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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@apache.org> on 2013/02/15 00:16:42 UTC
Mustella on Amazon EC2
Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free per
month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started downloading
the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a daily
run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day. I
hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23 hours.
If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup with
their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to pay
for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you all
updated how this little experiment goes.
Regards,
Om
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
Would this be useful at all?
http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Tinderbox
On Feb 19, 2013 7:33 PM, "Vatsala Dorairajan" <va...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have you guys tried out Travis - https://travis-ci.org - Apparently now
> they support running builds on Mac, windows - See the latest (a month ago)
> comment by joshk on this thread https://github.com/travis-ci/**
> travis-ci/issues/216 <https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/216>
>
> Disclaimer - I have no prior experience with using travis, but some open
> source projects I know use travis for their CI requirements, just trying to
> help.
> my 2 cents
> Vatsala
> On Tuesday 19 February 2013 10:09 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
>> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
>> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
>> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
>> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
>> could be quite a bit..
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From [1]:
>>>
>>> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
>>> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
>>> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>>> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>>> take something like $1500.
>>>
>>> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>>> transfer, access)?
>>>
>>> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>>> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>>
>>> EdB
>>>
>>> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>>>> powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
>>>> donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
>>>> and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>>>
>>>> EdB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>>> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well I spoke with
>>>>> Toan Nguyen
>>>>> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>>>> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
>>>>>
>>>> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>>
>>>> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
>>>>>
>>>> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
>>> around
>>> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
>>> what
>>> he told me).
>>>
>>>> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>>> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
>>>>>
>>>> response?
>>>
>>>> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
>>>>>
>>>> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
>>> Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>>>
>>>> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and
>>>>>>
>>>>> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
>>> offer.
>>> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>>
>>>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
>>> entire test suite.
>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>
>>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an open
>>>
>>>> source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
>>>>>>>> projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on how
>>>
>>>> we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>>>>>>> justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as
>>>
>>>> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a test
>>>
>>>> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> everything
>>>
>>>> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bigger) ...
>>>
>>>> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what they
>>>
>>>> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tests only
>>>
>>>> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>
>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>
>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>
>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>
>>> T. 06-51952295
>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Vatsala Dorairajan <va...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Have you guys tried out Travis - https://travis-ci.org - Apparently now
they support running builds on Mac, windows - See the latest (a month
ago) comment by joshk on this thread
https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/216
Disclaimer - I have no prior experience with using travis, but some open
source projects I know use travis for their CI requirements, just trying
to help.
my 2 cents
Vatsala
On Tuesday 19 February 2013 10:09 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
> could be quite a bit..
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
>> From [1]:
>>
>> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
>> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
>> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>> take something like $1500.
>>
>> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>> transfer, access)?
>>
>> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>
>> EdB
>>
>> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>> Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>>> powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
>>> donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
>>> and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>>
>>> EdB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>>> Well I spoke with
>>>> Toan Nguyen
>>>> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>>> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
>> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>>> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
>> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go around
>> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what
>> he told me).
>>>> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>
>>>> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
>> response?
>>>> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
>> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
>> Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>>>> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and
>> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer.
>> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>>>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
>> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
>> entire test suite.
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking
>> :-)
>>>>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Om
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
>> an open
>>>>>>> source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
>>>>>>> projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide
>> on how
>>>>>>> we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>>>>>> justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this,
>> as
>>>>>>>> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as
>> a test
>>>>>>>> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
>> everything
>>>>>>>> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>> bigger) ...
>>>>>>>> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
>> what they
>>>>>>>> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
>> tests only
>>>>>>>> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>
>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>
>>> T. 06-51952295
>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>
>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>
>> T. 06-51952295
>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>
AW: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
>From my experience, you need at least a medium sized windows instance.
If you have a look at http://aws.amazon.com/de/ec2/pricing/ you could estimate the costs, but from my experience the monthly bill is a lot higher than you would anticipate. Currently I have the one node running for about 10 Hours per month (I configured Teamcity Agent to shutdown the instance after idling for 10 munites and I manually trigger the builds every few days). My bill is at about 23$/Month which relates to 355 hours (14 days) of up-time according to the price list. I guess there might be more factors making up the price of a node. Unfortunately I don't actually know how the final bill is actually calculated (They don't show it on the bill). So I would be carefull to volunteer of paying the bill as this might be a lot higher than you anticipate.
Chris
________________________________________
Von: Erik de Bruin [erik@ixsoftware.nl]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 16:46
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
EdB
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Well I spoke with
> Toan Nguyen
> Enterprise Sales Manager
>
> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>
> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go around giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what he told me).
> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned response?
>
> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>
> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>
>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer. Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>
>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk. Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the entire test suite.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
>>>
>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>
>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an open
>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide on how
>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>> >
>>> > Chris
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test
>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything
>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>> >>
>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ...
>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they
>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only
>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>> >>
>>> >> Justin
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>
--
Ix Multimedia Software
Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht
T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Well I think it would be important to have the ci on a server that's
accessible by others. The agents however could be on idle desktops.
currently i don't quite know if only the agents need to connect to the
server, out if the server also needs a direct connection to the agent
(this would be a killer).
I do have a public Teamcity on my server that's got nothing to do. The
problem would be, that I would need licenses for more agents :-(
Chris
Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com
Am 19. Februar 2013 19:25:31 schrieb Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>:
> The point of my link wasn't the ci system but rather the slave builders
> which can just be random Pcs in the idle process. (I think)
> On Feb 19, 2013 8:18 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
> > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually Jetbrains
> > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
> > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >
> >
> > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
> >
> >> It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
> >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
> >>
> >> -Fred
> >>
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
> >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >>
> >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
> >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
> >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
> >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
> >> could be quite a bit..
> >>
> >> -Nick
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From [1]:
> >> >
> >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
> >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
> >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> >> > take something like $1500.
> >> >
> >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> >> > transfer, access)?
> >> >
> >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> > 1:
> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
> >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
> >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> >> > >
> >> > > EdB
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >> > >> Well I spoke with
> >> > >> Toan Nguyen
> >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
> >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
> >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
> >> > around
> >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
> >> what
> >> > he told me).
> >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Chris
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ______________________________**__________
> >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
> >> > response?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
> >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
> >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them
> >> and
> >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
> >> offer.
> >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
> >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
> >> > entire test suite.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Chris
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>>> Chris,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
> >> asking
> >> > :-)
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>> Om
> >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> >> > >>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
> >> > an open
> >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
> >> > >>>> > the
> >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
> >> decide
> >> > on how
> >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Chris
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >> Hi,
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
> >> this,
> >> > as
> >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it
> >> as
> >> > a test
> >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> >> > everything
> >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> >> > bigger) ...
> >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
> >> > what they
> >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
> >> > tests only
> >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Justin
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> > >
> >> > > T. 06-51952295
> >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >> >
> >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> >
> >> > T. 06-51952295
> >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
The point of my link wasn't the ci system but rather the slave builders
which can just be random Pcs in the idle process. (I think)
On Feb 19, 2013 8:18 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
> Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually Jetbrains
> could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
> nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>
>> It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
>> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>
>> -Fred
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>
>> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
>> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
>> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
>> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
>> could be quite a bit..
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From [1]:
>> >
>> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
>> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
>> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>> > take something like $1500.
>> >
>> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>> > transfer, access)?
>> >
>> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>> wrote:
>> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
>> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
>> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>> > >
>> > > EdB
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>> > >> Well I spoke with
>> > >> Toan Nguyen
>> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
>> > >>
>> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
>> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>> > >>
>> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
>> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
>> > around
>> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
>> what
>> > he told me).
>> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>> > >>
>> > >> Chris
>> > >>
>> > >> ______________________________**__________
>> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > >>
>> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
>> > response?
>> > >>
>> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
>> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
>> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>> > >>
>> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>> > >>
>> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them
>> and
>> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
>> offer.
>> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
>> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
>> > entire test suite.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Chris
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>> Chris,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
>> asking
>> > :-)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>> Om
>> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
>> > an open
>> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
>> > >>>> > the
>> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
>> decide
>> > on how
>> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Chris
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >> Hi,
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
>> this,
>> > as
>> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it
>> as
>> > a test
>> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
>> > everything
>> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>> > bigger) ...
>> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
>> > what they
>> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
>> > tests only
>> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> Justin
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>> > >
>> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> > >
>> > > T. 06-51952295
>> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ix Multimedia Software
>> >
>> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> >
>> > T. 06-51952295
>> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Harbs <ga...@gmail.com>.
An EC2 instance is a much better deal than that, but Carlos' offer sounds like the best option so far…
On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Clint Modien wrote:
> This sounds like a good case for dedicated hosting.
>
> Basically it's just renting a server at a data center.
>
> Here's an example list (scroll down)
>
> http://iweb.com/classic-server-hosting/overview
>
> The second option comes to $150/month. (+$25 for windows)
>
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>> Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it is
>> a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
>> weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>>
>> We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have to
>> be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere. One
>> could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
>> and run the tests. I
>>
>> In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
>> with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group know
>> when things break, that would be a good start.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
>>> Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually Jetbrains
>>> could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>>> pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
>>> nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>>> webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>> It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
>>>> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>>>
>>>> -Fred
>>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>
>>>> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
>>>> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
>>>> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
>>>> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
>>>> could be quite a bit..
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From [1]:
>>>>>
>>>>> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
>>>>> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
>>>>> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>>>>> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>>>>> take something like $1500.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>>>>> transfer, access)?
>>>>>
>>>>> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>>>>> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>>>>
>>>>> EdB
>>>>>
>>>>> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>>>>>> powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
>>>>>> donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
>>>>>> and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>>>>> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> Well I spoke with
>>>>>>> Toan Nguyen
>>>>>>> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>>>>>> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
>>>>> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
>>>>> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
>>>>> around
>>>>> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
>>>> what
>>>>> he told me).
>>>>>>> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>>>>> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>>>>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
>>>>> response?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
>>>>> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
>>>>> Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them
>>>> and
>>>>> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
>>>> offer.
>>>>> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
>>>>> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
>>>>> entire test suite.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
>>>> asking
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>>>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
>>>>> an open
>>>>>>>>>> source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
>>>> decide
>>>>> on how
>>>>>>>>>> we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>>>>>>>>> justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
>>>> this,
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it
>>>> as
>>>>> a test
>>>>>>>>>>> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>>>>> bigger) ...
>>>>>>>>>>> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
>>>>> what they
>>>>>>>>>>> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
>>>>> tests only
>>>>>>>>>>> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>>
>>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>
>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Clint Modien <cm...@gmail.com>.
This sounds like a good case for dedicated hosting.
Basically it's just renting a server at a data center.
Here's an example list (scroll down)
http://iweb.com/classic-server-hosting/overview
The second option comes to $150/month. (+$25 for windows)
On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
> Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it is
> a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
> weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>
> We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have to
> be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere. One
> could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
> and run the tests. I
>
> In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
> with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group know
> when things break, that would be a good start.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>> wrote:
>
>> Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
>> Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually Jetbrains
>> could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>> pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
>> nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>> webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>>
>> It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
>>> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>>
>>> -Fred
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>
>>> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
>>> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
>>> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
>>> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
>>> could be quite a bit..
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From [1]:
>>>>
>>>> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
>>>> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
>>>> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>>>> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>>>> take something like $1500.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>>>> transfer, access)?
>>>>
>>>> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>>>> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>>>
>>>> EdB
>>>>
>>>> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>>>>> powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
>>>>> donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
>>>>> and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>>>>
>>>>> EdB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>>>> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Well I spoke with
>>>>>> Toan Nguyen
>>>>>> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>>>>> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
>>>> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
>>>> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
>>>> around
>>>> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
>>> what
>>>> he told me).
>>>>>> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>>>> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>>>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
>>>> response?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
>>>> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
>>>> Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them
>>> and
>>>> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
>>> offer.
>>>> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
>>>> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
>>>> entire test suite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
>>> asking
>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
>>>> an open
>>>>>>>>> source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
>>> decide
>>>> on how
>>>>>>>>> we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>>>>>>>> justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
>>> this,
>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it
>>> as
>>>> a test
>>>>>>>>>> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>>>> bigger) ...
>>>>>>>>>> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
>>>> what they
>>>>>>>>>> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
>>>> tests only
>>>>>>>>>> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>
>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>
>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>
>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2/19/13 11:47 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >>>> Mustella first compiles right? I don't think that is possible on Linux
> >>>> because is absent of Pixel Bender for Linux.
> >
> > Looks like they are but they could be precompile I guess?
> Could just skip that folder.
>
>
Doesnt that defeat the purpose of testing? Moreover where would you store
the pre-compiled pbj files? Certainly not in SVN.
Om
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 2/19/13 11:47 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>>> Mustella first compiles right? I don't think that is possible on Linux
>>>> because is absent of Pixel Bender for Linux.
>
> Looks like they are but they could be precompile I guess?
Could just skip that folder.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
>>> Mustella first compiles right? I don't think that is possible on Linux
>>> because is absent of Pixel Bender for Linux.
Looks like they are but they could be precompile I guess?
Justin
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 19, 2013 11:26 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Mustella first compiles right? I don't think that is possible on Linux
> > because is absent of Pixel Bender for Linux.
>
> You must of missed my other email, looks like the mxml and compc
compilers from the binary distribution work fine on Linux.
>
> Justin
I did read your email. My question is: aren't there any pbj files that
need to be compiled as part of the Mustella run?
Om
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Mustella first compiles right? I don't think that is possible on Linux
> because is absent of Pixel Bender for Linux.
You must of missed my other email, looks like the mxml and compc compilers from the binary distribution work fine on Linux.
Justin
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 19, 2013 10:39 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> > You are welcome to pursue that angle. I'm not sure Infra has anything
other than unix boxes.
> And perhaps it's not much work to make mustella run on linux? Any issues
that you know of Alex? There's a fair number of existing linux CI machines
already set up.
>
> Justin
Mustella first compiles right? I don't think that is possible on Linux
because is absent of Pixel Bender for Linux.
Om
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 2/19/13 10:38 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> HI,
>
>> You are welcome to pursue that angle. I'm not sure Infra has anything other
>> than unix boxes.
> And perhaps it's not much work to make mustella run on linux? Any issues that
> you know of Alex? There's a fair number of existing linux CI machines already
> set up.
One of our compiler developers used to use Linux all of the time. I don't
recall him saying he couldn't run mustella on it, and I recall working
through some issues in the early days.
I believe the only reason we are not supporting source builds on Linux
because of the PixelBender compiler issues. I'm not sure we should break
parity with Adobe Flex and remove these shaders. If you want to get fancy
and pull shaders from a binary distro, that might work given we probably
won't be changing shaders very often.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
HI,
> You are welcome to pursue that angle. I'm not sure Infra has anything other than unix boxes.
And perhaps it's not much work to make mustella run on linux? Any issues that you know of Alex? There's a fair number of existing linux CI machines already set up.
Justin
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 2/19/13 12:27 PM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" <ni...@spoon.as> wrote:
> Again, have we asked INFRA to just setup a separate box for us? I don't
> remember seeing anything on their list where we did.
You are welcome to pursue that angle. I'm not sure Infra has anything other
than unix boxes. Frankly, I've been thinking of buying a computer with an
SSD and see how long it takes mustella to run on it. I suppose I could
install Jenkins on it too. Anybody have a good suggestion of a recommended
setup for <$1K?
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
Again, have we asked INFRA to just setup a separate box for us? I don't
remember seeing anything on their list where we did.
-Nick
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
> Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it is
> a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
> weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>
> We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have to
> be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere. One
> could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
> and run the tests. I
>
> In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
> with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group know
> when things break, that would be a good start.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > wrote:
>
> > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
> > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually Jetbrains
> > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
> > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >
> >
> > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
> >
> > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
> >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
> >>
> >> -Fred
> >>
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
> >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >>
> >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
> >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
> >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
> >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
> >> could be quite a bit..
> >>
> >> -Nick
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From [1]:
> >> >
> >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
> >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
> >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> >> > take something like $1500.
> >> >
> >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> >> > transfer, access)?
> >> >
> >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing
> to
> >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
> >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> >> > >
> >> > > EdB
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >> > >> Well I spoke with
> >> > >> Toan Nguyen
> >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the
> one
> >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
> Medium
> >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
> >> > around
> >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
> >> what
> >> > he told me).
> >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Chris
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ______________________________**__________
> >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
> canned
> >> > response?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
> different. I
> >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
> Apache
> >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real
> pull…
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them
> >> and
> >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
> >> offer.
> >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
> trunk.
> >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
> >> > entire test suite.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Chris
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>>> Chris,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
> >> asking
> >> > :-)
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>> Om
> >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> >> > >>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing
> about
> >> > an open
> >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
> build
> >> > >>>> > the
> >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
> >> decide
> >> > on how
> >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Chris
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >> Hi,
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
> >> this,
> >> > as
> >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using
> it
> >> as
> >> > a test
> >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> >> > everything
> >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> >> > bigger) ...
> >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
> >> > what they
> >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
> >> > tests only
> >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or
> OSX).
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Justin
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> > >
> >> > > T. 06-51952295
> >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >> >
> >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> >
> >> > T. 06-51952295
> >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
I was just planning to install Jenkins [1], set up a CI job that runs the
Mustella mini_run script [2] every night.
Once you have the tests running smoothly for a few days, you could hook it
up to send an email to dev@flex.apache.org when the build fails.
[1] http://jenkins-ci.org/
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Mustella+Overview
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci server? It
> has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
> On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
> > Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it
> is
> > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
> > weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
> >
> > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have
> to
> > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere.
> One
> > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
> > and run the tests. I
> >
> > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
> > with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group
> know
> > when things break, that would be a good start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
> > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
> Jetbrains
> > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
> > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> > > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
> > >
> > > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
> > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
> > >>
> > >> -Fred
> > >>
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
> > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > >>
> > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
> > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some
> of
> > >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and
> how
> > >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night,
> that
> > >> could be quite a bit..
> > >>
> > >> -Nick
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > From [1]:
> > >> >
> > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
> contract
> > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we
> run
> > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> > >> > take something like $1500.
> > >> >
> > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> > >> > transfer, access)?
> > >> >
> > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
> > >> >
> > >> > EdB
> > >> >
> > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
> > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing
> > to
> > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
> happen,
> > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > EdB
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> > >> > >> Well I spoke with
> > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
> > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the
> > one
> > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
> > Medium
> > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
> > >> > around
> > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence
> of
> > >> what
> > >> > he told me).
> > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Chris
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
> > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
> > canned
> > >> > response?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
> > different. I
> > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
> > Apache
> > >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real
> > pull…
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
> them
> > >> and
> > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
> > >> offer.
> > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
> > trunk.
> > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining
> the
> > >> > entire test suite.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Chris
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> > >> > >>>> Chris,
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
> > >> asking
> > >> > :-)
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >> > >>>> Om
> > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> > >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing
> > about
> > >> > an open
> > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
> > build
> > >> > >>>> > the
> > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
> > >> decide
> > >> > on how
> > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Chris
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> > >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
> > >> this,
> > >> > as
> > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using
> > it
> > >> as
> > >> > a test
> > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to
> keep
> > >> > everything
> > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> > >> > bigger) ...
> > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from
> them
> > >> > what they
> > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and
> the
> > >> > tests only
> > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or
> > OSX).
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> Justin
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >> > >
> > >> > > T. 06-51952295
> > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >> >
> > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >> >
> > >> > T. 06-51952295
> > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 20, 2013 12:00 AM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > The people currently administrating our Jenkins instance on the Apache
> > servers should be able to help you set this up. Chris, Om, Justin,
> > what do you say?
> Sure should be able to help out but my time is little limited at the
moment. Probably only a dozen email to the list a day from me :-)
>
> Justin
I am definitely interested in this offer. Let me catch up on my sleep and
get back with more specific details in the morning :-)
Om
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> The people currently administrating our Jenkins instance on the Apache
> servers should be able to help you set this up. Chris, Om, Justin,
> what do you say?
Sure should be able to help out but my time is little limited at the moment. Probably only a dozen email to the list a day from me :-)
Justin
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Carlos,
> and see how well it does, before we set up the whole CI system? -> what
> would you need, can you be more specific?
I am only acting as an intermediary. I didn't see anyone picking up on
your offer, so I thought I'd draw some attention to it.
The people currently administrating our Jenkins instance on the Apache
servers should be able to help you set this up. Chris, Om, Justin,
what do you say?
EdB
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Jan Luykenstraat 27
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T. 06-51952295
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RE: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Carlos Cruz <ca...@nbtbizcapital.com>.
Hi EdB;
Right now all my servers are linux CentOS 5.8. If you need windows I have
some unused MS Win 2008 servers licenses I can install.
please read my in line comments to your questions.
Carlos
What a generous offer, thank you! -> I have quite a bit invested in a Flex
app so I'm very interested in Flex staying alive and well, since I'm still
expanding the app. I was actually thinking of asking the user community if
there was any interested in using one of the servers to host some sort of
Flex Application/Services Directory since many of these projects seem to be
dying on the vine, but I've been a bit unsure about asking... so if I can
help I'm glad.
2 questions:
- would (one of) these machines be accessible by others - the current
Jenkins admins - from the outside? -> I can provide you with an IP from a
pfSense firewall and you'll have full access to the server
- would you be willing to do a test run of Mustella on "the best one"
and see how well it does, before we set up the whole CI system? -> what
would you need, can you be more specific?
-----Original Message-----
From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:erik@ixsoftware.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:30 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Carlos,
What a generous offer, thank you!
2 questions:
- would (one of) these machines be accessible by others - the current
Jenkins admins - from the outside?
- would you be willing to do a test run of Mustella on "the best one"
and see how well it does, before we set up the whole CI system?
Thanks again,
EdB
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Carlos Cruz <ca...@nbtbizcapital.com>
wrote:
> Although I'm still not using Apache Flex, I'm still stuck on Adobe's
> Flex/FB 4.6, I do have a keen interest in Flex succeeding, at a data
> center in Montreal I have the following I could spare no problem:
> 5 x Dell 2650
> 3 x Dell 2850
>
> and I could be persuaded to make 1 Dell 1950 or a 2950 available.
>
> I could be quite tolerant of traffic and I could spare one static IP.
>
> Let me know
> Carlos
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Om
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:56 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Just keep in mind that Jenkins runs as a server and could use the same
port
> (80) that Mustella's server runs by default. To avoid this problem, make
> sure that you use a different port for Mustella.
>
> Also, it would be best if you run a full run of Mustella from the
> command line at least once before attempting to run it from Jenkins.
> Would make your life easier :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is the config xml for local checkin_tests job that I set up on
>> my machine [1]. You will need to modify it to run Mustella. If you
>> could do that and share the Jenkins config xml with the group, that
>> would
> be great!
>>
>> [1] http://pastebin.com/ydDWRwR9
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM, JP Bader <jp...@zavteq.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if
>>> anyone can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can
>>> boot up a win box and make a CI happen as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci
>>> server? It
>>> > has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
>>> > On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>>> > > Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover,
>>> > > since
>>> it
>>> > is
>>> > > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it
>>> > > takes weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>>> > >
>>> > > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does
>>> > > not
>>> have
>>> > to
>>> > > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer
> somewhere.
>>> > One
>>> > > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull
>>> > > every
>>> night
>>> > > and run the tests. I
>>> > >
>>> > > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started
>>> > > toying
>>> around
>>> > > with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the
>>> > > group
>>> > know
>>> > > when things break, that would be a good start.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Om
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
>>> > > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server
>>> > > > for
>>> that.
>>> > > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that
>>> > > > eventually
>>> > Jetbrains
>>> > > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>>> > > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was
>>> > > > just for
>>> the
>>> > > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Chris
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>>> > > > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move
>>> > > > on
>>> git, as
>>> > > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Fred
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> > > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>>> > > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and
>>> bandwidth.
>>> > > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more,
>>> > > >> in
>>> some
>>> > of
>>> > > >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are
>>> > > >> sending,
> and
>>> > how
>>> > > >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each
> night,
>>> > that
>>> > > >> could be quite a bit..
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Nick
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <
>>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> > From [1]:
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3
>>> > > >> > year
>>> > contract
>>> > > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per
>>> > > >> > hour. If
>>> we
>>> > run
>>> > > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here),
>>> > > >> > that
>>> would
>>> > > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3
>>> > > >> > years
>>> would
>>> > > >> > take something like $1500.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding
>>> > > >> > (data transfer, access)?
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be
>>> > > >> > able to
>>> get
>>> > > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > EdB
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
>>> > > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <
>>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a
> sufficiently
>>> > > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would
>>> > > >> > > be
>>> willing
>>> > > to
>>> > > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see
>>> > > >> > > this
>>> > happen,
>>> > > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > EdB
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM,
>>> > > >> > > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> Well I spoke with
>>> > > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
>>> > > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>> > > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site.
>>> > > >> > >> He was
>>> the
>>> > > one
>>> > > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to
>>> > > >> > >> provide
>>> > > Medium
>>> > > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon
>>> couldn't go
>>> > > >> > around
>>> > > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the
>>> essence
>>> > of
>>> > > >> what
>>> > > >> > he told me).
>>> > > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Chris
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
>>> > > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>>> > > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>> > > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it
>>> > > >> > >> just
> a
>>> > > canned
>>> > > >> > response?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
>>> > > different. I
>>> > > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some
>>> > > >> > resources
> to
>>> > > Apache
>>> > > >> > Flex
Anyone have a contact there?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have
>>> > > >> > >> any
>>> real
>>> > > pull
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just
>>> > > >> > >>> tasked to
>>> > them
>>> > > >> and
>>> > > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1
>>> > > >> > year
>>> free
>>> > > >> offer.
>>> > > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized
>>> instances.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a
>>> > > >> > >>> stable
>>> > > trunk.
>>> > > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not
> ruining
>>> > the
>>> > > >> > entire test suite.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Chris
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> > > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <
>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>>> > > >> > >>>> Chris,
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them
>>> > > >> > >>>> and
>>> just
>>> > > >> asking
>>> > > >> > :-)
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Thanks,
>>> > > >> > >>>> Om
>>> > > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>> > > >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The
>>> > > >> > >>>> > good
>>> thing
>>> > > about
>>> > > >> > an open
>>> > > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a
>>> > > >> > >>>> > ci-server
> and
>>> > > build
>>> > > >> > >>>> > the
>>> > > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We
>>> > > >> > >>>> > can
>>> always
>>> > > >> decide
>>> > > >> > on how
>>> > > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about
>>> > > >> > >>>> > :-)
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Chris
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> > > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>> > > >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> impact
>>> on
>>> > > >> this,
>>> > > >> > as
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> just
>>> using
>>> > > it
>>> > > >> as
>>> > > >> > a test
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> like
> to
>>> > keep
>>> > > >> > everything
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> > machine
>>> (or
>>> > > >> > bigger) ...
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> get
> from
>>> > them
>>> > > >> > what they
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> OSX)
>>> and
>>> > the
>>> > > >> > tests only
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> windows
>>> (or
>>> > > OSX).
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Justin
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > --
>>> > > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> > > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > T. 06-51952295
>>> > > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > --
>>> > > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> > > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > T. 06-51952295
>>> > > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JP Bader
>>> Principal
>>> Zavteq, Inc.
>>> @lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
>>> 608.692.2468
>>>
>>
>>
>
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T. 06-51952295
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Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Carlos,
What a generous offer, thank you!
2 questions:
- would (one of) these machines be accessible by others - the current
Jenkins admins - from the outside?
- would you be willing to do a test run of Mustella on "the best one"
and see how well it does, before we set up the whole CI system?
Thanks again,
EdB
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Carlos Cruz <ca...@nbtbizcapital.com> wrote:
> Although I'm still not using Apache Flex, I'm still stuck on Adobe's Flex/FB
> 4.6, I do have a keen interest in Flex succeeding, at a data center in
> Montreal I have the following I could spare no problem:
> 5 x Dell 2650
> 3 x Dell 2850
>
> and I could be persuaded to make 1 Dell 1950 or a 2950 available.
>
> I could be quite tolerant of traffic and I could spare one static IP.
>
> Let me know
> Carlos
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Om
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:56 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Just keep in mind that Jenkins runs as a server and could use the same port
> (80) that Mustella's server runs by default. To avoid this problem, make
> sure that you use a different port for Mustella.
>
> Also, it would be best if you run a full run of Mustella from the command
> line at least once before attempting to run it from Jenkins. Would make
> your life easier :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is the config xml for local checkin_tests job that I set up on my
>> machine [1]. You will need to modify it to run Mustella. If you
>> could do that and share the Jenkins config xml with the group, that would
> be great!
>>
>> [1] http://pastebin.com/ydDWRwR9
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM, JP Bader <jp...@zavteq.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if
>>> anyone can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can
>>> boot up a win box and make a CI happen as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci
>>> server? It
>>> > has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
>>> > On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>>> > > Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover,
>>> > > since
>>> it
>>> > is
>>> > > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it
>>> > > takes weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>>> > >
>>> > > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does
>>> > > not
>>> have
>>> > to
>>> > > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer
> somewhere.
>>> > One
>>> > > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull
>>> > > every
>>> night
>>> > > and run the tests. I
>>> > >
>>> > > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying
>>> around
>>> > > with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the
>>> > > group
>>> > know
>>> > > when things break, that would be a good start.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Om
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
>>> > > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server
>>> > > > for
>>> that.
>>> > > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
>>> > Jetbrains
>>> > > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>>> > > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just
>>> > > > for
>>> the
>>> > > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Chris
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>>> > > > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on
>>> git, as
>>> > > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Fred
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> > > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>>> > > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and
>>> bandwidth.
>>> > > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in
>>> some
>>> > of
>>> > > >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending,
> and
>>> > how
>>> > > >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each
> night,
>>> > that
>>> > > >> could be quite a bit..
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Nick
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <
>>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> > From [1]:
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
>>> > contract
>>> > > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If
>>> we
>>> > run
>>> > > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that
>>> would
>>> > > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years
>>> would
>>> > > >> > take something like $1500.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>>> > > >> > transfer, access)?
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to
>>> get
>>> > > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > EdB
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
>>> > > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <
>>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a
> sufficiently
>>> > > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be
>>> willing
>>> > > to
>>> > > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
>>> > happen,
>>> > > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > EdB
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>> > > >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> Well I spoke with
>>> > > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
>>> > > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>> > > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was
>>> the
>>> > > one
>>> > > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
>>> > > Medium
>>> > > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon
>>> couldn't go
>>> > > >> > around
>>> > > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the
>>> essence
>>> > of
>>> > > >> what
>>> > > >> > he told me).
>>> > > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Chris
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
>>> > > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>>> > > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>> > > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just
> a
>>> > > canned
>>> > > >> > response?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
>>> > > different. I
>>> > > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources
> to
>>> > > Apache
>>> > > >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any
>>> real
>>> > > pull…
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
>>> > them
>>> > > >> and
>>> > > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year
>>> free
>>> > > >> offer.
>>> > > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized
>>> instances.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
>>> > > trunk.
>>> > > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not
> ruining
>>> > the
>>> > > >> > entire test suite.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Chris
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> > > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <
>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>>> > > >> > >>>> Chris,
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and
>>> just
>>> > > >> asking
>>> > > >> > :-)
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Thanks,
>>> > > >> > >>>> Om
>>> > > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>> > > >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good
>>> thing
>>> > > about
>>> > > >> > an open
>>> > > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server
> and
>>> > > build
>>> > > >> > >>>> > the
>>> > > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can
>>> always
>>> > > >> decide
>>> > > >> > on how
>>> > > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Chris
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> > > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>> > > >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact
>>> on
>>> > > >> this,
>>> > > >> > as
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just
>>> using
>>> > > it
>>> > > >> as
>>> > > >> > a test
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like
> to
>>> > keep
>>> > > >> > everything
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine
>>> (or
>>> > > >> > bigger) ...
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get
> from
>>> > them
>>> > > >> > what they
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX)
>>> and
>>> > the
>>> > > >> > tests only
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows
>>> (or
>>> > > OSX).
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Justin
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > --
>>> > > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> > > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > T. 06-51952295
>>> > > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > --
>>> > > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> > > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > T. 06-51952295
>>> > > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JP Bader
>>> Principal
>>> Zavteq, Inc.
>>> @lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
>>> 608.692.2468
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Ix Multimedia Software
Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht
T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl
RE: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Carlos Cruz <ca...@nbtbizcapital.com>.
Although I'm still not using Apache Flex, I'm still stuck on Adobe's Flex/FB
4.6, I do have a keen interest in Flex succeeding, at a data center in
Montreal I have the following I could spare no problem:
5 x Dell 2650
3 x Dell 2850
and I could be persuaded to make 1 Dell 1950 or a 2950 available.
I could be quite tolerant of traffic and I could spare one static IP.
Let me know
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Om
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:56 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Just keep in mind that Jenkins runs as a server and could use the same port
(80) that Mustella's server runs by default. To avoid this problem, make
sure that you use a different port for Mustella.
Also, it would be best if you run a full run of Mustella from the command
line at least once before attempting to run it from Jenkins. Would make
your life easier :-)
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the config xml for local checkin_tests job that I set up on my
> machine [1]. You will need to modify it to run Mustella. If you
> could do that and share the Jenkins config xml with the group, that would
be great!
>
> [1] http://pastebin.com/ydDWRwR9
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM, JP Bader <jp...@zavteq.com> wrote:
>
>> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if
>> anyone can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can
>> boot up a win box and make a CI happen as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci
>> server? It
>> > has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
>> > On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>> > > Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover,
>> > > since
>> it
>> > is
>> > > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it
>> > > takes weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>> > >
>> > > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does
>> > > not
>> have
>> > to
>> > > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer
somewhere.
>> > One
>> > > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull
>> > > every
>> night
>> > > and run the tests. I
>> > >
>> > > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying
>> around
>> > > with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the
>> > > group
>> > know
>> > > when things break, that would be a good start.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Om
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
>> > > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server
>> > > > for
>> that.
>> > > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
>> > Jetbrains
>> > > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>> > > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just
>> > > > for
>> the
>> > > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Chris
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>> > > > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on
>> git, as
>> > > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Fred
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -----Message d'origine-----
>> > > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>> > > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and
>> bandwidth.
>> > > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in
>> some
>> > of
>> > > >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending,
and
>> > how
>> > > >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each
night,
>> > that
>> > > >> could be quite a bit..
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Nick
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <
>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > From [1]:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
>> > contract
>> > > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If
>> we
>> > run
>> > > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that
>> would
>> > > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years
>> would
>> > > >> > take something like $1500.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>> > > >> > transfer, access)?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to
>> get
>> > > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > EdB
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
>> > > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <
>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a
sufficiently
>> > > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be
>> willing
>> > > to
>> > > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
>> > happen,
>> > > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > EdB
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>> > > >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>> > > >> > >> Well I spoke with
>> > > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
>> > > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>> > > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was
>> the
>> > > one
>> > > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
>> > > Medium
>> > > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon
>> couldn't go
>> > > >> > around
>> > > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the
>> essence
>> > of
>> > > >> what
>> > > >> > he told me).
>> > > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Chris
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
>> > > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>> > > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>> > > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just
a
>> > > canned
>> > > >> > response?
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
>> > > different. I
>> > > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources
to
>> > > Apache
>> > > >> > Flex
Anyone have a contact there?
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any
>> real
>> > > pull
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
>> > them
>> > > >> and
>> > > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year
>> free
>> > > >> offer.
>> > > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized
>> instances.
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
>> > > trunk.
>> > > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not
ruining
>> > the
>> > > >> > entire test suite.
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> Chris
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <
>> bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>> > > >> > >>>> Chris,
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and
>> just
>> > > >> asking
>> > > >> > :-)
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > > >> > >>>> Om
>> > > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>> > > >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good
>> thing
>> > > about
>> > > >> > an open
>> > > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server
and
>> > > build
>> > > >> > >>>> > the
>> > > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can
>> always
>> > > >> decide
>> > > >> > on how
>> > > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> > Chris
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>> > > >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact
>> on
>> > > >> this,
>> > > >> > as
>> > > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just
>> using
>> > > it
>> > > >> as
>> > > >> > a test
>> > > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like
to
>> > keep
>> > > >> > everything
>> > > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine
>> (or
>> > > >> > bigger) ...
>> > > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get
from
>> > them
>> > > >> > what they
>> > > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX)
>> and
>> > the
>> > > >> > tests only
>> > > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows
>> (or
>> > > OSX).
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Justin
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > T. 06-51952295
>> > > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > T. 06-51952295
>> > > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> JP Bader
>> Principal
>> Zavteq, Inc.
>> @lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
>> 608.692.2468
>>
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Just keep in mind that Jenkins runs as a server and could use the same port
(80) that Mustella's server runs by default. To avoid this problem, make
sure that you use a different port for Mustella.
Also, it would be best if you run a full run of Mustella from the command
line at least once before attempting to run it from Jenkins. Would make
your life easier :-)
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the config xml for local checkin_tests job that I set up on my
> machine [1]. You will need to modify it to run Mustella. If you could do
> that and share the Jenkins config xml with the group, that would be great!
>
> [1] http://pastebin.com/ydDWRwR9
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM, JP Bader <jp...@zavteq.com> wrote:
>
>> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if anyone
>> can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can boot up a
>> win
>> box and make a CI happen as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci
>> server? It
>> > has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
>> > On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>> > > Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since
>> it
>> > is
>> > > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
>> > > weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>> > >
>> > > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not
>> have
>> > to
>> > > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere.
>> > One
>> > > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every
>> night
>> > > and run the tests. I
>> > >
>> > > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying
>> around
>> > > with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group
>> > know
>> > > when things break, that would be a good start.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Om
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
>> > > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for
>> that.
>> > > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
>> > Jetbrains
>> > > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>> > > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for
>> the
>> > > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Chris
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > > > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>> > > > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on
>> git, as
>> > > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Fred
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -----Message d'origine-----
>> > > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>> > > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and
>> bandwidth.
>> > > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in
>> some
>> > of
>> > > >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and
>> > how
>> > > >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night,
>> > that
>> > > >> could be quite a bit..
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Nick
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <
>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > From [1]:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
>> > contract
>> > > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If
>> we
>> > run
>> > > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that
>> would
>> > > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years
>> would
>> > > >> > take something like $1500.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>> > > >> > transfer, access)?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to
>> get
>> > > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > EdB
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
>> > > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <
>> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>> > > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be
>> willing
>> > > to
>> > > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
>> > happen,
>> > > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > EdB
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>> > > >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>> > > >> > >> Well I spoke with
>> > > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
>> > > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>> > > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was
>> the
>> > > one
>> > > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
>> > > Medium
>> > > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon
>> couldn't go
>> > > >> > around
>> > > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the
>> essence
>> > of
>> > > >> what
>> > > >> > he told me).
>> > > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Chris
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
>> > > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>> > > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>> > > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
>> > > canned
>> > > >> > response?
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
>> > > different. I
>> > > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
>> > > Apache
>> > > >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any
>> real
>> > > pull…
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
>> > them
>> > > >> and
>> > > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year
>> free
>> > > >> offer.
>> > > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized
>> instances.
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
>> > > trunk.
>> > > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining
>> > the
>> > > >> > entire test suite.
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> Chris
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <
>> bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>> > > >> > >>>> Chris,
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and
>> just
>> > > >> asking
>> > > >> > :-)
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > > >> > >>>> Om
>> > > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>> > > >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
>> > > >> > >>>>
>> > > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good
>> thing
>> > > about
>> > > >> > an open
>> > > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
>> > > build
>> > > >> > >>>> > the
>> > > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can
>> always
>> > > >> decide
>> > > >> > on how
>> > > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> > Chris
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>> > > >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact
>> on
>> > > >> this,
>> > > >> > as
>> > > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just
>> using
>> > > it
>> > > >> as
>> > > >> > a test
>> > > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to
>> > keep
>> > > >> > everything
>> > > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine
>> (or
>> > > >> > bigger) ...
>> > > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from
>> > them
>> > > >> > what they
>> > > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX)
>> and
>> > the
>> > > >> > tests only
>> > > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows
>> (or
>> > > OSX).
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >> Justin
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>> >
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > --
>> > > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > T. 06-51952295
>> > > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > T. 06-51952295
>> > > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> JP Bader
>> Principal
>> Zavteq, Inc.
>> @lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
>> 608.692.2468
>>
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Here is the config xml for local checkin_tests job that I set up on my
machine [1]. You will need to modify it to run Mustella. If you could do
that and share the Jenkins config xml with the group, that would be great!
[1] http://pastebin.com/ydDWRwR9
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM, JP Bader <jp...@zavteq.com> wrote:
> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if anyone
> can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can boot up a win
> box and make a CI happen as well.
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci server?
> It
> > has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
> > On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
> > > Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it
> > is
> > > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
> > > weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
> > >
> > > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not
> have
> > to
> > > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere.
> > One
> > > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every
> night
> > > and run the tests. I
> > >
> > > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying
> around
> > > with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group
> > know
> > > when things break, that would be a good start.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
> > > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for
> that.
> > > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
> > Jetbrains
> > > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> > > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for
> the
> > > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > > > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> > > > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git,
> as
> > > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Fred
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
> > > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > > >>
> > > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and
> bandwidth.
> > > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in
> some
> > of
> > > >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and
> > how
> > > >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night,
> > that
> > > >> could be quite a bit..
> > > >>
> > > >> -Nick
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <erik@ixsoftware.nl
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > From [1]:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
> > contract
> > > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we
> > run
> > > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that
> would
> > > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years
> would
> > > >> > take something like $1500.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> > > >> > transfer, access)?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to
> get
> > > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > EdB
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
> > > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <
> erik@ixsoftware.nl>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> > > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be
> willing
> > > to
> > > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
> > happen,
> > > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > EdB
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > > >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> > > >> > >> Well I spoke with
> > > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
> > > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> > > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was
> the
> > > one
> > > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
> > > Medium
> > > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't
> go
> > > >> > around
> > > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence
> > of
> > > >> what
> > > >> > he told me).
> > > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Chris
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
> > > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> > > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> > > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
> > > canned
> > > >> > response?
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
> > > different. I
> > > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
> > > Apache
> > > >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real
> > > pull…
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
> > them
> > > >> and
> > > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
> > > >> offer.
> > > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized
> instances.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
> > > trunk.
> > > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining
> > the
> > > >> > entire test suite.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Chris
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >:
> > > >> > >>>> Chris,
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
> > > >> asking
> > > >> > :-)
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >> > >>>> Om
> > > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> > > >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing
> > > about
> > > >> > an open
> > > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
> > > build
> > > >> > >>>> > the
> > > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can
> always
> > > >> decide
> > > >> > on how
> > > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>> > Chris
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> > > >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
> > > >> > >>>> >>
> > > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact
> on
> > > >> this,
> > > >> > as
> > > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just
> using
> > > it
> > > >> as
> > > >> > a test
> > > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to
> > keep
> > > >> > everything
> > > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> > > >> > >>>> >>
> > > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine
> (or
> > > >> > bigger) ...
> > > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from
> > them
> > > >> > what they
> > > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> > > >> > >>>> >>
> > > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and
> > the
> > > >> > tests only
> > > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or
> > > OSX).
> > > >> > >>>> >>
> > > >> > >>>> >> Justin
> > > >> > >>>> >>
> > > >> > >>>> >>
> > > >> > >>>> >>
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>> >
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > T. 06-51952295
> > > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > >> >
> > > >> > T. 06-51952295
> > > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> JP Bader
> Principal
> Zavteq, Inc.
> @lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
> 608.692.2468
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
It would be interesting to divvy up a full mustella run across several
computers and see how fast it can get done.
On 2/19/13 10:41 AM, "JP Bader" <jp...@zavteq.com> wrote:
> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if anyone
> can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can boot up a win
> box and make a CI happen as well.
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci server? It
>> has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
>> On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>>> Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it
>> is
>>> a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
>>> weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>>>
>>> We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have
>> to
>>> be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere.
>> One
>>> could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
>>> and run the tests. I
>>>
>>> In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
>>> with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group
>> know
>>> when things break, that would be a good start.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
>>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
>>>> Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
>> Jetbrains
>>>> could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
>>>> pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
>>>> nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>>>> webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
>>>>> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Fred
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>>
>>>>> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
>>>>> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some
>> of
>>>>> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and
>> how
>>>>> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night,
>> that
>>>>> could be quite a bit..
>>>>>
>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From [1]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
>> contract
>>>>>> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we
>> run
>>>>>> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>>>>>> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>>>>>> take something like $1500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>>>>>> transfer, access)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>>>>>> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
>>> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>>>>>>> powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing
>>> to
>>>>>>> donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
>> happen,
>>>>>>> and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>>>>>>> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well I spoke with
>>>>>>>> Toan Nguyen
>>>>>>>> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>>>>>>> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the
>>> one
>>>>>> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
>>> Medium
>>>>>> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence
>> of
>>>>> what
>>>>>> he told me).
>>>>>>>> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>>>>>> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>>>>>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
>>> canned
>>>>>> response?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
>>> different. I
>>>>>> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
>>> Apache
>>>>>> FlexŠ Anyone have a contact there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real
>>> pullŠ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
>> them
>>>>> and
>>>>>> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
>>>>> offer.
>>>>>> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
>>> trunk.
>>>>>> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining
>> the
>>>>>> entire test suite.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
>>>>> asking
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>>>>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing
>>> about
>>>>>> an open
>>>>>>>>>>> source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
>>>>> decide
>>>>>> on how
>>>>>>>>>>> we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>>>>>>>>>> justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
>>>>> this,
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using
>>> it
>>>>> as
>>>>>> a test
>>>>>>>>>>>> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to
>> keep
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>>>>>> bigger) ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from
>> them
>>>>>> what they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and
>> the
>>>>>> tests only
>>>>>>>>>>>> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or
>>> OSX).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>>
>>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by JP Bader <jp...@zavteq.com>.
Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if anyone
can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can boot up a win
box and make a CI happen as well.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci server? It
> has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
> On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
> > Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it
> is
> > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
> > weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
> >
> > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have
> to
> > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere.
> One
> > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
> > and run the tests. I
> >
> > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
> > with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group
> know
> > when things break, that would be a good start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
> > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
> Jetbrains
> > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
> > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> > > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
> > >
> > > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
> > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
> > >>
> > >> -Fred
> > >>
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
> > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > >>
> > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
> > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some
> of
> > >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and
> how
> > >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night,
> that
> > >> could be quite a bit..
> > >>
> > >> -Nick
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > From [1]:
> > >> >
> > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year
> contract
> > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we
> run
> > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> > >> > take something like $1500.
> > >> >
> > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> > >> > transfer, access)?
> > >> >
> > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
> > >> >
> > >> > EdB
> > >> >
> > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
> > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing
> > to
> > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this
> happen,
> > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > EdB
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> > >> > >> Well I spoke with
> > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
> > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the
> > one
> > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
> > Medium
> > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
> > >> > around
> > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence
> of
> > >> what
> > >> > he told me).
> > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Chris
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
> > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
> > canned
> > >> > response?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
> > different. I
> > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
> > Apache
> > >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real
> > pull…
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to
> them
> > >> and
> > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
> > >> offer.
> > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
> > trunk.
> > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining
> the
> > >> > entire test suite.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Chris
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> > >> > >>>> Chris,
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
> > >> asking
> > >> > :-)
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >> > >>>> Om
> > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> > >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing
> > about
> > >> > an open
> > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
> > build
> > >> > >>>> > the
> > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
> > >> decide
> > >> > on how
> > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Chris
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> > >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
> > >> this,
> > >> > as
> > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using
> > it
> > >> as
> > >> > a test
> > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to
> keep
> > >> > everything
> > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> > >> > bigger) ...
> > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from
> them
> > >> > what they
> > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and
> the
> > >> > tests only
> > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or
> > OSX).
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >> Justin
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >>
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >> > >
> > >> > > T. 06-51952295
> > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >> >
> > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >> >
> > >> > T. 06-51952295
> > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
--
JP Bader
Principal
Zavteq, Inc.
@lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
608.692.2468
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci server? It
has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
> Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it is
> a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
> weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>
> We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have to
> be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere. One
> could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
> and run the tests. I
>
> In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
> with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group know
> when things break, that would be a good start.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > wrote:
>
> > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
> > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually Jetbrains
> > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
> > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >
> >
> > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> > webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
> >
> > It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
> >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
> >>
> >> -Fred
> >>
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
> >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >>
> >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
> >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
> >> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
> >> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
> >> could be quite a bit..
> >>
> >> -Nick
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From [1]:
> >> >
> >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
> >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
> >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> >> > take something like $1500.
> >> >
> >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> >> > transfer, access)?
> >> >
> >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing
> to
> >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
> >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> >> > >
> >> > > EdB
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> >> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >> > >> Well I spoke with
> >> > >> Toan Nguyen
> >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the
> one
> >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide
> Medium
> >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
> >> > around
> >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
> >> what
> >> > he told me).
> >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Chris
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ______________________________**__________
> >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a
> canned
> >> > response?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
> different. I
> >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to
> Apache
> >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real
> pull…
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them
> >> and
> >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
> >> offer.
> >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable
> trunk.
> >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
> >> > entire test suite.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Chris
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>>> Chris,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
> >> asking
> >> > :-)
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>> Om
> >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> >> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> >> > >>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing
> about
> >> > an open
> >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and
> build
> >> > >>>> > the
> >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
> >> decide
> >> > on how
> >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Chris
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> >> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >> Hi,
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
> >> this,
> >> > as
> >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using
> it
> >> as
> >> > a test
> >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> >> > everything
> >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> >> > bigger) ...
> >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
> >> > what they
> >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
> >> > tests only
> >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or
> OSX).
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Justin
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> > >
> >> > > T. 06-51952295
> >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >> >
> >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> >
> >> > T. 06-51952295
> >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
Running tests for hours together is not an option. Moreover, since it is
a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it takes
weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
We need something robust that we can manage ourselves. It does not have to
be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer somewhere. One
could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull every night
and run the tests. I
In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started toying around
with Amazon EC2. If someone can set it up anywhere and let the group know
when things break, that would be a good start.
Thanks,
Om
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> wrote:
> Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
> Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually Jetbrains
> could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
> pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
> nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
> webdoublefx@hotmail.com>:
>
> It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
>> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>
>> -Fred
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>
>> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
>> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
>> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
>> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
>> could be quite a bit..
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From [1]:
>> >
>> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
>> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
>> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
>> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
>> > take something like $1500.
>> >
>> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
>> > transfer, access)?
>> >
>> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
>> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
>> wrote:
>> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
>> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
>> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
>> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>> > >
>> > > EdB
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
>> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>> > >> Well I spoke with
>> > >> Toan Nguyen
>> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
>> > >>
>> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
>> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>> > >>
>> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
>> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
>> > around
>> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of
>> what
>> > he told me).
>> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>> > >>
>> > >> Chris
>> > >>
>> > >> ______________________________**__________
>> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > >>
>> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
>> > response?
>> > >>
>> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
>> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
>> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>> > >>
>> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>> > >>
>> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them
>> and
>> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
>> offer.
>> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
>> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
>> > entire test suite.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Chris
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>> Chris,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just
>> asking
>> > :-)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>> Om
>> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
>> > an open
>> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
>> > >>>> > the
>> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always
>> decide
>> > on how
>> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Chris
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >> Hi,
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on
>> this,
>> > as
>> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it
>> as
>> > a test
>> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
>> > everything
>> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
>> > bigger) ...
>> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
>> > what they
>> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
>> > tests only
>> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >> Justin
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >>
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>> > >
>> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> > >
>> > > T. 06-51952295
>> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ix Multimedia Software
>> >
>> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> >
>> > T. 06-51952295
>> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server for that.
Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that eventually
Jetbrains could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of
pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was just for the
nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
Chris
Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com
Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>:
> It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>
> -Fred
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
> my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
> much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
> could be quite a bit..
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
> > From [1]:
> >
> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> > take something like $1500.
> >
> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> > transfer, access)?
> >
> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
> >
> > EdB
> >
> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> > >
> > > EdB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> > >> Well I spoke with
> > >> Toan Nguyen
> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> > >>
> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> > >>
> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
> > around
> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what
> > he told me).
> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > >>
> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
> > response?
> > >>
> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> > >>
> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and
> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer.
> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
> > entire test suite.
> > >>>
> > >>> Chris
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>> Chris,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking
> > :-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Om
> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> > christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
> > an open
> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
> > >>>> > the
> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide
> > on how
> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Chris
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> > >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> Hi,
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this,
> > as
> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as
> > a test
> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> > everything
> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> > bigger) ...
> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
> > what they
> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
> > tests only
> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Justin
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >
> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >
> > > T. 06-51952295
> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move on git, as
stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
-Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
could be quite a bit..
-Nick
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> From [1]:
>
> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> take something like $1500.
>
> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> transfer, access)?
>
> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>
> EdB
>
> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
> > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
> > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >> Well I spoke with
> >> Toan Nguyen
> >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> >>
> >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> >>
> >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go
> around
> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what
> he told me).
> >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >>
> >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
> response?
> >>
> >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
> Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> >>
> >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
> >>
> >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and
> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer.
> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> >>>
> >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
> entire test suite.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >>>> Chris,
> >>>>
> >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking
> :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Om
> >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
> an open
> >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide
> on how
> >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Chris
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Hi,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this,
> as
> >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as
> a test
> >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> everything
> >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> bigger) ...
> >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
> what they
> >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
> tests only
> >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Justin
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and bandwidth.
These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, in some of
my cases). It all depends on how much traffic you are sending, and how
much you are storing... If you are pulling full builds each night, that
could be quite a bit..
-Nick
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> From [1]:
>
> Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
> would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
> once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
> mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
> take something like $1500.
>
> Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
> transfer, access)?
>
> If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
> that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>
> EdB
>
> 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
> > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
> > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> > <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >> Well I spoke with
> >> Toan Nguyen
> >> Enterprise Sales Manager
> >>
> >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one
> responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
> >>
> >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium
> Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go around
> giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what
> he told me).
> >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >>
> >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
> response?
> >>
> >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
> Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
> >>
> >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
> >>
> >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and
> it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer.
> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> >>>
> >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
> entire test suite.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >>>> Chris,
> >>>>
> >>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking
> :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Om
> >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about
> an open
> >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
> >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide
> on how
> >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Chris
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> >>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Hi,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this,
> as
> >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as
> a test
> >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> everything
> >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or
> bigger) ...
> >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them
> what they
> >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the
> tests only
> >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Justin
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
>From [1]:
Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 year contract
would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per hour. If we run
once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), that would
mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 years would
take something like $1500.
Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding (data
transfer, access)?
If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be able to get
that kind of money together, couldn't we?
EdB
1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
> powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
> donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
> and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>> Well I spoke with
>> Toan Nguyen
>> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>
>> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>
>> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go around giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what he told me).
>> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>
>> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned response?
>>
>> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>>
>> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>
>>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer. Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>>
>>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk. Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the entire test suite.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
>>>>
>>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Om
>>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an open
>>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
>>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide on how
>>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > Chris
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
>>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test
>>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything
>>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ...
>>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they
>>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only
>>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Justin
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a sufficiently
powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would be willing to
donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see this happen,
and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
EdB
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Well I spoke with
> Toan Nguyen
> Enterprise Sales Manager
>
> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>
> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go around giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what he told me).
> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned response?
>
> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>
> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>
>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer. Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>>
>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk. Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the entire test suite.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
>>>
>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>>
>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an open
>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide on how
>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>>> >
>>> > Chris
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test
>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything
>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>> >>
>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ...
>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they
>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only
>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>> >>
>>> >> Justin
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>
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AW: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Well I spoke with
Toan Nguyen
Enterprise Sales Manager
I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. He was the one responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to provide Medium Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon couldn't go around giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the essence of what he told me).
Eventaully someone else might think differently.
Chris
________________________________________
Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned response?
If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer. Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>
> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk. Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the entire test suite.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> Chris,
>>
>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
>>
>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>
>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an open
>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide on how
>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test
>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything
>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>> >>
>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ...
>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they
>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only
>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>> >>
>> >> Justin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
I know one of their "evangelists" there. I'll see what I can get away
with. They like to donate ec2 instances to my class when I've been
teaching it..
On another note -- have we asked infra@a.o. to see if they could give us
our own VM? It looks like some other projects have them. That may be the
easier solution..
-Nick
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Harbs <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned
> response?
>
> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I
> can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache
> Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>
> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
>
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>
> > Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and it
> seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer.
> Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
> >
> > I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
> Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
> entire test suite.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >
> >
> > Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
> >>
> >> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
> >>
> >> Please let me know how I can help.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Om
> >> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an
> open
> >> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
> >> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide
> on how
> >> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> >> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> >> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
> >> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a
> test
> >> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> everything
> >> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> >> >>
> >> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger)
> ...
> >> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what
> they
> >> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests
> only
> >> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
> >> >>
> >> >> Justin
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Harbs <ga...@gmail.com>.
Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it just a canned response?
If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be different. I can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some resources to Apache Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have any real pull…
On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free offer. Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
>
> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk. Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the entire test suite.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> Chris,
>>
>> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
>>
>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>
>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an open
>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide on how
>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test
>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything
>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>> >>
>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ...
>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they
>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only
>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>> >>
>> >> Justin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just tasked to them and
it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 year free
offer. Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized instances.
I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a stable trunk.
Especially with more and more people contributing and not ruining the
entire test suite.
Chris
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Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <bi...@gmail.com>:
> Chris,
>
> You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
>
> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>
> Please let me know how I can help.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an open
> > source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide on how
> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >
> >
> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> > justin@classsoftware.com>:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test
> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything
> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
> >>
> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ...
> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they
> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
> >>
> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only
> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
> >>
> >> Justin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Chris,
You are awesome! I never thought of contacting them and just asking :-)
Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
Please let me know how I can help.
Thanks,
Om
On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an open
> source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build the
> projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide on how
> we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
>
> Chris
>
>
> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
> justin@classsoftware.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
>> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test
>> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything
>> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>
>> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ...
>> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they
>> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>
>> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only
>> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The good thing about an
open source project is, that anyone could setup a ci-server and build
the projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We can always decide
on how we do it a soon as we have something do decide about :-)
Chris
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Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as
> we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a
> test server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep
> everything in house (for legal and other reasons).
>
> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger)
> ... if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what
> they are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>
> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests
> only run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
>
> Justin
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an impact on this, as we're not externally hosting anything or the list just using it as a test server I can't see any obvious issues but they do like to keep everything in house (for legal and other reasons).
> I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ... if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they are willing to give in Linux ;-)
Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or OSX) and the tests only run in the Flash Projector it really has to be windows (or OSX).
Justin
AW: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
I took the liberty of contacting Amazon and asked them if they were willing to provide us with such a medium Windows instance free of charge. I thought ... asking doesn't harm.
As a reply I got a mail yesterday evening, asking me to call them personally to discuss our needs ... I would like to do this. I was intending on asking for a medium Windows machine (or bigger) ... if however Windows is not a must, I could try to get from them what they are willing to give in Linux ;-)
What do you think? I think having one or two CI Agents for nightly builds including all tests would be a good thing to have.
Chris
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [mailto:nicholas@spoon.as]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 02:14
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
I ran my dev box hosted on a medium instance.... Anything smaller and you are asking for trouble..
I don't remember if the small was of any value.. But pretty much, the larger the box, the faster the tests will run.
-Nick
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, I give up. The micro instance has 600MB of RAM and 30GB of hard
> disk. It has taken around 2.5 days since I started the mustella run
> and it has not finished yet. It took more than 24 hours to just
> compile the tests. And it has written over 17 million times to the
> page file on the hard disk. That is where the costs are racking up
> :-)
>
> I am going to see what it takes to upgrade to a Mini instance.
>
> Any recommendations on what I should expect on a mini instance?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> nicholas@spoon.as>wrote:
> >
> >> I use EC2 for quite a few things. Just a few thoughts...
> >>
> >> - I don't know if the micro instance (the free one) will be
> >> powerful enough to do much mustella testing. It comes with a very
> >> limited amount of RAM and CPU... If it does manage to run, I'm
> >> sure it will be painful.
> >>
> >
> > Painful to? The machine? ;-)
> > I am yet to get a single run of mustella to go through. We will
> > know for sure how bad it is.
> >
> >
> >> - The micro instance is free for the first year, assuming you
> >> only run one instance at a time. Bandwidth and storage is not
> >> free, however. I have a project half the size of Flex on a CI
> >> server on EC2, and I
> usually
> >> get a bill of about $29/month, if you don't count the EC2 instance
> costs.
> >> This will be billed to a somebody's credit card.
> >>
> >
> > Yup, that would be my credit card. I am planning to run it for a
> > couple of months straight and see what the costs are. If it is too
> > much for
> me, I
> > will pull the plug. Unless we figure out a way to get some
> > volunteers to chip in.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -Nick
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:01 AM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
> >> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Actually, when setting up the Flexmojos CI suite, I gave up
> >> > trying to setup a Linux-Based instance. Getting the FlashPlayer
> >> > to run on a
> >> headless
> >> > machine is surely a task to make you loose your head.
> >> >
> >> > The only option I saw in having FlashPlayer based unit test
> >> > running,
> was
> >> > the Windows machine. And for FM I even needed a medium sized
> >> > instance,
> >> as
> >> > the memory of the micro editions is way to low to allow serius
> >> > test to
> >> run
> >> > on it.
> >> >
> >> > I know that Medium Windows machines are more expensive, but I
> currently
> >> > donate the 60$-100$/Month to the Flexmojos Project. After all ...
> >> > they
> >> only
> >> > cost, if I let the tests run and that's currently not very often.
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> >> > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 00:48
> >> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> >
> >> > Windows instances are more expensive, but yes, there's that option.
> >> >
> >> > On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Just seen there are windows instances.
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
> >> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
> >> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Om,
> >> > >
> >> > > I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how
> >> > > to
> setup
> >> > the
> >> > > Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5
> dependancies,
> >> > how
> >> > > will you do ?
> >> > >
> >> > > -Fred
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> >> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
> >> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> > >
> >> > > Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours
> >> > > free
> >> per
> >> > > month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started
> >> downloading
> >> > > the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
> >> > > 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully 3. Get the full
> >> > > Mustella test to run successfully
> >> > >
> >> > > If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and
> >> > > start a
> >> > daily
> >> > > run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23
> >> > > hours a
> >> day.
> >> > I
> >> > > hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more
> >> > > than 23
> >> > hours.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this
> >> > > setup
> >> with
> >> > > their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I
> >> > > plan
> to
> >> pay
> >> > > for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
> >> > >
> >> > > There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will
> >> > > keep you
> >> all
> >> > > updated how this little experiment goes.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Om
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
I ran my dev box hosted on a medium instance.... Anything smaller and you
are asking for trouble..
I don't remember if the small was of any value.. But pretty much, the
larger the box, the faster the tests will run.
-Nick
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, I give up. The micro instance has 600MB of RAM and 30GB of hard
> disk. It has taken around 2.5 days since I started the mustella run and it
> has not finished yet. It took more than 24 hours to just compile the
> tests. And it has written over 17 million times to the page file on the
> hard disk. That is where the costs are racking up :-)
>
> I am going to see what it takes to upgrade to a Mini instance.
>
> Any recommendations on what I should expect on a mini instance?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> nicholas@spoon.as>wrote:
> >
> >> I use EC2 for quite a few things. Just a few thoughts...
> >>
> >> - I don't know if the micro instance (the free one) will be powerful
> >> enough to do much mustella testing. It comes with a very limited amount
> >> of
> >> RAM and CPU... If it does manage to run, I'm sure it will be painful.
> >>
> >
> > Painful to? The machine? ;-)
> > I am yet to get a single run of mustella to go through. We will know for
> > sure how bad it is.
> >
> >
> >> - The micro instance is free for the first year, assuming you only run
> >> one instance at a time. Bandwidth and storage is not free, however. I
> >> have a project half the size of Flex on a CI server on EC2, and I
> usually
> >> get a bill of about $29/month, if you don't count the EC2 instance
> costs.
> >> This will be billed to a somebody's credit card.
> >>
> >
> > Yup, that would be my credit card. I am planning to run it for a couple
> > of months straight and see what the costs are. If it is too much for
> me, I
> > will pull the plug. Unless we figure out a way to get some volunteers to
> > chip in.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -Nick
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:01 AM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
> >> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Actually, when setting up the Flexmojos CI suite, I gave up trying to
> >> > setup a Linux-Based instance. Getting the FlashPlayer to run on a
> >> headless
> >> > machine is surely a task to make you loose your head.
> >> >
> >> > The only option I saw in having FlashPlayer based unit test running,
> was
> >> > the Windows machine. And for FM I even needed a medium sized instance,
> >> as
> >> > the memory of the micro editions is way to low to allow serius test to
> >> run
> >> > on it.
> >> >
> >> > I know that Medium Windows machines are more expensive, but I
> currently
> >> > donate the 60$-100$/Month to the Flexmojos Project. After all ... they
> >> only
> >> > cost, if I let the tests run and that's currently not very often.
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> >> > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 00:48
> >> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> >
> >> > Windows instances are more expensive, but yes, there's that option.
> >> >
> >> > On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Just seen there are windows instances.
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
> >> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
> >> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Om,
> >> > >
> >> > > I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to
> setup
> >> > the
> >> > > Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5
> dependancies,
> >> > how
> >> > > will you do ?
> >> > >
> >> > > -Fred
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> >> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
> >> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >> > >
> >> > > Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free
> >> per
> >> > > month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started
> >> downloading
> >> > > the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
> >> > > 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
> >> > > 3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
> >> > >
> >> > > If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a
> >> > daily
> >> > > run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a
> >> day.
> >> > I
> >> > > hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23
> >> > hours.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup
> >> with
> >> > > their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan
> to
> >> pay
> >> > > for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
> >> > >
> >> > > There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you
> >> all
> >> > > updated how this little experiment goes.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Om
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Okay, I give up. The micro instance has 600MB of RAM and 30GB of hard
disk. It has taken around 2.5 days since I started the mustella run and it
has not finished yet. It took more than 24 hours to just compile the
tests. And it has written over 17 million times to the page file on the
hard disk. That is where the costs are racking up :-)
I am going to see what it takes to upgrade to a Mini instance.
Any recommendations on what I should expect on a mini instance?
Thanks,
Om
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:
>
>> I use EC2 for quite a few things. Just a few thoughts...
>>
>> - I don't know if the micro instance (the free one) will be powerful
>> enough to do much mustella testing. It comes with a very limited amount
>> of
>> RAM and CPU... If it does manage to run, I'm sure it will be painful.
>>
>
> Painful to? The machine? ;-)
> I am yet to get a single run of mustella to go through. We will know for
> sure how bad it is.
>
>
>> - The micro instance is free for the first year, assuming you only run
>> one instance at a time. Bandwidth and storage is not free, however. I
>> have a project half the size of Flex on a CI server on EC2, and I usually
>> get a bill of about $29/month, if you don't count the EC2 instance costs.
>> This will be billed to a somebody's credit card.
>>
>
> Yup, that would be my credit card. I am planning to run it for a couple
> of months straight and see what the costs are. If it is too much for me, I
> will pull the plug. Unless we figure out a way to get some volunteers to
> chip in.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:01 AM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
>> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>
>> > Actually, when setting up the Flexmojos CI suite, I gave up trying to
>> > setup a Linux-Based instance. Getting the FlashPlayer to run on a
>> headless
>> > machine is surely a task to make you loose your head.
>> >
>> > The only option I saw in having FlashPlayer based unit test running, was
>> > the Windows machine. And for FM I even needed a medium sized instance,
>> as
>> > the memory of the micro editions is way to low to allow serius test to
>> run
>> > on it.
>> >
>> > I know that Medium Windows machines are more expensive, but I currently
>> > donate the 60$-100$/Month to the Flexmojos Project. After all ... they
>> only
>> > cost, if I let the tests run and that's currently not very often.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
>> > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 00:48
>> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> >
>> > Windows instances are more expensive, but yes, there's that option.
>> >
>> > On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
>> >
>> > > Just seen there are windows instances.
>> > >
>> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
>> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
>> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > > Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > >
>> > > Hi Om,
>> > >
>> > > I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup
>> > the
>> > > Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies,
>> > how
>> > > will you do ?
>> > >
>> > > -Fred
>> > >
>> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
>> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
>> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > > Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>> > >
>> > > Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free
>> per
>> > > month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started
>> downloading
>> > > the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
>> > >
>> > > 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
>> > > 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
>> > > 3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
>> > >
>> > > If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a
>> > daily
>> > > run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a
>> day.
>> > I
>> > > hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23
>> > hours.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup
>> with
>> > > their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to
>> pay
>> > > for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
>> > >
>> > > There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you
>> all
>> > > updated how this little experiment goes.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Om
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:
> I use EC2 for quite a few things. Just a few thoughts...
>
> - I don't know if the micro instance (the free one) will be powerful
> enough to do much mustella testing. It comes with a very limited amount of
> RAM and CPU... If it does manage to run, I'm sure it will be painful.
>
Painful to? The machine? ;-)
I am yet to get a single run of mustella to go through. We will know for
sure how bad it is.
> - The micro instance is free for the first year, assuming you only run
> one instance at a time. Bandwidth and storage is not free, however. I
> have a project half the size of Flex on a CI server on EC2, and I usually
> get a bill of about $29/month, if you don't count the EC2 instance costs.
> This will be billed to a somebody's credit card.
>
Yup, that would be my credit card. I am planning to run it for a couple of
months straight and see what the costs are. If it is too much for me, I
will pull the plug. Unless we figure out a way to get some volunteers to
chip in.
Thanks,
Om
>
> -Nick
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:01 AM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> > Actually, when setting up the Flexmojos CI suite, I gave up trying to
> > setup a Linux-Based instance. Getting the FlashPlayer to run on a
> headless
> > machine is surely a task to make you loose your head.
> >
> > The only option I saw in having FlashPlayer based unit test running, was
> > the Windows machine. And for FM I even needed a medium sized instance, as
> > the memory of the micro editions is way to low to allow serius test to
> run
> > on it.
> >
> > I know that Medium Windows machines are more expensive, but I currently
> > donate the 60$-100$/Month to the Flexmojos Project. After all ... they
> only
> > cost, if I let the tests run and that's currently not very often.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 00:48
> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >
> > Windows instances are more expensive, but yes, there's that option.
> >
> > On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
> >
> > > Just seen there are windows instances.
> > >
> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > >
> > > Hi Om,
> > >
> > > I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup
> > the
> > > Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies,
> > how
> > > will you do ?
> > >
> > > -Fred
> > >
> > > -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> > >
> > > Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free
> per
> > > month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started
> downloading
> > > the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
> > >
> > > 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
> > > 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
> > > 3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
> > >
> > > If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a
> > daily
> > > run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a
> day.
> > I
> > > hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23
> > hours.
> > >
> > >
> > > If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup
> with
> > > their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to
> pay
> > > for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
> > >
> > > There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you
> all
> > > updated how this little experiment goes.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Om
> > >
> >
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
I use EC2 for quite a few things. Just a few thoughts...
- I don't know if the micro instance (the free one) will be powerful
enough to do much mustella testing. It comes with a very limited amount of
RAM and CPU... If it does manage to run, I'm sure it will be painful.
- The micro instance is free for the first year, assuming you only run
one instance at a time. Bandwidth and storage is not free, however. I
have a project half the size of Flex on a CI server on EC2, and I usually
get a bill of about $29/month, if you don't count the EC2 instance costs.
This will be billed to a somebody's credit card.
-Nick
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:01 AM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Actually, when setting up the Flexmojos CI suite, I gave up trying to
> setup a Linux-Based instance. Getting the FlashPlayer to run on a headless
> machine is surely a task to make you loose your head.
>
> The only option I saw in having FlashPlayer based unit test running, was
> the Windows machine. And for FM I even needed a medium sized instance, as
> the memory of the micro editions is way to low to allow serius test to run
> on it.
>
> I know that Medium Windows machines are more expensive, but I currently
> donate the 60$-100$/Month to the Flexmojos Project. After all ... they only
> cost, if I let the tests run and that's currently not very often.
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 00:48
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Windows instances are more expensive, but yes, there's that option.
>
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
>
> > Just seen there are windows instances.
> >
> > -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >
> > Hi Om,
> >
> > I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup
> the
> > Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies,
> how
> > will you do ?
> >
> > -Fred
> >
> > -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
> >
> > Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free per
> > month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started downloading
> > the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
> >
> > 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
> > 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
> > 3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
> >
> > If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a
> daily
> > run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day.
> I
> > hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23
> hours.
> >
> >
> > If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup with
> > their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to pay
> > for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
> >
> > There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you all
> > updated how this little experiment goes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Om
> >
>
AW: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Actually, when setting up the Flexmojos CI suite, I gave up trying to setup a Linux-Based instance. Getting the FlashPlayer to run on a headless machine is surely a task to make you loose your head.
The only option I saw in having FlashPlayer based unit test running, was the Windows machine. And for FM I even needed a medium sized instance, as the memory of the micro editions is way to low to allow serius test to run on it.
I know that Medium Windows machines are more expensive, but I currently donate the 60$-100$/Month to the Flexmojos Project. After all ... they only cost, if I let the tests run and that's currently not very often.
Chris
________________________________________
Von: Harbs [gavharbs@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 00:48
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Windows instances are more expensive, but yes, there's that option.
On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
> Just seen there are windows instances.
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Hi Om,
>
> I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup the
> Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies, how
> will you do ?
>
> -Fred
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free per
> month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started downloading
> the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
>
> 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
> 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
> 3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
>
> If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a daily
> run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day. I
> hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23 hours.
>
>
> If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup with
> their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to pay
> for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
>
> There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you all
> updated how this little experiment goes.
>
> Regards,
> Om
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Harbs <ga...@gmail.com>.
Windows instances are more expensive, but yes, there's that option.
On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
> Just seen there are windows instances.
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Hi Om,
>
> I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup the
> Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies, how
> will you do ?
>
> -Fred
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free per
> month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started downloading
> the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
>
> 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
> 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
> 3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
>
> If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a daily
> run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day. I
> hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23 hours.
>
>
> If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup with
> their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to pay
> for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
>
> There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you all
> updated how this little experiment goes.
>
> Regards,
> Om
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
> 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day. I
hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23 hours
Considering most of the time we can test our changes only, it should fit.
-Fred
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Yes, I did get a Windows micro instance. I am installing all the
requirements one by one. So far so good.
Once I install everything required, I will try to make the machine's image
available publicly (if that is possible). Then you and others can just
re-image it without having to install everything again.
Om
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> Just seen there are windows instances.
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: Frédéric THOMAS
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
>
> Hi Om,
>
> I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup the
> Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies, how
> will you do ?
>
> -Fred
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free per
> month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started downloading
> the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
>
> 1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
> 2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
> 3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
>
> If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a daily
> run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day. I
> hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23 hours.
>
>
> If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup with
> their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to pay
> for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
>
> There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you all
> updated how this little experiment goes.
>
> Regards,
> Om
>
>
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
Just seen there are windows instances.
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Frédéric THOMAS
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:30 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Hi Om,
I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup the
Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies, how
will you do ?
-Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: OmPrakash Muppirala
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free per
month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started downloading
the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a daily
run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day. I
hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23 hours.
If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup with
their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to pay
for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you all
updated how this little experiment goes.
Regards,
Om
Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
Hi Om,
I've seen it as well but didn't know what to do regarding how to setup the
Pixel Bender Toolkit and the Adobe Extension Manager CS5 dependancies, how
will you do ?
-Fred
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From: OmPrakash Muppirala
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:16 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Mustella on Amazon EC2
Amazon EC2 has a 12 month free service which gives us 750 hours free per
month. I have made an account on Amazon EC2 and have started downloading
the Flex SDK on the virtual machine. My plans are as follows:
1. Get a full build of Flex SDK working on the develop branch
2. Get checkin_tests run successfully
3. Get the full Mustella test to run successfully
If these go well, I will install Jenkins on that machine and start a daily
run of Mustella. 750 hours per month accounts to around 23 hours a day. I
hope a single run of Mustella on that machine takes not more than 23 hours.
If it works well, those who are interested can replicate this setup with
their personal Amazon accounts. After the first 12 months, I plan to pay
for this myself(750 hours a month costs less than $10 a month)
There are multiple ways this idea can fail, though. I will keep you all
updated how this little experiment goes.
Regards,
Om