Re: [sa-list] Re: Learing spam/ham with Pine

["Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <da...@prime.gushi.org>]

On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, John Hardin wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Pat Traynor wrote:
>
>> I've been running Spamassassin on my linux server for some time, and I
>> use Pine to read my mail.
>
> Hello, fellow fossil!

Aah, yonder fossils.  I've found, by the way, that if you're not using 
Alpine, you sure should be.  Better bits, and some cool new features.  I 
consider myself a pine power user.

So, things to know.

1) If you're using pine and not procmail, you're missing out.  Learn it, 
live it, love it.

2) While John's methods for learning and reporting spam work, I've found 
that the best way to do it is per-message within spamassassin, via 
spamd/spamc.  The "pipe" command returns MUCH faster in this config.

(Make no mistake, there's nothing wrong with periodically feeding your 
spam and ham folders to bayes as well, but I have a personal policy of 
"report what gets through the filters to improve the system".

3) While you're at it, if you're using spamc/spamd, take whatever account 
they're registered under, and tie them to DCC/Pyzor/Razor -- if you're 
reporting, you might as well get the most bang for your buck.  If you're 
not using them, then register yourself a Pyzor/Razor/DCC account.  It's 
quick and easy.

Anyway, you'll need to go into your pine options and turn on the 
following:

* Enable Aggregate Command Set (this allows you to select and act on 
multiple messages at once)
* Enable unix pipe command

>From there, you can simply take any message (or any group of messages) and 
press "|" to start a pipe, and set the following options:

* Raw Message
* Uncaptured output
* If working with multiple messages, set the "new pipe" option so each 
message gets fed to a separate copy of the command, and for the command 
itself, I put:

/usr/local/bin/spamc -d quark.gushi.org --reporttype=report

or

/usr/local/bin/spamassassin --report

If you want to correct a false positive, chance --"report" to "revoke"

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Re: [sa-list] Re: Learing spam/ham with Pine

[John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>]

On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:

> 2) While John's methods for learning and reporting spam work, I've found that 
> the best way to do it is per-message within spamassassin, via spamd/spamc. 
> The "pipe" command returns MUCH faster in this config.

Interactively moving the messages to a training folder and learning 
from that folder asynchronously returns even faster.

Or am I misinterpreting what you're suggesting?

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