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[ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Quick poll before attempting to release JEXL 3.1;
Should we still release with support for Java 6 or should we move ahead with
at least Java 8 ?
Seems to me Java 6 is old enough to be dropped.
One could still build from source with java 6 if needed.
What do you think ?
Cheers
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Re: [ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Posted by Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hi.
Le mer. 20 mai 2020 à 17:09, David Barts <n5...@mac.com.invalid> a écrit :
>
> Java 6 was released in December 2006, making it 13½ years old. That's
> over 94 in computer years! (Laugh if you want but computer technology
> goes out of date so quickly that I find treating it like dogs in this
> regard to be a useful metric.) Oracle stopped supporting it in 2017,
> meaning that since then the platform has not been receiving critical
> security updates.
>
> I say it’s fine to drop support for it, and to make Java 8 (which is
> still getting critical security updates) the minimum supported version.
We have discussed this time and again; the above is not an
argument to make the release Java 6 incompatible unless you
want to _force_ users to be on the safe side. ;-)
We also agreed a long time ago that if the source requires it, or
the developers _want_ to use new features, it is fine to require
Java 8.
Regards,
Gilles
> On 5/20/20 3:47, henrib wrote:
> > Quick poll before attempting to release JEXL 3.1;
> > Should we still release with support for Java 6 or should we move ahead with
> > at least Java 8 ?
> > Seems to me Java 6 is old enough to be dropped.
> > One could still build from source with java 6 if needed.
> > What do you think ?
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Posted by Xeno Amess <xe...@gmail.com>.
Hi.
As a related topic, I don't think travis-ci still supports openjdk6 in year
2020.
travis-ci does HAVE a tutorial about how to add openjdk6 at:
https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/reference/trusty/
BUT it is totally wrong.
I followed that tutorial but it failed.
https://github.com/apache/commons-jexl/blob/356f7b9c6ba931df2b8e75c8cf258c6dfecaaa70/.travis.yml
https://travis-ci.org/github/XenoAmess/commons-jexl/jobs/689474160
I have no idea why it failed nor how to run openjdk6 on travis-ci.
If anybody have any solution to solve this problem please let me know.
Thanks.
Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> 于2020年5月21日周四 上午1:14写道：
> Drop Java 6, use Java 8 from my POV. It will make builds simpler for all,
> on top of not requiring folks of installing Java 6 to make sure the tests
> pass on that platform.
>
> Use try with resources to clean up the code eventhough Java 7 would be
> enough strictly speaking.
>
> Gary
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020, 11:09 David Barts <n5...@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Java 6 was released in December 2006, making it 13½ years old. That's
> > over 94 in computer years! (Laugh if you want but computer technology
> > goes out of date so quickly that I find treating it like dogs in this
> > regard to be a useful metric.) Oracle stopped supporting it in 2017,
> > meaning that since then the platform has not been receiving critical
> > security updates.
> >
> > I say it’s fine to drop support for it, and to make Java 8 (which is
> > still getting critical security updates) the minimum supported version.
> >
> >
> > On 5/20/20 3:47, henrib wrote:
> > > Quick poll before attempting to release JEXL 3.1;
> > > Should we still release with support for Java 6 or should we move ahead
> > with
> > > at least Java 8 ?
> > > Seems to me Java 6 is old enough to be dropped.
> > > One could still build from source with java 6 if needed.
> > > What do you think ?
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > -- Moroccan proverb
> >
> >
>
Re: [ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Posted by henrib <he...@apache.org>.
Thanks for your inputs: consensus is java 8 is the way to go; reopened
JEXL-249, will fix momentarily.
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Re: [ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Drop Java 6, use Java 8 from my POV. It will make builds simpler for all,
on top of not requiring folks of installing Java 6 to make sure the tests
pass on that platform.
Use try with resources to clean up the code eventhough Java 7 would be
enough strictly speaking.
Gary
On Wed, May 20, 2020, 11:09 David Barts <n5...@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
> Java 6 was released in December 2006, making it 13½ years old. That's
> over 94 in computer years! (Laugh if you want but computer technology
> goes out of date so quickly that I find treating it like dogs in this
> regard to be a useful metric.) Oracle stopped supporting it in 2017,
> meaning that since then the platform has not been receiving critical
> security updates.
>
> I say it’s fine to drop support for it, and to make Java 8 (which is
> still getting critical security updates) the minimum supported version.
>
>
> On 5/20/20 3:47, henrib wrote:
> > Quick poll before attempting to release JEXL 3.1;
> > Should we still release with support for Java 6 or should we move ahead
> with
> > at least Java 8 ?
> > Seems to me Java 6 is old enough to be dropped.
> > One could still build from source with java 6 if needed.
> > What do you think ?
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
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> -- Moroccan proverb
>
>
Re: [ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Posted by David Barts <n5...@mac.com.INVALID>.
Java 6 was released in December 2006, making it 13½ years old. That's
over 94 in computer years! (Laugh if you want but computer technology
goes out of date so quickly that I find treating it like dogs in this
regard to be a useful metric.) Oracle stopped supporting it in 2017,
meaning that since then the platform has not been receiving critical
security updates.
I say it’s fine to drop support for it, and to make Java 8 (which is
still getting critical security updates) the minimum supported version.
On 5/20/20 3:47, henrib wrote:
> Quick poll before attempting to release JEXL 3.1;
> Should we still release with support for Java 6 or should we move ahead with
> at least Java 8 ?
> Seems to me Java 6 is old enough to be dropped.
> One could still build from source with java 6 if needed.
> What do you think ?
> Cheers
>
>
>
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Re: [ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Posted by Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello.
2020-05-20 12:47 UTC+02:00, henrib <he...@apache.org>:
> Quick poll before attempting to release JEXL 3.1;
> Should we still release with support for Java 6 or should we move ahead
> with
> at least Java 8 ?
Does the code use JDK8 features?
> Seems to me Java 6 is old enough to be dropped.
If "old" is a burden, yes, but not a good reason per se.
IOW: What would be the advantages?
> One could still build from source with java 6 if needed.
Doesn't that mean that it would still support Java 6?
Regards,
Gilles
> What do you think ?
> Cheers
>
>
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Re: [ JEXL] Java 6 ?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Make Java 8 the platform minimum IMO.
Gary
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:47 AM henrib <he...@apache.org> wrote:
> Quick poll before attempting to release JEXL 3.1;
> Should we still release with support for Java 6 or should we move ahead
> with
> at least Java 8 ?
> Seems to me Java 6 is old enough to be dropped.
> One could still build from source with java 6 if needed.
> What do you think ?
> Cheers
>
>
>
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