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Posted to issues@openoffice.apache.org by bu...@apache.org on 2014/05/14 16:09:51 UTC
[Issue 124897] New: Outline numbering position default values
irrational
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124897
Issue ID: 124897
Issue Type: DEFECT
Summary: Outline numbering position default values irrational
Product: Writer
Version: 4.0.1
Hardware: Mac
OS: Mac OSX, 10.5
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: formatting
Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
Reporter: circulars@gmx.com
The default position settings in outline numbering are irrational for all units
other than inches.
Replication
1 Set units to centimetres, tabs to 1.0 cm in preferences.
2 Turn on numbering.
3 Select outline.
4 Select 1.1.1.1.1.1. Click OK.
5 Open bullets and numbering dialogue.
6 Select Position. Level 1 defaults are set to 1.27, 0.64. 1.27, level 2 to
1.91, 1.27, 1.91, with corresponding irrational values for levels 3 to 10.
7 This leaves the user with the task of manually editing 30 settings in order
to restore rational values, which may well require 150 keystrokes or more.
Similar difficulties are experienced working in millimetres, points, and
presumably picas.
The problem is egregious because there is no way to reset the defaults to
values the user would prefer.
This leaves them facing this labourious and unnecessary task repeatedly:
with every new document
repeated within the same document as the customised values are lost on closing
numbering (bug report to follow shortly).
When considering the severity of this bug, please note that most of the world
is now metric, and that outlines are routinely used for very long and serious
documents such as books, and legal briefs which may run to boxes of paper –
literally thousands of pages.
It is presumed this bug applies to all forms of numbering.
Remediation
A method is needed which provides sensible, user-friendly default values for
non-imperialist users.
It would be most welcome if this could cover all measurement default settings.
Many thanks
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[Issue 124897] Where ever possible default should be whole-numbered
(or simple fractions) values for Tab stops, indents, column widths and
similar position properties
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124897
Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Keywords| |needhelp
CC| |rainerbielefeld_ooo_qa@biel
| |efeldundbuss.de,
| |rb.henschel@t-online.de
Component|formatting |ui
Hardware|Mac |All
Product|Writer |General
Summary|Outline numbering position |Where ever possible default
|default values irrational |should be whole-numbered
| |(or simple fractions)
| |values for Tab stops,
| |indents, column widths and
| |similar position properties
OS|Mac OSX, 10.5 |All
--- Comment #1 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
This problem is not only related to Outline Numbering, any positioning seems to
base on inch (or whatever ?) unit with horrible implausible positions. For
example also see "Issue 124886 - Tab position value modified after unit changed
and back"
(a) There is not a simple solution, we would need separate templates for each
measure unit
(b) Not only Writer affected, this problem is in all applications.
@Regina:
In a few tests I always saw not whole-numbered values for several positions,
widths, ... . Is that a technical problem or has that historic or typographic
or whatever reasons?
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