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Posted to user@jclouds.apache.org by Avi Ben-Harush <av...@gmail.com> on 2014/01/13 17:19:34 UTC

Openstack glance - incubation

Hi,

I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
there since nova.

I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it is
a basic functionality for any nova operation.

why is glance still in incubation?
when glance "production" is planned?

Thanks

-- 
Avi Ben-Harush

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Inbar Stolberg <in...@gmail.com>.
don't you think that if openstack glance (v1) will be in 1.7 it will
encourage more committers to push code ( even v2)?
I noticed that there where no commits to the openstack glance for almost a
year now...

  regards Inbar


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>wrote:

> [redirecting to dev@j.a.o...]
>
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
>> there since nova.
>>
>> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it
>> is
>> a basic functionality for any nova operation.
>>
>> why is glance still in incubation?
>> when glance "production" is planned?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Avi Ben-Harush
>>
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>.
[redirecting to dev@j.a.o...]

> Hi,
>
> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
> there since nova.
>
> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it is
> a basic functionality for any nova operation.
>
> why is glance still in incubation?
> when glance "production" is planned?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Avi Ben-Harush

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Inbar Stolberg <in...@gmail.com>.
I think its best to maintain them side by side so we can support multi
versions of openstack and keep backward support...
On Jan 14, 2014 7:08 PM, "Ignacio Mulas Viela" <im...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all!
> Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week or
> next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
>
> Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and package
> structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1 completely
> and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
>
> /Ignacio
>  On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
> wrote:
>
> > [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
> >
> > From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
> > jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
> > Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
> > To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
> >
> > Hi Avi,
> >
> > The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why
> > the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as
> the
> > v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds
> > proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
> >
> > The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do have
> > a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion
> > about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
> >
> > HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
> >
> > /jd
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
> > [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
> >
> >
> > From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
> > avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
> > Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
> > To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
> > there since nova.
> >
> > I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it
> > is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
> >
> > why is glance still in incubation?
> > when glance "production" is planned?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Avi Ben-Harush
> >
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Inbar Stolberg <in...@gmail.com>.
so any thoughts whether glance will enter 1.7 or not?
or to be more specific how long until glance will be moved out of
incubation and to what version?

:)




On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Everett Toews
<ev...@rackspace.com>wrote:

> +1
>
> Please don't hold off on contributions just because it's in a "labs" repo.
> We contribute a lot of code to jclouds-labs-openstack [1] too. And it's
> just as easy to get the labs JARs from Maven as it is the main project JARs.
>
> A project getting contributions could be a start to it getting out of
> labs. The other piece that really helps is having an abstraction for it in
> the main jclouds project.
>
> Frankly, I wasn't aware of anyone using openstack-glance in
> jclouds-labs-openstack. Knowing that you're using it makes a big
> difference. Perhaps with your contributions we could say it's production
> ready.
>
> Thanks,
> Everett
>
> [1] https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-labs-openstack
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>
> > You can submit your contributions regardless of where the project is. We
> > happily accept contributions in all repos! :)
> > El 14/01/2014 19:00, "Inbar Stolberg" <in...@gmail.com> escribió:
> >
> >> I agree with everet and i have a some contributions for v1 once it made
> its
> >> way to the main jclouds project...
> >> On Jan 14, 2014 7:55 PM, "Everett Toews" <ev...@rackspace.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't think there's any harm in keeping the v1 API around, apart from
> >>> the maintenance (of which there hasn't been any).
> >>>
> >>> The fact that the Image Service API v1 Reference is still linked to
> from
> >>> the OpenStack Docs [1] tells me that it's still in use and hasn't been
> >>> deprecated. As such we should still support it.
> >>>
> >>> When there are two versions, we should probably default to v2 to
> >> encourage
> >>> the use of the newer API but still make it trivially easy to switch to
> >> the
> >>> v1 API.
> >>>
> >>> Everett
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://docs.openstack.org/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jeremy Daggett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Ignacio,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is great news on the Glance v2 API!
> >>>>
> >>>> My preference would be to completely remove the v1 API (since it was
> >>> never
> >>>> promoted from the labs project) and just move forward with v2. I can't
> >>>> imagine that anyone is even using the v1 API at this point, but I
> could
> >>> be
> >>>> wrong...
> >>>>
> >>>> If others on the list can provide additional perspective here, it
> would
> >>> be
> >>>> greatly appreciated. Thx!
> >>>>
> >>>> /jd
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ignacio Mulas Viela <
> >>> immulasviela@gmail.com
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi all!
> >>>>> Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week
> >> or
> >>>>> next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and
> >> package
> >>>>> structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1
> >>> completely
> >>>>> and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /Ignacio
> >>>>> On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
> >>>>>> jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
> >>>>>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>"
> >> <
> >>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>>>>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
> >>>>>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> >>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Avi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is
> >> why
> >>>>>> the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon
> >> as
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the
> >> jclouds
> >>>>>> proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do
> >>> have
> >>>>>> a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related
> >> discussion
> >>>>>> about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /jd
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
> >>>>>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
> >>>>>> avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>"
> >> <
> >>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>>>>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
> >>>>>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> >>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>>>>> Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's
> >> been
> >>>>>> there since nova.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance
> since
> >>> it
> >>>>>> is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> why is glance still in incubation?
> >>>>>> when glance "production" is planned?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Avi Ben-Harush
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Everett Toews <ev...@RACKSPACE.COM>.
+1

Please don't hold off on contributions just because it's in a "labs" repo. We contribute a lot of code to jclouds-labs-openstack [1] too. And it's just as easy to get the labs JARs from Maven as it is the main project JARs.

A project getting contributions could be a start to it getting out of labs. The other piece that really helps is having an abstraction for it in the main jclouds project.

Frankly, I wasn't aware of anyone using openstack-glance in jclouds-labs-openstack. Knowing that you're using it makes a big difference. Perhaps with your contributions we could say it's production ready.

Thanks,
Everett

[1] https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-labs-openstack


On Jan 14, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Ignasi Barrera wrote:

> You can submit your contributions regardless of where the project is. We
> happily accept contributions in all repos! :)
> El 14/01/2014 19:00, "Inbar Stolberg" <in...@gmail.com> escribió:
> 
>> I agree with everet and i have a some contributions for v1 once it made its
>> way to the main jclouds project...
>> On Jan 14, 2014 7:55 PM, "Everett Toews" <ev...@rackspace.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't think there's any harm in keeping the v1 API around, apart from
>>> the maintenance (of which there hasn't been any).
>>> 
>>> The fact that the Image Service API v1 Reference is still linked to from
>>> the OpenStack Docs [1] tells me that it's still in use and hasn't been
>>> deprecated. As such we should still support it.
>>> 
>>> When there are two versions, we should probably default to v2 to
>> encourage
>>> the use of the newer API but still make it trivially easy to switch to
>> the
>>> v1 API.
>>> 
>>> Everett
>>> 
>>> [1] http://docs.openstack.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jeremy Daggett wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ignacio,
>>>> 
>>>> This is great news on the Glance v2 API!
>>>> 
>>>> My preference would be to completely remove the v1 API (since it was
>>> never
>>>> promoted from the labs project) and just move forward with v2. I can't
>>>> imagine that anyone is even using the v1 API at this point, but I could
>>> be
>>>> wrong...
>>>> 
>>>> If others on the list can provide additional perspective here, it would
>>> be
>>>> greatly appreciated. Thx!
>>>> 
>>>> /jd
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ignacio Mulas Viela <
>>> immulasviela@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>> Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week
>> or
>>>>> next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and
>> package
>>>>> structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1
>>> completely
>>>>> and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Ignacio
>>>>> On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
>>>>>> jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
>>>>>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>"
>> <
>>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>>>>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
>>>>>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
>>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Avi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is
>> why
>>>>>> the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon
>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>>> v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the
>> jclouds
>>>>>> proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do
>>> have
>>>>>> a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related
>> discussion
>>>>>> about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /jd
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
>>>>>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
>>>>>> avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>"
>> <
>>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>>>>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
>>>>>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
>>>>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>>>>> Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's
>> been
>>>>>> there since nova.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since
>>> it
>>>>>> is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> why is glance still in incubation?
>>>>>> when glance "production" is planned?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Avi Ben-Harush
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Ignasi Barrera <ig...@gmail.com>.
You can submit your contributions regardless of where the project is. We
happily accept contributions in all repos! :)
El 14/01/2014 19:00, "Inbar Stolberg" <in...@gmail.com> escribió:

> I agree with everet and i have a some contributions for v1 once it made its
> way to the main jclouds project...
> On Jan 14, 2014 7:55 PM, "Everett Toews" <ev...@rackspace.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I don't think there's any harm in keeping the v1 API around, apart from
> > the maintenance (of which there hasn't been any).
> >
> > The fact that the Image Service API v1 Reference is still linked to from
> > the OpenStack Docs [1] tells me that it's still in use and hasn't been
> > deprecated. As such we should still support it.
> >
> > When there are two versions, we should probably default to v2 to
> encourage
> > the use of the newer API but still make it trivially easy to switch to
> the
> > v1 API.
> >
> > Everett
> >
> > [1] http://docs.openstack.org/
> >
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jeremy Daggett wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ignacio,
> > >
> > > This is great news on the Glance v2 API!
> > >
> > > My preference would be to completely remove the v1 API (since it was
> > never
> > > promoted from the labs project) and just move forward with v2. I can't
> > > imagine that anyone is even using the v1 API at this point, but I could
> > be
> > > wrong...
> > >
> > > If others on the list can provide additional perspective here, it would
> > be
> > > greatly appreciated. Thx!
> > >
> > > /jd
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ignacio Mulas Viela <
> > immulasviela@gmail.com
> > >> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all!
> > >> Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week
> or
> > >> next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
> > >>
> > >> Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and
> package
> > >> structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1
> > completely
> > >> and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
> > >>
> > >> /Ignacio
> > >> On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
> > >>> jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
> > >>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>"
> <
> > >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > >>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
> > >>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > >>> Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Avi,
> > >>>
> > >>> The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is
> why
> > >>> the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon
> as
> > >> the
> > >>> v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the
> jclouds
> > >>> proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
> > >>>
> > >>> The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do
> > have
> > >>> a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related
> discussion
> > >>> about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
> > >>>
> > >>> HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
> > >>>
> > >>> /jd
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
> > >>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
> > >>> avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
> > >>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>"
> <
> > >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > >>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
> > >>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > >>> Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's
> been
> > >>> there since nova.
> > >>>
> > >>> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since
> > it
> > >>> is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
> > >>>
> > >>> why is glance still in incubation?
> > >>> when glance "production" is planned?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Avi Ben-Harush
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Inbar Stolberg <in...@gmail.com>.
I agree with everet and i have a some contributions for v1 once it made its
way to the main jclouds project...
On Jan 14, 2014 7:55 PM, "Everett Toews" <ev...@rackspace.com>
wrote:

> I don't think there's any harm in keeping the v1 API around, apart from
> the maintenance (of which there hasn't been any).
>
> The fact that the Image Service API v1 Reference is still linked to from
> the OpenStack Docs [1] tells me that it's still in use and hasn't been
> deprecated. As such we should still support it.
>
> When there are two versions, we should probably default to v2 to encourage
> the use of the newer API but still make it trivially easy to switch to the
> v1 API.
>
> Everett
>
> [1] http://docs.openstack.org/
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jeremy Daggett wrote:
>
> > Hi Ignacio,
> >
> > This is great news on the Glance v2 API!
> >
> > My preference would be to completely remove the v1 API (since it was
> never
> > promoted from the labs project) and just move forward with v2. I can't
> > imagine that anyone is even using the v1 API at this point, but I could
> be
> > wrong...
> >
> > If others on the list can provide additional perspective here, it would
> be
> > greatly appreciated. Thx!
> >
> > /jd
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ignacio Mulas Viela <
> immulasviela@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all!
> >> Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week or
> >> next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
> >>
> >> Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and package
> >> structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1
> completely
> >> and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
> >>
> >> /Ignacio
> >> On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
> >>>
> >>> From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
> >>> jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
> >>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
> >>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
> >>>
> >>> Hi Avi,
> >>>
> >>> The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why
> >>> the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as
> >> the
> >>> v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds
> >>> proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
> >>>
> >>> The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do
> have
> >>> a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion
> >>> about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
> >>>
> >>> HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
> >>>
> >>> /jd
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
> >>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
> >>> avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
> >>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
> >>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> >>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> >>> Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
> >>> there since nova.
> >>>
> >>> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since
> it
> >>> is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
> >>>
> >>> why is glance still in incubation?
> >>> when glance "production" is planned?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Avi Ben-Harush
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Everett Toews <ev...@RACKSPACE.COM>.
I don't think there's any harm in keeping the v1 API around, apart from the maintenance (of which there hasn't been any). 

The fact that the Image Service API v1 Reference is still linked to from the OpenStack Docs [1] tells me that it's still in use and hasn't been deprecated. As such we should still support it.

When there are two versions, we should probably default to v2 to encourage the use of the newer API but still make it trivially easy to switch to the v1 API.

Everett

[1] http://docs.openstack.org/


On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jeremy Daggett wrote:

> Hi Ignacio,
> 
> This is great news on the Glance v2 API!
> 
> My preference would be to completely remove the v1 API (since it was never
> promoted from the labs project) and just move forward with v2. I can't
> imagine that anyone is even using the v1 API at this point, but I could be
> wrong...
> 
> If others on the list can provide additional perspective here, it would be
> greatly appreciated. Thx!
> 
> /jd
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ignacio Mulas Viela <immulasviela@gmail.com
>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all!
>> Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week or
>> next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
>> 
>> Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and package
>> structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1 completely
>> and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
>> 
>> /Ignacio
>> On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
>>> 
>>> From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
>>> jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
>>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
>>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
>>> 
>>> Hi Avi,
>>> 
>>> The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why
>>> the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as
>> the
>>> v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds
>>> proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
>>> 
>>> The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do have
>>> a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion
>>> about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
>>> 
>>> HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
>>> 
>>> /jd
>>> 
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
>>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
>>> avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
>>> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
>>> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
>>> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
>>> Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
>>> there since nova.
>>> 
>>> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it
>>> is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
>>> 
>>> why is glance still in incubation?
>>> when glance "production" is planned?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Avi Ben-Harush
>>> 
>>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Inbar Stolberg <in...@gmail.com>.
Actually we in Alcatel are using them and will apritiate living them ...
On Jan 14, 2014 7:28 PM, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ignacio,
>
> This is great news on the Glance v2 API!
>
> My preference would be to completely remove the v1 API (since it was never
> promoted from the labs project) and just move forward with v2. I can't
> imagine that anyone is even using the v1 API at this point, but I could be
> wrong...
>
> If others on the list can provide additional perspective here, it would be
> greatly appreciated. Thx!
>
> /jd
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ignacio Mulas Viela <
> immulasviela@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> > Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week or
> > next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
> >
> > Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and package
> > structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1
> completely
> > and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
> >
> > /Ignacio
> >  On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
> > >
> > > From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
> > > jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
> > > Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > > Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
> > > To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > > Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
> > >
> > > Hi Avi,
> > >
> > > The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why
> > > the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as
> > the
> > > v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds
> > > proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
> > >
> > > The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do
> have
> > > a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion
> > > about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
> > >
> > > HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
> > >
> > > /jd
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
> > > [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
> > > avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
> > > Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > > Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
> > > To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > > Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
> > > there since nova.
> > >
> > > I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since
> it
> > > is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
> > >
> > > why is glance still in incubation?
> > > when glance "production" is planned?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Avi Ben-Harush
> > >
> >
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Jeremy Daggett <je...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ignacio,

This is great news on the Glance v2 API!

My preference would be to completely remove the v1 API (since it was never
promoted from the labs project) and just move forward with v2. I can't
imagine that anyone is even using the v1 API at this point, but I could be
wrong...

If others on the list can provide additional perspective here, it would be
greatly appreciated. Thx!

/jd


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ignacio Mulas Viela <immulasviela@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi all!
> Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week or
> next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)
>
> Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and package
> structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1 completely
> and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?
>
> /Ignacio
>  On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
> wrote:
>
> > [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
> >
> > From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
> > jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
> > Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
> > To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
> >
> > Hi Avi,
> >
> > The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why
> > the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as
> the
> > v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds
> > proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
> >
> > The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do have
> > a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion
> > about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
> >
> > HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
> >
> > /jd
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
> > [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
> >
> >
> > From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
> > avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
> > Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
> > To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> > user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> > Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
> > there since nova.
> >
> > I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it
> > is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
> >
> > why is glance still in incubation?
> > when glance "production" is planned?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Avi Ben-Harush
> >
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Ignacio Mulas Viela <im...@gmail.com>.
Hi all!
Hopefully, I will put for review some of the glance v2 API this week or
next at the most. Sorry for the delay here! :-)

Just a question here, do you want to maintain the v1 classes and package
structure and create aside the v2 version or should I remove v1 completely
and substitute it for the v2? Any guidelines to follow here?

/Ignacio
 On 14 Jan 2014 17:16, "Jeremy Daggett" <je...@rackspace.com>
wrote:

> [redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]
>
> From: Jeremy <jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com<mailto:
> jeremy.daggett@rackspace.com>>
> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation
>
> Hi Avi,
>
> The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why
> the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as the
> v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds
> proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.
>
> The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do have
> a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion
> about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.
>
> HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)
>
> /jd
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
> [2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s
>
>
> From: Avi Ben-Harush <avi.ben.harush@gmail.com<mailto:
> avi.ben.harush@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
> To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <
> user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>>
> Subject: Openstack glance - incubation
>
> Hi,
>
> I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been
> there since nova.
>
> I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it
> is a basic functionality for any nova operation.
>
> why is glance still in incubation?
> when glance "production" is planned?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Avi Ben-Harush
>

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Jeremy Daggett <je...@RACKSPACE.COM>.
[redirecting response to dev@j.a.o…]

From: Jeremy <je...@rackspace.com>>
Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <us...@jclouds.apache.org>>
Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM
To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <us...@jclouds.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Hi Avi,

The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as the v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.

The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do have a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.

HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)

/jd

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
[2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s


From: Avi Ben-Harush <av...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <us...@jclouds.apache.org>>
Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <us...@jclouds.apache.org>>
Subject: Openstack glance - incubation

Hi,

I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been there since nova.

I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it is a basic functionality for any nova operation.

why is glance still in incubation?
when glance "production" is planned?

Thanks

--
Avi Ben-Harush

Re: Openstack glance - incubation

Posted by Jeremy Daggett <je...@RACKSPACE.COM>.
Hi Avi,

The Glance v1 API is essentially irrelevant at this point, which is why the code is still in incubation in “jclouds-labs-openstack". As soon as the v2 API has been implemented and is promoted to the APIs in the jclouds proper repository (/apis) will it be considered “production” ready.

The intent is that the v2 API will be supported going forward. We do have a JIRA [1] for supporting this API, and there was a related discussion about this on the dev@ list [2] recently.

HTH, and we welcome patches! ;)

/jd

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-379
[2] http://markmail.org/message/sp6l72szns3nfe3s


From: Avi Ben-Harush <av...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <us...@jclouds.apache.org>>
Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
To: "user@jclouds.apache.org<ma...@jclouds.apache.org>" <us...@jclouds.apache.org>>
Subject: Openstack glance - incubation

Hi,

I've noticed that glance is still in incubation, even though it's been there since nova.

I expected that 1.7 release would include a "production" glance since it is a basic functionality for any nova operation.

why is glance still in incubation?
when glance "production" is planned?

Thanks

--
Avi Ben-Harush