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Posted to dev@lucenenet.apache.org by Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net> on 2011/03/01 06:19:27 UTC

Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

+1

Scott

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
>
> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are already
> > available on the Apache hudson server?
>
> builds@apache is the place to ask.
>
> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
> > available.
>
> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder by
> looking the console output.
>
> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for us,
> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc.. Not
> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
>
> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up for
> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer time
> helping administrate the Windows slave.
>
> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
>
> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in in
> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
> default.
>
> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377 thread.
>
> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
> discussions around the ASF.
>
> Stefan
>

Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

Posted by Michael Herndon <mh...@wickedsoftware.net>.
Last call for build tool suggestions. Jira goes in later tonight.

NCover has provided us a license.  NDepend is on hiatus (more on this
later).  MSBuild tasks and other tools that are opensource will go into the
project SCM.

We'll put in logic into the build scripts will attempt to detect the tools
and then fall back and not use them if they can not be found.

- Michael

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Herndon <mherndon@wickedsoftware.net
> wrote:

> Are there any other tools that anyone wishes to be installed on the
> windows / mono slaves?
>
> I'll put the jira for the tools to be installed in by wednesday. I'll
> be e-mailing for foss licenses for ndepend & ncover tomorrow.  And
> verify the fxcop license.
>
> Mono's Gendarme was also a good suggestion.
>
>
> - Michael
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Troy Howard <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've been following builds@ for the past couple of days. Looks like
> > they just finished the migration to Jenkins.
> >
> > Michael - Have you had a chance to contact them and find out what
> > tools are available out of our list? Want me to do that?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Troy
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net>
> wrote:
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are
> already
> >>> > available on the Apache hudson server?
> >>>
> >>> builds@apache is the place to ask.
> >>>
> >>> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
> >>> > available.
> >>>
> >>> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder
> by
> >>> looking the console output.
> >>>
> >>> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for us,
> >>> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc.. Not
> >>> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
> >>>
> >>> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up
> for
> >>> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer
> time
> >>> helping administrate the Windows slave.
> >>>
> >>> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
> >>>
> >>> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
> >>> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in in
> >>> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
> >>> default.
> >>>
> >>> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377 thread.
> >>>
> >>> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
> >>> discussions around the ASF.
> >>>
> >>> Stefan
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

Posted by Michael Herndon <mh...@wickedsoftware.net>.
Are there any other tools that anyone wishes to be installed on the
windows / mono slaves?

I'll put the jira for the tools to be installed in by wednesday. I'll
be e-mailing for foss licenses for ndepend & ncover tomorrow.  And
verify the fxcop license.

Mono's Gendarme was also a good suggestion.


- Michael


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Troy Howard <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been following builds@ for the past couple of days. Looks like
> they just finished the migration to Jenkins.
>
> Michael - Have you had a chance to contact them and find out what
> tools are available out of our list? Want me to do that?
>
> Thanks,
> Troy
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net> wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are already
>>> > available on the Apache hudson server?
>>>
>>> builds@apache is the place to ask.
>>>
>>> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
>>> > available.
>>>
>>> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder by
>>> looking the console output.
>>>
>>> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for us,
>>> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc.. Not
>>> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
>>>
>>> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up for
>>> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer time
>>> helping administrate the Windows slave.
>>>
>>> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
>>>
>>> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
>>> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in in
>>> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
>>> default.
>>>
>>> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377 thread.
>>>
>>> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
>>> discussions around the ASF.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

Posted by Michael Herndon <mh...@o19s.com>.
The licenses on some of the tools may not cover having them in svn.  If
there were free open source versions that allowed redistributing the
binaries of all the tools listed that did the job well, we could put them
into svn.

However as far as I know there isn't a pure .net open source tool chain for
some of the tools listed above.

Thus it needs to be put on the slave or accessible from the slave with the
limited licenses.

Also one would want to install hudson plugins that generate reports and
graphical information based on the xml documents generated during the build.
Then have hudson process them on initial load and display them on the
dashboard / build output.

- Michael


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Wyatt Barnett <wy...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'd ask if we need to install this stuff on hudson at all -- most of
> it is command line utilites that can be transported with the source in
> svn anyhow. Sidebar advantages here are it is much easier to debug the
> build scrips since you have no environmental dependencies and you've
> got all the toys in one download.
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Michael Herndon <mh...@o19s.com>
> wrote:
> > Sorry I've been just reading through the list & wiki (
> > http://wiki.apache.org/general/Hudson)
> >
> > I subscribed to the list last night and haven't received the usual
> message
> > for activating subscriptions, I'll try again today and get on the list to
> > see what is already on the windows slave.
> >
> > We also have to ask if others are interested in tools that not installed
> and
> > if not install them under home/username.
> >
> > -  michael.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Troy Howard <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been following builds@ for the past couple of days. Looks like
> >> they just finished the migration to Jenkins.
> >>
> >> Michael - Have you had a chance to contact them and find out what
> >> tools are available out of our list? Want me to do that?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Troy
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net>
> wrote:
> >> > +1
> >> >
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are
> already
> >> >> > available on the Apache hudson server?
> >> >>
> >> >> builds@apache is the place to ask.
> >> >>
> >> >> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
> >> >> > available.
> >> >>
> >> >> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder
> by
> >> >> looking the console output.
> >> >>
> >> >> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for
> us,
> >> >> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc..
> Not
> >> >> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
> >> >>
> >> >> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up
> for
> >> >> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer
> time
> >> >> helping administrate the Windows slave.
> >> >>
> >> >> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
> >> >>
> >> >> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
> >> >> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in
> in
> >> >> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
> >> >> default.
> >> >>
> >> >> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377
> thread.
> >> >>
> >> >> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
> >> >> discussions around the ASF.
> >> >>
> >> >> Stefan
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>



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Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

Posted by Wyatt Barnett <wy...@gmail.com>.
I'd ask if we need to install this stuff on hudson at all -- most of
it is command line utilites that can be transported with the source in
svn anyhow. Sidebar advantages here are it is much easier to debug the
build scrips since you have no environmental dependencies and you've
got all the toys in one download.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Michael Herndon <mh...@o19s.com> wrote:
> Sorry I've been just reading through the list & wiki (
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/Hudson)
>
> I subscribed to the list last night and haven't received the usual message
> for activating subscriptions, I'll try again today and get on the list to
> see what is already on the windows slave.
>
> We also have to ask if others are interested in tools that not installed and
> if not install them under home/username.
>
> -  michael.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Troy Howard <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been following builds@ for the past couple of days. Looks like
>> they just finished the migration to Jenkins.
>>
>> Michael - Have you had a chance to contact them and find out what
>> tools are available out of our list? Want me to do that?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Troy
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net> wrote:
>> > +1
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are already
>> >> > available on the Apache hudson server?
>> >>
>> >> builds@apache is the place to ask.
>> >>
>> >> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
>> >> > available.
>> >>
>> >> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder by
>> >> looking the console output.
>> >>
>> >> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for us,
>> >> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc.. Not
>> >> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
>> >>
>> >> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up for
>> >> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer time
>> >> helping administrate the Windows slave.
>> >>
>> >> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
>> >>
>> >> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
>> >> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in in
>> >> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
>> >> default.
>> >>
>> >> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377 thread.
>> >>
>> >> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
>> >> discussions around the ASF.
>> >>
>> >> Stefan
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

Posted by Michael Herndon <mh...@o19s.com>.
Sorry I've been just reading through the list & wiki (
http://wiki.apache.org/general/Hudson)

I subscribed to the list last night and haven't received the usual message
for activating subscriptions, I'll try again today and get on the list to
see what is already on the windows slave.

We also have to ask if others are interested in tools that not installed and
if not install them under home/username.

-  michael.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Troy Howard <th...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been following builds@ for the past couple of days. Looks like
> they just finished the migration to Jenkins.
>
> Michael - Have you had a chance to contact them and find out what
> tools are available out of our list? Want me to do that?
>
> Thanks,
> Troy
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net> wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
> >>
> >> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are already
> >> > available on the Apache hudson server?
> >>
> >> builds@apache is the place to ask.
> >>
> >> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
> >> > available.
> >>
> >> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder by
> >> looking the console output.
> >>
> >> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for us,
> >> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc.. Not
> >> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
> >>
> >> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up for
> >> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer time
> >> helping administrate the Windows slave.
> >>
> >> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
> >>
> >> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
> >> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in in
> >> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
> >> default.
> >>
> >> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377 thread.
> >>
> >> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
> >> discussions around the ASF.
> >>
> >> Stefan
> >>
> >
>

Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

Posted by Michael Herndon <mh...@o19s.com>.
response from build list:


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Michael Herndon
<mh...@wickedsoftware.net> wrote:
> Also does anyone know of the existing tools that maybe available on the
> windows slave such as:
> ncover,
> ndepend,
> fxcop,
> msbuild,
> versions of the .net framework
> etc.
> (If these does not already exist on the server, we would like to request
> licenses for opensource projects for both ncover & ndepend)

Sorry, our documentation for what we got installed on the different
slaves is not kept up to date :-/

Anyways, we got .Net 2.0, 3.5 and 4.0 installed on the Windows slave.
As for the other tools, please open JIRA issues and I'll take care of
them. Also, if you could assist in requesting the needed licenses,
that would be great.

> Which version of the OS is installed on the windows salve?

Windows Server Standard 2008, Service Pack 2.

> Would it be possible to also setup a mono build on a linux slave?

Yes. Requested additionally needed packages if needed








On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Troy Howard <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been following builds@ for the past couple of days. Looks like
> they just finished the migration to Jenkins.
>
> Michael - Have you had a chance to contact them and find out what
> tools are available out of our list? Want me to do that?
>
> Thanks,
> Troy
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net> wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are already
>>> > available on the Apache hudson server?
>>>
>>> builds@apache is the place to ask.
>>>
>>> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
>>> > available.
>>>
>>> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder by
>>> looking the console output.
>>>
>>> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for us,
>>> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc.. Not
>>> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
>>>
>>> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up for
>>> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer time
>>> helping administrate the Windows slave.
>>>
>>> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
>>>
>>> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
>>> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in in
>>> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
>>> default.
>>>
>>> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377 thread.
>>>
>>> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
>>> discussions around the ASF.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Lucene.Net] CI Task Update: Hudkins

Posted by Troy Howard <th...@gmail.com>.
I've been following builds@ for the past couple of days. Looks like
they just finished the migration to Jenkins.

Michael - Have you had a chance to contact them and find out what
tools are available out of our list? Want me to do that?

Thanks,
Troy

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Scott Lombard <sl...@theta.net> wrote:
> +1
>
> Scott
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2011-02-28, Troy Howard wrote:
>>
>> > One quick concern I have, is how much of the things listed are already
>> > available on the Apache hudson server?
>>
>> builds@apache is the place to ask.
>>
>> > A lot of this is .NET specific, so unlikely that it will already be
>> > available.
>>
>> well, the DotCMIS build seems to be using Sandcastle Helpfile Builder by
>> looking the console output.
>>
>> > We'll have to request that ASF Infra team install these tools for us,
>> > and they may not agree, or there might be licensing issues, etc.. Not
>> > sure. I'd start the conversation with them now to suss this out.
>>
>> Really, go to the builds list.  License issues usually don't show up for
>> build tools.  It may be good if anybody of the team could volunteer time
>> helping administrate the Windows slave.
>>
>> > - Mono is going to be a requirement moving forward
>>
>> This could be done on a non-Windows slave just to completely sure it
>> works.  This may require installing a newer Mono (or just pulling in in
>> a different Debian package source for Mono) than is installed by
>> default.
>>
>> > - Project structure was being discussed on the LUCENENET-377 thread.
>>
>> As a quick note, in general we prefer the mailing list of JIRA for
>> discussions around the ASF.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>