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Posted to l10n@openoffice.apache.org by Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <ba...@gmail.com> on 2013/12/25 03:47:18 UTC
Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/15/13 12:27 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>> Hello
>> My name is Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
>>
>> I am working on Kazakh l10n in LibreOffice (currently at 63%).
>>
>> Historically, initial Kazakh l10n was prepared for OpenOffice back in
>> 2002-2003. Then it stayed unchanged for years and was imported to LibreOffice.
>>
>> The old translation there is currently in 'fuzzy' state, and current 63% were
>> submitted totally by me. There are several people who also participated,
>> but their share is around 280 messages in total. Ideally I will replace
>> old l10n, as its quality is somewhat below appropriate level.
>>
>> When done, I also want to import my work to Apache OO. Technical side
>> is not important here for now.
>>
>> What I want to know is that licensing issue, can I upload my work
>> back to Apache OO? Since after contributing it to LibreOffice,
>> it is under LGPLv3 / MPL there.
>
> your own contribution can you reuse at AOO as well, it's yours, and you
> can make it available under the ALv2. The few changes from other people
> are different and I would suggest to ask them for permission.
>
> Technical problems can be addressed of course later.
>
> Juergen
>
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Hello,
This is a status update,
With the help of Andrea, I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
I have void all previous Kazakh translations, and made a new, clean
import from LibreOffice 4.2.
This is a first, draft import of 100% matched strings, and Kazakh l10n
is at 65% now.
LO 4.2 is at 84% currently. I have to polish comparison rules to find
more matches,
or use msgmerge and co. utilities. This is all in my TODO list. But
first I have to finish LO 4.2.
BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
Thank you very much, Andrea, for your help,
Best regards,
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Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 2/7/14 4:34 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
> <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
>> <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 25/12/2013 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, thank you for trying this experiment in contributing your work to two
>>>> projects! It is not bad that you managed to get 65% starting from an 84%
>>>> translated, which means that 75% of the strings you had are identical and
>>>> could be imported with minimal effort.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's enough to have an explicit request, ongoing activity and a bit of
>>>> patience. I'm CCing Herbert so that he can add "kk" to our buildbot. But
>>>> your changes will show up only when someone (usually Juergen) copies your
>>>> Pootle work into the source code. See
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/tx46i4r7v2qlgtm7 for more.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andrea.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Since the deadline was extended, I have uploaded latest translations from
>>> LibreOffice 4.2 to AOO for Kazakh language.
>>>
>>> For LO Kazakh language has 100% for UI. Importing it to AOO gives
>>> 78% direct and 3% fuzzy translations.
>>>
>>> I just downloaded file
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_kk.exe_1556251.exe
>>> from http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/
>>
>> Oops, it is using the old translations, hope to test a new one soon
>>
>>> and going to test it now. When updated translations from Pootle will
>>> be pulled into test builds?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Best regards
>
> Hello,
>
> I have opened a bugreport to import Kazakh translation from Pootle a while ago
> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124118)
>
> Could someone please tell me whether it is already imported?
> I would like to do a little test before the release,
yes it available since some time but I it seems that I missed to update
the issue or send a note on this list, sorry.
https://translate.apache.org/kk/aoo40/
https://translate.apache.org/kk/aoo40help/
Juergen
>
> Thanks
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Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
Posted by Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <ba...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
<ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
> <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 25/12/2013 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, thank you for trying this experiment in contributing your work to two
>>> projects! It is not bad that you managed to get 65% starting from an 84%
>>> translated, which means that 75% of the strings you had are identical and
>>> could be imported with minimal effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>> BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's enough to have an explicit request, ongoing activity and a bit of
>>> patience. I'm CCing Herbert so that he can add "kk" to our buildbot. But
>>> your changes will show up only when someone (usually Juergen) copies your
>>> Pootle work into the source code. See
>>> http://markmail.org/message/tx46i4r7v2qlgtm7 for more.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Since the deadline was extended, I have uploaded latest translations from
>> LibreOffice 4.2 to AOO for Kazakh language.
>>
>> For LO Kazakh language has 100% for UI. Importing it to AOO gives
>> 78% direct and 3% fuzzy translations.
>>
>> I just downloaded file
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_kk.exe_1556251.exe
>> from http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/
>
> Oops, it is using the old translations, hope to test a new one soon
>
>> and going to test it now. When updated translations from Pootle will
>> be pulled into test builds?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>
> Best regards
Hello,
I have opened a bugreport to import Kazakh translation from Pootle a while ago
(https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124118)
Could someone please tell me whether it is already imported?
I would like to do a little test before the release,
Thanks
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Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
Posted by Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <ba...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
<ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 25/12/2013 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>>>
>>> I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
>>
>>
>> OK, thank you for trying this experiment in contributing your work to two
>> projects! It is not bad that you managed to get 65% starting from an 84%
>> translated, which means that 75% of the strings you had are identical and
>> could be imported with minimal effort.
>>
>>
>>> BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
>>
>>
>> It's enough to have an explicit request, ongoing activity and a bit of
>> patience. I'm CCing Herbert so that he can add "kk" to our buildbot. But
>> your changes will show up only when someone (usually Juergen) copies your
>> Pootle work into the source code. See
>> http://markmail.org/message/tx46i4r7v2qlgtm7 for more.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
>>
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>
> Hello,
>
> Since the deadline was extended, I have uploaded latest translations from
> LibreOffice 4.2 to AOO for Kazakh language.
>
> For LO Kazakh language has 100% for UI. Importing it to AOO gives
> 78% direct and 3% fuzzy translations.
>
> I just downloaded file
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_kk.exe_1556251.exe
> from http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/
Oops, it is using the old translations, hope to test a new one soon
> and going to test it now. When updated translations from Pootle will
> be pulled into test builds?
>
> Thanks for your help!
Best regards
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Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
Posted by Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <ba...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 25/12/2013 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>>
>> I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
>
>
> OK, thank you for trying this experiment in contributing your work to two
> projects! It is not bad that you managed to get 65% starting from an 84%
> translated, which means that 75% of the strings you had are identical and
> could be imported with minimal effort.
>
>
>> BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
>
>
> It's enough to have an explicit request, ongoing activity and a bit of
> patience. I'm CCing Herbert so that he can add "kk" to our buildbot. But
> your changes will show up only when someone (usually Juergen) copies your
> Pootle work into the source code. See
> http://markmail.org/message/tx46i4r7v2qlgtm7 for more.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
>
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Hello,
Since the deadline was extended, I have uploaded latest translations from
LibreOffice 4.2 to AOO for Kazakh language.
For LO Kazakh language has 100% for UI. Importing it to AOO gives
78% direct and 3% fuzzy translations.
I just downloaded file
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_kk.exe_1556251.exe
from http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/
and going to test it now. When updated translations from Pootle will
be pulled into test builds?
Thanks for your help!
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Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 1 January 2014 10:21, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <ba...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > On 25/12/2013 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
> >>
> >> I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
> >
> >
> > OK, thank you for trying this experiment in contributing your work to two
> > projects! It is not bad that you managed to get 65% starting from an 84%
> > translated, which means that 75% of the strings you had are identical and
> > could be imported with minimal effort.
> >
> >
> >> BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
> >
> >
> > It's enough to have an explicit request, ongoing activity and a bit of
> > patience. I'm CCing Herbert so that he can add "kk" to our buildbot. But
> > your changes will show up only when someone (usually Juergen) copies your
> > Pootle work into the source code. See
> > http://markmail.org/message/tx46i4r7v2qlgtm7 for more.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrea.
> >
> >
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>
> Hello,
>
> Do you have a tool to validate PO files for compatibility with OpenOffice?
>
no only an experimental one (genLang), for production we still use the sdf
files.
>
> For example, LibreOffice has pocheck utility (though I never used it).
>
the pocheck utility (at least the one I have installed) do not do the
checks you need.
You need a utility that compares:
- keyid
- en-US text (orignal text)
And notifies you about missing matches. I have the same problem, when we
update translations, so I added a -m (merge) option to genLang
(branch/l10n40), but as I said its not in procution.
rgds
jan I.
>
> Best regards,
>
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Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
Posted by Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <ba...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 25/12/2013 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>>
>> I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
>
>
> OK, thank you for trying this experiment in contributing your work to two
> projects! It is not bad that you managed to get 65% starting from an 84%
> translated, which means that 75% of the strings you had are identical and
> could be imported with minimal effort.
>
>
>> BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
>
>
> It's enough to have an explicit request, ongoing activity and a bit of
> patience. I'm CCing Herbert so that he can add "kk" to our buildbot. But
> your changes will show up only when someone (usually Juergen) copies your
> Pootle work into the source code. See
> http://markmail.org/message/tx46i4r7v2qlgtm7 for more.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
>
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Hello,
Do you have a tool to validate PO files for compatibility with OpenOffice?
For example, LibreOffice has pocheck utility (though I never used it).
Best regards,
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Re: Importing l10n from LibreOffice
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 25/12/2013 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
> I have imported Kazakh translation to AOO 4.0.
OK, thank you for trying this experiment in contributing your work to
two projects! It is not bad that you managed to get 65% starting from an
84% translated, which means that 75% of the strings you had are
identical and could be imported with minimal effort.
> BTW, what percentage level a language should have to get a test builds?
It's enough to have an explicit request, ongoing activity and a bit of
patience. I'm CCing Herbert so that he can add "kk" to our buildbot. But
your changes will show up only when someone (usually Juergen) copies
your Pootle work into the source code. See
http://markmail.org/message/tx46i4r7v2qlgtm7 for more.
Regards,
Andrea.
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