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[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-2725) Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage

Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage 
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                 Key: GERONIMO-2725
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2725
             Project: Geronimo
          Issue Type: Improvement
      Security Level: public (Regular issues)
    Affects Versions: 2.0-M1
            Reporter: Jason Dillon
         Assigned To: Jason Dillon
             Fix For: 2.0-M2


Do not need the geronimo-qname_1.1_spec anymore since it is included in the standard edition 5, which is now required to run Geronimo.

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Re: [jira] Created: (GERONIMO-2725) Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
I think that if users need to retrotranslate/weave they can add that  
jar, but since the default users will be required to use java 5, then  
the default assembly should not include bits it does not need.

The edge cases may need to make a few changes to the assembly to get  
it to work, but it should still be possible.

--jason


On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

> I think that we still need this.  I didn't mind the move to JDK15  
> because users could always use retroweaver for earlier JDKs.  We  
> still need this version of the spec for just such an occasion.
>
> In any case, the retirement of the a previously supported spec  
> needs a little more time on the dev list than a three hour window.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Jason Dillon (JIRA) wrote:
>
>> Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>>                  Key: GERONIMO-2725
>>                  URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ 
>> GERONIMO-2725
>>              Project: Geronimo
>>           Issue Type: Improvement
>>       Security Level: public (Regular issues)
>>     Affects Versions: 2.0-M1
>>             Reporter: Jason Dillon
>>          Assigned To: Jason Dillon
>>              Fix For: 2.0-M2
>>
>>
>> Do not need the geronimo-qname_1.1_spec anymore since it is  
>> included in the standard edition 5, which is now required to run  
>> Geronimo.
>>
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Re: [jira] Created: (GERONIMO-2725) Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage

Posted by anita kulshreshtha <a_...@yahoo.com>.
    Java 5 SE runtime is a prerequisite for servlet 2.5 containers and
hence for jee 5 and G 2.0. The users can not expect to run jee 5 on
java 1.4. Please see an earlier discussion - 
http://www.nabble.com/Make-trunk-1.5-only%21-p7561513.html

Thanks
Anita

--- Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com> wrote:

> On Jan 12, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
> > On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> >
> >> I think that we still need this.  I didn't mind the move to JDK15 
> 
> >> because users could always use retroweaver for earlier JDKs.  We  
> >> still need this version of the spec for just such an occasion.
> >
> > Interesting. I certainly hadn't been thinking along these lines.  
> > When I last looked at Retroweaver it would provide most Java 5  
> > language features, but not Java 5 SE runtime features. So, taken to
>  
> > a logical conclusion, we'd be saying that G 2.0 cannot be dependent
>  
> > upon any Java 5 SE unique runtime features (e.g. xml extensions,  
> > jmx, concurrency, ...). I'm pretty to commit to any backward  
> > compatibility for our J2EE assembly...
> 
> I think we should be able to rely on the Java 5 SE features... since 
> 
> most users will be running in that environment, that is the
> supported/ 
> required JVM level for 2.0.
> 
> Users can *probably* get Java 1.4 to work, but its not gonna be  
> working out of the box.
> 
> --jason
> 
> 
> 
> 



 
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Re: [jira] Created: (GERONIMO-2725) Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
On Jan 12, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>> I think that we still need this.  I didn't mind the move to JDK15  
>> because users could always use retroweaver for earlier JDKs.  We  
>> still need this version of the spec for just such an occasion.
>
> Interesting. I certainly hadn't been thinking along these lines.  
> When I last looked at Retroweaver it would provide most Java 5  
> language features, but not Java 5 SE runtime features. So, taken to  
> a logical conclusion, we'd be saying that G 2.0 cannot be dependent  
> upon any Java 5 SE unique runtime features (e.g. xml extensions,  
> jmx, concurrency, ...). I'm pretty to commit to any backward  
> compatibility for our J2EE assembly...

I think we should be able to rely on the Java 5 SE features... since  
most users will be running in that environment, that is the supported/ 
required JVM level for 2.0.

Users can *probably* get Java 1.4 to work, but its not gonna be  
working out of the box.

--jason




Re: [jira] Created: (GERONIMO-2725) Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

> I think that we still need this.  I didn't mind the move to JDK15  
> because users could always use retroweaver for earlier JDKs.  We  
> still need this version of the spec for just such an occasion.

Interesting. I certainly hadn't been thinking along these lines. When  
I last looked at Retroweaver it would provide most Java 5 language  
features, but not Java 5 SE runtime features. So, taken to a logical  
conclusion, we'd be saying that G 2.0 cannot be dependent upon any  
Java 5 SE unique runtime features (e.g. xml extensions, jmx,  
concurrency, ...). I'm pretty to commit to any backward compatibility  
for our J2EE assembly...

>
> In any case, the retirement of the a previously supported spec  
> needs a little more time on the dev list than a three hour window.

The spec hasn't been retired, it's no longer included in our modules/ 
assembly. I think that's inline with a CTR process...

--kevan

Re: [jira] Created: (GERONIMO-2725) Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage

Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
I think that we still need this.  I didn't mind the move to JDK15  
because users could always use retroweaver for earlier JDKs.  We  
still need this version of the spec for just such an occasion.

In any case, the retirement of the a previously supported spec needs  
a little more time on the dev list than a three hour window.


Regards,
Alan

On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Jason Dillon (JIRA) wrote:

> Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage
> -------------------------------------
>
>                  Key: GERONIMO-2725
>                  URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ 
> GERONIMO-2725
>              Project: Geronimo
>           Issue Type: Improvement
>       Security Level: public (Regular issues)
>     Affects Versions: 2.0-M1
>             Reporter: Jason Dillon
>          Assigned To: Jason Dillon
>              Fix For: 2.0-M2
>
>
> Do not need the geronimo-qname_1.1_spec anymore since it is  
> included in the standard edition 5, which is now required to run  
> Geronimo.
>
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[jira] Closed: (GERONIMO-2725) Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage

Posted by "Jason Dillon (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2725?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Jason Dillon closed GERONIMO-2725.
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    Resolution: Fixed

> Remove geronimo-qname_1.1_spec usage 
> -------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: GERONIMO-2725
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2725
>             Project: Geronimo
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>    Affects Versions: 2.0-M1
>            Reporter: Jason Dillon
>         Assigned To: Jason Dillon
>             Fix For: 2.0-M2
>
>
> Do not need the geronimo-qname_1.1_spec anymore since it is included in the standard edition 5, which is now required to run Geronimo.

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