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Posted to dev@oltu.apache.org by Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com> on 2012/03/02 14:48:38 UTC
Re: Questions for projects
Hi Maciej,
sorry to bother you again on it.
But do you have any update ?
I thinks is really time to seriously think about a release and it would be nice to hear that also this topic is moving forward.
Thanks
Antonio
On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Maciej Machulak wrote:
> Yes, that's the correct story. AFAIK there's some progress with the
> grant at the Uni. I've been told it might be issued shortly :-) I'll
> keep bugging them until the grant is issued, no worries ;)
>
> Maciej
>
> On 31 January 2012 15:10, Pid <pi...@pidster.com> wrote:
>> On 31/01/2012 22:52, Raymond Feng wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Can somebody familiar with the project history summarize the code grant issue? It will help us new folks get the context of the discussion.
>>
>> Short version, (correct me if I'm wrong someone):
>>
>> An OAuth 2.0 project, LeeLoo, was being developed by Maciej & Lukasz who
>> work at Newcastle Uni. We invited them to join the project with their code.
>>
>> That code was committed to the repo before a grant was provided by
>> Newcastle Uni, whose copyright is on the code.
>>
>> Maciej & Lukasz have been trying to get the Newcastle Uni legal people
>> to complete the grant, without success so far.
>>
>>
>> p
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Raymond
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Pid wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 31/01/2012 15:50, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>>> Hi Pid,
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I can't help on the legal issues, I think directions/actions
>>>>> from our mentors are needed here.
>>>>
>>>> I mean that if we can't get a grant, we'll have to ditch the code.
>>>>
>>>> All the same, I would like to hear what progress the guys have made and
>>>> if there's anything any of us can do to assist - perhaps by talking to
>>>> the relevant people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> p
>>>>
>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/1/31 Pid * <pi...@pidster.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 10:15, Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not me unfortunately, I hope Lukasz or Maciej could be able to do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should we start considering an alternative? I am wincing as I say it,
>>>>>> but if we can't make progress on the legal issue then we'll have to
>>>>>> take some drastic action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Amber
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any progress on the graduation issues mentioned in the last report?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's the status with the mentioned "copyright signoff from
>>>>>>>>> University of Newcastle"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is there anyone that would be able to give an answer to Jukka (mail sent
>>>>>>>> to general@)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> [key:62590808]
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> [key:62590808]
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Maciej Machulak
> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)
Re: Questions for projects
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
2012/3/6 Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com>
> Hi Maciej,
>
> thanks a lot for the update.
> As noticed as well from you this IP clearance issue seems to be a pretty
> "big deal" for the project.
> IANAL but I think it would block our first release if we can not solve it.
> And consequently this would block our potential graduation plan.
> For this reason it would be nice to have a clear picture of the current
> situation and also from the past.
> Just to be clear my intention is only to understand and trying to move
> forward. If any of my questions would look inquisitive or "rude" I do
> apologize in advance.
> As long as I understood Leeloo was a project started under the umbrella of
> the Newcastle University.
> At a certain point you guys decided to donate to the ASF.
> Did the Newcastle University agreed at that point? If yes, does still
> agree now? If yes, :) what is the real blocker/issue? Is it more a formal
> issue?
> Is there any way we (project members/mentors) can help speed the process?
>
> Thanks a lot for your effort on it and regards
>
Thanks to you Antonio as I do have the same the concerns about this topic.
Looking forward to have a clearer view.
Tommaso
>
> Antonio
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Maciej Machulak wrote:
>
> > I've sent emails to various departments at my Uni and included OSS
> > Watch to help. Since I've been in USA for some time now, unfortunately
> > I cannot go and knock on people's doors directly. I see it's a huge
> > issue and it's a total waste of the code that some other (Apache)
> > projects cannot use it. I will do my best to see if there's any update
> > on that issue and if we can move forward.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maciej
> >
> > On 2 March 2012 05:48, Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Maciej,
> >>
> >> sorry to bother you again on it.
> >> But do you have any update ?
> >> I thinks is really time to seriously think about a release and it would
> be nice to hear that also this topic is moving forward.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Antonio
> >>
> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Maciej Machulak wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, that's the correct story. AFAIK there's some progress with the
> >>> grant at the Uni. I've been told it might be issued shortly :-) I'll
> >>> keep bugging them until the grant is issued, no worries ;)
> >>>
> >>> Maciej
> >>>
> >>> On 31 January 2012 15:10, Pid <pi...@pidster.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 31/01/2012 22:52, Raymond Feng wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can somebody familiar with the project history summarize the code
> grant issue? It will help us new folks get the context of the discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Short version, (correct me if I'm wrong someone):
> >>>>
> >>>> An OAuth 2.0 project, LeeLoo, was being developed by Maciej & Lukasz
> who
> >>>> work at Newcastle Uni. We invited them to join the project with
> their code.
> >>>>
> >>>> That code was committed to the repo before a grant was provided by
> >>>> Newcastle Uni, whose copyright is on the code.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maciej & Lukasz have been trying to get the Newcastle Uni legal people
> >>>> to complete the grant, without success so far.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> p
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Raymond
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Pid wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 31/01/2012 15:50, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Pid,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Personally I can't help on the legal issues, I think
> directions/actions
> >>>>>>> from our mentors are needed here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I mean that if we can't get a grant, we'll have to ditch the code.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All the same, I would like to hear what progress the guys have made
> and
> >>>>>> if there's anything any of us can do to assist - perhaps by talking
> to
> >>>>>> the relevant people.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> p
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tommaso
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Pid * <pi...@pidster.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 10:15, Tommaso Teofili <
> tommaso.teofili@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Not me unfortunately, I hope Lukasz or Maciej could be able to
> do that.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Should we start considering an alternative? I am wincing as I
> say it,
> >>>>>>>> but if we can't make progress on the legal issue then we'll have
> to
> >>>>>>>> take some drastic action.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> p
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Tommaso
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi *
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Amber
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Any progress on the graduation issues mentioned in the last
> report?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What's the status with the mentioned "copyright signoff from
> >>>>>>>>>>> University of Newcastle"?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> is there anyone that would be able to give an answer to Jukka
> (mail sent
> >>>>>>>>>> to general@)?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Antonio
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [key:62590808]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> [key:62590808]
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Maciej Machulak
> >>> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
> >>> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Maciej Machulak
> > email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
> > cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)
>
>
Re: Questions for projects
Posted by Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com>.
Hi Maciej,
thanks a lot for the update.
As noticed as well from you this IP clearance issue seems to be a pretty "big deal" for the project.
IANAL but I think it would block our first release if we can not solve it. And consequently this would block our potential graduation plan.
For this reason it would be nice to have a clear picture of the current situation and also from the past.
Just to be clear my intention is only to understand and trying to move forward. If any of my questions would look inquisitive or "rude" I do apologize in advance.
As long as I understood Leeloo was a project started under the umbrella of the Newcastle University.
At a certain point you guys decided to donate to the ASF.
Did the Newcastle University agreed at that point? If yes, does still agree now? If yes, :) what is the real blocker/issue? Is it more a formal issue?
Is there any way we (project members/mentors) can help speed the process?
Thanks a lot for your effort on it and regards
Antonio
On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Maciej Machulak wrote:
> I've sent emails to various departments at my Uni and included OSS
> Watch to help. Since I've been in USA for some time now, unfortunately
> I cannot go and knock on people's doors directly. I see it's a huge
> issue and it's a total waste of the code that some other (Apache)
> projects cannot use it. I will do my best to see if there's any update
> on that issue and if we can move forward.
>
> Cheers,
> Maciej
>
> On 2 March 2012 05:48, Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> Hi Maciej,
>>
>> sorry to bother you again on it.
>> But do you have any update ?
>> I thinks is really time to seriously think about a release and it would be nice to hear that also this topic is moving forward.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Maciej Machulak wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, that's the correct story. AFAIK there's some progress with the
>>> grant at the Uni. I've been told it might be issued shortly :-) I'll
>>> keep bugging them until the grant is issued, no worries ;)
>>>
>>> Maciej
>>>
>>> On 31 January 2012 15:10, Pid <pi...@pidster.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2012 22:52, Raymond Feng wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can somebody familiar with the project history summarize the code grant issue? It will help us new folks get the context of the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Short version, (correct me if I'm wrong someone):
>>>>
>>>> An OAuth 2.0 project, LeeLoo, was being developed by Maciej & Lukasz who
>>>> work at Newcastle Uni. We invited them to join the project with their code.
>>>>
>>>> That code was committed to the repo before a grant was provided by
>>>> Newcastle Uni, whose copyright is on the code.
>>>>
>>>> Maciej & Lukasz have been trying to get the Newcastle Uni legal people
>>>> to complete the grant, without success so far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> p
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Raymond
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Pid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/01/2012 15:50, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Pid,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally I can't help on the legal issues, I think directions/actions
>>>>>>> from our mentors are needed here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean that if we can't get a grant, we'll have to ditch the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the same, I would like to hear what progress the guys have made and
>>>>>> if there's anything any of us can do to assist - perhaps by talking to
>>>>>> the relevant people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Pid * <pi...@pidster.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 10:15, Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not me unfortunately, I hope Lukasz or Maciej could be able to do that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should we start considering an alternative? I am wincing as I say it,
>>>>>>>> but if we can't make progress on the legal issue then we'll have to
>>>>>>>> take some drastic action.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amber
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any progress on the graduation issues mentioned in the last report?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What's the status with the mentioned "copyright signoff from
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Newcastle"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is there anyone that would be able to give an answer to Jukka (mail sent
>>>>>>>>>> to general@)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [key:62590808]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> [key:62590808]
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Maciej Machulak
>>> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
>>> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Maciej Machulak
> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)
Re: Questions for projects
Posted by Maciej Machulak <ma...@gmail.com>.
I've sent emails to various departments at my Uni and included OSS
Watch to help. Since I've been in USA for some time now, unfortunately
I cannot go and knock on people's doors directly. I see it's a huge
issue and it's a total waste of the code that some other (Apache)
projects cannot use it. I will do my best to see if there's any update
on that issue and if we can move forward.
Cheers,
Maciej
On 2 March 2012 05:48, Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Hi Maciej,
>
> sorry to bother you again on it.
> But do you have any update ?
> I thinks is really time to seriously think about a release and it would be nice to hear that also this topic is moving forward.
>
> Thanks
>
> Antonio
>
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Maciej Machulak wrote:
>
>> Yes, that's the correct story. AFAIK there's some progress with the
>> grant at the Uni. I've been told it might be issued shortly :-) I'll
>> keep bugging them until the grant is issued, no worries ;)
>>
>> Maciej
>>
>> On 31 January 2012 15:10, Pid <pi...@pidster.com> wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2012 22:52, Raymond Feng wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Can somebody familiar with the project history summarize the code grant issue? It will help us new folks get the context of the discussion.
>>>
>>> Short version, (correct me if I'm wrong someone):
>>>
>>> An OAuth 2.0 project, LeeLoo, was being developed by Maciej & Lukasz who
>>> work at Newcastle Uni. We invited them to join the project with their code.
>>>
>>> That code was committed to the repo before a grant was provided by
>>> Newcastle Uni, whose copyright is on the code.
>>>
>>> Maciej & Lukasz have been trying to get the Newcastle Uni legal people
>>> to complete the grant, without success so far.
>>>
>>>
>>> p
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Raymond
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Pid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31/01/2012 15:50, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Pid,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I can't help on the legal issues, I think directions/actions
>>>>>> from our mentors are needed here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean that if we can't get a grant, we'll have to ditch the code.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the same, I would like to hear what progress the guys have made and
>>>>> if there's anything any of us can do to assist - perhaps by talking to
>>>>> the relevant people.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> p
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Pid * <pi...@pidster.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 10:15, Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not me unfortunately, I hope Lukasz or Maciej could be able to do that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should we start considering an alternative? I am wincing as I say it,
>>>>>>> but if we can't make progress on the legal issue then we'll have to
>>>>>>> take some drastic action.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> p
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Amber
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any progress on the graduation issues mentioned in the last report?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's the status with the mentioned "copyright signoff from
>>>>>>>>>> University of Newcastle"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is there anyone that would be able to give an answer to Jukka (mail sent
>>>>>>>>> to general@)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> [key:62590808]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> [key:62590808]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Maciej Machulak
>> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
>> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)
>
--
Maciej Machulak
email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)