, that's all. If you are attempting to grab
something via an HTTP URL and VFS bombs out because it doesn't have
commons-httpclient in the classpath, I think that should be reported as a
bug. Maybe Mario can verify this?
Jake
At 12:05 PM 12/29/2005 +0200, you wrote:
>Yes, you need to include the Commons HttpClient library. Please see the list
>of dependencies here: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/vfs/download.html
>
>Regards,
>Robert
>
>On 12/29/05, ¶¡î£ <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
>>
>>
>> yeah, u'r right!
>>
>> I must include the common httpclient if I want to user vfs?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----ÔʼÓʼþ-----
>> ·¢¼þÈË: Robert Enyedi [mailto:renyedi@gmail.com]
>> ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2005Äê12ÔÂ29ÈÕ 17:38
>> ÊÕ¼þÈË: Jakarta Commons Users List
>> Ö÷Ìâ: Re: vfs question
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Both org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException and import
>> org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil are used by the URLFileName
>> class. And yes, VFS has a dependency on the Commons HttpClient library.
>> Was
>> this your question?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robert
>>
>> On 12/29/05, ?? <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > any body use vfs?
>> >
>> > I meet a question?
>> >
>> > in org.apache.commons.vfs.provider.URLFileName ;
>> >
>> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException;
>> ???????why?
>> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil
>> > ; ???????why?
>> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileName;
>> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileSystemException;
>> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileType;
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > if the class like this.it's depended on Commons Httpclient.
>> >
>> >
>> > Is there any question here?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [VFS] Re: dependency on commons-httpclient? (was Re: vfs
question)
Posted by Jacob Kjome <ho...@visi.com>.
You're right. See...
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37724
Jake
At 11:35 AM 12/29/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I believe the dependency exists due to a need for correct parsing of
>URIs. There was an extended thread, and a great deal of testing and
>changes to the code to make sure that all URI cases are handled
>correctly, and in the end the commons-httpclient library was needed to
>get it right. If I remember correctly this was viewed as the best way to
>get correct behavior right now, even though it does introduce a pretty
>heavy dependency and there is some hope (at least among some on the
>thread) that eventually this dependency can be eliminated.
>
>Not an official answer to anything, since I'm not a committer and have
>yet to be able to contribute much of anything, but hopefully helpful.
>
>Jacob Kjome wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course, commons-httpclient should be an *optional* dependency. If
>> you use WebDav, it is not mandatory because WebDav depends on it. But
>> for basic HTTP stuff, it should still be optional and fall back to
>> using URL.openConnection(). When commons-httpclient is available, it
>> should give you some extra functionality, that's all. If you are
>> attempting to grab something via an HTTP URL and VFS bombs out because
>> it doesn't have commons-httpclient in the classpath, I think that
>> should be reported as a bug. Maybe Mario can verify this?
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> At 12:05 PM 12/29/2005 +0200, you wrote:
>> >Yes, you need to include the Commons HttpClient library. Please see
>> the list
>> >of dependencies here:
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/vfs/download.html
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Robert
>> >
>> >On 12/29/05, ¶¡î£ <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> yeah, u'r right!
>> >>
>> >> I must include the common httpclient if I want to user vfs?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----ÔʼÓʼþ-----
>> >> ·¢¼þÈË: Robert Enyedi [mailto:renyedi@gmail.com]
>> >> ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2005Äê12ÔÂ29ÈÕ 17:38
>> >> ÊÕ¼þÈË: Jakarta Commons Users List
>> >> Ö÷Ìâ: Re: vfs question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Both org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException and import
>> >> org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil are used by the URLFileName
>> >> class. And yes, VFS has a dependency on the Commons HttpClient
>> library.
>> >> Was
>> >> this your question?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Robert
>> >>
>> >> On 12/29/05, ?? <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > any body use vfs?
>> >> >
>> >> > I meet a question?
>> >> >
>> >> > in org.apache.commons.vfs.provider.URLFileName ;
>> >> >
>> >> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException;
>> >> ???????why?
>> >> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil
>> >> > ; ???????why?
>> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileName;
>> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileSystemException;
>> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileType;
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > if the class like this.it's depended on Commons Httpclient.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there any question here?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
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Re: [VFS] Re: dependency on commons-httpclient? (was Re: vfs question)
Posted by Andy Lewis <aj...@ascii27.net>.
I believe the dependency exists due to a need for correct parsing of
URIs. There was an extended thread, and a great deal of testing and
changes to the code to make sure that all URI cases are handled
correctly, and in the end the commons-httpclient library was needed to
get it right. If I remember correctly this was viewed as the best way to
get correct behavior right now, even though it does introduce a pretty
heavy dependency and there is some hope (at least among some on the
thread) that eventually this dependency can be eliminated.
Not an official answer to anything, since I'm not a committer and have
yet to be able to contribute much of anything, but hopefully helpful.
Jacob Kjome wrote:
>
> Of course, commons-httpclient should be an *optional* dependency. If
> you use WebDav, it is not mandatory because WebDav depends on it. But
> for basic HTTP stuff, it should still be optional and fall back to
> using URL.openConnection(). When commons-httpclient is available, it
> should give you some extra functionality, that's all. If you are
> attempting to grab something via an HTTP URL and VFS bombs out because
> it doesn't have commons-httpclient in the classpath, I think that
> should be reported as a bug. Maybe Mario can verify this?
>
> Jake
>
> At 12:05 PM 12/29/2005 +0200, you wrote:
> >Yes, you need to include the Commons HttpClient library. Please see
> the list
> >of dependencies here:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/vfs/download.html
> >
> >Regards,
> >Robert
> >
> >On 12/29/05, ¶¡î£ <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> yeah, u'r right!
> >>
> >> I must include the common httpclient if I want to user vfs?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----ÔʼÓʼþ-----
> >> ·¢¼þÈË: Robert Enyedi [mailto:renyedi@gmail.com]
> >> ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2005Äê12ÔÂ29ÈÕ 17:38
> >> ÊÕ¼þÈË: Jakarta Commons Users List
> >> Ö÷Ìâ: Re: vfs question
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Both org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException and import
> >> org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil are used by the URLFileName
> >> class. And yes, VFS has a dependency on the Commons HttpClient
> library.
> >> Was
> >> this your question?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> On 12/29/05, ?? <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > any body use vfs?
> >> >
> >> > I meet a question?
> >> >
> >> > in org.apache.commons.vfs.provider.URLFileName ;
> >> >
> >> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException;
> >> ???????why?
> >> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil
> >> > ; ???????why?
> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileName;
> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileSystemException;
> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileType;
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > if the class like this.it's depended on Commons Httpclient.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is there any question here?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [VFS] Re: dependency on commons-httpclient? (was Re: vfs
question)
Posted by Jacob Kjome <ho...@visi.com>.
"If you use WebDav, it is not mandatory because WebDav depends on it."
should have been...
"If you use WebDav, it is mandatory because WebDav depends on it."
Just a change in my train of thought from saying "not optional" to
"mandatory" and forgetting to drop the "not". Whoops!
Jake
At 10:26 AM 12/29/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Of course, commons-httpclient should be an *optional* dependency. If you
>use WebDav, it is not mandatory because WebDav depends on it. But for
>basic HTTP stuff, it should still be optional and fall back to using
>URL.openConnection(). When commons-httpclient is available, it should give
>you some extra functionality, that's all. If you are attempting to grab
>something via an HTTP URL and VFS bombs out because it doesn't have
>commons-httpclient in the classpath, I think that should be reported as a
>bug. Maybe Mario can verify this?
>
>Jake
>
>At 12:05 PM 12/29/2005 +0200, you wrote:
> >Yes, you need to include the Commons HttpClient library. Please see the
list
> >of dependencies here: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/vfs/download.html
> >
> >Regards,
> >Robert
> >
> >On 12/29/05, ¶¡î£ <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> yeah, u'r right!
> >>
> >> I must include the common httpclient if I want to user vfs?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----ÔʼÓʼþ-----
> >> ·¢¼þÈË: Robert Enyedi [mailto:renyedi@gmail.com]
> >> ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2005Äê12ÔÂ29ÈÕ 17:38
> >> ÊÕ¼þÈË: Jakarta Commons Users List
> >> Ö÷Ìâ: Re: vfs question
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Both org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException and import
> >> org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil are used by the URLFileName
> >> class. And yes, VFS has a dependency on the Commons HttpClient library.
> >> Was
> >> this your question?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> On 12/29/05, ?? <di...@paic.com.cn> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > any body use vfs?
> >> >
> >> > I meet a question?
> >> >
> >> > in org.apache.commons.vfs.provider.URLFileName ;
> >> >
> >> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.URIException;
> >> ???????why?
> >> > import org.apache.commons.httpclient.util.URIUtil
> >> > ; ???????why?
> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileName;
> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileSystemException;
> >> > import org.apache.commons.vfs.FileType;
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > if the class like this.it's depended on Commons Httpclient.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is there any question here?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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