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[GitHub] [beam] TamirYardeni opened a new pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

TamirYardeni opened a new pull request #16366:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366


   Dynamically write to different Pubsub topics by adding the topic name to the Pubsub message.
   TopicProvider is still needed as a default topic in case the topic in the message is missing.
   With this, we'll be able to output data to new topics without restart the job. 
   
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[GitHub] [beam] TamirYardeni commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
TamirYardeni commented on pull request #16366:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1002044171


   Hi Daniel,
   Thank you, It is possible to run it on DataFlow using the flag 'enable_custom_pubsub_sink'.
   But I would like it to be added to PubsubIO (with the internal implementation).
   As suggested, I opened it for discussion in dev mailing list. 


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[GitHub] [beam] dpcollins-google commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
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URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1040565754


   I'd prefer to close this, I think this probably needs more design and discussion by the dataflow team to be mergable; the fact that it would not work out of the box without specifying an experiment would be very surprising to end users


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URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1040565754


   I'd prefer to close this, I think this probably needs more design and discussion by the dataflow team to be mergable; the fact that it would not work out of the box without specifying an experiment would be very surprising to end users


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[GitHub] [beam] chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1062201474


   (BTW not saying I'm against proceeding with this PR but wanted to clarify the status)


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[GitHub] [beam] aaltay commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1078542456


   /cc @naireen  


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[GitHub] [beam] kennknowles commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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kennknowles commented on pull request #16366:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1064301061


   By "not supported" we mean that we don't guarantee it and offer support, right? It will run but with behavior that may be less than ideal. Namely, potential duplicates in data under some reliability scenarios, and a less accurate watermark, right?


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[GitHub] [beam] chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366:
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   @TheNeuralBit are you interested in reviewing this ?


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[GitHub] [beam] chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366:
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   Yes. And also I don't think we have active integration/perf tests to verify the accuracy/performance of the Beam Pub/Sub connector on Dataflow.


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[GitHub] [beam] sachinag commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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sachinag commented on pull request #16366:
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   @chamikaramj what is the Beam team's perspective on this?


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[GitHub] [beam] dpcollins-google commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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dpcollins-google commented on pull request #16366:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1001875299


   Hi Tamir, 
   
   Thank you for your contribution to beam. Changes to PubsubIO like this will not properly work on dataflow jobs, as the dataflow runner replaces Pub/Sub reads and writes with an internal implementation.
   
   If you want to dynamically dispatch to Pub/Sub Topics for your own pipelines, you might be able to get this working in the shorter term by writing a relatively simple DoFn using the Pub/Sub java client library in your code that identifies the topic from an attribute and publishes to the correct topic.
   
   If this is a feature that you'd like to see added to PubsubIO, I'd suggest bringing it up on the dev mailing list, where you could coordinate and discuss this with the owners of the internal runner.
   
   -Daniel
   


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[GitHub] [beam] chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366:
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   R: @dpcollins-google @TheNeuralBit 


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[GitHub] [beam] chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366: [BEAM-13532] - Pubsub io dynamic topic

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chamikaramj commented on pull request #16366:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/16366#issuecomment-1062198173


   I think the main point here is that this feature will not be available to Dataflow by default since Dataflow overrides the Beam Pub/Sub I/O with a native connector. So additional work will need be to be done by the Dataflow team to fully enable this feature to all runners. I think vast majority of Beam Pub/Sub I/O users use Dataflow, hence if this PR is merged without additional Dataflow changes (or at least a timeline for such changes) many Beam Pub/Sub IO users will end up with a connector that is in an inconsistent state. 
   
   Also noting that Dataflow users can choose to use the Beam Pub/Sub I/O connector by using the experiment "enable_custom_pubsub_source" but this has known limitations for Dataflow and currently not supported by that runner.
   


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