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ServerFaces and Tapestry
any comments to Java Server Faces versus Tapestry?
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Re: ServerFaces and Tapestry
Posted by ea...@gmx.de.
Hm...the thing I dont like about Tapestry is the fact that it is all built
upon this idea.
I dont think I will ever employ any webdesigners as I think I can do that
myself. I am also not going to change the layout once it is finished. If I know
the layout of a window is okay, I never want to touch this class again. If I
want to use a different looking window i would then just replace the class
or a database entry that points to another class. This way I could also in
theory sell my webapplication and sell different layouts in jar files -
therefore all html would be within a class not within an editable template. When it
comes to marketing a new technology these things also need to be considered.
Even if I had lots of money to pay for a webdesigner, I think it is a lot of
more work to split a complete html page layout into hundreds of modules,
e.g. navigation bar, all kinds of windows, etc...than it is to quickly do the
layout of a new module yourself.
If JSF is not in productional use yet, this is a viable argument though!
> I was using that before trying Tapestry and it looks like it WILL be
> good, but right now it's just not there yet. I ran into many things
> that it just could not do yet and Tapestry seems to do it all. I also
> absolutely love the fact that designers can design interfaces in
> tapestry without having an app server running to view it, that is
> probably the single best thing about Tapestry and you can't do that with
> JSF since it uses taglibs. Tapestry has more components available. JSF
> is easier to setup and learn. The JSF license says you cannot use JSF
> in production yet, only for review and development. That's all i can
> think of for now.
>
> Travis
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Re: ServerFaces and Tapestry
Posted by Travis Reeder <tr...@ecommstats.com>.
I was using that before trying Tapestry and it looks like it WILL be
good, but right now it's just not there yet. I ran into many things
that it just could not do yet and Tapestry seems to do it all. I also
absolutely love the fact that designers can design interfaces in
tapestry without having an app server running to view it, that is
probably the single best thing about Tapestry and you can't do that with
JSF since it uses taglibs. Tapestry has more components available. JSF
is easier to setup and learn. The JSF license says you cannot use JSF
in production yet, only for review and development. That's all i can
think of for now.
Travis
easy-to-remember@gmx.de wrote:
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Re: ServerFaces and Tapestry
Posted by Erik Hatcher <er...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
On Mar 4, 2004, at 4:35 PM, easy-to-remember@gmx.de wrote:
> any comments to Java Server Faces versus Tapestry?
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> http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.2/tutorial/doc/index.html
Sure, I commented it on earlier today:
http://weblogs.java.net/pub/wlg/1088
(see comments section)
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Re: ServerFaces and Tapestry
Posted by Mindbridge <mi...@yahoo.com>.
There have been several messages about that in the past. You can search the
archives for JSF for a complete list. My personal opinion is described here:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/1684
Here is a message by Howard as well:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/225
Despite a few claims to the contrary, I have not seen major improvements
between the version I had reviewed back then and the recent release. I
believe what is stated remains valid.
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