Too late to change the name?

[Sean Kelly <se...@mac.com>]

Hey guys:

Getting OODT out of the shackles of Caltech intellectual property and into open source is undoubtedly one of the best things we could ever do for the software package. And the fact that we've got such a clear-headed champion to herald it into the Apache Incubator is a real honor.

However, "OODT" is, itself, a horrible, horrid, ghastly name.

Would this juncture a good time to explore a more snazzy name for the project? Or is it perhaps better to stick with the name given its recognition?

Curiously,
Sean.

Re: Too late to change the name?

[Sean Kelly <se...@mac.com>]

Awesome. Thanks for the discussion and advice.

Take care,
Sean.

Re: Too late to change the name?

["Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>]

> So, you have a while to think about new names and ponder what the
> community thinks it should be.  As a practical suggestion, I think I
> would wait to discuss a new name until you have more diverse
> committers so that the new folks can feel a sense of ownership in the
> name.  -- justin

Thanks for the advice, Justin, will do.

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: Too late to change the name?

[Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>]

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Sean Kelly <se...@mac.com> wrote:
> Hey guys:
>
> Getting OODT out of the shackles of Caltech intellectual property and into open source is undoubtedly one of the best things we could ever do for the software package. And the fact that we've got such a clear-headed champion to herald it into the Apache Incubator is a real honor.
>
> However, "OODT" is, itself, a horrible, horrid, ghastly name.
>
> Would this juncture a good time to explore a more snazzy name for the project? Or is it perhaps better to stick with the name given its recognition?

If you are interested in choosing a new name, the way I'd recommend
going about it is to continue as OODT while in Incubation, but when
graduation rolls around, unveil the new name.  As I've discussed with
Chris, upon graduation is when the forces of the PR machines can be
unleashed.  (The graduation is the formal process where both the
Incubator PMC and the Board "certify" that the project is ready to not
need the Incubator any more and is ready to govern itself.)

So, you have a while to think about new names and ponder what the
community thinks it should be.  As a practical suggestion, I think I
would wait to discuss a new name until you have more diverse
committers so that the new folks can feel a sense of ownership in the
name.  -- justin

Re: Too late to change the name?

["Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>]

Hey Sean,

Although I agree OODT is a bit dated, I think it carries within it a recognition that we ought to tie to. Funny enough before approaching Apache, Dan and I were thinking of whether or not we should rename OODT. After spending a week or two trying to think of a new name, we couldn't come up with anything really snazzier/more acronym-a-ble than what we already had.

Anyhoo, I'm open to what others think, but all things considering (we just got Apache groups set up, JIRA, Wiki, etc.), and there is a record of a vote under the OODT name, etc., it might be easier/better to just stick with OODT as the TLP name, and then become even more creative with each sub-project as we bring OODT into the 21st century :)

Cheers,
Chris



On 2/9/10 6:11 AM, "Sean Kelly" <se...@mac.com> wrote:

Hey guys:

Getting OODT out of the shackles of Caltech intellectual property and into open source is undoubtedly one of the best things we could ever do for the software package. And the fact that we've got such a clear-headed champion to herald it into the Apache Incubator is a real honor.

However, "OODT" is, itself, a horrible, horrid, ghastly name.

Would this juncture a good time to explore a more snazzy name for the project? Or is it perhaps better to stick with the name given its recognition?

Curiously,
Sean.




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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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