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Posted to user@spark.apache.org by Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> on 2020/04/25 13:42:29 UTC
Copyright Infringment
At the risk of being removed from the emailing I would like a clarification
because I do not want to commit an unlawful act.
Can you please clarify if I would be infringing copyright due to this text.
*Book: High Performance Spark *
*authors: holden Karau Rachel Warren.*
*page xii:*
* This book is here to help you get your job done ... If for example code
is offered with this book, you may use it in your programs and
documentation. You do not need to contact us for permission unless your are
reproducing significant portion of the code. *
Re: Copyright Infringment
Posted by Russell Spitzer <ru...@gmail.com>.
I do not see any conflict. I'm not sure what the exact worry of
infringement is based on? The Apache license does not restrict anyone from
writing a book about a project.
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The text is very clear on the issue of copyright infringement. Ask
> permission or you are committing an unlawful act.
>
> The words "significant portion" has not been quantified.
>
> So I have nothing to ask of the authors except may be to quantify.
> Quantification is a secondary issue.
>
> My reading of the text is that it applies to any spark user and not just
> me personally.
>
> The authors need to make clear to all spark users whether copyright
> infringement was their intent or not.
>
> The authors need to make clear to all spark users why should any
> development team share their Use Case in order avoid falling on the
> wrong side
> of copyright infringement claims.
>
> I understand you are also a named author of a book on Apache usage.
>
> Perhaps you can share with us from your expertise the need or your
> motivation for the addendum to the Apache Spark online usage documents.
>
> Let me rephrase my question.
>
> Does any Spark User feel as I do this text is a violation of Apache
> foundation's free licence agreement ?
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, 16:18 Sean Owen, <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You'll want to ask the authors directly ; the book is not produced by the
>> project itself, so can't answer here.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:42 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of being removed from the emailing I would like a
>>> clarification because I do not want to commit an unlawful act.
>>> Can you please clarify if I would be infringing copyright due to this
>>> text.
>>> *Book: High Performance Spark *
>>> *authors: holden Karau Rachel Warren.*
>>> *page xii:*
>>>
>>> * This book is here to help you get your job done ... If for example
>>> code is offered with this book, you may use it in your programs and
>>> documentation. You do not need to contact us for permission unless your are
>>> reproducing significant portion of the code. *
>>>
>>
Re: Copyright Infringment
Posted by Holden Karau <ho...@pigscanfly.ca>.
Glad it makes sense now :)
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 11:25 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The statement in the book makes sense now. It is based on the premise as
> detailed in paragraph 1).
>
> *unless your are reproducing significant portion of the code. *
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, 17:11 Holden Karau, <ho...@pigscanfly.ca> wrote:
>
>> I’m one of the authors.
>>
>> I think you’ve misunderstood the licenses here, but I am not a lawyer.
>> This is not legal advice but my understanding is:
>>
>> 1) Spark is Apache licensed so code your make using Spark doesn’t need to
>> be open source (it’s not GPL)
>>
>> 2) If you want to use examples from the book and you aren’t using a
>> substantial portion of the code from the book go for it. If you are using a
>> substantial portion of the code please talk to O’Reilly (the publisher) for
>> permission.
>> If you look at the book’s example repo you can find information about the
>> license the individual examples are available under, most are Apache
>> licensed but some components examples are GPL licensed.
>>
>> I hope this helps and your able to use the examples in the book to get
>> your job done and thanks for reading the book.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:48 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The text is very clear on the issue of copyright infringement. Ask
>>> permission or you are committing an unlawful act.
>>>
>>> The words "significant portion" has not been quantified.
>>>
>>> So I have nothing to ask of the authors except may be to quantify.
>>> Quantification is a secondary issue.
>>>
>>> My reading of the text is that it applies to any spark user and not just
>>> me personally.
>>>
>>> The authors need to make clear to all spark users whether copyright
>>> infringement was their intent or not.
>>>
>>> The authors need to make clear to all spark users why should any
>>> development team share their Use Case in order avoid falling on the
>>> wrong side
>>> of copyright infringement claims.
>>>
>>> I understand you are also a named author of a book on Apache usage.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you can share with us from your expertise the need or your
>>> motivation for the addendum to the Apache Spark online usage documents.
>>>
>>> Let me rephrase my question.
>>>
>>> Does any Spark User feel as I do this text is a violation of Apache
>>> foundation's free licence agreement ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, 16:18 Sean Owen, <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You'll want to ask the authors directly ; the book is not produced by
>>>> the project itself, so can't answer here.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:42 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At the risk of being removed from the emailing I would like a
>>>>> clarification because I do not want to commit an unlawful act.
>>>>> Can you please clarify if I would be infringing copyright due to this
>>>>> text.
>>>>> *Book: High Performance Spark *
>>>>> *authors: holden Karau Rachel Warren.*
>>>>> *page xii:*
>>>>>
>>>>> * This book is here to help you get your job done ... If for example
>>>>> code is offered with this book, you may use it in your programs and
>>>>> documentation. You do not need to contact us for permission unless your are
>>>>> reproducing significant portion of the code. *
>>>>>
>>>> --
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau
>> Books (Learning Spark, High Performance Spark, etc.):
>> https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9 <https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9>
>> YouTube Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/user/holdenkarau
>>
> --
Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau
Books (Learning Spark, High Performance Spark, etc.):
https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9 <https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9>
YouTube Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/user/holdenkarau
Re: Copyright Infringment
Posted by Som Lima <so...@gmail.com>.
The statement in the book makes sense now. It is based on the premise as
detailed in paragraph 1).
*unless your are reproducing significant portion of the code. *
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, 17:11 Holden Karau, <ho...@pigscanfly.ca> wrote:
> I’m one of the authors.
>
> I think you’ve misunderstood the licenses here, but I am not a lawyer.
> This is not legal advice but my understanding is:
>
> 1) Spark is Apache licensed so code your make using Spark doesn’t need to
> be open source (it’s not GPL)
>
> 2) If you want to use examples from the book and you aren’t using a
> substantial portion of the code from the book go for it. If you are using a
> substantial portion of the code please talk to O’Reilly (the publisher) for
> permission.
> If you look at the book’s example repo you can find information about the
> license the individual examples are available under, most are Apache
> licensed but some components examples are GPL licensed.
>
> I hope this helps and your able to use the examples in the book to get
> your job done and thanks for reading the book.
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:48 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The text is very clear on the issue of copyright infringement. Ask
>> permission or you are committing an unlawful act.
>>
>> The words "significant portion" has not been quantified.
>>
>> So I have nothing to ask of the authors except may be to quantify.
>> Quantification is a secondary issue.
>>
>> My reading of the text is that it applies to any spark user and not just
>> me personally.
>>
>> The authors need to make clear to all spark users whether copyright
>> infringement was their intent or not.
>>
>> The authors need to make clear to all spark users why should any
>> development team share their Use Case in order avoid falling on the
>> wrong side
>> of copyright infringement claims.
>>
>> I understand you are also a named author of a book on Apache usage.
>>
>> Perhaps you can share with us from your expertise the need or your
>> motivation for the addendum to the Apache Spark online usage documents.
>>
>> Let me rephrase my question.
>>
>> Does any Spark User feel as I do this text is a violation of Apache
>> foundation's free licence agreement ?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, 16:18 Sean Owen, <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You'll want to ask the authors directly ; the book is not produced by
>>> the project itself, so can't answer here.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:42 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At the risk of being removed from the emailing I would like a
>>>> clarification because I do not want to commit an unlawful act.
>>>> Can you please clarify if I would be infringing copyright due to this
>>>> text.
>>>> *Book: High Performance Spark *
>>>> *authors: holden Karau Rachel Warren.*
>>>> *page xii:*
>>>>
>>>> * This book is here to help you get your job done ... If for example
>>>> code is offered with this book, you may use it in your programs and
>>>> documentation. You do not need to contact us for permission unless your are
>>>> reproducing significant portion of the code. *
>>>>
>>> --
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau
> Books (Learning Spark, High Performance Spark, etc.):
> https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9 <https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9>
> YouTube Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/user/holdenkarau
>
Re: Copyright Infringment
Posted by Holden Karau <ho...@pigscanfly.ca>.
I’m one of the authors.
I think you’ve misunderstood the licenses here, but I am not a lawyer. This
is not legal advice but my understanding is:
1) Spark is Apache licensed so code your make using Spark doesn’t need to
be open source (it’s not GPL)
2) If you want to use examples from the book and you aren’t using a
substantial portion of the code from the book go for it. If you are using a
substantial portion of the code please talk to O’Reilly (the publisher) for
permission.
If you look at the book’s example repo you can find information about the
license the individual examples are available under, most are Apache
licensed but some components examples are GPL licensed.
I hope this helps and your able to use the examples in the book to get your
job done and thanks for reading the book.
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:48 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The text is very clear on the issue of copyright infringement. Ask
> permission or you are committing an unlawful act.
>
> The words "significant portion" has not been quantified.
>
> So I have nothing to ask of the authors except may be to quantify.
> Quantification is a secondary issue.
>
> My reading of the text is that it applies to any spark user and not just
> me personally.
>
> The authors need to make clear to all spark users whether copyright
> infringement was their intent or not.
>
> The authors need to make clear to all spark users why should any
> development team share their Use Case in order avoid falling on the
> wrong side
> of copyright infringement claims.
>
> I understand you are also a named author of a book on Apache usage.
>
> Perhaps you can share with us from your expertise the need or your
> motivation for the addendum to the Apache Spark online usage documents.
>
> Let me rephrase my question.
>
> Does any Spark User feel as I do this text is a violation of Apache
> foundation's free licence agreement ?
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, 16:18 Sean Owen, <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You'll want to ask the authors directly ; the book is not produced by the
>> project itself, so can't answer here.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:42 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of being removed from the emailing I would like a
>>> clarification because I do not want to commit an unlawful act.
>>> Can you please clarify if I would be infringing copyright due to this
>>> text.
>>> *Book: High Performance Spark *
>>> *authors: holden Karau Rachel Warren.*
>>> *page xii:*
>>>
>>> * This book is here to help you get your job done ... If for example
>>> code is offered with this book, you may use it in your programs and
>>> documentation. You do not need to contact us for permission unless your are
>>> reproducing significant portion of the code. *
>>>
>> --
Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau
Books (Learning Spark, High Performance Spark, etc.):
https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9 <https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9>
YouTube Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/user/holdenkarau
Re: Copyright Infringment
Posted by Som Lima <so...@gmail.com>.
The text is very clear on the issue of copyright infringement. Ask
permission or you are committing an unlawful act.
The words "significant portion" has not been quantified.
So I have nothing to ask of the authors except may be to quantify.
Quantification is a secondary issue.
My reading of the text is that it applies to any spark user and not just me
personally.
The authors need to make clear to all spark users whether copyright
infringement was their intent or not.
The authors need to make clear to all spark users why should any
development team share their Use Case in order avoid falling on the
wrong side
of copyright infringement claims.
I understand you are also a named author of a book on Apache usage.
Perhaps you can share with us from your expertise the need or your
motivation for the addendum to the Apache Spark online usage documents.
Let me rephrase my question.
Does any Spark User feel as I do this text is a violation of Apache
foundation's free licence agreement ?
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, 16:18 Sean Owen, <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You'll want to ask the authors directly ; the book is not produced by the
> project itself, so can't answer here.
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:42 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> At the risk of being removed from the emailing I would like a
>> clarification because I do not want to commit an unlawful act.
>> Can you please clarify if I would be infringing copyright due to this
>> text.
>> *Book: High Performance Spark *
>> *authors: holden Karau Rachel Warren.*
>> *page xii:*
>>
>> * This book is here to help you get your job done ... If for example code
>> is offered with this book, you may use it in your programs and
>> documentation. You do not need to contact us for permission unless your are
>> reproducing significant portion of the code. *
>>
>
Re: Copyright Infringment
Posted by Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com>.
You'll want to ask the authors directly ; the book is not produced by the
project itself, so can't answer here.
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:42 AM Som Lima <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At the risk of being removed from the emailing I would like a
> clarification because I do not want to commit an unlawful act.
> Can you please clarify if I would be infringing copyright due to this text.
> *Book: High Performance Spark *
> *authors: holden Karau Rachel Warren.*
> *page xii:*
>
> * This book is here to help you get your job done ... If for example code
> is offered with this book, you may use it in your programs and
> documentation. You do not need to contact us for permission unless your are
> reproducing significant portion of the code. *
>