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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> on 2005/06/21 16:16:46 UTC

Preferred list for Commiter Votes

Once upon a time in Jakarta, all the votes were held on the various
public dev lists, including votes for new Committers.

I've seen rererences on communty@ and members@ that other projects
prefer to have the Committer votes on pmc@.

I've also seen references to some projects "informally discussing"
Committer votes on pmc@, but then having an "official" vote on dev@.

Is it mandatory that Committer votes be held on a public list? 

Or is the decision between pmc@ and dev@ left to the discretion of a PMC?

-Ted.

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Re: Preferred list for Commiter Votes

Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
A note for the mail archives: there is a parallel thread at
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112033720600002

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Re: Preferred list for Commiter Votes

Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
At 09:16 AM 6/21/2005, Ted Husted wrote:

>Is it mandatory that Committer votes be held on a public list? 

The Foundation is modeled after the "Apache Group", which always
held discussion of individuals on private 'core' lists.

>Or is the decision between pmc@ and dev@ left to the discretion of a PMC?

The board has never seen fit to intervene, so I guess it's up to
the discretion of the PMC.  That said, I'd suggest it's not a good
thing to discuss on dev@, since only the PMC has any say over who 
becomes a committer, and PMC members will rarely raise specific 
objections (necessary to make an educated decision) on the public list.

That said, the list archives become available to an individual, 
once they become a member.  So some tact is always a good idea :)

Bill



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RE: Preferred list for Commiter Votes

Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Ted Husted wrote:

> Is it mandatory that Committer votes be held on a public list?

No.

> is the decision between pmc@ and dev@ left to the discretion of a PMC?

Yes.  However, discussion of committers (or other personnel issues) on
public lists is discouraged.  The PMC should either discuss and vote
privately, or discuss privately and have a public, pro-forma, vote after
agreeing to accept.

	--- Noel


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