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Posted to dev@royale.apache.org by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com> on 2018/02/19 10:48:44 UTC

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
response. How can we escalate this question higher ?

Thanks, Piotr

2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:

> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-363
>
> -Alex
>
> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will try to
> >follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
> >started legal discussion ?
> >
> >Thanks, Piotr
> >
> >2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >
> >> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to spend
> >> more time on this?
> >>
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for advice in
> >> >case
> >> >of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira with
> >>his
> >> >question ?
> >> >
> >> >[1]
> >> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> >> >s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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> >> >Thanks, Piotr
> >> >
> >> >2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Piotr,
> >> >>
> >> >> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible but
> >> >>outside
> >> >> this project for two reasons:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new Royale UI
> >>Set
> >> >> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will encourage
> >> >>us to
> >> >> think that is more important to invest in our own set that continue
> >> >>working
> >> >> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't control
> >>(and
> >> >> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
> >> >>
> >> >> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do nothing
> >>since
> >> >> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people doesn't
> >> >>get
> >> >> confused
> >> >>
> >> >> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks!
> >> >>
> >> >> Carlos
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> >><pi...@gmail.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi Carlos,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't mind if you do this.
> >> >> > I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo as I
> >> >>stated
> >> >> in
> >> >> > the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't allow I
> >> >>mean
> >> >> > the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
> >> >>example.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will be
> >> >> finished.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks, Piotr
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get that
> >>done
> >> >> soon
> >> >> > > with less noise.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both conflictive
> >> >> examples
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > > my own github account so people interested can access it.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Let me know in order to proceed.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Carlos Rovira
> >> >> > >
> >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Patreon:
> >> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> >>
> >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Piotr Zarzycki
> >> >
> >> >Patreon:
> >> >*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> >Patreon:
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>


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Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.

Hi,

> Part of [2] says "For small amounts of source that is directly consumed by
> the ASF product at runtime in source form, and for which that source is
> unmodified and unlikely to be changed anyway"  That doesn't sound like
> "only in binary form”.

Yep there are some edge case exceptions for the inclusion of specifications DTD’s and the like. I’m not sure that CSS would fit into the "unlikely to be changed” bucket (and as you pointed out it has already changed) which is why I didn’t mention it in my reply. Anyway I see you brought that up in the JIRA and we’ll see what the response is.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.INVALID>.

Part of [2] says "For small amounts of source that is directly consumed by
the ASF product at runtime in source form, and for which that source is
unmodified and unlikely to be changed anyway"  That doesn't sound like
"only in binary form".

But as Piotr says, it isn't worth working against you on this issue.

-Alex

On 2/21/18, 1:11 AM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>> It occurred to me that if you fix up the licensing of these files, we
>> could still bundle it in future releases.  The main issue was that the
>> examples contain modified CC-BY-4.0 content from CSS and HTML files.
>>IMO,
>> if you personally publish the modifications under CC-BY-4.0 in your
>>repo,
>> then Royale will be using unmodified content when bundling these
>>examples.
>
>I think you may be confusing CC-SA [1] (unmodified media can be included)
>with CC-BY [2] (can be included only in binary form). It's easy to do as
>CC license names are not used consistently and the MDL license refers to
>"Creative Commons Attribution International 4.0 License” but the URL
>given is a CC-BY one. [3][4] As always it’s best to check with legal
>discuss if something is unclear.
>
>Thanks,
>Justin
>
>1. 
>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apach
>e.org%2Flegal%2Fresolved.html%23cc-sa&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C
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Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.

I think this subject along with Jira can be closed :) The time which I'm
going to invest into that Example is only to improve UI, definitely not on
license issue. This will happen under my repository.

Thanks for all input guys!
Piotr

2018-02-21 10:11 GMT+01:00 Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>:

> Hi,
>
> > It occurred to me that if you fix up the licensing of these files, we
> > could still bundle it in future releases.  The main issue was that the
> > examples contain modified CC-BY-4.0 content from CSS and HTML files.
> IMO,
> > if you personally publish the modifications under CC-BY-4.0 in your repo,
> > then Royale will be using unmodified content when bundling these
> examples.
>
> I think you may be confusing CC-SA [1] (unmodified media can be included)
> with CC-BY [2] (can be included only in binary form). It's easy to do as CC
> license names are not used consistently and the MDL license refers to
> "Creative Commons Attribution International 4.0 License” but the URL given
> is a CC-BY one. [3][4] As always it’s best to check with legal discuss if
> something is unclear.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa
> 2. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
> 3. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
> 4. https://github.com/google/material-design-lite/blob/mdl-1.x/LICENSE




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Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.

Hi,

> It occurred to me that if you fix up the licensing of these files, we
> could still bundle it in future releases.  The main issue was that the
> examples contain modified CC-BY-4.0 content from CSS and HTML files.  IMO,
> if you personally publish the modifications under CC-BY-4.0 in your repo,
> then Royale will be using unmodified content when bundling these examples.

I think you may be confusing CC-SA [1] (unmodified media can be included) with CC-BY [2] (can be included only in binary form). It's easy to do as CC license names are not used consistently and the MDL license refers to "Creative Commons Attribution International 4.0 License” but the URL given is a CC-BY one. [3][4] As always it’s best to check with legal discuss if something is unclear.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa
2. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
3. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
4. https://github.com/google/material-design-lite/blob/mdl-1.x/LICENSE

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.INVALID>.

It occurred to me that if you fix up the licensing of these files, we
could still bundle it in future releases.  The main issue was that the
examples contain modified CC-BY-4.0 content from CSS and HTML files.  IMO,
if you personally publish the modifications under CC-BY-4.0 in your repo,
then Royale will be using unmodified content when bundling these examples.

So, I think that would involve adding comments to CSS and text from the
HTML files to denote that they came from Material and add Google's headers
to those files.

-Alex

On 2/20/18, 2:26 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
<carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:

>That's cool Piotr! :)
>
>Could you upload MDLBlogExample as well, is not yet finished, but I think
>it deserves to be as well in some repo.
>
>thanks!
>
>Carlos
>
>2018-02-20 22:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
>> MDLExample landed in my repository [1] and live [2]. It will be
>>improved in
>> the next weeks. :)
>>
>> [1]
>> 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
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>> examples/Examples/MDLExample
>> [2] 
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>>edactionscript.com%2Fexamples%2FMDLExample%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ado
>>be.com%7C7f00f29206244347de3508d578b10213%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dec
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>>UPwFBdv2o%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> Thanks, Piotr
>>
>>
>> 2018-02-19 23:07 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>
>> > that would be great! ;)
>> >
>> > 2018-02-19 20:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > > Ok let's leave it as is. I will take MDL to my repository. I don't
>>want
>> > to
>> > > fight with Legal about that.
>> > >
>> > > Carlos I will look into the Vivid soon. :)
>> > >
>> > > Thanks, Piotr
>> > >
>> > > 2018-02-19 20:23 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly.
>>Maybe I
>> > > > express incorrectly. So bad for myself.
>> > > >
>> > > > but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take
>> > priority
>> > > > for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend
>>in
>> > MDL
>> > > > examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.
>> > > >
>> > > > In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload
>> MDLExample
>> > to
>> > > > their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.
>> > > >
>> > > > That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in
>> MDLExample
>> > a
>> > > > long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the
>> > > project,
>> > > > but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL,
>> > Bootstrap,
>> > > > etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in
>>making
>> > our
>> > > > own UI set.
>> > > >
>> > > > @Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic
>>the
>> > > same
>> > > > MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable
>>task
>> > if
>> > > > anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation
>> > parameter,
>> > > we
>> > > > can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that
>> should
>> > > be
>> > > > our goal! :)
>> > > >
>> > > > thanks
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>> > > >
>> > > > > @Dave,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did,
>> but
>> > I
>> > > > > also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two
>> MDL
>> > > > > examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other
>>things
>> > on
>> > > VP
>> > > > > Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I
>> haven't
>> > > > > pinged VP Legal.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > @Piotr,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the
>>JIRA
>> > issue
>> > > > or
>> > > > > ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My 2 cents,
>> > > > > -Alex
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >Carlos,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about
>> projects.
>> > It
>> > > > is
>> > > > > >not helpful and it is not true.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely
>> query
>> > on
>> > > > > >legal-discuss@.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Regards,
>> > > > > >Dave
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Sent from my iPhone
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> > carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > >
>> > > > > >>wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Hi Piotr
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF,
>>you
>> > can
>> > > > > >>upload
>> > > > > >> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> my 2cnt
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > > > >:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice.
>>There
>> is
>> > > no
>> > > > > >>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui
>><aharui@adobe.com.invalid
>> > >:
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>>> I created
>> > > > > >>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > https%3A%2F%2Fissues
>> > > > > >>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
>> > > > > 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
>> > > > > >>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%
>> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > > > > cee
>> > > > > >>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=
>> > > cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
>> > > > > leb6
>> > > > > >>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> -Alex
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > >>>>>wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a
>>JIRA. I
>> > will
>> > > > > >>>>>try to
>> > > > > >>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira
>>since
>> you
>> > > > have
>> > > > > >>>>> started legal discussion ?
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui
>> <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
>> > >:
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we
>> want
>> > > to
>> > > > > >>> spend
>> > > > > >>>>>> more time on this?
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> -Alex
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>> > > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1]
>> for
>> > > > advice
>> > > > > >>> in
>> > > > > >>>>>>> case
>> > > > > >>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ?
>>Maybe
>> > > jira
>> > > > > >>>>>>>with
>> > > > > >>>>>> his
>> > > > > >>>>>>> question ?
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > > >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
>> > > > > >>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > > > > >>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
>> > > > > >>>>>> 928
>> > > > > >>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> > > > > >>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
>> > > > > >>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%
>> 2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=
>> > 0
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > > > >:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be
>> > accesible
>> > > > but
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> outside
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL
>> > library.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in
>>new
>> > > > Royale
>> > > > > >>> UI
>> > > > > >>>>>> Set
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change
>> will
>> > > > > >>> encourage
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> us to
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set
>>that
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>continue
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> working
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we
>> don't
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>control
>> > > > > >>>>>> (and
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components
>>by
>> > > google)
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do,
>>I'll do
>> > > > nothing
>> > > > > >>>>>> since
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so
>> > people
>> > > > > >>> doesn't
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> get
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> confused
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> thanks!
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > >>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my
>>own
>> > repo
>> > > > as I
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> stated
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> in
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By
>> won't
>> > > > > >>> allow I
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> mean
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to
>>have
>> > > that
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> example.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once
>>it
>> > will
>> > > > be
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> finished.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> > > > > >>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > > > > >>>>> :
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we
>>can
>> get
>> > > > that
>> > > > > >>>>>> done
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> soon
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
>> > > > conflictive
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> examples
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access
>> it.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > > > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
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>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
>> 40adobe.com
>> > > > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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>> > > > > >>>>>>>> =0
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
>> 40adobe.com
>> > > > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> --
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > > > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
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>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> --
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
>> > > > > >>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>> > > > > >>>>>>> 
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>> > > > > >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
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>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> --
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Patreon:
>> > > > > >>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>> > > > > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > > > > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
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>> > > > > >>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
>> > > > > >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>> > > > > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > > > > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
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>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> --
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Patreon:
>> > > > > >>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
>> > > > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > > > > %7C38e5360cf2
>> > > > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > > > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
>> > > > > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
>> > > > > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
>> > > > > >>>%3D&reserved=0
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
>> > > > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > > > > %7C38e5360cf2
>> > > > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > > > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
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>> > > > > >>>%3D&reserved=0>*
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> --
>> > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > > > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > > > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > > > > 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
>> > > > > >>d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> > > > > 7C63654654355493816
>> > > > > >>3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%
>> > > > 2BGE%3D&reserved=0
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Carlos Rovira
>> > > > 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7f00f29206244347de3508
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>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >
>> > > Patreon: 
>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7f00f2920624
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>>23990953344&sdata=FS0OdBPJJTDc4n8jif6zt4Z9Pw4ouZoFkDy66J0KM4k%3D&reserved
>>=0
>> > > 
>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7f00f2920624
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>>=0>*
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Carlos Rovira
>> > 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7f00f29206244347de3508
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>
>> Patreon: 
>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7f00f2920624
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>>23991109598&sdata=yyqk%2FZ7Ybsv3CDHpECcBE2ktVzZcec%2Fhd%2BuHCpoZHEY%3D&re
>>served=0
>> 
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>>served=0>*
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Carlos Rovira
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>Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7f00f29206244347de3508d5
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Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.

That's cool Piotr! :)

Could you upload MDLBlogExample as well, is not yet finished, but I think
it deserves to be as well in some repo.

thanks!

Carlos

2018-02-20 22:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:

> MDLExample landed in my repository [1] and live [2]. It will be improved in
> the next weeks. :)
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/piotrzarzycki21/TranspiledActionScript/tree/
> examples/Examples/MDLExample
> [2] https://transpiledactionscript.com/examples/MDLExample/
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
>
> 2018-02-19 23:07 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > that would be great! ;)
> >
> > 2018-02-19 20:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Ok let's leave it as is. I will take MDL to my repository. I don't want
> > to
> > > fight with Legal about that.
> > >
> > > Carlos I will look into the Vivid soon. :)
> > >
> > > Thanks, Piotr
> > >
> > > 2018-02-19 20:23 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly. Maybe I
> > > > express incorrectly. So bad for myself.
> > > >
> > > > but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take
> > priority
> > > > for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend in
> > MDL
> > > > examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.
> > > >
> > > > In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload
> MDLExample
> > to
> > > > their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.
> > > >
> > > > That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in
> MDLExample
> > a
> > > > long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the
> > > project,
> > > > but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL,
> > Bootstrap,
> > > > etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in making
> > our
> > > > own UI set.
> > > >
> > > > @Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic the
> > > same
> > > > MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable task
> > if
> > > > anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation
> > parameter,
> > > we
> > > > can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that
> should
> > > be
> > > > our goal! :)
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > > >
> > > > > @Dave,
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did,
> but
> > I
> > > > > also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two
> MDL
> > > > > examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things
> > on
> > > VP
> > > > > Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I
> haven't
> > > > > pinged VP Legal.
> > > > >
> > > > > @Piotr,
> > > > >
> > > > > As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA
> > issue
> > > > or
> > > > > ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
> > > > >
> > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > -Alex
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Carlos,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about
> projects.
> > It
> > > > is
> > > > > >not helpful and it is not true.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely
> query
> > on
> > > > > >legal-discuss@.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Regards,
> > > > > >Dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > >>wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Piotr
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you
> > can
> > > > > >>upload
> > > > > >> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> my 2cnt
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There
> is
> > > no
> > > > > >>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> > >:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> I created
> > > > > >>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > https%3A%2F%2Fissues
> > > > > >>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
> > > > > 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
> > > > > >>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%
> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > cee
> > > > > >>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=
> > > cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
> > > > > leb6
> > > > > >>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> -Alex
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > >>>>>wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I
> > will
> > > > > >>>>>try to
> > > > > >>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since
> you
> > > > have
> > > > > >>>>> started legal discussion ?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui
> <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> > >:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we
> want
> > > to
> > > > > >>> spend
> > > > > >>>>>> more time on this?
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> -Alex
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1]
> for
> > > > advice
> > > > > >>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>> case
> > > > > >>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe
> > > jira
> > > > > >>>>>>>with
> > > > > >>>>>> his
> > > > > >>>>>>> question ?
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> > > > > >>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> > > > > >>>>>> 928
> > > > > >>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > >>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> > > > > >>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%
> 2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=
> > 0
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be
> > accesible
> > > > but
> > > > > >>>>>>>> outside
> > > > > >>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL
> > library.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
> > > > Royale
> > > > > >>> UI
> > > > > >>>>>> Set
> > > > > >>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change
> will
> > > > > >>> encourage
> > > > > >>>>>>>> us to
> > > > > >>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
> > > > > >>>>>>>>continue
> > > > > >>>>>>>> working
> > > > > >>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we
> don't
> > > > > >>>>>>>>control
> > > > > >>>>>> (and
> > > > > >>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by
> > > google)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
> > > > nothing
> > > > > >>>>>> since
> > > > > >>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so
> > people
> > > > > >>> doesn't
> > > > > >>>>>>>> get
> > > > > >>>>>>>> confused
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> thanks!
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own
> > repo
> > > > as I
> > > > > >>>>>>>> stated
> > > > > >>>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By
> won't
> > > > > >>> allow I
> > > > > >>>>>>>> mean
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have
> > > that
> > > > > >>>>>>>> example.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > >>>>>>>> finished.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > >>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > > >>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can
> get
> > > > that
> > > > > >>>>>> done
> > > > > >>>>>>>> soon
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
> > > > conflictive
> > > > > >>>>>>>> examples
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access
> it.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
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> > > > > >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > > > > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > >>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > > > > >>>>>>>> =0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com
> > > > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
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> > > > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
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> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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> > > > > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > >>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > > >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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> > > > > >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
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> > > > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Patreon:
> > > > > >>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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> > > > > >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
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> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Patreon:
> > > > > >>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > > > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > %7C38e5360cf2
> > > > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > > > > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> > > > > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> > > > > >>>%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > > > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > > %7C38e5360cf2
> > > > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > > > > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
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> > > > > >>>%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > > 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
> > > > > >>d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > > 7C63654654355493816
> > > > > >>3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%
> > > > 2BGE%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>



-- 
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.

Since I have already committed that to my repository and there are some
plans in my head to that example. In that case I won't probably commit
anything there if you put it to the royale-extras. No objections from my
sight. :)

Thanks, Piotr


2018-02-22 8:41 GMT+01:00 Gabe Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:

> What do you think about putting the example in Royale-extras?
> https://github.com/royale-extras <https://github.com/royale-extras>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2018, at 11:49 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > MDLExample landed in my repository [1] and live [2]. It will be improved
> in
> > the next weeks. :)
> >
> > [1]
> > https://github.com/piotrzarzycki21/TranspiledActionScript/tree/
> examples/Examples/MDLExample
> > [2] https://transpiledactionscript.com/examples/MDLExample/
> >
> > Thanks, Piotr
> >
> >
> > 2018-02-19 23:07 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> >> that would be great! ;)
> >>
> >> 2018-02-19 20:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Ok let's leave it as is. I will take MDL to my repository. I don't want
> >> to
> >>> fight with Legal about that.
> >>>
> >>> Carlos I will look into the Vivid soon. :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>
> >>> 2018-02-19 20:23 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly. Maybe I
> >>>> express incorrectly. So bad for myself.
> >>>>
> >>>> but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take
> >> priority
> >>>> for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend in
> >> MDL
> >>>> examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload MDLExample
> >> to
> >>>> their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in MDLExample
> >> a
> >>>> long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the
> >>> project,
> >>>> but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL,
> >> Bootstrap,
> >>>> etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in making
> >> our
> >>>> own UI set.
> >>>>
> >>>> @Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic the
> >>> same
> >>>> MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable task
> >> if
> >>>> anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation
> >> parameter,
> >>> we
> >>>> can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that
> should
> >>> be
> >>>> our goal! :)
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> @Dave,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but
> >> I
> >>>>> also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL
> >>>>> examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things
> >> on
> >>> VP
> >>>>> Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't
> >>>>> pinged VP Legal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @Piotr,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA
> >> issue
> >>>> or
> >>>>> ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My 2 cents,
> >>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Carlos,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects.
> >> It
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> not helpful and it is not true.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query
> >> on
> >>>>>> legal-discuss@.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Piotr
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you
> >> can
> >>>>>>> upload
> >>>>>>> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> my 2cnt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >>>>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is
> >>> no
> >>>>>>>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> >>> :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I created
> >>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fissues
> >>>>>>>>> .apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
> >>>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
> >>>>>>>>> om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%
> >>> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>> cee
> >>>>>>>>> 1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=
> >>> cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
> >>>>> leb6
> >>>>>>>>> f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> >> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I
> >> will
> >>>>>>>>>> try to
> >>>>>>>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you
> >>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> started legal discussion ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> >>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>> spend
> >>>>>>>>>>> more time on this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> >>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for
> >>>> advice
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> case
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe
> >>> jira
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>> question ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> >>>>>>>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> >>>>>>>>>>> 928
> >>>>>>>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >>>>>>>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=
> >> 0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be
> >> accesible
> >>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> outside
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL
> >> library.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
> >>>> Royale
> >>>>>>>> UI
> >>>>>>>>>>> Set
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
> >>>>>>>> encourage
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> us to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> continue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> control
> >>>>>>>>>>> (and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by
> >>> google)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
> >>>> nothing
> >>>>>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so
> >> people
> >>>>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> confused
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own
> >> repo
> >>>> as I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
> >>>>>>>> allow I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have
> >>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> example.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it
> >> will
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> finished.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
> >>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
> >>>> conflictive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >>>>>>>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> >>>>>>>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>>>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> >>>>>>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> =0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>>>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> >>>>>>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> =0>*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >>>>>>>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
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> >>>>>>>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>>>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
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> >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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> >>>>>>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>>>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> >>>>>>>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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> >>>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>>>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> >>>>>>>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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> >>>>>>>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> >>>>>>>> treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >>>>> %7C38e5360cf2
> >>>>>>>> 0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> >>>>>>>> 46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> >>>>> 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> >>>>>>>> %3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> >>>>>>>> treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >>>>> %7C38e5360cf2
> >>>>>>>> 0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
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> >>>>> 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> >>>>>>>> %3D&reserved=0>*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>> 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
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> >>>>> 7C63654654355493816
> >>>>>>> 3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%
> >>>> 2BGE%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>
> >>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> >>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
>


-- 

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Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Gabe Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.

What do you think about putting the example in Royale-extras? https://github.com/royale-extras <https://github.com/royale-extras>

> On Feb 20, 2018, at 11:49 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> MDLExample landed in my repository [1] and live [2]. It will be improved in
> the next weeks. :)
> 
> [1]
> https://github.com/piotrzarzycki21/TranspiledActionScript/tree/examples/Examples/MDLExample
> [2] https://transpiledactionscript.com/examples/MDLExample/
> 
> Thanks, Piotr
> 
> 
> 2018-02-19 23:07 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> 
>> that would be great! ;)
>> 
>> 2018-02-19 20:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> Ok let's leave it as is. I will take MDL to my repository. I don't want
>> to
>>> fight with Legal about that.
>>> 
>>> Carlos I will look into the Vivid soon. :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>> 
>>> 2018-02-19 20:23 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly. Maybe I
>>>> express incorrectly. So bad for myself.
>>>> 
>>>> but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take
>> priority
>>>> for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend in
>> MDL
>>>> examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.
>>>> 
>>>> In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload MDLExample
>> to
>>>> their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.
>>>> 
>>>> That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in MDLExample
>> a
>>>> long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the
>>> project,
>>>> but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL,
>> Bootstrap,
>>>> etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in making
>> our
>>>> own UI set.
>>>> 
>>>> @Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic the
>>> same
>>>> MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable task
>> if
>>>> anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation
>> parameter,
>>> we
>>>> can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that should
>>> be
>>>> our goal! :)
>>>> 
>>>> thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>>>> 
>>>>> @Dave,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but
>> I
>>>>> also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL
>>>>> examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things
>> on
>>> VP
>>>>> Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't
>>>>> pinged VP Legal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Piotr,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA
>> issue
>>>> or
>>>>> ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> My 2 cents,
>>>>> -Alex
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Carlos,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects.
>> It
>>>> is
>>>>>> not helpful and it is not true.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query
>> on
>>>>>> legal-discuss@.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Piotr
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you
>> can
>>>>>>> upload
>>>>>>> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> my 2cnt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is
>>> no
>>>>>>>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
>>> :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I created
>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fissues
>>>>>>>>> .apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
>>>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
>>>>>>>>> om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%
>>> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>> cee
>>>>>>>>> 1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=
>>> cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
>>>>> leb6
>>>>>>>>> f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I
>> will
>>>>>>>>>> try to
>>>>>>>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> started legal discussion ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
>>> :
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want
>>> to
>>>>>>>> spend
>>>>>>>>>>> more time on this?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for
>>>> advice
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe
>>> jira
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>> question ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
>>>>>>>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
>>>>>>>>>>> 928
>>>>>>>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>>>>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=
>> 0
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be
>> accesible
>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL
>> library.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
>>>> Royale
>>>>>>>> UI
>>>>>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by
>>> google)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so
>> people
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own
>> repo
>>>> as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
>>>>>>>> allow I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have
>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it
>> will
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
>>>> conflictive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
>>>>>>>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>>>>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
>>>>>>>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>>>>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>>>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>>>>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>>>>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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>>>>>>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =0>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
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>>>>>>>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
>>>>>>>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
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>>>>>>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>>>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
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>>>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>>>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
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>>>>>>>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
>>>>>>>> treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>> %7C38e5360cf2
>>>>>>>> 0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
>>>>>>>> 46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
>>>>> 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
>>>>>>>> %3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
>>>>>>>> treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>> %7C38e5360cf2
>>>>>>>> 0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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>>>>> 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
>>>>>>>> %3D&reserved=0>*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>> 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
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>>>> 2BGE%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>> 
>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Piotr Zarzycki
> 
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.

MDLExample landed in my repository [1] and live [2]. It will be improved in
the next weeks. :)

[1]
https://github.com/piotrzarzycki21/TranspiledActionScript/tree/examples/Examples/MDLExample
[2] https://transpiledactionscript.com/examples/MDLExample/

Thanks, Piotr


2018-02-19 23:07 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:

> that would be great! ;)
>
> 2018-02-19 20:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Ok let's leave it as is. I will take MDL to my repository. I don't want
> to
> > fight with Legal about that.
> >
> > Carlos I will look into the Vivid soon. :)
> >
> > Thanks, Piotr
> >
> > 2018-02-19 20:23 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly. Maybe I
> > > express incorrectly. So bad for myself.
> > >
> > > but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take
> priority
> > > for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend in
> MDL
> > > examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.
> > >
> > > In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload MDLExample
> to
> > > their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.
> > >
> > > That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in MDLExample
> a
> > > long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the
> > project,
> > > but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL,
> Bootstrap,
> > > etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in making
> our
> > > own UI set.
> > >
> > > @Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic the
> > same
> > > MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable task
> if
> > > anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation
> parameter,
> > we
> > > can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that should
> > be
> > > our goal! :)
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > >
> > > > @Dave,
> > > >
> > > > I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but
> I
> > > > also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL
> > > > examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things
> on
> > VP
> > > > Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't
> > > > pinged VP Legal.
> > > >
> > > > @Piotr,
> > > >
> > > > As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA
> issue
> > > or
> > > > ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
> > > >
> > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > -Alex
> > > >
> > > > On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Carlos,
> > > > >
> > > > >Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects.
> It
> > > is
> > > > >not helpful and it is not true.
> > > > >
> > > > >There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query
> on
> > > > >legal-discuss@.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards,
> > > > >Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >
> > > > >>wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Piotr
> > > > >>
> > > > >> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you
> can
> > > > >>upload
> > > > >> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> my 2cnt
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is
> > no
> > > > >>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> >:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> I created
> > > > >>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > https%3A%2F%2Fissues
> > > > >>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
> > > > 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
> > > > >>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%
> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > cee
> > > > >>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=
> > cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
> > > > leb6
> > > > >>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> -Alex
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > >>>>>wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I
> will
> > > > >>>>>try to
> > > > >>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you
> > > have
> > > > >>>>> started legal discussion ?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> >:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want
> > to
> > > > >>> spend
> > > > >>>>>> more time on this?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> -Alex
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for
> > > advice
> > > > >>> in
> > > > >>>>>>> case
> > > > >>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe
> > jira
> > > > >>>>>>>with
> > > > >>>>>> his
> > > > >>>>>>> question ?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > > >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> > > > >>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> > > > >>>>>> 928
> > > > >>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> > > > >>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=
> 0
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be
> accesible
> > > but
> > > > >>>>>>>> outside
> > > > >>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL
> library.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
> > > Royale
> > > > >>> UI
> > > > >>>>>> Set
> > > > >>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
> > > > >>> encourage
> > > > >>>>>>>> us to
> > > > >>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
> > > > >>>>>>>>continue
> > > > >>>>>>>> working
> > > > >>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
> > > > >>>>>>>>control
> > > > >>>>>> (and
> > > > >>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by
> > google)
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
> > > nothing
> > > > >>>>>> since
> > > > >>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so
> people
> > > > >>> doesn't
> > > > >>>>>>>> get
> > > > >>>>>>>> confused
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> thanks!
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
> > > > >>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own
> repo
> > > as I
> > > > >>>>>>>> stated
> > > > >>>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
> > > > >>> allow I
> > > > >>>>>>>> mean
> > > > >>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have
> > that
> > > > >>>>>>>> example.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it
> will
> > > be
> > > > >>>>>>>> finished.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >>>>> :
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
> > > that
> > > > >>>>>> done
> > > > >>>>>>>> soon
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
> > > conflictive
> > > > >>>>>>>> examples
> > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > > > >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> > > > >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > > > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > > > >>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > > > >>>>>>>> =0
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > > > >>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > > > >>>>>>>> =0>*
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > > > >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> > > > >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > > > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > > > >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > > >>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > > > >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > > > >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > > > >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> > > > >>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> > > > >>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > > > >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> > > > >>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> > > > >>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Patreon:
> > > > >>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > %7C38e5360cf2
> > > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > > > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> > > > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> > > > >>>%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > %7C38e5360cf2
> > > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > > > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> > > > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> > > > >>>%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>
> > > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
> > > > >>d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > 7C63654654355493816
> > > > >>3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%
> > > 2BGE%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>



-- 

Piotr Zarzycki

Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.

that would be great! ;)

2018-02-19 20:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:

> Ok let's leave it as is. I will take MDL to my repository. I don't want to
> fight with Legal about that.
>
> Carlos I will look into the Vivid soon. :)
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
> 2018-02-19 20:23 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly. Maybe I
> > express incorrectly. So bad for myself.
> >
> > but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take priority
> > for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend in MDL
> > examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.
> >
> > In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload MDLExample to
> > their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.
> >
> > That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in MDLExample a
> > long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the
> project,
> > but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL, Bootstrap,
> > etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in making our
> > own UI set.
> >
> > @Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic the
> same
> > MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable task if
> > anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation parameter,
> we
> > can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that should
> be
> > our goal! :)
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >
> > > @Dave,
> > >
> > > I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but I
> > > also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL
> > > examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things on
> VP
> > > Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't
> > > pinged VP Legal.
> > >
> > > @Piotr,
> > >
> > > As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA issue
> > or
> > > ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
> > >
> > > My 2 cents,
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > > On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Carlos,
> > > >
> > > >Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects. It
> > is
> > > >not helpful and it is not true.
> > > >
> > > >There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query on
> > > >legal-discuss@.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Dave
> > > >
> > > >Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > >> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >
> > > >>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Piotr
> > > >>
> > > >> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can
> > > >>upload
> > > >> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
> > > >>
> > > >> my 2cnt
> > > >>
> > > >> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > >>
> > > >>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is
> no
> > > >>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I created
> > > >>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fissues
> > > >>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
> > > 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
> > > >>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > cee
> > > >>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=
> cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
> > > leb6
> > > >>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Alex
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >
> > > >>>>>wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will
> > > >>>>>try to
> > > >>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you
> > have
> > > >>>>> started legal discussion ?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want
> to
> > > >>> spend
> > > >>>>>> more time on this?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> -Alex
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for
> > advice
> > > >>> in
> > > >>>>>>> case
> > > >>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe
> jira
> > > >>>>>>>with
> > > >>>>>> his
> > > >>>>>>> question ?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> > > >>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> > > >>>>>> 928
> > > >>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> > > >>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible
> > but
> > > >>>>>>>> outside
> > > >>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
> > Royale
> > > >>> UI
> > > >>>>>> Set
> > > >>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
> > > >>> encourage
> > > >>>>>>>> us to
> > > >>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
> > > >>>>>>>>continue
> > > >>>>>>>> working
> > > >>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
> > > >>>>>>>>control
> > > >>>>>> (and
> > > >>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by
> google)
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
> > nothing
> > > >>>>>> since
> > > >>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
> > > >>> doesn't
> > > >>>>>>>> get
> > > >>>>>>>> confused
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> thanks!
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Carlos
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
> > > >>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo
> > as I
> > > >>>>>>>> stated
> > > >>>>>>>> in
> > > >>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
> > > >>> allow I
> > > >>>>>>>> mean
> > > >>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have
> that
> > > >>>>>>>> example.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will
> > be
> > > >>>>>>>> finished.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > >>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
> > that
> > > >>>>>> done
> > > >>>>>>>> soon
> > > >>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
> > conflictive
> > > >>>>>>>> examples
> > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > > >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> > > >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
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> > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > > >>>>>>>> =0
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
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> > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > > >>>>>>>> =0>*
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > > >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> > > >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > > >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > >>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > > >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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> > > >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Patreon:
> > > >>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > > >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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> > > >>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > > >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> > > >>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> > > >>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Patreon:
> > > >>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > %7C38e5360cf2
> > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> > > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> > > >>>%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>>
> > > >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > %7C38e5360cf2
> > > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> > > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> > > >>>%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>
> > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
> > > >>d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > 7C63654654355493816
> > > >>3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%
> > 2BGE%3D&reserved=0
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>



-- 
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.

Ok let's leave it as is. I will take MDL to my repository. I don't want to
fight with Legal about that.

Carlos I will look into the Vivid soon. :)

Thanks, Piotr

2018-02-19 20:23 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:

> Hi,
>
> as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly. Maybe I
> express incorrectly. So bad for myself.
>
> but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take priority
> for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend in MDL
> examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.
>
> In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload MDLExample to
> their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.
>
> That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in MDLExample a
> long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the project,
> but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL, Bootstrap,
> etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in making our
> own UI set.
>
> @Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic the same
> MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable task if
> anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation parameter, we
> can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that should be
> our goal! :)
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> 2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>
> > @Dave,
> >
> > I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but I
> > also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL
> > examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things on VP
> > Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't
> > pinged VP Legal.
> >
> > @Piotr,
> >
> > As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA issue
> or
> > ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
> >
> > My 2 cents,
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Carlos,
> > >
> > >Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects. It
> is
> > >not helpful and it is not true.
> > >
> > >There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query on
> > >legal-discuss@.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Piotr
> > >>
> > >> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can
> > >>upload
> > >> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
> > >>
> > >> my 2cnt
> > >>
> > >> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >:
> > >>
> > >>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
> > >>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >>>
> > >>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I created
> > >>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fissues
> > >>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
> > 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
> > >>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > cee
> > >>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
> > leb6
> > >>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Alex
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will
> > >>>>>try to
> > >>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you
> have
> > >>>>> started legal discussion ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
> > >>> spend
> > >>>>>> more time on this?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -Alex
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for
> advice
> > >>> in
> > >>>>>>> case
> > >>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira
> > >>>>>>>with
> > >>>>>> his
> > >>>>>>> question ?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> > >>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> > >>>>>> 928
> > >>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> > >>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible
> but
> > >>>>>>>> outside
> > >>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
> Royale
> > >>> UI
> > >>>>>> Set
> > >>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
> > >>> encourage
> > >>>>>>>> us to
> > >>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
> > >>>>>>>>continue
> > >>>>>>>> working
> > >>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
> > >>>>>>>>control
> > >>>>>> (and
> > >>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
> nothing
> > >>>>>> since
> > >>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
> > >>> doesn't
> > >>>>>>>> get
> > >>>>>>>> confused
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Carlos
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
> > >>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo
> as I
> > >>>>>>>> stated
> > >>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
> > >>> allow I
> > >>>>>>>> mean
> > >>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
> > >>>>>>>> example.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will
> be
> > >>>>>>>> finished.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > >>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
> that
> > >>>>>> done
> > >>>>>>>> soon
> > >>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
> conflictive
> > >>>>>>>> examples
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> > >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > >>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > >>>>>>>> =0
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> > >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > >>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > >>>>>>>> =0>*
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> > >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > >>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Patreon:
> > >>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> > >>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> > >>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> > >>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> > >>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >>>
> > >>> Patreon:
> > >>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > %7C38e5360cf2
> > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> > >>>%3D&reserved=0
> > >>>
> > >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> > >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > %7C38e5360cf2
> > >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> > >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> > 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> > >>>%3D&reserved=0>*
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >>
> > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
> > >>d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > 7C63654654355493816
> > >>3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%
> 2BGE%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>



-- 

Piotr Zarzycki

Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.

Hi,

as Alex said, Dave and Piotr understand my word incorrectly. Maybe I
express incorrectly. So bad for myself.

but anyway, I'm with Alex that we as "Apache Royale" should take priority
for our own UI set, and I prefer all the time that we could spend in MDL
examples will go to make our own set looks beautiful.

In the end, whatever we interpret, is that Piotr can upload MDLExample to
their GitHub so make it accesible to anyone.

That's my opinion on this, although I invest lot of time in MDLExample a
long with Piotr, my intention was to catch eyes and people for the project,
but in the end I see clearly that any *imported* UI set (MDL, Bootstrap,
etc...) are not the way we should take. Our future depends in making our
own UI set.

@Piotr, after testing with Vivid, I see clearly that we can mimic the same
MDL looks, maybe not 100%, but very closely...and seems a doable task if
anyone is interesed as a theme, and with only one compilation parameter, we
can make the entire app looks completly different...I think that should be
our goal! :)

thanks



2018-02-19 17:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:

> @Dave,
>
> I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but I
> also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL
> examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things on VP
> Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't
> pinged VP Legal.
>
> @Piotr,
>
> As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA issue or
> ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Carlos,
> >
> >Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects. It is
> >not helpful and it is not true.
> >
> >There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query on
> >legal-discuss@.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Dave
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Piotr
> >>
> >> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can
> >>upload
> >> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
> >>
> >> my 2cnt
> >>
> >> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
> >>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>
> >>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >>>
> >>>> I created
> >>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fissues
> >>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%
> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
> >>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee
> >>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjl
> leb6
> >>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>
> >>>> -Alex
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will
> >>>>>try to
> >>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
> >>>>> started legal discussion ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
> >>> spend
> >>>>>> more time on this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for advice
> >>> in
> >>>>>>> case
> >>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira
> >>>>>>>with
> >>>>>> his
> >>>>>>> question ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> >>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> >>>>>> 928
> >>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> >>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible but
> >>>>>>>> outside
> >>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new Royale
> >>> UI
> >>>>>> Set
> >>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
> >>> encourage
> >>>>>>>> us to
> >>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
> >>>>>>>>continue
> >>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
> >>>>>>>>control
> >>>>>> (and
> >>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do nothing
> >>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
> >>> doesn't
> >>>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>> confused
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> thanks!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
> >>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo as I
> >>>>>>>> stated
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
> >>> allow I
> >>>>>>>> mean
> >>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
> >>>>>>>> example.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will be
> >>>>>>>> finished.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get that
> >>>>>> done
> >>>>>>>> soon
> >>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both conflictive
> >>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> >>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> >>>>>>>> =0
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
> >>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> >>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> >>>>>>>> =0>*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> >>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
> >>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> >>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Patreon:
> >>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> >>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
> >>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> >>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> >>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Patreon:
> >>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> >>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> >>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> >>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> >>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> >>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >>>
> >>> Patreon:
> >>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7C38e5360cf2
> >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> >>>%3D&reserved=0
> >>>
> >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
> >>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7C38e5360cf2
> >>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
> >>>46543554938163&sdata=3WgXSL%2FHc5rW5GD6%2B8%
> 2BN6BMEaHrtttH4oYt%2FZuiuRg8
> >>>%3D&reserved=0>*
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> 7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
> >>d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C63654654355493816
> >>3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%2BGE%3D&reserved=0
> >
>
>


-- 
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.INVALID>.

@Dave,

I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but I
also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL
examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things on VP
Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't
pinged VP Legal.

@Piotr,

As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA issue or
ask politely on legal-discuss.  Again, how important is it?

My 2 cents,
-Alex

On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Carlos,
>
>Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects. It is
>not helpful and it is not true.
>
>There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query on
>legal-discuss@.
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
>>wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Piotr
>> 
>> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can
>>upload
>> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
>> 
>> my 2cnt
>> 
>> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
>>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>> 
>>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>>> 
>>>> I created 
>>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fissues
>>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c
>>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee
>>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjlleb6
>>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 
>>>> -Alex
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will
>>>>>try to
>>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
>>>>> started legal discussion ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
>>> spend
>>>>>> more time on this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for advice
>>> in
>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> question ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
>>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
>>>>>> 928
>>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
>>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible but
>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new Royale
>>> UI
>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
>>> encourage
>>>>>>>> us to
>>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
>>>>>>>>continue
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
>>>>>>>>control
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do nothing
>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> confused
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
>>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo as I
>>>>>>>> stated
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
>>> allow I
>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will be
>>>>>>>> finished.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get that
>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both conflictive
>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
>>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
>>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
>>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
>>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>>>>>>>> =0
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
>>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>>>>>>>> =0>*
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
>>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
>>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
>>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
>>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
>>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
>>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
>>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
>>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
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>>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>> 
>>> Patreon: 
>>>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
>>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C38e5360cf2
>>>0847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365
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>>>%3D&reserved=0
>>> 
>>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa
>>>treon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C38e5360cf2
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>>>%3D&reserved=0>*
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Carlos Rovira
>> 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508
>>d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63654654355493816
>>3&sdata=d4oST0duAc8PLh%2FspgSZo9krc%2FOzm8xgyCgs0LER%2BGE%3D&reserved=0
>

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.

Carlos,

Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects. It is not helpful and it is not true.

There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query on legal-discuss@.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Piotr
> 
> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can upload
> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
> 
> my 2cnt
> 
> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
>> 
>> Thanks, Piotr
>> 
>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>> 
>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-363
>>> 
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will try to
>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
>>>> started legal discussion ?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>> 
>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
>> spend
>>>>> more time on this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Alex
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for advice
>> in
>>>>>> case
>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira with
>>>>> his
>>>>>> question ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
>>>>> 928
>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Piotr,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible but
>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>> this project for two reasons:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new Royale
>> UI
>>>>> Set
>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
>> encourage
>>>>>>> us to
>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that continue
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't control
>>>>> (and
>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do nothing
>>>>> since
>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
>> doesn't
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> confused
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>> <pi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this.
>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo as I
>>>>>>> stated
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
>> allow I
>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will be
>>>>>>> finished.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>>>> :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get that
>>>>> done
>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>> with less noise.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both conflictive
>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>>>>>>> =0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>>>>>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>>>>> %7C4d3f223be176
>>>>>>> 4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
>>>>>>> 62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>>>>>>> =0>*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
>>>>>>> d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>>>> 7C63652736277815301
>>>>>>> 0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Patreon:
>>>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>>>> 7C4d3f223be17641
>>>>>> 99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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>>>>>> 78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>>>>> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>> 
>>>> Patreon:
>>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>>>> eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>>> 7Ce4548925f79c4e
>>>> 1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
>>>> 63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
>>> 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> 
>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.

Hi Carlos,

I just cannot believe that there is no way to get's attention someone from
ASF Legal. Maybe we should write with general question to members list ?



2018-02-19 15:52 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:

> Hi Piotr
>
> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can upload
> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
>
> my 2cnt
>
> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
> > response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
> >
> > Thanks, Piotr
> >
> > 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >
> > > I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-363
> > >
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > > On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will try
> to
> > > >follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
> > > >started legal discussion ?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks, Piotr
> > > >
> > > >2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > > >
> > > >> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
> > spend
> > > >> more time on this?
> > > >>
> > > >> -Alex
> > > >>
> > > >> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for advice
> > in
> > > >> >case
> > > >> >of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira
> with
> > > >>his
> > > >> >question ?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >[1]
> > > >> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> > > >> >s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> > > >> 928
> > > >> >c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> > > >> >5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Thanks, Piotr
> > > >> >
> > > >> >2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrovira@apache.org
> >:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi Piotr,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible
> but
> > > >> >>outside
> > > >> >> this project for two reasons:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new Royale
> > UI
> > > >>Set
> > > >> >> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
> > encourage
> > > >> >>us to
> > > >> >> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
> continue
> > > >> >>working
> > > >> >> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
> control
> > > >>(and
> > > >> >> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
> nothing
> > > >>since
> > > >> >> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
> > doesn't
> > > >> >>get
> > > >> >> confused
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> thanks!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Carlos
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >><pi...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Hi Carlos,
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I don't mind if you do this.
> > > >> >> > I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo
> as I
> > > >> >>stated
> > > >> >> in
> > > >> >> > the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
> > allow I
> > > >> >>mean
> > > >> >> > the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
> > > >> >>example.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will
> be
> > > >> >> finished.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Thanks, Piotr
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > Hi,
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
> that
> > > >>done
> > > >> >> soon
> > > >> >> > > with less noise.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
> conflictive
> > > >> >> examples
> > > >> >> > to
> > > >> >> > > my own github account so people interested can access it.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Let me know in order to proceed.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > --
> > > >> >> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > > >> >>d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C63652736277815301
> > > >> >>0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Patreon:
> > > >> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > >> >>4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > > >> >>62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > > >> >>=0
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> %7C4d3f223be176
> > > >> >>4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > > >> >>62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > > >> >>=0>*
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > > >> >>d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> 7C63652736277815301
> > > >> >>0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> > yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >--
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Patreon:
> > > >> >*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > > >> >99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > > >>
> > > >>>78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> ><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > > >> >99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > > >> >78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > >Patreon:
> > > >*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > > >1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> > > >63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> > 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0
> > > ><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > 7Ce4548925f79c4e
> > > >1b450808d568014d12%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365292771
> > > >63883517&sdata=NG9jDCltN38HGy8xkj3NvCcxPz9Afu
> > > 24IQU8Zsf5TIw%3D&reserved=0>*
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>



-- 

Piotr Zarzycki

Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*

Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.INVALID>.

Anyone can copy the examples and publish them.  They just can't be part of
the Apache Royale release or an official piece of Apache Royale source
code.

If we want to spend energy on making them part of the next release, we
just have to bug VP Legal to get his attention.  I can see from other
mailing lists that he's been buried in some big discussions lately so he
may not have had time to spend on this.  All (or most) VP positions at the
ASF are staffed by volunteers, so you can't count on timely responses.

IMO, MDL is not the key to success for Royale so I am not choosing to
spend any time on it.  Bigger fish for me to fry.

My 2 cents,
-Alex

On 2/19/18, 6:52 AM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
<carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org> wrote:

>Hi Piotr
>
>my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can
>upload
>to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
>
>my 2cnt
>
>2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
>>
>> Thanks, Piotr
>>
>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>>
>> > I created 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fissues.a
>>pache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7
>>Cc8ac1bc57b864245b2c708d577a86cb5%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%
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>>n1Y%3D&reserved=0
>> >
>> > -Alex
>> >
>> > On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> > >I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will
>>try to
>> > >follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
>> > >started legal discussion ?
>> > >
>> > >Thanks, Piotr
>> > >
>> > >2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>> > >
>> > >> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
>> spend
>> > >> more time on this?
>> > >>
>> > >> -Alex
>> > >>
>> > >> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for
>>advice
>> in
>> > >> >case
>> > >> >of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira
>>with
>> > >>his
>> > >> >question ?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >[1]
>> > >> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
>> > >> >s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
>> > >> 928
>> > >> >c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> > >> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
>> > >> >5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Thanks, Piotr
>> > >> >
>> > >> >2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
>><ca...@apache.org>:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Hi Piotr,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible
>>but
>> > >> >>outside
>> > >> >> this project for two reasons:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
>>Royale
>> UI
>> > >>Set
>> > >> >> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
>> encourage
>> > >> >>us to
>> > >> >> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
>>continue
>> > >> >>working
>> > >> >> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
>>control
>> > >>(and
>> > >> >> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
>>nothing
>> > >>since
>> > >> >> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
>> doesn't
>> > >> >>get
>> > >> >> confused
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> thanks!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Carlos
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >><pi...@gmail.com>:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > Hi Carlos,
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I don't mind if you do this.
>> > >> >> > I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo
>>as I
>> > >> >>stated
>> > >> >> in
>> > >> >> > the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
>> allow I
>> > >> >>mean
>> > >> >> > the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
>> > >> >>example.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will
>>be
>> > >> >> finished.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Thanks, Piotr
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > >:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > > Hi,
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
>>that
>> > >>done
>> > >> >> soon
>> > >> >> > > with less noise.
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
>>conflictive
>> > >> >> examples
>> > >> >> > to
>> > >> >> > > my own github account so people interested can access it.
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > Let me know in order to proceed.
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > --
>> > >> >> > > Carlos Rovira
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > >> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > >> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
>> > >> >>d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> > >> 7C63652736277815301
>> > >> >>0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > --
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Patreon:
>> > >> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > >> %7C4d3f223be176
>> > >> >>4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
>> > >> >>62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>> > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>> > >> >>=0
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > >> %7C4d3f223be176
>> > >> >>4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
>> > >> >>62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>> > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
>> > >> >>=0>*
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> Carlos Rovira
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > >> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > >> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
>> > >> >>d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>> > >> 7C63652736277815301
>> > >> >>0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
>> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >--
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Patreon:
>> > >> >*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>> > >> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > >> 7C4d3f223be17641
>> > >> >99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
>> > >>
>> > >>>78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
>> > qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0
>> > >> ><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
>> > >> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > >> 7C4d3f223be17641
>> > >> >99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
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>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >--
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>> > >Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >
>> > >Patreon:
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>
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Re: About Royale MDL Examples

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.

Hi Piotr

my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can upload
to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.

my 2cnt

2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:

> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>
> > I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-363
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will try to
> > >follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
> > >started legal discussion ?
> > >
> > >Thanks, Piotr
> > >
> > >2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > >
> > >> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
> spend
> > >> more time on this?
> > >>
> > >> -Alex
> > >>
> > >> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for advice
> in
> > >> >case
> > >> >of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira with
> > >>his
> > >> >question ?
> > >> >
> > >> >[1]
> > >> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F
> > >> >s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643
> > >> 928
> > >> >c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms
> > >> >5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks, Piotr
> > >> >
> > >> >2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi Piotr,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible but
> > >> >>outside
> > >> >> this project for two reasons:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new Royale
> UI
> > >>Set
> > >> >> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
> encourage
> > >> >>us to
> > >> >> think that is more important to invest in our own set that continue
> > >> >>working
> > >> >> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't control
> > >>(and
> > >> >> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do nothing
> > >>since
> > >> >> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
> doesn't
> > >> >>get
> > >> >> confused
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
> > >> >>
> > >> >> thanks!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Carlos
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> > >><pi...@gmail.com>:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Hi Carlos,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I don't mind if you do this.
> > >> >> > I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo as I
> > >> >>stated
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> > the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
> allow I
> > >> >>mean
> > >> >> > the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
> > >> >>example.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will be
> > >> >> finished.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks, Piotr
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > Hi,
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get that
> > >>done
> > >> >> soon
> > >> >> > > with less noise.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both conflictive
> > >> >> examples
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > > my own github account so people interested can access it.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Let me know in order to proceed.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > --
> > >> >> > > Carlos Rovira
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > >> >>d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C63652736277815301
> > >> >>0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Patreon:
> > >> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7C4d3f223be176
> > >> >>4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > >> >>62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > >> >>=0
> > >> >> >
> > >> >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> %7C4d3f223be176
> > >> >>4199838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273
> > >> >>62778153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved
> > >> >>=0>*
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> >>
> > >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708
> > >> >>d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> 7C63652736277815301
> > >> >>0&sdata=YoEA9I6ecNlmY5bL4FW0h2G8d75IOH
> yR%2BJht2pf%2BSX8%3D&reserved=0
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >--
> > >> >
> > >> >Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> >
> > >> >Patreon:
> > >> >*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > >> >99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > >>
> > >>>78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
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> > >> ><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> 7C4d3f223be17641
> > >> >99838708d56643928c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365273627
> > >> >78153010&sdata=nn4DdbQaMWiA5NPeJt2IHEqSFGOcYJ
> > >> qWoSBelptFxCM%3D&reserved=0>*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > >Patreon:
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>
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