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Droids Podling Issue
All,
I'm very concerned with the droids podling.
First, their website no longer works: http://incubator.apache.org/droids/
Second, Their ML archives indicate no activity for a year. There has been
consistently 1 email on the list per month. Its generally about the board
report, and a couple about newly created tickets:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-dev/
Third, their commits mailing list indicates no commits sine April 2013
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-commits/
This sounds like a podling in bad shape, which is weird because the last
batch of activity was around a name search and graduating. Does anyone
know whats going on here?
John
Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Ah, I am sorry I think I may have missed that VOTE thread =(
Thanks for the update, Marvin.
- Henry
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't see any response.
>> Shall IPMC start voting to move it to retirement?
>
> The voting has concluded. After this discussion thread, we ran a
> community vote; Thorsten voted there, and the vote passed. Then we
> ran an IPMC vote, which passed. All that's left is to perform the
> administrative tasks.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, that would help. I somehow found the DISCUSS thread but missed
the VOTE thread to retire the podlings.
- Henry
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:28 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll move them forward to retired in podlings.xml and start looking at
> jenkins if that helps (for both podlings)
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:21 PM Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I don't see any response.
>> > Shall IPMC start voting to move it to retirement?
>>
>> The voting has concluded. After this discussion thread, we ran a
>> community vote; Thorsten voted there, and the vote passed. Then we
>> ran an IPMC vote, which passed. All that's left is to perform the
>> administrative tasks.
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:28 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'll move them forward to retired in podlings.xml and start looking at
> > jenkins if that helps (for both podlings)
>
> John, I really appreciate the offer to help, but I have ambitions to
> clean up the retirement guide and would like to do all the steps
> myself if I can. I'll start tonight.
>
Sure no problem. Reach out if you need any help.
We should probably at least list them as retired in this month's report?
>
> Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:28 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll move them forward to retired in podlings.xml and start looking at
> jenkins if that helps (for both podlings)
John, I really appreciate the offer to help, but I have ambitions to
clean up the retirement guide and would like to do all the steps
myself if I can. I'll start tonight.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
I'll move them forward to retired in podlings.xml and start looking at
jenkins if that helps (for both podlings)
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:21 PM Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I don't see any response.
> > Shall IPMC start voting to move it to retirement?
>
> The voting has concluded. After this discussion thread, we ran a
> community vote; Thorsten voted there, and the vote passed. Then we
> ran an IPMC vote, which passed. All that's left is to perform the
> administrative tasks.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't see any response.
> Shall IPMC start voting to move it to retirement?
The voting has concluded. After this discussion thread, we ran a
community vote; Thorsten voted there, and the vote passed. Then we
ran an IPMC vote, which passed. All that's left is to perform the
administrative tasks.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
I don't see any response.
Shall IPMC start voting to move it to retirement?
- Henry
On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
wrote:
> Thorsten, any commentary?
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Richard Frovarp <rfrovarp@apache.org
> <javascript:;>>
>
> > Thanks Marvin. I'm probably at that point. I'd be happy to work on it,
> and
> > help out the community. However, I don't have the energy to push and
> build a
> > community, which is what is needed. I was waiting to see if Thorsten had
> > something to say. I know he was out of the office when the last report
> was
> > due.
>
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
Thorsten, any commentary?
Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
> Thanks Marvin. I'm probably at that point. I'd be happy to work on it, and
> help out the community. However, I don't have the energy to push and build a
> community, which is what is needed. I was waiting to see if Thorsten had
> something to say. I know he was out of the office when the last report was
> due.
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
Thorsten, any commentary?
Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
> Thanks Marvin. I'm probably at that point. I'd be happy to work on it, and
> help out the community. However, I don't have the energy to push and build a
> community, which is what is needed. I was waiting to see if Thorsten had
> something to say. I know he was out of the office when the last report was
> due.
Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
On 08/09/2015 08:16 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>> FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
>> to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
>> seeing.
> The Incubator is basically holding Droids open out of deference to
> Thorsten and Richard, both of whom are Apache Members and IPMC
> members.
>
> Droids has not been active for a long time, and would require
> considerable work building a community before it could graduate as a
> TLP. Some small podlings have graduated in the past (no fewer than 5
> PMC members) and it has worked out OK. Having two people as
> experienced as Richard and Thorsten on Board in a group of 5 would
> make it a decent bet, were the podling active. But almost nothing has
> been going on with Droids for years.
>
> The matter will probably resolve once Richard tires of making
> quarterly reports and challenging calls to retire the podling whenever
> a report is late.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
Thanks Marvin. I'm probably at that point. I'd be happy to work on it,
and help out the community. However, I don't have the energy to push and
build a community, which is what is needed. I was waiting to see if
Thorsten had something to say. I know he was out of the office when the
last report was due.
Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
On 08/09/2015 08:16 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>> FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
>> to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
>> seeing.
> The Incubator is basically holding Droids open out of deference to
> Thorsten and Richard, both of whom are Apache Members and IPMC
> members.
>
> Droids has not been active for a long time, and would require
> considerable work building a community before it could graduate as a
> TLP. Some small podlings have graduated in the past (no fewer than 5
> PMC members) and it has worked out OK. Having two people as
> experienced as Richard and Thorsten on Board in a group of 5 would
> make it a decent bet, were the podling active. But almost nothing has
> been going on with Droids for years.
>
> The matter will probably resolve once Richard tires of making
> quarterly reports and challenging calls to retire the podling whenever
> a report is late.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
Thanks Marvin. I'm probably at that point. I'd be happy to work on it,
and help out the community. However, I don't have the energy to push and
build a community, which is what is needed. I was waiting to see if
Thorsten had something to say. I know he was out of the office when the
last report was due.
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
> to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
> seeing.
The Incubator is basically holding Droids open out of deference to
Thorsten and Richard, both of whom are Apache Members and IPMC
members.
Droids has not been active for a long time, and would require
considerable work building a community before it could graduate as a
TLP. Some small podlings have graduated in the past (no fewer than 5
PMC members) and it has worked out OK. Having two people as
experienced as Richard and Thorsten on Board in a group of 5 would
make it a decent bet, were the podling active. But almost nothing has
been going on with Droids for years.
The matter will probably resolve once Richard tires of making
quarterly reports and challenging calls to retire the podling whenever
a report is late.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
> to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
> seeing.
The Incubator is basically holding Droids open out of deference to
Thorsten and Richard, both of whom are Apache Members and IPMC
members.
Droids has not been active for a long time, and would require
considerable work building a community before it could graduate as a
TLP. Some small podlings have graduated in the past (no fewer than 5
PMC members) and it has worked out OK. Having two people as
experienced as Richard and Thorsten on Board in a group of 5 would
make it a decent bet, were the podling active. But almost nothing has
been going on with Droids for years.
The matter will probably resolve once Richard tires of making
quarterly reports and challenging calls to retire the podling whenever
a report is late.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
seeing.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:45 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm very concerned with the droids podling.
>
> First, their website no longer works: http://incubator.apache.org/droids/
>
> Second, Their ML archives indicate no activity for a year. There has been
> consistently 1 email on the list per month. Its generally about the board
> report, and a couple about newly created tickets:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-dev/
>
> Third, their commits mailing list indicates no commits sine April 2013
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-commits/
>
> This sounds like a podling in bad shape, which is weird because the last
> batch of activity was around a name search and graduating. Does anyone
> know whats going on here?
>
> John
Re: Droids Podling Issue
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
seeing.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:45 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm very concerned with the droids podling.
>
> First, their website no longer works: http://incubator.apache.org/droids/
>
> Second, Their ML archives indicate no activity for a year. There has been
> consistently 1 email on the list per month. Its generally about the board
> report, and a couple about newly created tickets:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-dev/
>
> Third, their commits mailing list indicates no commits sine April 2013
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-commits/
>
> This sounds like a podling in bad shape, which is weird because the last
> batch of activity was around a name search and graduating. Does anyone
> know whats going on here?
>
> John
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