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Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Hi all,

I recently made a test build of AOO 4.1.5 for Windows in Ukrainian language:
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-L10n/AOO-415-Ukrainian/

Feel free to download the full installation or the language pack and
test it!

Please note:

This is an initial test version, not including recent translations made
on Pootle.
We can use it to check the current state of translation and whether we
can build it with the current tools.
It is expected to still contain untranslated strings, but you can check
if the part that is translated makes sense.

Regards,

   Matthias



RE: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Posted by mcmike <mc...@ukr.net>.
Sorry for the cut off image, here it is, uploaded to imgur: https://i.imgur.com/gCKsO1j.png
Unfortunately I don’t have any screenshots of similar images, but I have found at least a few of these

From: Matthias Seidel
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:25 PM
To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Am 22.04.2018 um 16:13 schrieb mcmike:

Thank you for the answer, I have checked the NSIS installer, the error is in its translation and I have contacted their admin.

As soon as we have fixed "our" bug we will not use most of those strings anyway...
But if there is a spelling error it should be fixed in NSIS, of course! ;-)


But there is still one question to be answered: is there a way to find out the context for a string? 
Because, for example, I stumbled across this odd string:
 


Sorry, attachments are cut of in this mailing list. Can you provide the screenshot another way?


 
And I am very curious to find out what should I do with such strings. 

Me too! ;-)


 
From: Matthias Seidel
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:53 PM
To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
 
Hi,
 
We have two "phases" of the installation process.
 
First the downloaded binary will be extracted by NSIS [1], then the MSI
installer takes over...
 
Normally we also patch the strings in NSIS, but that isn't working at
the moment [2].
So it could be that the wrong translation is located in the NSIS sources...
 
Regards,
 
   Matthias
 
[1] http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
[2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127628
 
 
Am 22.04.2018 um 13:39 schrieb mcmike:
> Hello there, I have noticed some errors even in the installer program, so I have some questions.
> Is there a way to not only see the English original string but also the context of that string?
> Is there a way to search the translated phrase to fix it? Because I was unable to search that wrong translation in Pootle. (Maybe it was fixed already)
> 
> From: Matthias Seidel
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:54 PM
> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently made a test build of AOO 4.1.5 for Windows in Ukrainian language:
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-L10n/AOO-415-Ukrainian/
> 
> Feel free to download the full installation or the language pack and
> test it!
> 
> Please note:
> 
> This is an initial test version, not including recent translations made
> on Pootle.
> We can use it to check the current state of translation and whether we
> can build it with the current tools.
> It is expected to still contain untranslated strings, but you can check
> if the part that is translated makes sense.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 
 




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Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Am 22.04.2018 um 17:23 schrieb mcmike:
> Sorry for the cut off image, here it is, uploaded to imgur: https://i.imgur.com/gCKsO1j.png
> Unfortunately I don’t have any screenshots of similar images, but I have found at least a few of these

Ah, that one is in here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_languages/Control.ulf

You see "Control.ulf#OOO_CONTROL_206.LngText.txt" in Pootle? So this is
string "OOO_CONTROL_206" in file "Control.ulf"

I would keep the translation as it is, did you see it during
installation? I have never seen it in "real life". ;-)

Regards,
   Matthias

> From: Matthias Seidel
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:25 PM
> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
>
> Am 22.04.2018 um 16:13 schrieb mcmike:
>
> Thank you for the answer, I have checked the NSIS installer, the error is in its translation and I have contacted their admin.
>
> As soon as we have fixed "our" bug we will not use most of those strings anyway...
> But if there is a spelling error it should be fixed in NSIS, of course! ;-)
>
>
> But there is still one question to be answered: is there a way to find out the context for a string? 
> Because, for example, I stumbled across this odd string:
>  
>
>
> Sorry, attachments are cut of in this mailing list. Can you provide the screenshot another way?
>
>
>  
> And I am very curious to find out what should I do with such strings. 
>
> Me too! ;-)
>
>
>  
> From: Matthias Seidel
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:53 PM
> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
>  
> Hi,
>  
> We have two "phases" of the installation process.
>  
> First the downloaded binary will be extracted by NSIS [1], then the MSI
> installer takes over...
>  
> Normally we also patch the strings in NSIS, but that isn't working at
> the moment [2].
> So it could be that the wrong translation is located in the NSIS sources...
>  
> Regards,
>  
>    Matthias
>  
> [1] http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
> [2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127628
>  
>  
> Am 22.04.2018 um 13:39 schrieb mcmike:
>> Hello there, I have noticed some errors even in the installer program, so I have some questions.
>> Is there a way to not only see the English original string but also the context of that string?
>> Is there a way to search the translated phrase to fix it? Because I was unable to search that wrong translation in Pootle. (Maybe it was fixed already)
>>  
>> From: Matthias Seidel
>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:54 PM
>> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I recently made a test build of AOO 4.1.5 for Windows in Ukrainian language:
>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-L10n/AOO-415-Ukrainian/
>>  
>> Feel free to download the full installation or the language pack and
>> test it!
>>  
>> Please note:
>>  
>> This is an initial test version, not including recent translations made
>> on Pootle.
>> We can use it to check the current state of translation and whether we
>> can build it with the current tools.
>> It is expected to still contain untranslated strings, but you can check
>> if the part that is translated makes sense.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>>    Matthias
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
>
>
>
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Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Am 22.04.2018 um 16:13 schrieb mcmike:
>
> Thank you for the answer, I have checked the NSIS installer, the error
> is in its translation and I have contacted their admin.
>

As soon as we have fixed "our" bug we will not use most of those strings
anyway...
But if there is a spelling error it should be fixed in NSIS, of course! ;-)

> But there is still one question to be answered: is there a way to find
> out the context for a string?
>
> Because, for example, I stumbled across this odd string:
>
>  
>

Sorry, attachments are cut of in this mailing list. Can you provide the
screenshot another way?

>  
>
> And I am very curious to find out what should I do with such strings.
>

Me too! ;-)

>  
>
> *From: *Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:53 PM
> *To: *l10n@openoffice.apache.org <ma...@openoffice.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> We have two "phases" of the installation process.
>
>  
>
> First the downloaded binary will be extracted by NSIS [1], then the MSI
>
> installer takes over...
>
>  
>
> Normally we also patch the strings in NSIS, but that isn't working at
>
> the moment [2].
>
> So it could be that the wrong translation is located in the NSIS
> sources...
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
>    Matthias
>
>  
>
> [1] http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
>
> [2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127628
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Am 22.04.2018 um 13:39 schrieb mcmike:
>
> > Hello there, I have noticed some errors even in the installer
> program, so I have some questions.
>
> > Is there a way to not only see the English original string but also
> the context of that string?
>
> > Is there a way to search the translated phrase to fix it? Because I
> was unable to search that wrong translation in Pootle. (Maybe it was
> fixed already)
>
> > 
>
> > From: Matthias Seidel
>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:54 PM
>
> > To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
>
> > Subject: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
>
> > 
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > 
>
> > I recently made a test build of AOO 4.1.5 for Windows in Ukrainian
> language:
>
> >
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-L10n/AOO-415-Ukrainian/
>
> > 
>
> > Feel free to download the full installation or the language pack and
>
> > test it!
>
> > 
>
> > Please note:
>
> > 
>
> > This is an initial test version, not including recent translations made
>
> > on Pootle.
>
> > We can use it to check the current state of translation and whether we
>
> > can build it with the current tools.
>
> > It is expected to still contain untranslated strings, but you can check
>
> > if the part that is translated makes sense.
>
> > 
>
> > Regards,
>
> > 
>
> >    Matthias
>
> > 
>
> > 
>
> > 
>
> > 
>
> > 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
>
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RE: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Posted by mcmike <mc...@ukr.net>.
Thank you for the answer, I have checked the NSIS installer, the error is in its translation and I have contacted their admin.
But there is still one question to be answered: is there a way to find out the context for a string? 
Because, for example, I stumbled across this odd string:



And I am very curious to find out what should I do with such strings. 

From: Matthias Seidel
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:53 PM
To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Hi,

We have two "phases" of the installation process.

First the downloaded binary will be extracted by NSIS [1], then the MSI
installer takes over...

Normally we also patch the strings in NSIS, but that isn't working at
the moment [2].
So it could be that the wrong translation is located in the NSIS sources...

Regards,

   Matthias

[1] http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
[2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127628


Am 22.04.2018 um 13:39 schrieb mcmike:
> Hello there, I have noticed some errors even in the installer program, so I have some questions.
> Is there a way to not only see the English original string but also the context of that string?
> Is there a way to search the translated phrase to fix it? Because I was unable to search that wrong translation in Pootle. (Maybe it was fixed already)
>
> From: Matthias Seidel
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:54 PM
> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
>
> Hi all,
>
> I recently made a test build of AOO 4.1.5 for Windows in Ukrainian language:
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-L10n/AOO-415-Ukrainian/
>
> Feel free to download the full installation or the language pack and
> test it!
>
> Please note:
>
> This is an initial test version, not including recent translations made
> on Pootle.
> We can use it to check the current state of translation and whether we
> can build it with the current tools.
> It is expected to still contain untranslated strings, but you can check
> if the part that is translated makes sense.
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi,

We have two "phases" of the installation process.

First the downloaded binary will be extracted by NSIS [1], then the MSI
installer takes over...

Normally we also patch the strings in NSIS, but that isn't working at
the moment [2].
So it could be that the wrong translation is located in the NSIS sources...

Regards,

   Matthias

[1] http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
[2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127628


Am 22.04.2018 um 13:39 schrieb mcmike:
> Hello there, I have noticed some errors even in the installer program, so I have some questions.
> Is there a way to not only see the English original string but also the context of that string?
> Is there a way to search the translated phrase to fix it? Because I was unable to search that wrong translation in Pootle. (Maybe it was fixed already)
>
> From: Matthias Seidel
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:54 PM
> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows
>
> Hi all,
>
> I recently made a test build of AOO 4.1.5 for Windows in Ukrainian language:
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-L10n/AOO-415-Ukrainian/
>
> Feel free to download the full installation or the language pack and
> test it!
>
> Please note:
>
> This is an initial test version, not including recent translations made
> on Pootle.
> We can use it to check the current state of translation and whether we
> can build it with the current tools.
> It is expected to still contain untranslated strings, but you can check
> if the part that is translated makes sense.
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>
>
>
>



RE: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Posted by mcmike <mc...@ukr.net>.
Hello there, I have noticed some errors even in the installer program, so I have some questions.
Is there a way to not only see the English original string but also the context of that string?
Is there a way to search the translated phrase to fix it? Because I was unable to search that wrong translation in Pootle. (Maybe it was fixed already)

From: Matthias Seidel
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 1:54 PM
To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Ukrainian test build AOO 4.1.5 for Windows

Hi all,

I recently made a test build of AOO 4.1.5 for Windows in Ukrainian language:
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-415-L10n/AOO-415-Ukrainian/

Feel free to download the full installation or the language pack and
test it!

Please note:

This is an initial test version, not including recent translations made
on Pootle.
We can use it to check the current state of translation and whether we
can build it with the current tools.
It is expected to still contain untranslated strings, but you can check
if the part that is translated makes sense.

Regards,

   Matthias