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Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to me. While
still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The question
is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users, with no
xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model, template
etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more tidy
way.
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Re: [C3] Logging properties [SOLVED]
Posted by Hugh Sparks <hu...@csparks.com>.
Sorry!
I discovered that in fact, both methods work equally well.
My understanding of log tailing in Windows was defective.
-Hugh Sparks
----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Sparks
To: users cocoon.apache.org
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: [C3] Logging properties
I'm having trouble changing the logback logging level.
I want to temporarily switch the level to INFO.
The logback.xml file contains this construct:
...
<root>
<level value="${org.apache.cocoon.logback.loglevel:-WARN}"/>
<appender-ref ref="CORE"/>
</root>
I guess this sets the level to "WARN" unless the placeholder is defined with some other value. So I'd like to alter the value of the placeholder. First, I tried a properties file. On the source side, I put it here:
src/main/resources/META-INF/cocoon/properties/cocoon-logback.properties
Containing the expression:
org.apache.cocoon.logback.loglevel=INFO
This had no effect.
I'm a little fuzzy on how cocoon properties files should be named and positioned. (Pehaps someone will reply with a quick overview?)
Next, I put the setting in applicationContext.xml:
<configurator:settings>
<configurator:property
name="org.apache.cocoon.logback.loglevel"
value="INFO"
/>
</configurator:settings>
But I still don't see INFO messages after the initial (unavoidable?) jetty startup outburst.
Something else is turning off the INFO setting or my attempts are misguided.
Thanks to all who reply.
-Hugh Sparks
[C3] Logging properties
Posted by Hugh Sparks <hu...@csparks.com>.
I'm having trouble changing the logback logging level.
I want to temporarily switch the level to INFO.
The logback.xml file contains this construct:
...
<root>
<level value="${org.apache.cocoon.logback.loglevel:-WARN}"/>
<appender-ref ref="CORE"/>
</root>
I guess this sets the level to "WARN" unless the placeholder is defined with some other value. So I'd like to alter the value of the placeholder. First, I tried a properties file. On the source side, I put it here:
src/main/resources/META-INF/cocoon/properties/cocoon-logback.properties
Containing the expression:
org.apache.cocoon.logback.loglevel=INFO
This had no effect.
I'm a little fuzzy on how cocoon properties files should be named and positioned. (Pehaps someone will reply with a quick overview?)
Next, I put the setting in applicationContext.xml:
<configurator:settings>
<configurator:property
name="org.apache.cocoon.logback.loglevel"
value="INFO"
/>
</configurator:settings>
But I still don't see INFO messages after the initial (unavoidable?) jetty startup outburst.
Something else is turning off the INFO setting or my attempts are misguided.
Thanks to all who reply.
-Hugh Sparks
Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Andre Juffer <an...@oulu.fi>.
On 11/29/2011 11:15 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
> On 29/11/2011 10:09, Andre Juffer wrote:
>>
>
> Well, I think I rather know that code ;-) - you should be able to find
> my name in [2] as well.
Oops...
In that case, you only would need to learn Dojo 1.6 (almost 1.7) and
they have good documentation material available.
> Anyway, I am looking forward to see something about this topic.
>
> Regards.
>
> [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/pom.xml
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Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 29/11/2011 10:09, Andre Juffer wrote:
> On 11/29/2011 11:02 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
>> On 28/11/2011 20:12, Andre Juffer wrote:
>>> On 11/28/2011 05:51 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A combination you may want to have a look at is using Dojo toolkit (
>>>>> http://dojotoolkit.org/ ) on the client and cocoon's REST
>>>>> implementation on the server. From a performance point of view
>>>>> this is
>>>>> very efficient. Dojo does not require any knowledge of XML. It favors
>>>>> JSON (www.joson.org) instead.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, this looks veeeeery interesting: do you have any running (simple)
>>>> example about this? Are you planning to write something about this?
>>>
>>> I am working on several applications, but they are not yet public.
>>> But it is all fairly simple. I would start with reading on cocoon to
>>> understand how to receive and handle REST-like requests. The cocoon
>>> 3 website is very clear (at least to me). These requests can be
>>> generated with dojo [1].
>>
>> Hem, I was wondering if you plan to write something about your work
>> (a blog, wiki page, ...) mainly to have a common reference - or
>> better, a working example - for people wanting to approach Cocoon 3.
>
> Ah OK, yeah, sure, at some point I could do this. In the mean time,
> you should have a look at the sample application [1] that C3 provides.
>
> [1] http://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/download.html
Well, I think I rather know that code ;-) - you should be able to find
my name in [2] as well.
Anyway, I am looking forward to see something about this topic.
Regards.
[2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/pom.xml
>>
>>> [1] http://dojotoolkit.org/documentation/tutorials/1.6/ajax/
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
>>>>>> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to
>>>>>>> me. While
>>>>>>> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The
>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users,
>>>>>>> with no
>>>>>>> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model,
>>>>>>> template
>>>>>>> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more
>>>>>>> tidy
>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
>>>>>> there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
>>>>>> progressed enough to be considered usable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>>>> Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon
>>>>>> fields, I'd
>>>>>> rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
>>>>>> alpha status, it's quite mature.
>>>>>> Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would
>>>>>> deal
>>>>>> with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for
>>>>>> which a
>>>>>> cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
>>>>>> processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
>>>>>> integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
>>>>>> [2] http://wicket.apache.org/
>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
>>>>>>
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Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Andre Juffer <an...@oulu.fi>.
On 11/29/2011 11:02 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
> On 28/11/2011 20:12, Andre Juffer wrote:
>> On 11/28/2011 05:51 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A combination you may want to have a look at is using Dojo toolkit (
>>>> http://dojotoolkit.org/ ) on the client and cocoon's REST
>>>> implementation on the server. From a performance point of view this is
>>>> very efficient. Dojo does not require any knowledge of XML. It favors
>>>> JSON (www.joson.org) instead.
>>>
>>> Hey, this looks veeeeery interesting: do you have any running (simple)
>>> example about this? Are you planning to write something about this?
>>
>> I am working on several applications, but they are not yet public.
>> But it is all fairly simple. I would start with reading on cocoon to
>> understand how to receive and handle REST-like requests. The cocoon 3
>> website is very clear (at least to me). These requests can be
>> generated with dojo [1].
>
> Hem, I was wondering if you plan to write something about your work (a
> blog, wiki page, ...) mainly to have a common reference - or better, a
> working example - for people wanting to approach Cocoon 3.
Ah OK, yeah, sure, at some point I could do this. In the mean time, you
should have a look at the sample application [1] that C3 provides.
[1] http://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/download.html
>
> Regards.
>
>> [1] http://dojotoolkit.org/documentation/tutorials/1.6/ajax/
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
>>>>> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
>>>>>> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to
>>>>>> me. While
>>>>>> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The
>>>>>> question
>>>>>> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
>>>>>> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users,
>>>>>> with no
>>>>>> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model,
>>>>>> template
>>>>>> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more
>>>>>> tidy
>>>>>> way.
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
>>>>> there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
>>>>> progressed enough to be considered usable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>>> Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon fields,
>>>>> I'd
>>>>> rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
>>>>> alpha status, it's quite mature.
>>>>> Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would deal
>>>>> with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for
>>>>> which a
>>>>> cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
>>>>> processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
>>>>> integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
>>>>> [2] http://wicket.apache.org/
>>>>> [3]
>>>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [4]
>>>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
>>>>>
>>
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Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 28/11/2011 20:12, Andre Juffer wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 05:51 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
>>>
>>> A combination you may want to have a look at is using Dojo toolkit (
>>> http://dojotoolkit.org/ ) on the client and cocoon's REST
>>> implementation on the server. From a performance point of view this is
>>> very efficient. Dojo does not require any knowledge of XML. It favors
>>> JSON (www.joson.org) instead.
>>
>> Hey, this looks veeeeery interesting: do you have any running (simple)
>> example about this? Are you planning to write something about this?
>
> I am working on several applications, but they are not yet public. But
> it is all fairly simple. I would start with reading on cocoon to
> understand how to receive and handle REST-like requests. The cocoon 3
> website is very clear (at least to me). These requests can be
> generated with dojo [1].
Hem, I was wondering if you plan to write something about your work (a
blog, wiki page, ...) mainly to have a common reference - or better, a
working example - for people wanting to approach Cocoon 3.
Regards.
> [1] http://dojotoolkit.org/documentation/tutorials/1.6/ajax/
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
>>>> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
>>>>
>>>> On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
>>>>> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to
>>>>> me. While
>>>>> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The
>>>>> question
>>>>> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
>>>>> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users,
>>>>> with no
>>>>> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model,
>>>>> template
>>>>> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more
>>>>> tidy
>>>>> way.
>>>> Hi,
>>>> unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
>>>> there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
>>>> progressed enough to be considered usable.
>>>>
>>>> Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>> Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon fields, I'd
>>>> rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
>>>> alpha status, it's quite mature.
>>>> Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would deal
>>>> with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for
>>>> which a
>>>> cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
>>>> processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
>>>> integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
>>>> [2] http://wicket.apache.org/
>>>> [3]
>>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [4]
>>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
>
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Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Andre Juffer <aj...@cc.oulu.fi>.
On 11/28/2011 05:51 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
>>
>> A combination you may want to have a look at is using Dojo toolkit (
>> http://dojotoolkit.org/ ) on the client and cocoon's REST
>> implementation on the server. From a performance point of view this is
>> very efficient. Dojo does not require any knowledge of XML. It favors
>> JSON (www.joson.org) instead.
>
> Hey, this looks veeeeery interesting: do you have any running (simple)
> example about this? Are you planning to write something about this?
I am working on several applications, but they are not yet public. But
it is all fairly simple. I would start with reading on cocoon to
understand how to receive and handle REST-like requests. The cocoon 3
website is very clear (at least to me). These requests can be generated
with dojo [1].
[1] http://dojotoolkit.org/documentation/tutorials/1.6/ajax/
>
> Thanks.
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
>>> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
>>>
>>> On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
>>>> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to
>>>> me. While
>>>> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The
>>>> question
>>>> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
>>>> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users,
>>>> with no
>>>> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model,
>>>> template
>>>> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more
>>>> tidy
>>>> way.
>>> Hi,
>>> unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
>>> there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
>>> progressed enough to be considered usable.
>>>
>>> Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
>>> Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon fields, I'd
>>> rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
>>> alpha status, it's quite mature.
>>> Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would deal
>>> with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for which a
>>> cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
>>> processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
>>>
>>> If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
>>> integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> [1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
>>> [2] http://wicket.apache.org/
>>> [3]
>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
>>>
>>> [4]
>>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
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Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 28/11/2011 10:53, Andre Juffer wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 10:29 AM, Robby Pelssers wrote:
>> I agree. Although flowscript's continuations can be useful they do
>> tend to claim lots of resources and as a cocoon beginner it might
>> make more sense to jump onto the C3 wagon from the start. I think it
>> offers a easier learning path although from (advanced --> writing
>> custom components) documentation point of view there is still some
>> progress to be made. Cocoon's proposition is not so much about
>> building advanced forms rather than being a state-of-the-art
>> framework for XML processing. And with C3 you can easily integrate C3
>> into any Java framework you already are familiar with.
>
> A combination you may want to have a look at is using Dojo toolkit (
> http://dojotoolkit.org/ ) on the client and cocoon's REST
> implementation on the server. From a performance point of view this is
> very efficient. Dojo does not require any knowledge of XML. It favors
> JSON (www.joson.org) instead.
Hey, this looks veeeeery interesting: do you have any running (simple)
example about this? Are you planning to write something about this?
Thanks.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
>> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
>>
>> On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
>>> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to
>>> me. While
>>> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The
>>> question
>>> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
>>> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users,
>>> with no
>>> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model,
>>> template
>>> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more
>>> tidy
>>> way.
>> Hi,
>> unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
>> there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
>> progressed enough to be considered usable.
>>
>> Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
>> Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon fields, I'd
>> rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
>> alpha status, it's quite mature.
>> Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would deal
>> with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for which a
>> cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
>> processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
>>
>> If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
>> integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> [1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
>> [2] http://wicket.apache.org/
>> [3]
>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
>>
>> [4]
>> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
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Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Andre Juffer <an...@oulu.fi>.
On 11/28/2011 10:29 AM, Robby Pelssers wrote:
> I agree. Although flowscript's continuations can be useful they do tend to claim lots of resources and as a cocoon beginner it might make more sense to jump onto the C3 wagon from the start. I think it offers a easier learning path although from (advanced --> writing custom components) documentation point of view there is still some progress to be made. Cocoon's proposition is not so much about building advanced forms rather than being a state-of-the-art framework for XML processing. And with C3 you can easily integrate C3 into any Java framework you already are familiar with.
A combination you may want to have a look at is using Dojo toolkit (
http://dojotoolkit.org/ ) on the client and cocoon's REST implementation
on the server. From a performance point of view this is very efficient.
Dojo does not require any knowledge of XML. It favors JSON
(www.joson.org) instead.
>
> Robby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
>
> On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
>> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to me. While
>> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The question
>> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
>> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users, with no
>> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model, template
>> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more tidy
>> way.
> Hi,
> unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
> there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
> progressed enough to be considered usable.
>
> Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
> Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon fields, I'd
> rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
> alpha status, it's quite mature.
> Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would deal
> with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for which a
> cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
> processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
>
> If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
> integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
>
> Regards.
>
> [1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
> [2] http://wicket.apache.org/
> [3]
> http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
> [4] http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
>
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RE: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Robby Pelssers <Ro...@nxp.com>.
I agree. Although flowscript's continuations can be useful they do tend to claim lots of resources and as a cocoon beginner it might make more sense to jump onto the C3 wagon from the start. I think it offers a easier learning path although from (advanced --> writing custom components) documentation point of view there is still some progress to be made. Cocoon's proposition is not so much about building advanced forms rather than being a state-of-the-art framework for XML processing. And with C3 you can easily integrate C3 into any Java framework you already are familiar with.
Robby
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From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:13 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to me. While
> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The question
> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users, with no
> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model, template
> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more tidy
> way.
Hi,
unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
progressed enough to be considered usable.
Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon fields, I'd
rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
alpha status, it's quite mature.
Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would deal
with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for which a
cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
Regards.
[1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
[2] http://wicket.apache.org/
[3]
http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
[4] http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
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Apache Cocoon Committer and PMC Member
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Re: Cocoon Forms [absolute beginner]
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 27/11/2011 02:57, nowbert3 wrote:
> Hi! As mentioned in the subject, Cocoon project is something new to me. While
> still exploring, I must admit I'm beginning to really like it. The question
> is simple and perhaps a little stupid, but here goes - are there any
> developed tools/editors (possibly wysiwyg) that allow simple users, with no
> xml (java) knowledge create/generate a form (actually form model, template
> etc.) directly from the web - working as some kind of cms in a more tidy
> way.
Hi,
unfortunately there is nothing about what you say above. I know that
there has been something in that direction in the past, but nothing
progressed enough to be considered usable.
Which version are you running? 2.1 or 2.2?
Anyway, if you are stepping for the first time into Cocoon fields, I'd
rather suggest you to start looking at version 3.0 [1]; despite its
alpha status, it's quite mature.
Cocoon 3.0 pushes a "minimal" approach: so for example you would deal
with proper web frameworks (like as Wicket [2], for example, for which a
cocoon-wicket integration module is available), leaving the XML
processing stuff to Cocoon pipelines.
If you are interested, there are some samples about Cocoon-Wicket
integration [3] and Cocoon-Hippo CMS integration [4].
Regards.
[1] https://cocoon.apache.org/3.0/
[2] http://wicket.apache.org/
[3]
http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/build-rich-xml-enabled-applications
[4] http://blog.tirasa.net/blogs/index.php/ilgrosso/cocoon-3-and-hippo-cms
--
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Apache Cocoon Committer and PMC Member
http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
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