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Posted to dev@shiro.apache.org by Les Hazlewood <le...@hazlewood.com> on 2008/06/20 18:22:54 UTC
SVN URL
We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
Cheers,
Les
Re: SVN URL
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>.
Jeremy Haile wrote:
> Good points Emmanuel,
>
> I think we should:
> 1) Release the current version as is, as soon as we finish
> testing/bugfixing
> 2) Branch the current release in case any minor bugfixes are needed
> 3) Move all code to the ASF SVN repo. Old repo is abandoned.
> 4) After branching, immediately migrate the trunk to use ASF headers,
> packages, naming, etc.
> 5) Any bugfix releases come from the branch. Next release comes from
> the ASF, trunk version.
>
6) Update the Jsecurity.org web site to ref the Apache Jsecurity
downloads, JIRA, ML etc ... :)
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: SVN URL
Posted by Jeremy Haile <jh...@fastmail.fm>.
Good points Emmanuel,
I think we should:
1) Release the current version as is, as soon as we finish testing/
bugfixing
2) Branch the current release in case any minor bugfixes are needed
3) Move all code to the ASF SVN repo. Old repo is abandoned.
4) After branching, immediately migrate the trunk to use ASF headers,
packages, naming, etc.
5) Any bugfix releases come from the branch. Next release comes from
the ASF, trunk version.
Jeremy
On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> Jeremy Haile wrote:
>> We want to get the next release out ASAP and have already released
>> beta versions of this release. To release under the incubator,
>> we'd need to update package names, etc. which although we
>> definitely need to do this soon, we want to make sure we have
>> enough time to properly QA the release after making such an
>> extensive change.
>
>> So for now, we'd like to get the current release finalized and out
>> the door, then make the packaging changes and any other changes
>> needed to migrate to the incubator. After enough time to QA those
>> changes, the subsequent release would go out under the incubator
>> with new packages, jar names, etc.
> On the other side, if you release outside, you will have bugs to
> fix, and it will take time. It will lead to another release, and the
> same question : "do we release inside or outside" will raise. In any
> case, you may have 2 code bases to maintain...
>
> Unless you release outside, and immediately migrate the code into
> the incubator as is, and change the packages names et all in the
> incubator.
>
> Anyway, the next release after this one will be done under the ASF
> brand, so better move as fast as possible, doing the change on the
> ASF svn repo, as you may find some helpful people who will give you
> an hand for adding the ASF headers, etc...
>
> wdyt ?
>>
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>>
>>> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>> No thoughts?
>>> Nothing forbid JSecurity to be released under Incubator _and_
>>> under the JSecurity current place at the same time ? I guess that
>>> the JSecurity team would like their current users to be able to
>>> get the latest version without having to switch to the ASF
>>> incubator (maybe they are simply not aware that JSciruty is being
>>> incubating ?)
>>>
>>> Except that it will generate more work ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
>>>>> incubator. WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release
>>>>>> out...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> cordialement, regards,
>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>> www.iktek.com
>>> directory.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
Re: SVN URL
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>.
Jeremy Haile wrote:
> We want to get the next release out ASAP and have already released
> beta versions of this release. To release under the incubator, we'd
> need to update package names, etc. which although we definitely need
> to do this soon, we want to make sure we have enough time to properly
> QA the release after making such an extensive change.
> So for now, we'd like to get the current release finalized and out the
> door, then make the packaging changes and any other changes needed to
> migrate to the incubator. After enough time to QA those changes, the
> subsequent release would go out under the incubator with new packages,
> jar names, etc.
On the other side, if you release outside, you will have bugs to fix,
and it will take time. It will lead to another release, and the same
question : "do we release inside or outside" will raise. In any case,
you may have 2 code bases to maintain...
Unless you release outside, and immediately migrate the code into the
incubator as is, and change the packages names et all in the incubator.
Anyway, the next release after this one will be done under the ASF
brand, so better move as fast as possible, doing the change on the ASF
svn repo, as you may find some helpful people who will give you an hand
for adding the ASF headers, etc...
wdyt ?
>
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>
>> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>> No thoughts?
>> Nothing forbid JSecurity to be released under Incubator _and_ under
>> the JSecurity current place at the same time ? I guess that the
>> JSecurity team would like their current users to be able to get the
>> latest version without having to switch to the ASF incubator (maybe
>> they are simply not aware that JSciruty is being incubating ?)
>>
>> Except that it will generate more work ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>
>>>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
>>>> incubator. WDYT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> cordialement, regards,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>> www.iktek.com
>> directory.apache.org
>>
>>
>
>
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: SVN URL
Posted by Jeremy Haile <jh...@fastmail.fm>.
Yes, you are correct.
On Jun 25, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> I take it that the answer is yes?
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>> What will be the version of this external release, 0.9.0?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Jeremy Haile wrote:
>>
>>> We want to get the next release out ASAP and have already released
>>> beta versions of this release. To release under the incubator,
>>> we'd need to update package names, etc. which although we
>>> definitely need to do this soon, we want to make sure we have
>>> enough time to properly QA the release after making such an
>>> extensive change.
>>>
>>> So for now, we'd like to get the current release finalized and out
>>> the door, then make the packaging changes and any other changes
>>> needed to migrate to the incubator. After enough time to QA those
>>> changes, the subsequent release would go out under the incubator
>>> with new packages, jar names, etc.
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>> No thoughts?
>>>> Nothing forbid JSecurity to be released under Incubator _and_
>>>> under the JSecurity current place at the same time ? I guess that
>>>> the JSecurity team would like their current users to be able to
>>>> get the latest version without having to switch to the ASF
>>>> incubator (maybe they are simply not aware that JSciruty is being
>>>> incubating ?)
>>>>
>>>> Except that it will generate more work ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
>>>>>> incubator. WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release
>>>>>>> out...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> cordialement, regards,
>>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>>> www.iktek.com
>>>> directory.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: SVN URL
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
I take it that the answer is yes?
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 24, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> What will be the version of this external release, 0.9.0?
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Jeremy Haile wrote:
>
>> We want to get the next release out ASAP and have already released
>> beta versions of this release. To release under the incubator,
>> we'd need to update package names, etc. which although we
>> definitely need to do this soon, we want to make sure we have
>> enough time to properly QA the release after making such an
>> extensive change.
>>
>> So for now, we'd like to get the current release finalized and out
>> the door, then make the packaging changes and any other changes
>> needed to migrate to the incubator. After enough time to QA those
>> changes, the subsequent release would go out under the incubator
>> with new packages, jar names, etc.
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>>
>>> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>> No thoughts?
>>> Nothing forbid JSecurity to be released under Incubator _and_
>>> under the JSecurity current place at the same time ? I guess that
>>> the JSecurity team would like their current users to be able to
>>> get the latest version without having to switch to the ASF
>>> incubator (maybe they are simply not aware that JSciruty is being
>>> incubating ?)
>>>
>>> Except that it will generate more work ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
>>>>> incubator. WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release
>>>>>> out...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> cordialement, regards,
>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>> www.iktek.com
>>> directory.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: SVN URL
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
What will be the version of this external release, 0.9.0?
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Jeremy Haile wrote:
> We want to get the next release out ASAP and have already released
> beta versions of this release. To release under the incubator, we'd
> need to update package names, etc. which although we definitely need
> to do this soon, we want to make sure we have enough time to
> properly QA the release after making such an extensive change.
>
> So for now, we'd like to get the current release finalized and out
> the door, then make the packaging changes and any other changes
> needed to migrate to the incubator. After enough time to QA those
> changes, the subsequent release would go out under the incubator
> with new packages, jar names, etc.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>
>> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>> No thoughts?
>> Nothing forbid JSecurity to be released under Incubator _and_ under
>> the JSecurity current place at the same time ? I guess that the
>> JSecurity team would like their current users to be able to get the
>> latest version without having to switch to the ASF incubator (maybe
>> they are simply not aware that JSciruty is being incubating ?)
>>
>> Except that it will generate more work ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>
>>>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
>>>> incubator. WDYT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> cordialement, regards,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>> www.iktek.com
>> directory.apache.org
>>
>>
>
>
Re: SVN URL
Posted by Jeremy Haile <jh...@fastmail.fm>.
We want to get the next release out ASAP and have already released
beta versions of this release. To release under the incubator, we'd
need to update package names, etc. which although we definitely need
to do this soon, we want to make sure we have enough time to properly
QA the release after making such an extensive change.
So for now, we'd like to get the current release finalized and out the
door, then make the packaging changes and any other changes needed to
migrate to the incubator. After enough time to QA those changes, the
subsequent release would go out under the incubator with new packages,
jar names, etc.
Jeremy
On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>> No thoughts?
> Nothing forbid JSecurity to be released under Incubator _and_ under
> the JSecurity current place at the same time ? I guess that the
> JSecurity team would like their current users to be able to get the
> latest version without having to switch to the ASF incubator (maybe
> they are simply not aware that JSciruty is being incubating ?)
>
> Except that it will generate more work ...
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
>>> incubator. WDYT?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>>
>>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
Re: SVN URL
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>.
Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> No thoughts?
Nothing forbid JSecurity to be released under Incubator _and_ under the
JSecurity current place at the same time ? I guess that the JSecurity
team would like their current users to be able to get the latest version
without having to switch to the ASF incubator (maybe they are simply not
aware that JSciruty is being incubating ?)
Except that it will generate more work ...
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the incubator.
>> WDYT?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>
>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: SVN URL
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
IIRC the working assumption is that the release will still use the old
package names, and if that's still true, I'd think that release
outside the incubator would be better. To me, release from the Apache
incubator would use the org.apache package names.
Craig
On Jun 24, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> No thoughts?
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
>> incubator. WDYT?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>>
>>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>
>>
>
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: SVN URL
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
No thoughts?
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the
> incubator. WDYT?
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
>> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>>
>> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Les
>>
>
>
Re: SVN URL
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
IMHO, it would be great if the release went out under the incubator.
WDYT?
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
> We're not using this yet, but for future reference, the url is
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jsecurity
>
> We'll switch over to it as soon as we get this next release out...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Les
>