Re: [DISCUSS] Should we have a builds@kudu.apache.org mailing list?

[Andrew Wong <aw...@apache.org>]

Circling back to this, builds@kudu.apache.org is up and running. The
archive can be found here
<ht...@kudu.apache.org>.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 12:29 PM Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com.invalid>
wrote:

> +1 to a new builds@ mailing list. Thanks for driving this Andrew.
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:03 PM Andrew Wong <aw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey!
> >
> > No problem, it is more indicative that there is a gap in Kudu's
> > infrastructure and process with regards to building/testing on different
> > architectures. Hopefully a separate mailing list is a step in the right
> > direction.
> >
> > If there are no objections, I'll submit a ticket to create the mailing
> list
> > at the end of the week (will give some time for folks to continue chiming
> > in, in case there's more feedback).
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:13 PM Sheng Liu <li...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Thanks for bringing this up,  we are the maintainers of the ARM CI,
> sorry
> > > for the noise of dev mailing list from  "Daily KUDU ARM64 Cron Job."
> The
> > > email will only be sent when the ARM CI job failed, looks like the ARM
> CI
> > > job has failed many times these days, sorry for that, we will take a
> look
> > > the status of ARM CI as soon as possible. It will be great if we can
> > create
> > > a specific "builds@kudu.apache.org" mailing list for these CI
> > > notifications.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Liu sheng
> > >
> > > Sheng Liu <li...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月21日周二 上午11:01写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Andrew Wong <aw...@apache.org> 于2020年7月21日周二 上午3:23写道：
> > > >
> > > >> Hello Kudu developers!
> > > >>
> > > >> I've been discussing with some folks about the current state of this
> > > (dev@
> > > >> )
> > > >> mailing list, which has recently gained more traffic from the "Daily
> > > KUDU
> > > >> ARM64 Cron Job." Several people have noticed the alerts becoming
> quite
> > > >> noisy, and crowding the inbox, with very little visibility into the
> > > issue,
> > > >> who is working on fixing it, etc. This doesn't seem like the best
> use
> > of
> > > >> dev@, which historically has been more for design and
> > developer-related
> > > >> discussions.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are some suggestions in KUDU-3007
> > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KUDU-3007> with regards to
> > less
> > > >> trivial testing infra improvements that can be made to incorporate
> ARM
> > > >> testing with the rest of Kudu's CI pipeline. Grant and I have also
> > been
> > > >> discussing the possibility getting a more widely available ARM build
> > via
> > > >> dockerx. These projects, while important, may not have as many
> > developer
> > > >> cycles as we'd like to get them through the finish line, at least
> for
> > > the
> > > >> next few weeks.
> > > >>
> > > >> So until these materialize, one suggestion is to create a new
> mailing
> > > >> list,
> > > >> builds@k.a.o, to catch these, and other build-related issues.
> Today,
> > > such
> > > >> build failures may be reported on Slack at #kudu-general or
> > #kudu-macos,
> > > >> or
> > > >> on Jira -- it might be nice to have a single, archived, searchable
> > list
> > > to
> > > >> document such issues, as well as catch these kinds of CI emails for
> > the
> > > >> time being.
> > > >>
> > > >> Other projects have similar "builds" mailing lists
> > > >> <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/>; it doesn't seem
> > > >> unreasonable
> > > >> to start one for Kudu as well, so per the ASF Mailing List
> Moderation
> > > >> guidelines <https://infra.apache.org/mailing-list-moderation.html>,
> > I'm
> > > >> surfacing this to discuss a bit here. If there's agreement on this
> > > being a
> > > >> useful list to have, I'll send out a request to create it.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Andrew
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Grant Henke
> Software Engineer | Cloudera
> grant@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we have a builds@kudu.apache.org mailing list?

[Sheng Liu <li...@gmail.com>]

Hi Andrew,
Thank for doing this, I have change the ARM CI configurations to use the
builds@kudu.apache.org, let's see if it works.

Regards
---
Liu sheng

Andrew Wong <aw...@apache.org> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午5:58写道：

> Circling back to this, builds@kudu.apache.org is up and running. The
> archive can be found here
> <ht...@kudu.apache.org>.
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 12:29 PM Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 to a new builds@ mailing list. Thanks for driving this Andrew.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:03 PM Andrew Wong <aw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey!
> > >
> > > No problem, it is more indicative that there is a gap in Kudu's
> > > infrastructure and process with regards to building/testing on
> different
> > > architectures. Hopefully a separate mailing list is a step in the right
> > > direction.
> > >
> > > If there are no objections, I'll submit a ticket to create the mailing
> > list
> > > at the end of the week (will give some time for folks to continue
> chiming
> > > in, in case there's more feedback).
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:13 PM Sheng Liu <li...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Thanks for bringing this up,  we are the maintainers of the ARM CI,
> > sorry
> > > > for the noise of dev mailing list from  "Daily KUDU ARM64 Cron Job."
> > The
> > > > email will only be sent when the ARM CI job failed, looks like the
> ARM
> > CI
> > > > job has failed many times these days, sorry for that, we will take a
> > look
> > > > the status of ARM CI as soon as possible. It will be great if we can
> > > create
> > > > a specific "builds@kudu.apache.org" mailing list for these CI
> > > > notifications.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Liu sheng
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Liu <li...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月21日周二 上午11:01写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew Wong <aw...@apache.org> 于2020年7月21日周二 上午3:23写道：
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hello Kudu developers!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've been discussing with some folks about the current state of
> this
> > > > (dev@
> > > > >> )
> > > > >> mailing list, which has recently gained more traffic from the
> "Daily
> > > > KUDU
> > > > >> ARM64 Cron Job." Several people have noticed the alerts becoming
> > quite
> > > > >> noisy, and crowding the inbox, with very little visibility into
> the
> > > > issue,
> > > > >> who is working on fixing it, etc. This doesn't seem like the best
> > use
> > > of
> > > > >> dev@, which historically has been more for design and
> > > developer-related
> > > > >> discussions.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There are some suggestions in KUDU-3007
> > > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KUDU-3007> with regards to
> > > less
> > > > >> trivial testing infra improvements that can be made to incorporate
> > ARM
> > > > >> testing with the rest of Kudu's CI pipeline. Grant and I have also
> > > been
> > > > >> discussing the possibility getting a more widely available ARM
> build
> > > via
> > > > >> dockerx. These projects, while important, may not have as many
> > > developer
> > > > >> cycles as we'd like to get them through the finish line, at least
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > >> next few weeks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So until these materialize, one suggestion is to create a new
> > mailing
> > > > >> list,
> > > > >> builds@k.a.o, to catch these, and other build-related issues.
> > Today,
> > > > such
> > > > >> build failures may be reported on Slack at #kudu-general or
> > > #kudu-macos,
> > > > >> or
> > > > >> on Jira -- it might be nice to have a single, archived, searchable
> > > list
> > > > to
> > > > >> document such issues, as well as catch these kinds of CI emails
> for
> > > the
> > > > >> time being.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Other projects have similar "builds" mailing lists
> > > > >> <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/>; it doesn't seem
> > > > >> unreasonable
> > > > >> to start one for Kudu as well, so per the ASF Mailing List
> > Moderation
> > > > >> guidelines <https://infra.apache.org/mailing-list-moderation.html
> >,
> > > I'm
> > > > >> surfacing this to discuss a bit here. If there's agreement on this
> > > > being a
> > > > >> useful list to have, I'll send out a request to create it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Andrew
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Grant Henke
> > Software Engineer | Cloudera
> > grant@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
> >
>